subject:"Re\: Cocoa WebObjects Integration"

Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Daniel Beatty

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject.  What it comes down to is this.
Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine D2W and
ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM.  The idea is that if the calls are
all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call those methods
in the ORM.   

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan


On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

 ¡Gracias Daniel!
 
 I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.
 
 Hopping all you are doing fine,
 your fan,
 Dino
 
 
 On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:
 
 Dino,
 
 I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and the
 podcast from Mike Schrag
 (http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).
 
  
 Saludos,
 
 Daniel.
  
  
 El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com escribió:
 
 
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 Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration
 
 
 Hola Mike,
 
 could you please pontime there directly witha link?
 I would like to read about it...
 
 regards all ;^)
 
 Dino
 
 
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 imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
 services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
 experience with that (couple years ago).
 
 ms
 
 On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
 application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is
 a way to integrate both technologies?
 
 Saludos,
 
 Daniel.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Farrukh Ijaz

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the handlers to
make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months ago in which I
used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something done
using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is this.
Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine D2W and
ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is that if the calls are
all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call those methods
in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and the
podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:50:51 -0400
From: Mike Schrag msch...@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration
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imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap services
as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last experience
with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is a
way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Ken Anderson

The project I'm working on right now communicates between WO and iOS via binary
plists and direct actions. It works really well. I hope to put an example
together within the next month+.

Ken

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the handlers
to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months ago in
which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is this.
Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine D2W
and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is that if the calls
are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call those
methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is a
way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Chuck Hill

Where did you get the binary plist implementation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

The project I'm working on right now communicates between WO and iOS via
binary plists and direct actions. It works really well. I hope to put an
example together within the next month+.

Ken

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the handlers
to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months ago in
which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is
this. Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine
D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is that if the
calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call
those methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is
a way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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China Lake, CA 93555
daniel.bea...@navy.mil
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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Mike Schrag

you don't read anything i write, do you?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

Where did you get the binary plist implementation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

The project I'm working on right now communicates between WO and iOS via
binary plists and direct actions. It works really well. I hope to put an
example together within the next month+.

Ken

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the
handlers to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months
ago in which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is
this. Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to
combine D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is
that if the calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program
can call those methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com
escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is
a way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Code 474300D
2401 E. Pilot Plant Rd. M/S 1109
China Lake, CA 93555
daniel.bea...@navy.mil
(760)939-7097

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Ken Anderson

Originally, a converter written in perl. But now, the java version in the
latest wonder branch. Thank you Mike!!

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:

Where did you get the binary plist implementation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

The project I'm working on right now communicates between WO and iOS via
binary plists and direct actions. It works really well. I hope to put an
example together within the next month+.

Ken

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the
handlers to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months
ago in which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is
this. Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to
combine D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is
that if the calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program
can call those methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com
escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is
a way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

This email sent to daniel.bea...@navy.mil

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Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch
Code 474300D
2401 E. Pilot Plant Rd. M/S 1109
China Lake, CA 93555
daniel.bea...@navy.mil
(760)939-7097

This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com

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Practical WebObjects

Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Chuck Hill

I do, but it sounded like he had been working on this longer that yours had
been out. So I was curious.

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

you don't read anything i write, do you?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

Where did you get the binary plist implementation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

The project I'm working on right now communicates between WO and iOS via
binary plists and direct actions. It works really well. I hope to put an
example together within the next month+.

Ken

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the
handlers to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of
months ago in which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is
this. Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to
combine D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is
that if the calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX
program can call those methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com
escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there
is a way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

This email sent to daniel.bea...@navy.mil

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Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch
Code 474300D
2401 E. Pilot Plant Rd. M/S 1109
China Lake, CA 93555
daniel.bea...@navy.mil
(760)939-7097

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread David Holt

Hi Farrukh,

On 2010-09-22, at 2:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the handlers
to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months ago in
which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Was it difficult to implement? It sounds very interesting.

Combined with the plist stuff, it becomes even more so.

David

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is this.
Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine D2W
and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is that if the calls
are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call those
methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is a
way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Chuck Hill

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

Originally, a converter written in perl.

perl is Visual Pig Latin. Spit!

But now, the java version in the latest wonder branch. Thank you Mike!!

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:

Where did you get the binary plist implementation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

The project I'm working on right now communicates between WO and iOS via
binary plists and direct actions. It works really well. I hope to put an
example together within the next month+.

Ken

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the
handlers to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of
months ago in which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is
this. Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to
combine D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is
that if the calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX
program can call those methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there
is a way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Farrukh Ijaz

Hi Dan,

No it was not difficult at all. You just need to understand how you can use
D2WContext class and inferring rules in your code. It's fun to play in this
domain.

I never used plists so I can't really comment. However I like XML because it's
easy to read and I think it is better choice to exchange info than JSON or
PLIST as XML parsers are available in every platform.

I will never vote for SOAP. I consider it to be overly engineered integration
choice.

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-23, at 12:36 AM, David Holt programming...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Farrukh,

On 2010-09-22, at 2:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:

Hi Dan,

You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the handlers
to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months ago in
which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.

Was it difficult to implement? It sounds very interesting.

Combined with the plist stuff, it becomes even more so.

David

Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
done using GWT.

Regards,

Farrukh

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

Greetings Dino and Daniel,
I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
making my dissertation on this very subject. What it comes down to is
this. Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine
D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM. The idea is that if the
calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call
those methods in the ORM.

So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.

Later,
Dan

On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz di...@mac.com wrote:

¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino

On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
the podcast from Mike Schrag
(http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov).

Saludos,

Daniel.

El 18/09/2010, a las 22:39, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com escribió:

De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino

On 15 Sep 2010, at 4:18 PM, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote:

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:

Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have a WO
application but the customer wants to convert from html to cocoa, there is
a way to integrate both technologies?

Saludos,

Daniel.

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Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-22 Thread Daniel Beatty

Greetings Farrukh,
Well, I do like the way D2WContext works, and have done similar things in
the past (published at WWDC 2008, Mexican Science Academy 2009, and IEEE
Mobile Data Management 2010).  In those cases, it was academic and a form of
JSON-RPC turned out to the best solution.

My next papers probably will explore D2W a little more closely as combine
previous work and D2WContext should be doable.  Both ERRest and D2WContext
obviously provide a framework for generalizing access to plist oriented
structures.  This does not exclude or diminish to quality or validity of the
Mashup ORM proposed.  On the contrary, it is simply a contribution to the
point.  As it is generally accessible and usable by all mobile devices
including iOS, it has a little more appeal to the academic world.

Dan


On 9/22/10 3:06 PM, Farrukh Ijaz farrukh.i...@fuegodigitalmedia.com
wrote:

 Hi Dan,
 
 No it was not difficult at all. You just need to understand how you can use
 D2WContext class and inferring rules in your code. It's fun to play in this
 domain.
 
 I never used plists so I can't really comment. However I like XML because it's
 easy to read and I think it is better choice to exchange info than JSON or
 PLIST as XML parsers are available in every platform.
 
 I will never vote for SOAP. I consider it to be overly engineered integration
 choice. 
 
 Farrukh
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2010-09-23, at 12:36 AM, David Holt programming...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Farrukh,
 
 On 2010-09-22, at 2:09 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:
 
 Hi Dan,
 
 You can simply use ERRest framework with slight modification to the handlers
 to make it D2W compliant. I did a small project a couple of months ago in
 which I used D2W with custom tasks Get, Put, Post and Delete.
 
  Was it difficult to implement? It sounds very interesting.
 
 Combined with the plist stuff, it becomes even more so.
 
 David
 
 
 
 Also, I guess if you do an iPad application to communicate with your WO
 application using ERRest and iOS XML API sounds impressive than something
 done using GWT.
 
 Regards,
 
 Farrukh
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2010-09-22, at 11:44 PM, Daniel Beatty daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 mailto:daniel.bea...@navy.mil  wrote:
 
 Greetings Dino and Daniel,
 I am just making a few observations that I have learned in the process of
 making my dissertation on this very subject.  What it comes down to is
 this.  Now that Cocoa includes WebKit with HTML5, my approach is to combine
 D2W and ERRest with say GWT to make a mashup ORM.  The idea is that if the
 calls are all known, then any WebKit Cocoa app or AJAX program can call
 those methods in the ORM.
 
 So my tidbits are, and that would be my major beer money project.
 
 Later,
 Dan
 
 
 On 9/19/10 10:24 AM, Dino Strausz  x-msg://27/di...@mac.com
 di...@mac.com mailto:di...@mac.com  wrote:
 
 ¡Gracias Daniel!
 
 I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.
 
 Hopping all you are doing fine,
 your fan,
 Dino
 
 
 On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:
 
 Dino,
 
 I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity site and
 the podcast from Mike Schrag (
 http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mo
 v 
 http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov
 http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mo
 v ).
 
  
 Saludos,
 
 Daniel.
  
  
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 Hola Mike,
 
 could you please pontime there directly witha link?
 I would like to read about it...
 
 regards all ;^)
 
 Dino
 
 
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imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do soap
services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages from my last
experience with that (couple years ago).

ms

On Sep 15

Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration

2010-09-19 Thread Dino Strausz


¡Gracias Daniel!

I realy appreciate it... I'll take a look.

Hopping all you are doing fine,
your fan,
Dino


On 19 Sep 2010, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mejía wrote:


Dino,

I found a WOWODC podcast from Andrew Lindesay in the wocommunity  
site and the podcast from Mike Schrag (http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/screencasts/ERRest-2010-02-16.mov 
).


Saludos,

Daniel.

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escribió:




De: Dino Strausz di...@mac.com
Fecha: 18 de septiembre de 2010 19:21:13 CDT
Para: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Asunto: Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration


Hola Mike,

could you please pontime there directly witha link?
I would like to read about it...

regards all ;^)

Dino


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wrote:



Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:50:51 -0400
From: Mike Schrag msch...@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Cocoa WebObjects Integration
To: Daniel Mej?a mej...@evol-tech.com
Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Message-ID: 686b1803-e87e-44f9-bd8f-d7ee6e42d...@pobox.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

imo, errest with json or plist going back and forth. you can do  
soap services as well. i wrote a bunch of stuff on the wiki pages  
from my last experience with that (couple years ago).


ms

On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Mejía wrote:


Hi all,

What is the best way to integrate WebObjects with cocoa?. I have  
a WO application but the customer wants to convert from html to  
cocoa, there is a way to integrate both technologies?


Saludos,

Daniel.




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