Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-24 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I'd personally like to mark the break from the past, and choose a very
>  different name. Qute* comes across to me as not very qute, and quite
>  possibly contentious with Trolltech trademarks.
>

Don't worry, Trolltech didn't get the trademark on anything that
sounds like Cute. They don't even have Qute, where did you get that?
The only thing they have as a trademark is Qt.

>  I find it a little disheartening that what was initially announced as a
>  competition to choose a new name has now been announced as a unilateral
>  decision... at the very least, I would have liked to see a shortlist of
>  4 or 5 candidates registered and thrown out to the community for
>  voting/comments.

As Vadim explained, this is technically not possible. I don't know if
you've ever tried to buy a domain name, but people just try to
speculate and buy everything in the dictionary or not. Doing a public
contest would be impossible cause some people would simply buy the
winner and try to sell it to the community later.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New Project Name

2008-02-23 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM, EdPimentl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not shorten the name to "GoPhone"... "gPhone"  "wPhone"
> And leverage the brand that WengoPhone built.

I think it's too late, the domains are registered already.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Looking for new name

2008-02-06 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Feb 6, 2008 9:16 PM, Nicolas Lécureuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le Wednesday 06 February 2008 19:44:10 giopas, vous avez écrit :
> > > So Phone + Phoenix = Phonix
> > > Phoenix was as bird that CAME up from the ashes and OpenWengo is
> > > certainly now in fligt.
> >
> > You're right edpimentl, it's very nice... I transfer your message to the
> > list
> >
> > giopas
>
> nice ideas i like too.

It does sound a bit like phoney (fraud) though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Looking for new name

2008-02-05 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Feb 6, 2008 7:53 AM, giopas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyway, it's true that in English it could sound a bit strange:
> "conditionally released from jail; pledge or promise made by a prisoner
> that he will obey the terms of his release". What English native
> speakers think about it?
>
>

sounds like gangsta rap to me, funny though :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Roadmap (kind of)

2008-02-05 Thread Patrick Aljord
Don't know if this is the place or if this feature has already been
discussed but here it goes.

I think one of the barrier to using SIP phones is the configuration
part about giving your sip proxy server,  user name, auth name etc. So
it would be great to have template that user could contribute to OW
for the service they are using.

As an example, I use freephonie.org and I know how to configure
openwengo to make use of it, so I could send my "freephonie config
template" so that it is included in openwengo and when another user
wants to use it, he can just select "freephonie" in a "sip providers
select box" and enter his/her username and pasword and then openwengo
would look at the freephonie template and use the right proxy, auth
name etc automatically.

This would greatly enhance user experience in my opinion.

OTH,

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Looking for new name

2008-02-05 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Feb 6, 2008 12:55 AM, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was thinking about Parole (meaning talk in french)...
>

But in English it means "liberté conditionnelle", pretty bad for a
free as in freedom softphone :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parole
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Openwengo REPO conversion

2008-01-24 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hi Vadim,

Last time I imported wengo svn I did:

git-svn clone http:///svn/trunk/ openwengo

I recommend doing so locally from the svn server if you can, it should
save you time and bandwidth. Then just push it to a public repo.

HTH

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Why is it so calm

2008-01-08 Thread Patrick Aljord
About pidgin, devs are not interested to work on voip/video but they
are not opposed to the idea if somebody does the work, in other words,
nothing is planed yet.
Telepathy plugins for pidgin has stalled since the google summer of
code project, Haze, "a libpurple-based Telepathy connection manager to
provide Telepathy clients with access to the full range of protocols
supported by libpurple" has been developed though.

Tanguy, tu prêches un converti :-) I love Qt too and indeed 4.4 rocks.
About Kopete, I read in their IRC channel that Decibel sponsored by
basysKom (they only have one guy working on it) has been kind of
abandoned for the past month, this is sad news as it was supposed to
bring telepathy goodness to Kopete and more to KDE.

Here it is the whole gossip:
 Bille: do you know of basyskom quit funding it then? it's
supposed to be their baby
 * mattr notes that this is why he objected to decibel in the first
place, since it was just something basyskom decided to do and then
force upon the community
 and i doubt it meets any of our needs
 but anyways, enough about that, since i haven't actually
bothered to look at it
 mattr: they always had limited term funding for it.
 Bille: do you know of basyskom quit funding it then? it's
supposed to be their baby
* mattr notes that this is why he objected to decibel in the first
place, since it was just something basyskom decided to do and then
force upon the community
 and i doubt it meets any of our needs
 but anyways, enough about that, since i haven't actually
bothered to look at it
 mattr: they always had limited term funding for it.
 ahh
 tobias is motivated to continue privately, but not if nobody
is using it.
 telepathy itself has also slowed down.
 ahh
 tobias is motivated to continue privately, but not if nobody
is using it.
 telepathy itself has also slowed down.

Kopete audio/video code is moving to solid and phonon which is pretty
cool: http://dot.kde.org/1194408884/1194425608/

About Empathy, they told me they are working on a  messenger (empathy)
that uses telepathy and mission controller from nokia and they already
have patches for audio/video.
Good thing is that they are working on libempathy written in C which
could be used by any clients, they have a libempathy-gtk and well, a
libempathy-qt could be written I guess. 'Only' the gui would need to
be written. Telepathy and Dbus compiles (more or less) on all
platforms and sofia-sip compiles on all platforms ok.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Why is it so calm

2008-01-07 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Jan 7, 2008 1:08 PM, Klaus Darilion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> michel memeteau schrieb:
> > Hi all !
> >
> > Wengo has to carry on as it was about to become one of the standards Sip
> > softphone on major OSes.
> >
> > 2008/1/6, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2008 7:16 PM, Patrick Aljord < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >  > Well, people using Windows and MacOS X don't care about using a 100%
> >  > FOSS VoIP solution
> >
> > Maybe people under Linux care about communicate with their friends
> > under Windows or MacOS X
> > And this can be achieved easily if the same software can be used on
> > different OS don't you think?
> >
> >
> > the main problem with SIP today is that we don't have a click n Run
> > friendly & standard solution on Windows & Mac OSX. Linux is full of
> > great SIP solution , So for once I would not be too ashamed if Wengo for
> > Linux was a bit less achieved.
> >
> > people on Linux have already Full & friendly supported solution with
> > several software ( Pidgin/Gajim for IM ; Ekiga for audio/video )
>
> I recently tested IM with Pidgin and GAIM and IMO those SIP
> implementations are very bad.

Pidgin and GAIM are the same thing, it just changed its name. Pidgin
doesn't support SIP for now so I don't see how you could have tested
it. (pidgin does supprt SIMPLE though).

> >
> > the Main problem is how to use existing Linux SIP solutions with friends
> > on Windows & mac ; OW was about to become THE solution , just few bugs
> > still to correct ...
> >
> > BTW , the wengo company still advertise to its "wengo" experts to
> > receive their calls on Wengophone , so it's still part of their
> > businesss even if their flash interface might work even better than
> > Wengo ( but takes 100% cpu all the time ! Flash effect ) ,
> >
> > SO I think it would be the least for Wengo to keep up the hosting for
> > the project !  For neuf/Wengo such hosting is nothing compared to other
> > expenses .. isn't it ?
>
> If Wengo wont support OW anymore IMO it should be move to some other
> place (sourceforge, goggle code, novell forge, savannah, berlios ...)
>

On windows and mac people can use gizmo, it works great with ekiga or
any other SIP client on linux.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Why is it so calm

2008-01-06 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Jan 6, 2008 8:02 PM, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe people under Linux care about communicate with their friends
> under Windows or MacOS X
> And this can be achieved easily if the same software can be used on
> different OS don't you think?
>

If people have to use the same software in order to communicate with
each other then that would be a failure. Diversity is great and people
should be able to use whatever they want in order to communicate with
their friends because otherwise it would be like skype, granted on an
open protocol so it wouldn't be that terrible but still painful.

Right now the solution to that problem seems to be jingle as gtalk is
compatible with it and geeks can freely use their favorite XMPP client
on their free OS and add their windows and mac friends who can use
gtalk or trillian or pidgin or adium (when they get support for it and
they already do through patches for the most part).

> People talk about GTK+ under MacOS X for years now and nothing stable
> has been produced yet :/
>

true but it's doing pretty good since imendio took off and sponsored
the development.

The way I see it right now is gtalk+pdgin on windows adium on mac and
many clients on free unices. So the future looks good for free
compatible voip on all platforms (and even for video as adium and
pidgin are getting it).
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Why is it so calm

2008-01-06 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Jan 4, 2008 11:19 AM, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Problem is that non of them work under Windows nor MacOS X.

Well, people using Windows and MacOS X don't care about using a 100%
FOSS VoIP solution otherwise they wouldn't be using their OS in the
first place. They can always interface with FOSS clients using the
myriad of proprietary SIP clients available on their platforms.

> For example, the main problem for Landell is that they use GTK+ which
> does not work natively under MacOS X

Maybe you know of this project:
http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx

There is also empathy which uses Telepathy only and already has
audio/video support with patches using farsight (which is very
active). They also have a libempathy that could be used by other
clients.
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[Wengophone-devel] Re: Why is it so calm

2008-01-03 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Jan 3, 2008 9:26 AM, Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> with all the SIP clients I tested, only openwengo seems to have:
>  - presence
>  - voice over ip
>  - video
>  - instant message
>
> note: I'm only interested in pure SIP clients (lately also looking
> at pure XMPP clients), not in clients for multi protocols.

Hi Andreas,

Landel http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Landell of
Tapioca does all that and it even does google talk voip through XMPP
(jingle) if you want.
The tapioca framework is already pretty solid and being used on maemo already.

If you want pure SIP with video, go for ekiga but it doesn't have
presence I think and no msn, yahoo and stuff but it does instant
messaging.

My personal favorite for SIP (but no video) is twinkle
(http://www.twinklephone.com/) it really is amazing as it has strong
encryption, conference, call waiting, call redirection, multiple
account, presence, instant messaging, STUN and many more very cool
features. Also Twinkle has always worked out of the box for me, no
tweaking like with OW is necesary so +++ for twinkle.

Also, but that's for later, by the end of 2008, Kopete and Gaim should
talk or use telepathy and tapioca so by the end of this year we should
have pretty cool free voip+video solutions on all desktops so rejoice
:-)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Why is it so calm

2008-01-02 Thread Patrick Aljord
for people looking for a well supported free and open source voip
solution, I recomend the tapioca framework. It provides a free client
with icq MSN yahoo jabber and even jingle! It also comes with free
libraries in c#, glib , qt and python so you don't need to know c++ to
write your own client.
Also its backed by nokia so I don't think there is risk from them
switching to hotline business and give up on telephony :-)

What's the reason for dumping the wengophone by the way?
Was Wengo losing money on it?
Or is their new hotline business just more profitable?
Or both of the above?
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] New committer

2007-10-06 Thread Patrick Aljord
that was a little harsh but I agree with Sean, Git is way better than
svn and it's also much easier to switch from svn to git than from
SCons to cmake :-)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Initial committers on svn

2007-07-17 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 7/17/07, Andreas Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, git works the same way as Open Source work.


Yes and if you think about it, linux (the kernel) was born with open
source, it was one of the first software to use this model and in some
way if git works so well with linux it's because it's the SCM metaphor
for the open source model :). Though OpenWengo and linux are not
developed in the exact same way, I don't see any reason why it
shouldn't work perfect with openwengo (=>git nsis installer  for
windows http://lilypond.org/git/binaries/mingw/).
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Initial committers on svn

2007-07-17 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 7/17/07, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Our requirements are pretty specific:
 * Source control system must be cross-platform, and fast
 * A central canonical source for the software is essential
 * An easy migration path from our existing system (svn)

The cross-platform requirement rules out git for the moment, the best
distributed candidate is Mercurial, then perhaps Bazaar-NG.

In fact the argument about whether centralised or decentralised source
control is "better" is not appropriate. They are different, and suit
different needs. Subversion fulfils its requirements very well - it is
cross-platform, allows us to manage access rights for developers,
provides a canonical source for the source code, and was very easy for
developers to use from the start because of both windows GUI front ends
like Tortoise and a very similar command syntax to cvs.


The problem with centralized is that if I  check WengoPhone head and
modify it I can't commit it. I'm stuck with my modified version and I
need to send the patch to the WP ML and wait for the wengo dev
blessing to include my patch (I'm not blaming wengo devs, this is how
svn work).
Every devs should be able to commit his own code to his own branch.
With decentralized I can do just that. I can commit locally and then
you wengo devs can pull the changes from me if you like them. You can
have public repos with decentralized SCM too.
Anyway, I guess it's all up to you and thanx for replying :-)

Patrick
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Initial committers on svn

2007-07-16 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 7/16/07, Patrick Aljord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

there's a tool for easy migration from svn to git:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-svn.html



oops, that would be:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-svnimport.html
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Initial committers on svn

2007-07-16 Thread Patrick Aljord

how about switching to a decentralized SCM like git, it will get rid
of all the commit permissions head aches.
Have you seen the Linus presentation on why centralized SCM suck?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8

also a xorg developer opinion on why git is superior:
http://keithp.com/blog/Repository_Formats_Matter.html

and here is a message from a SVN developer admitting that linus is
mostly right and that decentralized functionalities will be added to
future version of SVN:
http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=128111

there's a tool for easy migration from svn to git:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-svn.html

HTH
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[Wengophone-devel] erratum on the webpage

2007-05-29 Thread Patrick Aljord

Hey all,
I noticed that on the openwengo.org page here:
http://www.openwengo.org/index.php/openwengo/public/homePage/openwengo/public/projectsNgDownload

it says:

#  OpenWengo 2.1.0(DEB package - 24.1 Mb)
Tested on Ubuntu Breezy Badger.

the problem is that it doesn't link to a deb but to a bz2 binary and
"tested on ubuntu breezy" sounds a little old. Hope you find time to
fix it.

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] openwengo on koders.com ?

2006-10-12 Thread Patrick Aljord
it might not be on koders.com but it is on google codesearch though:http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=wengophonebut it seems like openwengo's svn servers haven't been crawled yet, it can be submitted here, I'm not sure what is the URL to add so I'll let you do it:
http://www.google.com/codesearch/addcodeother example:http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=wengo+fuck
 :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] OpenSSL alternatives

2006-10-10 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 10/10/06, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Exactly gnuTLS under Windows is a really big unknown.

Well actually the upcomming 1.5 version will come with a windows
version and an installer.
Here the announcement:
http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnutls-dev/2006-August/001195.html


From the post:

"One goal with the 1.5.x branch is to make Windows x86 a supported
platform for GnuTLS.  We do this by providing a binary Windows
installer of GnuTLS, cross-compiled from GNU/Linux using MinGW and
NSIS, see below."

You can already grab the source and the exe installer from here:
ftp://ftp.gnutls.org/pub/gnutls/win32

Here is the Windows installer (14MB):
ftp://ftp.gnutls.org/pub/gnutls/win32/gnutls-1.5.1.exe

Pat
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[Wengophone-devel] Re: OpenWengo is on the dot

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Aljord

by the way I posted the article about two weeks ago, too bad they
posted it just now that the deadline has past :(

On 7/13/06, Patrick Aljord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey all,
I posted an article about Code Camp on kde news :)
Hope it will bring some devs.
http://dot.kde.org/1152811096/

cheers

Pat


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[Wengophone-devel] OpenWengo is on the dot

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Aljord

Hey all,
I posted an article about Code Camp on kde news :)
Hope it will bring some devs.
http://dot.kde.org/1152811096/

cheers

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] wengo

2006-06-19 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 6/19/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,


On 6/19/06, sami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i am facing one problem relating to wengo accout. After downloading the
wengo,
> i want to open account, it s not working.
>

I'm sorry that you have encountered issues with your Wengo account. However,
the OpenWengo community does not deal with the Wengo platform, so we won't
be able to help you in this case. Please, post a message on www.wengo.com
forums, it is very likely that you'll get some help.

Best regards,
--
Julien Gilli

Julien, I think Sami is trying to create an account. If he´s using the
old buggy classic on Gnu/Linux, chances are that the link on the
WengoPhone doesn´t open his browser. When you go to My Wengo on
OpenWengo.com it leads you to
http://openwengo.com/index.php/displayLogin and there is no way to
create an acount without downloading the wengophone which doesnt link
right on Gnu/Linux.

Maybe it´s time to allow people to create an account without
downloading the wengophone or fix this browser bug on gnu/linux so
that people can open an account and actually use the wengophone :)
maybe its been fixed though on NG i didnt check.

Pat
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[Wengophone-devel] wengophone in arklinux

2006-06-03 Thread Patrick Aljord

from http://www.arklinux.org:
"We have decided to add Voice-over-IP software to Ark Linux - this
release candidate contains KPhone, Twinkle and OpenWengo for testing.
We aren't planning to duplicate functionality -- in 2006.1 final, only
one of them will be present (the others will remain available in the
extra download repositories). If you prefer one of them over the
others, please discuss it in the forums - we need some input on which
one to make the default."

so to all arklinux users (and others :-), go to the forum and support openwengo!
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] How to translate

2006-05-31 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 5/30/06, Juan Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello:
I need to translate WengoPhone 2 beta to spanish.
How could this be done instead of manually editing all C++ and .UI files?
seems like the lang XML .TS file does not affect the build of wengo.

is there a way?


ts files need qt-linguist to be translated then use lupdate and
lrelease when it's done. You need to download Qt4 to get those tools.
With classic, translators used to do the qt-linguist part then send
the translated ts file to the list for inclusion.
http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/TranslateWengoPhone
has all the info you need cause NG is still based  on Qt so it uses
the same ts files. Note though that it's better to wait for string
freeze. I also read that openwengo might use rosetta
https://launchpad.net/rosetta for organizing translations :-)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] WengoPhone 2.0 Beta1 released!

2006-05-18 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 5/19/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello everyone,

We have good news for you:
http://www.openwengo.org/index.php/openwengo/public/homePage/news?payload[newsId]=0
!
 Feel free to report bugs and send feedback.


I love the buddy  icons, do you know what license they use?

thanx in advance

Pat

PS: not only the icons rule, the whole thing is amazing of course :)
congrats!
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Some proposals

2006-05-16 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 5/17/06, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Priorities are more like:- audio conference (already working for 3 people)- video conference- file transfer (huge subject in order to bypass NAT and firewalls)- improving existing features- and a plugin system
it would be great also to provide an sdk with an easy to use API like skype does, I know wengo already has a mini lib but I don't know if it as good as a full fledged   sdk with api using dbus (i know it's unstable on win32 so it'll probably take some time)or something else. With an official SDK downloadable from 
openwengo.org, developpers that wish to write their own app based on OpenWengo Technology ® :) could do so quickly instead of checking svn to search for the mini lib etc. I know that Julien posted a ticket about that so it will be probably be done some day :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Some proposals

2006-05-14 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 5/14/06, michel memeteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Le Vendredi 12 Mai 2006 15:42, Carla Ares a écrit:
> mm...
> googling last wednesday I have found this website
> http://www.icebrains-soft.com/skype_library_0, that said it has a library
> made to intercomunicate with skype.
>
This library needs the skype client to work , anyway , I think everybody
should just BOYCOTT SKYPE msn and other closed networks , Let's get a
SIP-jingle audio video client to work , and people will just ignore those
crappy software ..;

It's not worth it to spend a damn minutes on investigating how the F*** skype
works , nobody wants to be an open proxy  !!


couldn't agree more, I wrote a little page on my blog about the issue
with skype that openwengo gracefully linked their website to:
http://fossvoip.blogspot.com/2005/12/why-thou-shall-not-use-skype.html

(sorry for the shameless plug :)

Pat
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[Wengophone-devel] wikipedia's article update

2006-05-10 Thread Patrick Aljord

hey all,
I updated the wikipedia article in English.
We now have:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone (the software, will be updated
when NG comes out)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWengo (the community project)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wengo (the sip provider (-: )

if you find any mistakes, feel free to modify them.

also to wengo officials, I used the openwengo.org's favicon on the
wengophone article. is this the right logo to use? if it is ok please
confirm what license (fairuse?; gpl?, CC? etc) should be used
otherwise they will delete it in a week or so here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Favicon.PNG

cheers,

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Translation SWE

2006-05-04 Thread Patrick Aljord

On 5/2/06, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Charles Faÿ wrote:
> Just wanted to say that I could give a hand to translate wengo into
> swedish. Just inform me when the translation effort for the NG has started.

Tak so mycket!

Your help is welcome, we will send an email to this mailing-list when we
will freeze the graphical interface.
Translation module still has to be coded (i'm on it).


I don't know if this might be of help for you or if you already know
about it :-) but for my Qt4 app I used to do this for auto selection
of language in my main():

QString locale = QLocale::system().name();
   QTranslator translator;
   translator.load(QString("qtwengophone_")+ locale);
   app.installTranslator(&translator);

hope that helps
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[Wengophone-devel] wengophoneNG won't run twice on linux

2006-04-21 Thread Patrick Aljord
I downloaded the nightly build from yesterday and since I first quit
the program I can't get it to run another time, I get the "wengophone
is already running" qdialog instead. I tried "killall -9 qtwengophone
&& pkill -9 qtwengophone" and I even removed the ~/.wengo* but I still
get that error. is there some socket I should remove manually or
something?

thanx in advance

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[Wengophone-devel] fix for bug in WebBrowser.cpp

2006-04-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
in 
http://dev.openwengo.org/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/browser/softphone-classic/trunk/libs/util/src/WebBrowser.cpp

replace:

// If we have KDE
   if ( !return_value ) {
pProcess->clearArguments();
pProcess->addArgument( "kfmclient" );
pProcess->addArgument( "exec" );
pProcess->addArgument( url );
return_value = pProcess->start();
}

with:


// If we have KDE
   if ( !return_value ) {
pProcess->clearArguments();
pProcess->addArgument( "kfmclient" );
pProcess->addArgument( "exec" );
  pProcess->addArgument( " \"" );
pProcess->addArgument( url );
 pProcess->addArgument( "\" " );
return_value = pProcess->start();
}

it's ugly but it works, I guess there are more elegant ways to do so.

The problem is that kfmclient can't deal with "&" so
http://wengo.fr/index.php?yawl[S]=wengo.public.homePage&yawl[K]=wengo.public.displayLogin
turns into http://wengo.fr/index.php?yawl[S]=wengo.public.homePage

hope that helps

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Can the binary size of wengophone NG be reduced to 7M or even smaller?

2006-03-27 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 3/27/06, wanding wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because there will be a large amount
of users download the customized wengophone NG from a website, the
smaller size, the better.
Today I download Windows Messenger5.1, its size is only 7M, but the size of WengoPhoneNG-setup-release-symbols-20060324194208 is 10M.yes
but msn messenger is 9.2M. Knowing that wengophone suports msn, icq,
jabber,aim etc... plus video and audio conference, all of this in
debugging mode, that's not much :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] ng now run on linux ( Success after EOL caracters and updating of NG )

2006-03-14 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 3/14/06, Gianluca Sforna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I guess the package come from:http://www.trolltech.com/download/freebies.html
nope, I think it comes from http://www.trolltech.com/download/opensource.html
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Messaging App of the Year - Gaim (52.41%)

2006-03-13 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 3/13/06, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409053
>
> So next year let's be first ;)
Speaking  of Gaim, are you going to implement the libjingle part of
libgaim too so that people can chose between phapi and jingle? Or, as
you are sweatching to a jabber framework, are you waiting for google
to implement sip support in their jabber client to work on phpapi so
that  it is conform with a yet to be released SIP Jabber JEP
(compatible with future gtalk) :) ? (sorry for the complexity, just
curious)

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] NG teaser number 3

2006-03-08 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 3/8/06, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NG teaser number 3
>
cool :) could tell us who's who on the cam???
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] portuguese wikipedia page

2006-03-08 Thread Patrick Aljord
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWengo
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[Wengophone-devel] WengoPhone Wikipedia's article, help and input needed

2006-03-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
I put it here both my version and sebastian (german article author) version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Patcito

What I did:
I wrote a big article about wengophone which talks only about classic
for now, it will be modified accordingly when NG gets released. There
is a #Future section though that mentions NG. Also a section
#Limitations to brings some objectivity :)

what is needed:
* help is needed from wengo devs or PR to provide dates and "how it
all started" kind of story on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Patcito#History (please avoid words
such as "enjoyable", "friendly" and "enthusiasts" because it sounds
too much like advertising. It has to be factual, informative and
objective to avoid being labeled as subjective or in interested
editors (or spammers you know :))
* WengoPhone logo  != wengo.com commercial logo ? for now I put gaim
logo (it's on my profile)
* any idea suggestions, feel free to edit my page

cheers

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] German Wikipedia-Article about WengoPhone Classic

2006-03-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
here is my version, I put it on my wikipedia profile with yours:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Patcito
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: openwengo-ng doesn't compile on linux (r4334)

2006-03-01 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 3/1/06, gregor herrmann
> Personally I'm more a fan of the old Unix philosophy: one tool for
> one task. I've made more positive experiences with single-task
> applications (that are focussed and therefor very good in their only
> field)
You mean like Gnu/Emacs? :)

> > If there is a need for a bare-bone phone application, it may be interesting
> > to build a light, robust and simple application based on PhApi (or even
> > SipWrapper).
jgi what about the API that you used for the firefox extension? isn't
that some kind of "simple application based on PhApi"? I thought so.

> > We would love to help you if you wish to initiate such a
> > project.
I would be interested in building a light Qt4 (even Qtopia :))
softphone that would use the PhApi or SIP Wrapper but I'm not sure I
would have the knowledge to help you refactor the code to build a
bare-bone app though, I would need your help for that. (by the way I
think it would be nice to have basic text mesaging even on a bare-bone
refactored app like the ff extension)


> * NG: I'm not really happy about the fact that the builds often
> break, and if they succeed there's still either the "wrong ui file"
> bug or the mysterious segfault.
I'm annoyed too by those bugs but you know, NG is still under heavy
development so it's normal behaviour.  I suppose that if they chose to
integrate libgaim it's because they have the man power to do so and
I'm sure that in a couple of month we'll get something usable :) plus
libgaim gives a nice API to reuse (not that easy but fine), it's not
like the openwengo devs have to reverse msn protocol from scratch.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: french wikipedia for wengophone

2006-03-01 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 3/1/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,On 3/1/06, Patrick Aljord <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DO you think we should create a big WengoPhone article and include both ng and classic in it?
It's probably the best way to keep these articles in Wikipedia: it
seems that Wikipedia contributors are ok to keep these articles in one
big Wengo article. So i vote yes.
you mean in one big wengophone, openengo or wengo?
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: french wikipedia for wengophone

2006-03-01 Thread Patrick Aljord
DO you think we should create a big WengoPhone article and include both ng and classic in it?
On 3/1/06, Adrien (OpenWengo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for following this Patcito! I have added my votes./adrien
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[Wengophone-devel] Re: french wikipedia for wengophone

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 2/28/06, Patrick Aljord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> someone (a wikipedia admin) tried to delete both [[OpenWengo]] and
> [[WengoPhone_Classic]] stating that they belong to [[Wengo]].
If you don't want those two article to be deleted, please drop a line
here 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Pages_à_supprimer/WengoPhone_Classic#Conserver
and here 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Pages_à_supprimer/OpenWengo#Conserver
or they'll be deleted :( We do have some support though, some people
voted for keeping the article.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: openwengo-ng doesn't compile on linux (r4334)

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
>On 2/28/06, gregor herrmann
> But all of this applies to the IM/chat parts and not the phone stuff,
> doesn't it?
I guess you know the answer to that question... the point is that
wengophone needs text messaging and Jabber is the best solution for
that and libgaim the best pick to integrate it. So this is important
work as long as openwengo is concerned plus jabber support and
multiprotocol was one of the top wanted feature in the latest survey
on the list.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: openwengo-ng doesn't compile on linux (r4334)

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 2/28/06, Jochen Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:57:29PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:44:28 +0100, Julien Gilli wrote:
> >
> > >> BTW: what's this gaim stuff all about?
> > > It provides support for MSN, AIM and ICQ IM networks.
> >
> > And that helps with phone-calls?
>
> i don't believe so :)
>
> perhaps it would make sense to work out the basics first and implement
> cosmetic gagdets afterwards :)
Well, wengophone uses sip simple for text messaging and there is
nothing wrong with that except that no one uses it. So it's better to
have something a little more popular and just as free and open as sip
simple is. The answer is Jabber of course. That way we will be able to
communicate with Gtalk and other sip phones such as gizmo and zoep. A
jabber lib was needed so we just thought libgaim was the perfect fit
and while we're are it, we might take advantage of libgaim and make
openwengo uses all the protocols from libgaim :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: openwengo-ng doesn't compile on linux (r4334)

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 2/28/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > BTW: what's this gaim stuff all about?
> >
>
>  It provides support for MSN, AIM and ICQ IM networks.
>
and Jabber! :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: openwengo-ng doesn't compile on linux (r4334)

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 2/28/06, gregor herrmann
> BTW: what's this gaim stuff all about?

devs are integrating libgaim to the openwengo framework, I think basic
msn is already implemented.
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[Wengophone-devel] french wikipedia for wengophone

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
here it is:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_Classic

if you find errors or stuff tell me and I'll fix it. By the way
someone (a wikipedia admin) tried to delete both [[OpenWengo]] and
[[WengoPhone_Classic]] stating that they belong to [[Wengo]]. I
reverted both deletions. Here is the (short) discussion
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discuter:WengoPhone_Classic :

Cette page devrait - àmha - être intégrée à Wengo. Nÿco 28 février
2006 à 10:54 (CET)
Non, Wengo est un opérateur téléphonique alors que WengoPhone est l'un
des projet de la communauté OpenWengo.org. Wengo est juste un sponsor
de la communauté C'est comme si tu voulais mettre l'article de
OpenOffice dans celui de Sun sous prétexte que Sun sponsorise ce
dernier.Patcito 28 février 2006 à 18:07 (CET)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Error Message

2006-02-27 Thread Patrick Aljord
try this newer build
http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/Wengophone-0.99-rev3722-1.i386.deb
On 2/27/06, Christian Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi there,
>
> I am on Linux Ubuntu Breeze
>
> I continiusly get the Message :
> Wengo cannot work because some other Application is using the SIP-port.
> But this is not true tere is no othere Application using the port 5060
>
> I changed the port and still get the message.
>
> Why do I get this message ?
> How can I debug?
>
> greetings from germany
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iD8DBQFEAyKyzfXYfBELgHoRAjr0AKCfoYAjRLijLm3vpZovJ1YlpiRUnACcC3NB
> znGYWL+FqqNRGnI1/GevkKA=
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Preliminary debian package.

2006-02-16 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey Marco and all,
I would like to build the package for ubuntu dapper, you told the
other day on IRC that for ubuntu (just like debian) I would need to 
"compile all libs statically  on library wid non -fPIC code". Could
please tell me how to do that?

For now I just do this:
1) rm ffmpeg (using jgi script)
2) patch -p1 < 201_debian_ffmpeg.patch
3) QTDIR=/usr  scons softphone-deb-installer mode=release-symbols

Thanx in advance

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] new deb for classic

2006-02-13 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 2/14/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Sorry for the late reply Patrick, your contribution deserved as much
> attention as any other, without a doubt, but we're a bit busier than
> usual these days :-(.
no problem

> >Here is the new deb:
> >http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/Wengophone-0.99-rev3722-1.i386.deb
> >
> >
> >
> Is it really based on revision 3722? If so, it is an old revision. Could
> you please verify that you used a fairly recent revision?

As I told you on IRC i used that revision because the new one (rev
4225) didn't compile, this is the error I got:
In file included from
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:10:
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/AboutWindowForm.h:13:22:
error: qvariant.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/AboutWindowForm.h:14:21:
error: qdialog.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:13:25:
error: qpushbutton.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:14:20:
error: qlabel.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:15:23:
error: qgroupbox.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:16:21:
error: qlayout.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:17:22:
error: qtooltip.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:18:24:
error: qwhatsthis.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:19:20:
error: qimage.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/uic_AboutWindowForm.cc:20:21:
error: qpixmap.h: No such file or directory
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/AboutWindowForm.h:25:
error: expected class-name before '{' token
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/softphone/gui/AboutWindowForm.h:26:
error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'Q_OBJECT' with no type


> That would be very nice to have official Ubuntu packages. Patrick, would
> you like to investigate in that direction?

Yes I would like to. Maybe we could get this one into universe. But I
think if we want to get it into main, the easiest thing to do would be
to use the debian package from mnencia as I think that ubuntu's legal
and packaging rules are pretty similar to debian's.

> Thank you very much for this contribution, i hope to have some time to
> test it in the near future so that we can publish it on the .org web site.

by the way, can I post it (or the new rev) on kde-apps.org ?

thanx for your answers,

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Updating Updated Update

2006-02-10 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey Adrien,
Next week there will also be the 3GSM expo at Barcelona, it looks like
 it's going be huge http://www.3gsmworldcongress.com/ . I also read on
that blog http://blogs.qtdeveloper.net/archives/2006/02/07/3gsm-barcelona/
that trolltech is going to show off there new VoIP stuff based on
their new Qtopia2 :)
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[Wengophone-devel] new deb for classic

2006-02-09 Thread Patrick Aljord
I suggested putting new debs on openwengo.org as the one available is
kind of buggy so here is the one I built from a couple of days. It
works pretty decents.
It doesn't complain about SIP ports being already used all the time
and the link to create a wengo account does work.

Here is the new deb:
http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/Wengophone-0.99-rev3722-1.i386.deb

I built it on kubuntu drapper but it works on breezy too.

I built it this way:
QTDIR=/usr  scons softphone-deb-installer mode=release-symbolsk

I didn't modify any default options but just in case, here are the scons script:
http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/scons

Hope that helps

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Re: [Wengophone-devel] wengophone-ng compile error

2006-02-05 Thread Patrick Aljord
I think the Gnu/linux version doesn't compile for now, it will be
fixed next week I think.
On 2/5/06, Yohann Martineau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> I'm trying to build wengophone-ng on linux. I've followed the steps of
> the wiki
> (http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/HowToBuildFromSourceNg#Buildit)
>
> but I get the following error while building :
>
> g++ -fno-common -Wall -frtti -fexceptions -DQT_CORE_LIB=1 -DQT_DLL=1 
> -DQT_GUI_LIB=1 -DQT_NO_KEYWORDS=1 -DQT_PLUGIN=1 -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT=1 
> -DUNICODE=1 -Irelease-symbols/libs/sound/include -Ilibs/sound/include 
> -Irelease-symbols/libs/util/include -Ilibs/util/include 
> -I/usr/local/include/boost-1_33_1 -Irelease-symbols/libs/curl/include 
> -Ilibs/curl/include -Irelease-symbols/libs/curl/lib -Ilibs/curl/lib 
> -Irelease-symbols/libs/global/include -Ilibs/global/include 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include/Qt 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include/QtCore 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include/QtGui 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include/QtNetwork 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include/QtDesigner 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/include/QtXml 
> -I/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.1-snapshot-20060204/mkspecs/linux-g++ 
> -Irelease-symbols/libs/portaudio/pa_common -Ilibs/portaudio/pa_common -c -o 
> release-symbols/libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.o 
> libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.cpp
> libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.cpp: In static member function 'static int 
> AudioDevice::getWaveOutDeviceId(const std::string&)':
> libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.cpp:158: error: conversion from 
> 'std::list >' to non-scalar type 
> 'StringList' requested
> libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.cpp: In static member function 'static int 
> AudioDevice::getWaveInDeviceId(const std::string&)':
> libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.cpp:173: error: conversion from 
> 'std::list >' to non-scalar type 
> 'StringList' requested
> scons: *** [release-symbols/libs/sound/src/unix/AudioDevice.o] Error 1
> scons: building terminated because of errors.
>
> I don't think it comes from an environment issue... but I'm not sure as
> it is the first time I build wengophone-ng.
>
> Thx,
>
> yohann
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Catalan translation

2006-02-03 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey Manel,
There's nothing to translate for WengoPhoneNG as of yet cause they are
waiting for string freeze so that we don't translate strings (that
won't be in the final version) for nothing.
You can translate classic though:
http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/TranslateWengoPhone

cheers,

Pat

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>
> I would like to translate WengoPhone NG to catalan language as I've seen
> that no translation to this language is started.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manel
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Scons, GNOME and PyGTK

2006-02-03 Thread Patrick Aljord
There is also bksys here:
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/bksys/
it has support for macos, gnu/linux and windows and there is a pkgconfig.py I didn't try it yet though..On 2/3/06, Julien Gilli <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello,It seems that the GNOME project has had a little bit of interest in
evaluating SCons as their build system.You can read this thread:http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-December/msg00106.html
and this one on the PyGTK mailing list:http://www.mail-archive.com/pygtk@daa.com.au/msg12252.htmlThere may be interesting ideas in this implementation that we could use
in WengoScons NG to improve it. Among other things, it seems that thereis a good support for pkgconfig.I'd love that someone review the scons' tool developed for PyGTK andreport to the list what we could re-use.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] openwengo.org suggestions

2006-02-02 Thread Patrick Aljord
On my 800x600 monitor in the screenshot page on the top left,
"WengoPhone Classic" and "Screenshots & Details" strings are
overlapping. I need to use Ctr-- to see it right with both firefox and
konqueror.
This is the page:
http://openwengo.org/?yawl[S]=openwengo.public.homePage&yawl[K]=openwengo.public.projectsClassic

screenshots of firefox:
http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/overlapff.png

screenshots of konqueror:
http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/overlapkonqueror.png
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[Wengophone-devel] openwengo.org suggestions

2006-02-01 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey gaarf and all,

I've just checked out the new openwengo.org site on my kubuntu and
well, congrats! it looks awesome!
anyway, I have a little critic/suggestion and jgi told me to post here
so here it goes.
The "This website serves as a hub to our Open Source projects.(...)"
block's fonts on the frontpage look really tiny, I don't know if it
was done on purpose but maybe it would be easier to read. What do you
think?
here is the screenshot:
http://p80.free.fr/wengostuff/newsitefonts.png

Hope that helps

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Spanish wikipedia - Spanish Language

2006-02-01 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 2/1/06, Gustavo A. Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Sebastian Heine escribió:
>  Patrick Aljord schrieb:
>
>
>  that would be great, I was thinking maybe a http://babel.altavista.com
> translation could be understandable enough, what do you think?
>
>  It is understandable, sometimes. ;-)
> It's good to get a quick overview but not for more, so you need to make
> a real translation or rewrite the sentences anyway.
>
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWengoPhone_Classic
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>  I told Patrick that too... you must use Universal Spanish Language, because
> you have errors on those sentenses...

I was suggesting using babel tool to get a quick idea of the German
article so we can work out something for the English article , not
using it  to actually write the article. I don't use babel tools to
translate my stuff I already told you so before. So please stop saying
false things about me.

First you say that I'm involved in OpenWengo only for getting my name
on the credits page:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wengophone-devel%40lists.openwengo.com/msg00769.html

then you keep insisting I used a machine to translate Wengo though I
told you several time I didn't.

Last but not least, a quick googling for your name returned that thread:
https://www.ututo.org/xp/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=186&forum=5&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=10

I won't translate it to English for decency but basically, Daniel
Olivera, the UTUTO project leader and the whole UTUTO commuity are
calling you the_ biggest_ _troll_ on earth for  insulting people on
the forum. So this is obviously not the first time you try to piss
people off. Could you please stop doing that?.

Have a nice day,

Pat

PS: sorry to the OpenWengo comunity for that mail but after those
repeated accusations from Mister Diaz I had to say something about it,
maybe I shouldn't have feed the troll though :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Phone call states

2006-01-31 Thread Patrick Aljord
There is umbrello which is pretty nice but obviously you didn't like
it :) , also there is auto-dia http://droogs.org/autodia/ which parse
code and output XML dia UML code (or images via graphviz and vcg),
maybe it works better than the Umbrello filter parser.
On 1/31/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Cantemir Mihu a écrit :
>
> > Thank you for clarifying this.
> >
> > Maybe you should replace the image on the wiki, so others won't use
> > the bad diagram.
>
> We should convert these images to UML or anything-else diagrams, so that
> we can actually use subversion to track changes.
> Does anyone know a better free tools than dia?
>
> All the best,
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Spanish wikipedia

2006-01-31 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/31/06, Sebastian Heine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Aljord schrieb:
>
> > @Sebastian: maybe we could both translate our stuff to English to work
> > something out and submit it to Julien (jgi)?   :)
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> of course we can do that. I don't know if I can translate it during the
> week but it should be done during the weekend.

that would be great, I was thinking maybe a http://babel.altavista.com
translation could be understandable enough, what do you think?

> By the way, we also need one or two good screenshots from WP|C, WP|NG
> and OpenWengo for the Wikimedia which we can use inside the articles.
> Maybe someone made allready a few for the new website, we could use.

Yes it does need screenshots indeed but maybe it would be better to
have localized screenshots showing German version for de.wikipedia and
Spanish for es.wikipedia, some people are scared with English here,
don't know about Germany though :) etc


> > Maybe we could post it in English on the openwengo Wiki first because
> > the wiki needs a clear defintion of wengophones,openwengo and wengo
> > anyway IMHO. Once we have a stable version on the wiki translators
> > could easilly pick it up and translate it on the various wikipedias.
>
> For OpenWengo we allready have a good article in english from Julien,
> which we can modify if needed.
Yes, my [[OpenWengo]] is basically Julien's translated into Spanish.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Spanish wikipedia

2006-01-30 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/30/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,Patrick Aljord a écrit :>I added Spanish wikipedia here:>>http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWengo>
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wengo>http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_Classic>http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_NG
>>>Great,thanks! Are these pages translated from German versions thatexisted prior to the Spanish one? 
I wrote these articles from scratch as I don't speak German.
 >Note  that the Classic and the NG articles are very similar, I only added to NG:
>- crossplatform mac,gnu/linux and windows>- firefox extention>- gui agnostic>- API>- libgaim integration>>I also wrote that while not all of these are implemented, NG is
>already compilable and can be used to make phone calls on Mac nix and>windows, is that ok?>>>It is ok, but at this stage it doesn't run on GNU/Linux systems, forexample.

Ok I'll fix that. 
>For both article I said that the choice of provider makes it>attractive cause people can choose the cheapest solution according to
>their needs and that it was compatible with other SIP phones and futur>google talk when it will support SIP and when NG will support>libjingle through libgaim :) I also said that it had a straight
>forward GUI a la MSN and yahoo! mess. I divided that way:>>0 Short definition>1 GUI>2 Calls>3 Protocol>4 Particularities>>Need to add some screenshot, i'll do it tomorrow.
>>Sounds pretty good to me!>If you like it I'll translate it English to put it in the English version.>>There are versions of these pages in other languages, i think it would
be best to synchronize every existing versions of these pages first.Could you please contact Sebastian, who authored the German version, toagree on a common text?Maybe
we could  post it in English on the openwengo Wiki first because
the wiki needs a clear defintion of wengophones,openwengo and wengo
anyway IMHO . Once we have a stable version on the wiki 
translators could easilly pick it up and translate it on the various
wikipedias.
>PS: I also added OpenWengo to the list of softfones on the English>Wikipedia :) here 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_phone>I would personnally rather mention "WengoPhone NG" as a softphone, notOpenWengo. OpenWengo is a community of enthusiasts who work on different
projects, one of them is WengoPhone NG, which is a softphone. What doyou think about this?
True but I didn't really know which version to choose from NG or
classic plus the OpenWengo article features a nice screenshot of the
softphone with links to wengophones articles and there are no
WengoPhones articles yet in English.
All the best,
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[Wengophone-devel] Spanish wikipedia

2006-01-29 Thread Patrick Aljord
I added Spanish wikipedia here:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWengo
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wengo
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_Classic
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_NG

Note  that the Classic and the NG articles are very similar, I only added to NG:
- crossplatform mac,gnu/linux and windows
- firefox extention
- gui agnostic
- API
- libgaim integration

I also wrote that while not all of these are implemented, NG is
already compilable and can be used to make phone calls on Mac nix and
windows, is that ok?

For both article I said that the choice of provider makes it
attractive cause people can choose the cheapest solution according to
their needs and that it was compatible with other SIP phones and futur
google talk when it will support SIP and when NG will support
libjingle through libgaim :) I also said that it had a straight
forward GUI a la MSN and yahoo! mess. I divided that way:

0 Short definition
1 GUI
2 Calls
3 Protocol
4 Particularities

Need to add some screenshot, i'll do it tomorrow.
If you like it I'll translate it English to put it in the English version.

Pat

PS: I also added OpenWengo to the list of softfones on the English
Wikipedia :) here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_phone
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] German Wikipedia-Article about WengoPhone Classic

2006-01-29 Thread Patrick Aljord
a quick babel.altavista.com translation says:

This article was suggested for deletion. If you mean that this article
should not be deleted, take part you please in the discussion on in
side indicated left down. On the deletion after seven days one
decides. During this time it is naturally possible to extend and
improve the article. If you are one of the authors of the article, do
not read you Wikipedia:Was means please before a delete request
through and remove the delete request under any circumstances
arbitrarily. The discussion over this request takes place on the
delete candidate side.

Here the concrete reason, why this article is not to correspond to the
quality requirements: Relevance? With the many empty subsections is
not the answer "" near. Asthma 11:30, 28 January 2006 (CET)


On 1/29/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Patrick Aljord wrote:
>
> >I don't speak German but I think the article is about to be deleted
> >http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_Classic
> >
> >
> Could someone translate to english what is said on the top of the page
> please?
>
> All the best,
>
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] German Wikipedia-Article about WengoPhone Classic

2006-01-29 Thread Patrick Aljord
I don't speak German but I think the article is about to be deleted
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone_Classic

On 1/29/06, Jochen Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:20:23PM +0100, Julien Gilli wrote:
> > Although i don't understand a word of german unfortunately, i'd like to
> > make one comment. It seems that OpenWengo is mentionned only in the
> > table that sits on the right of the page. Maybe it would be cool to
> > further explain in the article the relationship between the OpenWengo
> > community and WengoPhone Classic, using two or three sentences ?
>
> there is, by the way, also an article about openwengo:
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WengoPhone
>
> and another thing: is there any help needed doing german translations
> for gui or manuals etc?
>
> have a nice day, jozi
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] About Spanish Translations

2006-01-20 Thread Patrick Aljord
hey Gustavo,
i'm the Spanish translator, if you find any mistakes feel free to
correct them and mail me if you want to.
On 1/20/06, Gustavo A. Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I will copy the same post as the forum (discussed in the forum:
> http://www.openwengo.com/support/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2098#2098):
>
> --
>  Hi!!
>
>  Well.. i don't know is this will be the correct forum Place to post.
>  First the First: I think Spanish translations are not quite well "done".
> The one being translated Is more like "google" style translation than
> Universal Spanish.
>  I asked one day for helping in translations for Spanish (in the Forum), but
> one user says that "he already has that work done", and i think we must help
> each other and not only for the "inclusion of their names on the WengoPhone
> credits", but as a team.
>
>  I ask again for helping in Universal Spanish Translations, not for personal
> Spanish Translations...
>
>  Cheers!!
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>
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] NG UML Diagrams

2006-01-19 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/19/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Patrick Aljord a écrit :
>
> >I was playing with umbrello yesterday and tried the "import code"
> >feature on some of NG headers.  This is what I got:
> >
> >http://p80.free.fr/model.png
> >http://p80.free.fr/control.png
> >http://p80.free.fr/presentation.png
> >
> >
> Neat!
>
> >looks cool, not sure if it might be useful though, could be posted on
> >the wiki :)
> >
> >
> Definitely! It seems that some of the classes are separated from others,
> whereas there should be linked to them in some way or another IMHO.
> I will install umbrello and try to clean up these diagrams so that we
> can post them on the Wiki.
Here is the source:
http://p80.free.fr/model.xmi
http://p80.free.fr/control.xmi
http://p80.free.fr/presentation.xmi
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[Wengophone-devel] NG UML Diagrams

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick Aljord
I was playing with umbrello yesterday and tried the "import code"
feature on some of NG headers.  This is what I got:

http://p80.free.fr/model.png
http://p80.free.fr/control.png
http://p80.free.fr/presentation.png

looks cool, not sure if it might be useful though, could be posted on
the wiki :)

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Innovative ideas

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick Aljord
but please explain me what kind of feature you'd like to put into the
embedded XUL interface? When I run wengo  I just want to call people,
chat and see who's online and stuff. Embedding an html browser that
would then load a XUL interface really sounds bloated IMHO. Just
retrieving some basic user account info (like credit$) seems enough
and does not require embedding an HTML engine (eg. by retrieving an
XML file and displaying the data in Qt or GTK or other's widgets) but
that's just my opinion :).
There could be a fully-XULed-easily-updatable wengo client, but
embedding XUL into yet another toolkit such as Qt sounds weird.
 What do you think?

Pat

On 1/18/06, Adrien (OpenWengo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opera's CSS support is... weird. not "bad", but definitely weird. And
> Daniel is right, not F/OSS, blah! As far as cross-platform rendering
> engines go, it's pretty much gecko, or gecko. I'd really like to see
> KHTML on Windows but apparently there are hurdles there.
>
> So... Here's a thought. If we can serve HTML from a server, could we not
> serve XUL markup as well? Imagine the wengophone loads a fresh XUL
> script upon loading, and just renders that instead of HTML for the
> "welcome" tab. We could then really deliver updated features between
> releases... Actually we would be blurring the sheer notion of a "release"...
>
> Does this make sense or am I missing something?
> /a
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Glazman wrote:
> > jerome wagner wrote:
> >
> >> what other cross platform option exist (apart from a platform to
> >> platform specific integration - safari for mac, ie for windows, ??
> >> for linux) that could bring at least a pretty up to date html and css
> >> support ?
> >
> > Opera. But it's not free, not open-source.
> >
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Innovative ideas

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick Aljord
Just a thought, do we really need that? embedding a web browser into a
messenger? I have an old PC and starting the windows version with the
embedded IE makes it very slow at start up. Maybe it could use some
SOAP or other XML method to retrieve and display basic information
about the user account, and if the user wants more(eg. buy credits
etc) it could open  to the openwengo.com site
or else.
What do you think?

Pat

On 1/18/06, Philippe BERNERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And Safari can be embedded on MacOS X
>
>
>
> Philippe Bernery<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://dev.openwengo.com
>
>
> Le 18/01/06 16:17, «Patrick Aljord» <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:
>
> > On 1/18/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Patrick Aljord wrote:
> >>> indeed, I think from a developper point of view, KHTML is really easy
> >>> to use cause it has a very nice and simple API. As an example  Amarok,
> >>> KTorrent and many other added embedded KHTML to their app. This can be
> >>> done in very few lines of codes. Here you can find more info about it:
> >>> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/khtml/
> >>>
> >> The problem with KHTML is that it seems to be unusable on Windows. A
> >> port has started a while ago, but seems to have stopped :
> >> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/khtml/.
> >>
> > I think you meant http://khtml-win32.sourceforge.net/ :)
> > Maybe we could use embedded IE on windows and KHTML on *nix as they
> > seem to be more simple to implement.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Innovative ideas

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/18/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Patrick Aljord wrote:
> > indeed, I think from a developper point of view, KHTML is really easy
> > to use cause it has a very nice and simple API. As an example  Amarok,
> > KTorrent and many other added embedded KHTML to their app. This can be
> > done in very few lines of codes. Here you can find more info about it:
> > http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/khtml/
> >
> The problem with KHTML is that it seems to be unusable on Windows. A
> port has started a while ago, but seems to have stopped :
> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/khtml/.
>
I think you meant http://khtml-win32.sourceforge.net/ :)
Maybe we could use embedded IE on windows and KHTML on *nix as they
seem to be more simple to implement.
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Re: Innovative ideas

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/18/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Daniel Glazman wrote:
> > Julien Gilli wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have any insight on this subject?
> > Cross-platformness, open-source, embedabbility, 134,000,000 downloads.
> > You really need more arguments ?-)
> There are other cross-platform, open source and embeddable web browsers.
> They might be easier to use from a developer point of view, and

indeed, I think from a developper point of view, KHTML is really easy
to use cause it has a very nice and simple API. As an example  Amarok,
KTorrent and many other added embedded KHTML to their app. This can be
done in very few lines of codes. Here you can find more info about it:
http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/khtml/

also note that KDE developers  plan to implement a complete OS X
Dashboard compatibility layer to KHTML, which might be use for some
cool wengo widgets :D

I'm don't know if Gecko is as easy to use though.

Pat
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[Wengophone-devel] AboutWindow.ui diff and suggestion

2006-01-13 Thread Patrick Aljord
I made some change to the AboutWindow.ui inspired by the KDE one.
here is the svn diff:
http://p80.free.fr/AboutWindow.ui.diff
and here is the new full version:
http://p80.free.fr/AboutWindow.ui
screenshot:
http://p80.free.fr/AboutWindow.png

I split it into 5 tabs:
about: small definition of wengo and build ID (that needs to be auto
generated, I leave it to the devs)

authors: tanguy and co + link to the wiki

based on: phApi, exosip,ffmpeg and co + links to their
webpages+respective licenses for each project

translators: name of original translators, link to the wiki
I would like to display only the name of the translator of the
language that is currently used.
eg:
for the English version : Official Wengo Team
for the Portuguese version that string would be translated into:"
Dario Ornelas"
for the Dutch version that string would be translated into "Sander Tuit"
@jgi: I don't think that would require special hard coding, right?

License agreement: GPL2

I think it's more clearer this way and looks better, what do you
think? tell me if you have suggestions, jgi tell me about the
stable/development number version thing if this is how you want it.

Pat
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Scratch pad with wengo

2006-01-12 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/12/06, Julien Gilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Jean-Eric wrote:
> > I'm wondering if that will be possible to develop a Scratch pad for
> > Wengo.
> > I mean a window in which I can draw some small graphics that are
> > directly shown on the other computer. Ala chat window but with
> Some similar ideas have been proposed by Claudio Erba (thanks!) here :
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.voip.wengophone.devel/583* .*
> > Is that hard/possible to extend the protocol used by wengo?
> Currently, chat uses SIP/SIMPLE, i don't know if it is suitable for this
> task.
> > I think that's possible since the Video is possible, no?
> Implementing white-board with video doesn't sounds like a good idea to
> me,
Julien I think what Jean-Eric meant was "since it's possible to extend
the protocol to do video, it should be possible to extend it to use
whiteboard", I don't think he meant "let's pipe the whiteboard into
the video thing :)" but I might be wrong.

To answer your question I think whiteboard would be great. I came
across this the other day
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/pub/qt/source/qtcanvas-opensource-4.1.0.tar.gz
 (I was told final version will be in 4.2) it could make it easier
though it would not be toolkit independent.

Hope that helps

Pat

PS: don't worry about the nightly build Julien I'll wait for tomorrow :)
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[Wengophone-devel] NG crash at startup on ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Patrick Aljord
When I try to run it I get a dialogbox "Wrong ui file", this is the output:

$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./debug/libs/curl:./debug/wifo/phapi ./debug/qtwengophone
(debug) P6Wenbox: yealinkwenbox
(error) P6Wenbox: Wenbox dll not loaded
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: WengoPhoneLogger created
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: ContactList created
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: WenboxPlugin created
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: WengoPhone::init() finished
(debug) P10WengoPhone: The model thread is ready for events
(debug) P12QtWengoPhone: QtWengoPhoneLogger added
(debug) P12QtWengoPhone: QtContactList added
qtwengophone: libs/qtutil/src/WidgetFactory.cpp:39: static QWidget*
WidgetFactory::create(const QString&, QWidget*): Assertion `__null &&
"Wrong ui file"' failed.
Aborted

I tried another time and I got this:
$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./debug/libs/curl:./debug/wifo/phapi ./debug/qtwengophone
(debug) P6Wenbox: yealinkwenbox
(error) P6Wenbox: Wenbox dll not loaded
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: WengoPhoneLogger created
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: ContactList created
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: WenboxPlugin created
(debug) P11CWengoPhone: WengoPhone::init() finished
(debug) P10WengoPhone: The model thread is ready for events
terminate called after throwing an instance of '__gnu_cxx::recursive_init'
  what():  N9__gnu_cxx14recursive_initE
Aborted
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[Wengophone-devel] added wengo to wikipedia's comparison of instant messengers

2006-01-07 Thread Patrick Aljord
Here it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messengers

if you see something wrong, correct it :)
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] Gentoo Ebuild for wengophone-NG, some build fixes and linking problems

2006-01-07 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 1/7/06, Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/7/06, Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But it still does not work for me because of the bunch of missing
> > symbols of the util library.
> > Is that also a known problem with a known workaround?
>
> The problem is that libutil is already provided by glibc and the
> workaround is to put the openwengo libutil path before /usr/lib.
> The real workaround is of course to rename libutil :)
> The ebuild works now:
> http://genstef.homelinux.org/local/net-im/wengophone/wengophone-0.1_pre20060106.ebuild
>
> Screenshot of application startup:
> http://genstef.homelinux.org/wengophone.png
> I currently do not have a wengophone account, and the link "Click
> here" does not work yet :(
> Anyone has the URL?
What version are yo using? the link works here. I compiled it today
from branch 1.0. Anyway here's the link:
https://www.openwengo.com/index.php?yawl[S]=wengo.public.homePage&yawl[K]=wengo.subs_152.persistOffer&lang=eng
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Re: [Wengophone-devel] openwengo_src_pkg script

2006-01-07 Thread Patrick Aljord
thx for the script, could you please send it as an attachment? some
lines are broken in yuor mail and when i try to execute it I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ./buildwengo.sh  -3
./buildwengo.sh: line 51: rm: No such file or directory
./buildwengo.sh: line 52: svn: No such file or directory
./buildwengo.sh: line 52: grep: No such file or directory
./buildwengo.sh: line 54: openwengo-NG-: No such file or directory

guess I'm doing something wrong

On 1/7/06, substance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
> i have write this little script that is an enhancement of auto_src_pkg
> keep in mind that is not yet finished but works almost for download the
> HEAD revision
> more features will come in next releases.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> #openwengo_src_pkg: script for easily download and packet an
> openwengo branch
> #
> #author: DartVaderyou can find me on irc, network: freenode
> channel: #openwengo
> #
> #revision #4
>
> #credits:
> #mnemoc for helping me with bash scripting, lot of this script
> come from him :D
> #jgi for the patience to aswer  my questions about svn :)
> #mathieu stute for the auto_src_pkg that is the original script
>
> #inizialiting some variables
> SVNOPT="--password guest --username guest"
> REPO="http://dev.openwengo.com/svn/openwengo";
> SVNQ=""
> TARV="v"
>
> usage(){
> echo "usage:"
> echo "./openwengo_src_pkg <-1|-2|-3> [-q] [-#revision]"
> echo "-1 for download classic devel"
> echo "-2 for download classic public"
> echo "-3 for download NG"
> echo "-q for quiet output"
> echo "-#revision for download a specific revision number
> (not yet implemented)"
> exit 1
> }
> while [ $# -gt 0 ]; do
> case "$1" in
> -1) PATH="softphone-classic"
> VERSION="trunk"
> DIR="openwengo-classic-devel" ;;
> -2) PATH="softphone-classic/branches"
> VERSION="1.0"
> DIR="openwengo-classic-public" ;;
> -3) PATH=""
> VERSION="trunk"
> DIR="openwengo-NG" ;;
> -q) SVNQ="-q"
> TARV="" ;;
> *) echo "$1 is an unknown option..."; usage; exit 1 ;;
> esac
> shift
> done
>
> [ "$VERSION" ] || usage
> #erase all & create root dir
> rm -rf $DIR{,.tar.bz2}
> REVS=(`svn ls -v ${SVNOPT} ${REPO}/$PATH|grep $VERSION`) && \
> svn export -r ${REVS[0]} $SVNQ ${SVNOPT} ${REPO}/${PATH}/${VERSION}
> $DIR-${REVS[0]} && \
> tar cj${TARV}f $DIR-${REVS[0]}.tar.bz2 $DIR-${REVS[0]}
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