Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Peter Odama]

Thanks Male, And can someone from Kobokonet yahoo group correct their
address, it always bounces back.

Thanks

Peter

On Jun 29, 2017 7:14 PM,  wrote:

> Hello Peter and everyone,
>
> If you haven't already done so, you will find a wealth of information by
> visiting the Africa Forest Forum We‎bsite including international
> scholarship opportunities for students and professionals wishing to upgrade
> their qualifications.
>
> Http://www.afforum.org/
>
> Thanks to Margaret and Andrew Aleli for bringing it to our attention.
>
> Furthermore, the link below provides a summary of regional consultations
> undertaken by FAO in Asia-Pacific region. Though dated (i.e. 1993), I think
> this information remains relevant to the debate/discussion on
> deforestation, forestation etc.
>
>
>
> http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/ac777e/ac777e03.htm#TopOfPage
>
>
>
> Also, if you google “Eucalyptus: blessing or curse” there is tones of
> information related to the subject.
>
>
>
> That’s why we really need our brothers and sisters in academia to join in
> and conduct further research on the unique situation in west nile.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> ‎Charles
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> *From: *Peter Odama
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:44 AM
> *To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Reply To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Cc: *Kobokonet Koboko
> *Subject: *Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>
> You are welcome Margaret
>
> On Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia"  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains
>> another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this
>> resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk"
>> as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to
>> sail. You are a great captain!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> M. Akulia
>>
>>
>>
>> From:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity] > oogroups.com>
>> Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>> [1 Attachment]
>> To: "kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com" <
>> kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Akulia,
>>
>> A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on
>> Eucalyptus trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.
>>
>> Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to
>> approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because
>> the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious
>> implications on people's livelihoods.
>>
>> Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my
>> strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof.
>> John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the
>> talk.
>>
>> The original document can be reached at the link below:
>>
>> http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantat
>> ions-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aleli.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I
>>> will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in
>>> actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's
>>> affair but consortium of cause with lead partner.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more
>>>> of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of
>>>> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s)
>>>> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international
>>>> agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which
>>>> supports such kinds of work.
>>>>
>>>> www.idrc.ca
>>>>
>>>> ‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students
>>>> at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain
>>>> such a project.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Alwin for your input as well.
>>>>
>>>> With the 

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[cdmale]

  Hello Peter and everyone,If you haven't already done so, you will find a wealth of information by visiting the Africa Forest Forum We‎bsite including international scholarship opportunities for students and professionals wishing to upgrade their qualifications.Http://www.afforum.org/Thanks to Margaret and Andrew Aleli for bringing it to our attention.Furthermore, the link below provides a summary of regional consultations undertaken by FAO in Asia-Pacific region. Though dated (i.e. 1993), I think this information remains relevant to the debate/discussion on deforestation, forestation etc. http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/ac777e/ac777e03.htm#TopOfPage Also, if you google “Eucalyptus: blessing or curse” there is tones of information related to the subject. That’s why we really need our brothers and sisters in academia to join in and conduct further research on the unique situation in west nile.  Regards,‎CharlesSent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.From: Peter OdamaSent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:44 AMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileReply To: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileCc: Kobokonet KobokoSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] DeforestationYou are welcome MargaretOn Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia" <akul...@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk" as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to sail. You are a great captain!Cheers,M. AkuliaFrom:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity] <kobokoandfriendscommunity@yahoogroups.com>Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PMSubject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation [1 Attachment]To: "kobokoandfriendscommunity@yahoogroups.com" <kobokoandfriendscommunity@yahoogroups.com>    Dear Akulia,A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on Eucalyptus trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious implications on people's livelihoods. Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof. John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the talk. The original document can be reached at the link below:http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantations-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdfRegards,Aleli.  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote:I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's affair but consortium of cause with lead partner.PeterOn Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote:  This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s) cld then take it further and seek research funds from international agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which supports such kinds of work. www.idrc.ca‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain such a project.Thank you Alwin for your input as well.With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector, civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.ThanksCharles Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation.
You are absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
“drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldact

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Peter Odama]

OK thanks

On Jun 29, 2017 11:50 AM,  wrote:

> ‎Peter,
>
> You may wish to consider approaching the Embassy of Japan for funding of
> this initiative. As you may be aware, the Japanese ambassador was in WN not
> too long ago for a tour of the region.
>
> I believe it was in Feb or March when JJ Avudria  circulated the info
> about grants for community projects from the Japan embassy. Please check
> your emails from Avudria. Advise if you can't find it so that someone who
> retained the email may recirulate.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> *From: *Peter Odama
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:44 AM
> *To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Reply To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Cc: *Kobokonet Koboko
> *Subject: *Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>
> You are welcome Margaret
>
> On Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia"  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains
>> another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this
>> resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk"
>> as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to
>> sail. You are a great captain!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> M. Akulia
>>
>>
>>
>> From:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity] > oogroups.com>
>> Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>> [1 Attachment]
>> To: "kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com" <
>> kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Akulia,
>>
>> A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on
>> Eucalyptus trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.
>>
>> Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to
>> approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because
>> the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious
>> implications on people's livelihoods.
>>
>> Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my
>> strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof.
>> John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the
>> talk.
>>
>> The original document can be reached at the link below:
>>
>> http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantat
>> ions-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aleli.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I
>>> will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in
>>> actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's
>>> affair but consortium of cause with lead partner.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more
>>>> of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of
>>>> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s)
>>>> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international
>>>> agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which
>>>> supports such kinds of work.
>>>>
>>>> www.idrc.ca
>>>>
>>>> ‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students
>>>> at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain
>>>> such a project.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Alwin for your input as well.
>>>>
>>>> With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has
>>>> now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector,
>>>> civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international
>>>> partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are
>>>> absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generation

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[cdmale]

  ‎Peter,You may wish to consider approaching the Embassy of Japan for funding of this initiative. As you may be aware, the Japanese ambassador was in WN not too long ago for a tour of the region.I believe it was in Feb or March when JJ Avudria  circulated the info about grants for community projects from the Japan embassy. Please check your emails from Avudria. Advise if you can't find it so that someone who retained the email may recirulate.CharlesCharlesSent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.From: Peter OdamaSent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:44 AMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileReply To: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileCc: Kobokonet KobokoSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] DeforestationYou are welcome MargaretOn Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia" <akul...@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk" as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to sail. You are a great captain!Cheers,M. AkuliaFrom:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity] <kobokoandfriendscommunity@yahoogroups.com>Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PMSubject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation [1 Attachment]To: "kobokoandfriendscommunity@yahoogroups.com" <kobokoandfriendscommunity@yahoogroups.com>    Dear Akulia,A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on Eucalyptus trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious implications on people's livelihoods. Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof. John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the talk. The original document can be reached at the link below:http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantations-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdfRegards,Aleli.  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote:I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's affair but consortium of cause with lead partner.PeterOn Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote:  This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s) cld then take it further and seek research funds from international agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which supports such kinds of work. www.idrc.ca‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain such a project.Thank you Alwin for your input as well.With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector, civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.ThanksCharles Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation.
You are absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
“drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have crystalized the way forward and the only
component missing is patronage. Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick
A and CD Male for your contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains
in our midst to translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that
will propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these brain

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Peter Odama]

You are welcome Margaret

On Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia"  wrote:

> Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains
> another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this
> resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk"
> as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to
> sail. You are a great captain!
>
> Cheers,
>
> M. Akulia
>
>
>
> From:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity]  yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
> [1 Attachment]
> To: "kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com" <
> kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Akulia,
>
> A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on Eucalyptus
> trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.
>
> Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to
> approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because
> the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious
> implications on people's livelihoods.
>
> Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my
> strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof.
> John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the
> talk.
>
> The original document can be reached at the link below:
>
> http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantat
> ions-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdf
>
> Regards,
>
> Aleli.
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama 
> wrote:
>
>> I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I
>> will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in
>> actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's
>> affair but consortium of cause with lead partner.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more
>>> of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of
>>> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s)
>>> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international
>>> agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which
>>> supports such kinds of work.
>>>
>>> www.idrc.ca
>>>
>>> ‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students
>>> at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain
>>> such a project.
>>>
>>> Thank you Alwin for your input as well.
>>>
>>> With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has
>>> now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector,
>>> civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international
>>> partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are
>>> absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
>>> “drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have
>>> crystalized the way forward and the only component missing is patronage.
>>> Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick A and CD Male for your
>>> contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains in our midst to
>>> translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that will
>>> propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
>>> why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these
>>> brainwaves on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas
>>> discussed on this platform.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to
>>> fund raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/war
>>> -orphans). I will be able to participate once there is a draft though
>>> so don’t count me out. In this day and age there is no excuse for
>>> neglecting to provide substitutes for the energy and/or building materials
>>> provided by trees. In other words, the reason for cutting down trees for
>>> domestic use can be nullified!!
>>>
>&g

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Margaret Akulia]

Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains
another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this
resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk"
as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to
sail. You are a great captain!

Cheers,

M. Akulia



From:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity] <
kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation [1
Attachment]
To: "kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com" <
kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com>




Dear Akulia,

A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on Eucalyptus
trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.

Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to
approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because
the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious
implications on people's livelihoods.

Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my
strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof.
John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the
talk.

The original document can be reached at the link below:

http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-
plantations-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdf

Regards,

Aleli.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama  wrote:

> I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I will
> share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in actions.
> Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's affair but
> consortium of cause with lead partner.
>
> Peter
>
> On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  wrote:
>
>> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more of
>> our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of
>> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s)
>> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international
>> agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which
>> supports such kinds of work.
>>
>> www.idrc.ca
>>
>> ‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students
>> at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain
>> such a project.
>>
>> Thank you Alwin for your input as well.
>>
>> With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has now
>> come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector, civil
>> society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international partners
>> to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are
>> absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
>> “drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have
>> crystalized the way forward and the only component missing is patronage.
>> Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick A and CD Male for your
>> contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains in our midst to
>> translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that will
>> propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
>> why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these
>> brainwaves on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas
>> discussed on this platform.
>>
>>
>> I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to
>> fund raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/war
>> -orphans). I will be able to participate once there is a draft though so
>> don’t count me out. In this day and age there is no excuse for neglecting
>> to provide substitutes for the energy and/or building materials provided by
>> trees. In other words, the reason for cutting down trees for domestic use
>> can be nullified!!
>>
>>
>> Everyone can be trained on environmental protection and some of this can
>> be synchronized with more effective and efficient support for refugees and
>> host communities. I am copying Alwin Bubendorfer and looping in my people
>> in Koboko because the more brains we have to tackle this elephant in the
>> room the better. Let’s translate this conversation into action plans!!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> M. Akulia
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27,

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Peter Odama]

I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I will
share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in actions.
Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's affair but
consortium of cause with lead partner.

Peter

On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM,  wrote:

> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more of
> our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of
> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s)
> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international
> agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which
> supports such kinds of work.
>
> www.idrc.ca
>
> ‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students at
> the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain
> such a project.
>
> Thank you Alwin for your input as well.
>
> With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has now
> come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector, civil
> society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international partners
> to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are
> absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
> “drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have
> crystalized the way forward and the only component missing is patronage.
> Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick A and CD Male for your
> contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains in our midst to
> translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that will
> propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
> why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these
> brainwaves on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas
> discussed on this platform.
>
>
> I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to
> fund raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/
> war-orphans). I will be able to participate once there is a draft though
> so don’t count me out. In this day and age there is no excuse for
> neglecting to provide substitutes for the energy and/or building materials
> provided by trees. In other words, the reason for cutting down trees for
> domestic use can be nullified!!
>
>
> Everyone can be trained on environmental protection and some of this can
> be synchronized with more effective and efficient support for refugees and
> host communities. I am copying Alwin Bubendorfer and looping in my people
> in Koboko because the more brains we have to tackle this elephant in the
> room the better. Let’s translate this conversation into action plans!!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> M. Akulia
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:20 PM,  wrote:
>
>> ‎Thanks Peter. We discussed this issue some years back on kobokonet where
>> it was mentioned Eucalyptus tree was the worst tree species introduced in
>> WN.
>>
>> We encouraged the gradual replacement of eucalyptus with the teak tree
>> which for those who were refugees in South Sudan, was the main tree species
>> supported by the German forestry team.
>>
>> The sad thing is that uganda has been independent for nearly 55 years. We
>> have a ministry responsible for forestry, university faculties that teach
>> forestry but we still continue‎ to plant the Eucalyptus tree.
>>
>> God have mercy...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>> *From: *Peter Odama
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:15 PM
>> *To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
>> *Reply To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
>> *Subject: *Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>>
>>  Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that eucalyptus
>> consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant them let's
>> think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific researched
>> knowledge sustainably to them, I know  our Scientists from west Nile will
>> never ever practice this and preach, but only work  for their salaries and
>> stay comfortably and die alone..
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti"  wrote:
>>
>>> At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and
>>> companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those
>>> without land to join so we a

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[cdmale]

  This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s) cld then take it further and seek research funds from international agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which supports such kinds of work. www.idrc.ca‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain such a project.Thank you Alwin for your input as well.With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector, civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.ThanksCharles Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation.
You are absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
“drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have crystalized the way forward and the only
component missing is patronage. Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick
A and CD Male for your contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains
in our midst to translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that
will propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these brainwaves
on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas discussed on
this platform. I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to fund raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/war-orphans).
I will be able to participate once there is a draft though so don’t count me out.
In this day and age there is no excuse for neglecting to provide substitutes
for the energy and/or building materials provided by trees. In other words, the
reason for cutting down trees for domestic use can be nullified!! Everyone can
be trained on environmental protection and some of this can be synchronized
with more effective and efficient support for refugees and host communities. I am copying Alwin
Bubendorfer and looping in my people in Koboko because the more brains we have to tackle this elephant in the room the
better. Let’s translate this conversation into action plans!!Cheers,

M. AkuliaOn Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:20 PM,  <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote:  ‎Thanks Peter. We discussed this issue some years back on kobokonet where it was mentioned Eucalyptus tree was the worst tree species introduced in WN. We encouraged the gradual replacement of eucalyptus with the teak tree which for those who were refugees in South Sudan, was the main tree species supported by the German forestry team.The sad thing is that uganda has been independent for nearly 55 years. We have a ministry responsible for forestry, university faculties that teach forestry but we still continue‎ to plant the Eucalyptus tree.God have mercy...Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.From: Peter OdamaSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:15 PMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileReply To: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that eucalyptus consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant them let's think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific researched knowledge sustainably to them, I know  our Scientists from west Nile will never ever practice this and preach, but only work  for their salaries and stay comfortably and die alone..On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti" <pangu...@gmail.com> wrote:At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you. As per the aspect of eucalyptus,  truth is eucalyptus drains water in wet areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However,  there are over 

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Margaret Akulia]

Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are
absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
“drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have
crystalized the way forward and the only component missing is patronage.
Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick A and CD Male for your
contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains in our midst to
translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that will
propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these
brainwaves on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas
discussed on this platform.


I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to fund
raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/war-orphans).
I will be able to participate once there is a draft though so don’t count
me out. In this day and age there is no excuse for neglecting to provide
substitutes for the energy and/or building materials provided by trees. In
other words, the reason for cutting down trees for domestic use can be
nullified!!


Everyone can be trained on environmental protection and some of this can be
synchronized with more effective and efficient support for refugees and
host communities. I am copying Alwin Bubendorfer and looping in my people
in Koboko because the more brains we have to tackle this elephant in the
room the better. Let’s translate this conversation into action plans!!


Cheers,


M. Akulia

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:20 PM,  wrote:

> ‎Thanks Peter. We discussed this issue some years back on kobokonet where
> it was mentioned Eucalyptus tree was the worst tree species introduced in
> WN.
>
> We encouraged the gradual replacement of eucalyptus with the teak tree
> which for those who were refugees in South Sudan, was the main tree species
> supported by the German forestry team.
>
> The sad thing is that uganda has been independent for nearly 55 years. We
> have a ministry responsible for forestry, university faculties that teach
> forestry but we still continue‎ to plant the Eucalyptus tree.
>
> God have mercy...
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> *From: *Peter Odama
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:15 PM
> *To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Reply To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
> *Subject: *Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>
>  Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that eucalyptus
> consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant them let's
> think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific researched
> knowledge sustainably to them, I know  our Scientists from west Nile will
> never ever practice this and preach, but only work  for their salaries and
> stay comfortably and die alone..
>
> On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti"  wrote:
>
>> At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and
>> companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those
>> without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you.
>> As per the aspect of eucalyptus,  truth is eucalyptus drains water in wet
>> areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the
>> construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However,  there are over
>> 600species that apply for different e ecological zones.
>> The choice of species matter and this is the reason u have to engage
>> professionals to manage your project.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Patrick Anguti
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2017 05:24, "Peter Odama"  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone
>>> interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential philanthropists
>>> or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green crusade
>>> for West Nile.
>>>
>>> Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community habitat
>>> it needs awareness education and demonstration which a single effort will
>>> be futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a joint anticipated
>>> risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and motivation and an
>>> eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for food with the
>>> effect of climate change in the region.
>>>
>>>  I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for  a
>>> pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt easily.
>>>
>>> BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to be
>>> educated as 

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[cdmale]

  ‎Thanks Peter. We discussed this issue some years back on kobokonet where it was mentioned Eucalyptus tree was the worst tree species introduced in WN. We encouraged the gradual replacement of eucalyptus with the teak tree which for those who were refugees in South Sudan, was the main tree species supported by the German forestry team.The sad thing is that uganda has been independent for nearly 55 years. We have a ministry responsible for forestry, university faculties that teach forestry but we still continue‎ to plant the Eucalyptus tree.God have mercy...Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.From: Peter OdamaSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:15 PMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileReply To: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that eucalyptus consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant them let's think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific researched knowledge sustainably to them, I know  our Scientists from west Nile will never ever practice this and preach, but only work  for their salaries and stay comfortably and die alone..On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti" <pangu...@gmail.com> wrote:At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you. As per the aspect of eucalyptus,  truth is eucalyptus drains water in wet areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However,  there are over 600species that apply for different e ecological zones. The choice of species matter and this is the reason u have to engage professionals to manage your project. Thanks. Patrick AngutiOn Jun 27, 2017 05:24, "Peter Odama" <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote:I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential philanthropists or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green crusade for West Nile.Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community habitat it needs awareness education and demonstration which a single effort will be futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a joint anticipated risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and motivation and an eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for food with the effect of climate change in the region. I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for  a pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt easily.BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to be educated as our parents sale the tobacco cured to the company back after depleting the environment for wood fuel for over 60 years in West Nile, they left no sustainable approach and they have left...more new tobacco companies will continue to cut the remaining wood fuel and disappear leaving us vulnerable "pakalast ".Moreso the increased number of refugees will add more threat to the natural forestry as they are not informed about the risk of cutting natural trees, moreover in South Sudan wildlife or cutting of natural forest in a community is understood from childhood and no one easily downs a tree, they have tough local bye laws, killing an animal can be a disaster for you in South Sudan. But in Uganda it's "Mana" from heaven, I don't care is killing us.A single demonstration in a sub county can cause an impact and involving NFA and communities.OdamaOn Jun 26, 2017 21:01, "Patrick Okuni" <paok...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear FriendsIt may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement or for the next generation.Nice week.Patrick OkuniOn 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear friends,Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait for the desertification in  West Nile? 

Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Peter Odama]

 Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that eucalyptus
consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant them let's
think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific researched
knowledge sustainably to them, I know  our Scientists from west Nile will
never ever practice this and preach, but only work  for their salaries and
stay comfortably and die alone..

On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti"  wrote:

> At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and
> companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those
> without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you.
> As per the aspect of eucalyptus,  truth is eucalyptus drains water in wet
> areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the
> construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However,  there are over
> 600species that apply for different e ecological zones.
> The choice of species matter and this is the reason u have to engage
> professionals to manage your project.
>
> Thanks.
> Patrick Anguti
>
> On Jun 27, 2017 05:24, "Peter Odama"  wrote:
>
>> I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone
>> interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential philanthropists
>> or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green crusade
>> for West Nile.
>>
>> Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community habitat it
>> needs awareness education and demonstration which a single effort will be
>> futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a joint anticipated
>> risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and motivation and an
>> eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for food with the
>> effect of climate change in the region.
>>
>>  I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for  a
>> pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt easily.
>>
>> BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to be
>> educated as our parents sale the tobacco cured to the company back after
>> depleting the environment for wood fuel for over 60 years in West Nile,
>> they left no sustainable approach and they have left...more new tobacco
>> companies will continue to cut the remaining wood fuel and disappear
>> leaving us vulnerable "pakalast ".
>>
>> Moreso the increased number of refugees will add more threat to the
>> natural forestry as they are not informed about the risk of cutting natural
>> trees, moreover in South Sudan wildlife or cutting of natural forest in a
>> community is understood from childhood and no one easily downs a tree, they
>> have tough local bye laws, killing an animal can be a disaster for you in
>> South Sudan. But in Uganda it's "Mana" from heaven, I don't care is killing
>> us.
>>
>> A single demonstration in a sub county can cause an impact and involving
>> NFA and communities.
>>
>> Odama
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2017 21:01, "Patrick Okuni"  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends
>>>
>>> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the
>>> refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in
>>> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
>>> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement
>>> or for the next generation.
>>>
>>> Nice week.
>>>
>>> Patrick Okuni
>>>
>>> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama  wrote:
>>>
 Dear friends,

 Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait
 for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees
 more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained
 on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
 http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/refugee-s
 training-uganda-vegetation-officials.

 Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to
 wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most
 members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit
 the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community
 and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered
 to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
 continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.

 Thanks

 Peter

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[Patrick Anguti]

At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and
companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those
without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you.
As per the aspect of eucalyptus,  truth is eucalyptus drains water in wet
areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the
construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However,  there are over
600species that apply for different e ecological zones.
The choice of species matter and this is the reason u have to engage
professionals to manage your project.

Thanks.
Patrick Anguti

On Jun 27, 2017 05:24, "Peter Odama"  wrote:

> I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone
> interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential philanthropists
> or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green crusade
> for West Nile.
>
> Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community habitat it
> needs awareness education and demonstration which a single effort will be
> futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a joint anticipated
> risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and motivation and an
> eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for food with the
> effect of climate change in the region.
>
>  I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for  a
> pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt easily.
>
> BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to be
> educated as our parents sale the tobacco cured to the company back after
> depleting the environment for wood fuel for over 60 years in West Nile,
> they left no sustainable approach and they have left...more new tobacco
> companies will continue to cut the remaining wood fuel and disappear
> leaving us vulnerable "pakalast ".
>
> Moreso the increased number of refugees will add more threat to the
> natural forestry as they are not informed about the risk of cutting natural
> trees, moreover in South Sudan wildlife or cutting of natural forest in a
> community is understood from childhood and no one easily downs a tree, they
> have tough local bye laws, killing an animal can be a disaster for you in
> South Sudan. But in Uganda it's "Mana" from heaven, I don't care is killing
> us.
>
> A single demonstration in a sub county can cause an impact and involving
> NFA and communities.
>
> Odama
>
> On Jun 26, 2017 21:01, "Patrick Okuni"  wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the
>> refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in
>> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
>> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement
>> or for the next generation.
>>
>> Nice week.
>>
>> Patrick Okuni
>>
>> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait
>>> for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees
>>> more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained
>>> on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
>>> http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/refugee-s
>>> training-uganda-vegetation-officials.
>>>
>>> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to
>>> wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most
>>> members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit
>>> the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community
>>> and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered
>>> to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
>>> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
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[Peter Odama]

I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone
interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential philanthropists
or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green crusade
for West Nile.

Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community habitat it
needs awareness education and demonstration which a single effort will be
futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a joint anticipated
risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and motivation and an
eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for food with the
effect of climate change in the region.

 I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for  a
pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt easily.

BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to be
educated as our parents sale the tobacco cured to the company back after
depleting the environment for wood fuel for over 60 years in West Nile,
they left no sustainable approach and they have left...more new tobacco
companies will continue to cut the remaining wood fuel and disappear
leaving us vulnerable "pakalast ".

Moreso the increased number of refugees will add more threat to the natural
forestry as they are not informed about the risk of cutting natural trees,
moreover in South Sudan wildlife or cutting of natural forest in a
community is understood from childhood and no one easily downs a tree, they
have tough local bye laws, killing an animal can be a disaster for you in
South Sudan. But in Uganda it's "Mana" from heaven, I don't care is killing
us.

A single demonstration in a sub county can cause an impact and involving
NFA and communities.

Odama

On Jun 26, 2017 21:01, "Patrick Okuni"  wrote:

> Dear Friends
>
> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the
> refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in
> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement
> or for the next generation.
>
> Nice week.
>
> Patrick Okuni
>
> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama  wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait
>> for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees
>> more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained
>> on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
>> http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/refugee-
>> straining-uganda-vegetation-officials.
>>
>> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to
>> wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most
>> members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit
>> the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community
>> and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered
>> to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
>> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>>
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[JohnAJackson]

Dear brothers and sisters
I want to remind you of the days of BAT. We left them alone to do whatever
they wanted. They failed to educate farmers about the value of planting
trees.
BAT introduced eucalyptus trees and planted them in the wetlands that fed
us during dry season.
Many of you who are 50+ remember our people used to produce vegetables;
sweet potatoes and cane sugar in the wet valleys.
50+ years today; majority of these wetlands have vanished. Ask that simple
question "Why". What happened?  Where did they go?
I saw similar problem in Kenya when I was in college. We went on
Environmental Science Tour of Masai Mara in June on out scars of Nairobi.
The dry heat makes the soil Crack into deep crevices you won't believe.
Animals have no grass to eat nor water to drink.
Sensitization and educating the population to plant trees is beginning of
the long journey. People need to understand co-existance with the flora and
fauna.
We can prevent the worst case by taking corrective actions now than "what
we do".  That is not a solution to the problem.
On Jun 26, 2017 1:01 PM, "Patrick Okuni"  wrote:

> Dear Friends
>
> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the
> refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in
> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement
> or for the next generation.
>
> Nice week.
>
> Patrick Okuni
>
> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama  wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait
>> for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees
>> more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained
>> on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
>> http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/refugee-
>> straining-uganda-vegetation-officials.
>>
>> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to
>> wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most
>> members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit
>> the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community
>> and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered
>> to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
>> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Patrick Gatre]

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On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Patrick Okuni  wrote:

> Dear Friends
>
> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the
> refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in
> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement
> or for the next generation.
>
> Nice week.
>
> Patrick Okuni
>
> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama  wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait
>> for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees
>> more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained
>> on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
>> http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/refugee-
>> straining-uganda-vegetation-officials.
>>
>> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to
>> wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most
>> members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit
>> the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community
>> and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered
>> to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
>> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Patrick Okuni]

Dear Friends

It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in the
refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation in
different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in retirement
or for the next generation.

Nice week.

Patrick Okuni

On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait
> for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees
> more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained
> on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
> http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/
> refugee-straining-uganda-vegetation-officials.
>
> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to wait
> for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most members
> in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit the
> villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community and
> spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered to
> start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
>
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[WestNileNet] Deforestation

[Peter Odama]

Dear friends,

Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all wait for
the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of trees more
so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been trained on
environmental protection, we will all suffer the same consequences
http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1456123/refugee-straining-uganda-vegetation-officials
.

Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even to wait
for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as most members
in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only visit the
villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire community and
spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has bothered to
start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the locals
continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.

Thanks

Peter
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