Re: VOTE: include WICKET-218 in 1.2.5

2007-01-19 Thread Paolo Di Tommaso

+1

On 1/18/07, Al Maw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Igor Vaynberg wrote:
 include https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-218 in 1.2.5

I've only seen this once before, but why not?
+1



Re: wicket examples on www.wicket-library.com

2007-01-19 Thread Juergen Donnerstag

It only gets restartet once a day. Thats usually it. It is not
available 100% that is true, but it is down only very few times. If
anyone wants to spend some time on investigating why it is done, I'm
more than happy to grant you access. Unfortunately I have only very
little time right now. It is a standard tomcat installation provided
by hoster for free.

Juergen

On 1/18/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

we do need a domain for our dedicated box, using ip addr sucks

-igor


On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Problem is that wicketframework.org points currently to sf.net, and I
 can't add subdomains without breaking the current wicketframework.org
 site.

 Perhaps we should also host wicketframework.org on that box, and
 redirect traffic from sf.net site to our own box. Then this is
 possible.

 Please note that wicketframework.org will probably cease to exist when
 we reach tlp status @apache. http://wicket.apache.org sounds good IMO.

 Perhaps the mentors could shine more light on the status of
 wicketframework.org after graduation?

 Martijn

 On 1/18/07, Frank Bille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And perhaps get some subdomains for
 
  build.wicketframework.org = http://81.17.46.170/bamboo
  examples.wicketframework.org/1.2 = http://81.17.46.170/wicket12/
  examples.wicketframework.org/1.3 = http://81.17.46.170/wicket13/
 
  and so on.
 
  Frank
 
  On 1/18/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   * Martijn Dashorst:
  
Why not download the examples yourself and run it locally?
  
   A better answer would be to take off the link to
   wicket-library.com, as it's not the first time that is it offline.
   --
Jean-Baptiste Quenot
   aka  John Banana   Qwerty
   http://caraldi.com/jbq/
  
 
 


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Re: wicket examples on www.wicket-library.com

2007-01-19 Thread Johan Compagner

lets see how stable our server is. It runs much more apps so it should go
down earlier!

johan


On 1/19/07, Juergen Donnerstag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It only gets restartet once a day. Thats usually it. It is not
available 100% that is true, but it is down only very few times. If
anyone wants to spend some time on investigating why it is done, I'm
more than happy to grant you access. Unfortunately I have only very
little time right now. It is a standard tomcat installation provided
by hoster for free.

Juergen

On 1/18/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 we do need a domain for our dedicated box, using ip addr sucks

 -igor


 On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Problem is that wicketframework.org points currently to sf.net, and I
  can't add subdomains without breaking the current wicketframework.org
  site.
 
  Perhaps we should also host wicketframework.org on that box, and
  redirect traffic from sf.net site to our own box. Then this is
  possible.
 
  Please note that wicketframework.org will probably cease to exist when
  we reach tlp status @apache. http://wicket.apache.org sounds good IMO.
 
  Perhaps the mentors could shine more light on the status of
  wicketframework.org after graduation?
 
  Martijn
 
  On 1/18/07, Frank Bille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   And perhaps get some subdomains for
  
   build.wicketframework.org = http://81.17.46.170/bamboo
   examples.wicketframework.org/1.2 = http://81.17.46.170/wicket12/
   examples.wicketframework.org/1.3 = http://81.17.46.170/wicket13/
  
   and so on.
  
   Frank
  
   On 1/18/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
* Martijn Dashorst:
   
 Why not download the examples yourself and run it locally?
   
A better answer would be to take off the link to
wicket-library.com, as it's not the first time that is it offline.
--
 Jean-Baptiste Quenot
aka  John Banana   Qwerty
http://caraldi.com/jbq/
   
  
  
 
 
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Re: VOTE: include WICKET-218 in 1.2.5

2007-01-19 Thread Igor Vaynberg

+1

-igor

On 1/18/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


include https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-218 in 1.2.5

-igor




Re: Vote: take wicketframework.org off of sf.net servers and onto our own box

2007-01-19 Thread Johan Compagner

yes i have the same questions as igor.

What do we move completely to Apache?

Is it so that when we have moved then only jira an confluence are still
there
for just Wicket-Stuff?

Everything else, so the auto building and auto deploying and serving of the
latest examples
are done then on the apache servers?

What things does apache give us? What rights do we have?

If we keep bamboo and the examples there then i think we should do this:

wicketframework.org - wicket.apache.org
builds.wicketframework.org - ourserver/bamboo
maven.wicketframework.org - ourserver/maven/reposistory (or are we not
doing this, providing snapshots?)
examples.wicketframework.org  - ourserver/examples - pointing to 1.3/2.0
examples

So if this setup is the one we go for then we can move it now and only do
this

wicketframework.org - ourserver/root
builds.wicketframework.org - ourserver/bamboo
maven.wicketframework.org - ourserver/maven/reposistory (or are we not
doing this, providing snapshots?)
examples.wicketframework.org  - ourserver/examples - pointing to 1.3/2.0
examples

then we need to do the above for a few months. (and server our own side)

If we don't use the server for anything except wicket stuf (jira/conf) then
i wouldn't bother doing anything right now.

johan



On 1/18/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Using Apache  hardware seems to be a big deal for a community feel and
 for a legal standpoint (iianm), and /should/ make things easier. If we
 get migraines from dealing with the apache process, then we should get
 more involved in the infra team. Problem is that to be able to do
 that, you need to earn karma, and IMO you won't get karma until you
 help administer stuff.


you mean they will let us host bamboo, our examples, etc with us having
access to that stuff easily? why dont we do that now then? also what is
the
hold up with our new website then? i thought you had trouble doing an
export
or something because of apache confluence permission foobar?

I don't see the need to register another domain name yet. Isn't the
 whole point of the server to have it host all our stuff? Just moving
 wicketframework.org to the servoy box, and add the subdomains is not
 too much I think?


once the domain is transferred to apache will we still be able to have the
subdomains?


 [...]
 The current 1.2.x sites can easily be put on the box. They only
 require a static filesystem. I recon a simple rsync between the two
 servers is all it takes to mirror the current content.


no doubt, and we can update them easily. but if we are going to do that
why
not just do the confluence import thing and the new skin now as well?

-igor



Martijn

 On 1/18/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  we could register wicketstuff.org, host our website there until we are
 ready
  to move it to apache, we can even setup our confluence install there
to
  export our website to apache so we dont have to go through headaches
 
  just dont think of wicketstuff.org as related directly to
  wicket-stuff.sf.net
 
  -igor
 
 
  On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It has been proposed in several threads, so I'd like to make it more
   formal:
  
   currently we host wicketframework.org on the sf.net servers. We can
   move the content of the site to our own box (provided by
   http://servoy.com) and host it there, and redirect traffic from the
   sf.net server to the our new box.
  
   Pro's:
   - wicketframework.org will probably be a lot faster.
   - it opens up builds.wicketframework.org,
 examples.wicketframework.orgetc.
  
   Con's:
   - we'll have to update our (read: I have to update my) build
   infrastructure for deploying the site
   - we'll be fully responsible for hosting our own site
   - the future is clouded for the domain as we are moving towards
   apache infrastructure.
  
   So the vote is:
   [ ] move the domain already, why didn't you do this months ago?
   [ ] keep it as it is, it works now
  
   Martijn
  
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Re: Vote: take wicketframework.org off of sf.net servers and onto our own box

2007-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...Problem is that to be able to do
that, you need to earn karma, and IMO you won't get karma until you
help administer stuff.


Are you aware of the Solaris zones?

See http://www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html - I don't know much
about what you want to run, but with a zone, the project gets its own
virtual Solaris machine, which project members can administrate fairly
freely.

The Cocoon project, for example, runs live demos and a documentation
system there, see http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/ . The performance is
usually very good, although it depends on how other zones behave, of
course.

-Bertrand


Re: About revision 496616: Disable modification watcher in MockWebApplication

2007-01-19 Thread Frank Bille

It's already in trunk. I'm more thinking about backporting the wickettester
change from trunk to 1.3.

But perhaps I will raise a vote to backport 496616 to 1.2.5. But it easy for
users to fix it them selves, by doing what I do on there instance of
WicketTester.

WDYT?

Frank

On 1/19/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Don't forget to port it to trunk please.

TIA,
--
 Jean-Baptiste Quenot
aka  John Banana   Qwerty
http://caraldi.com/jbq/



Re: Fixing ComponentTest in Wicket 1.x

2007-01-19 Thread Johan Compagner

but when to execute that thing?
And what would be the big change? Instead of now RequestCycle.detach()
calling detach() on the RequestTargets
(that are the pages that are used in the current request) What would be
called now and when?

We first need to move the Session.touch(page) command to a much later time
(after the detach) Because Session.touch() pushes the page to the pagemap
and then the httpsession/sessionstore
And then the page already needs to be detached.

johan


On 1/18/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


* Martijn Dashorst:

 I'd  rather see  an extra  step in  our request  processing that
 detaches  all  pages  and   their  child  components  that  have
 participated in  the request  processing, instead of  relying on
 the request targets to do so.

+1
--
 Jean-Baptiste Quenot
aka  John Banana   Qwerty
http://caraldi.com/jbq/



Re: About revision 496616: Disable modification watcher in MockWebApplication

2007-01-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Frank Bille:

 It's already  in trunk. I'm more thinking  about backporting the
 wickettester change from trunk to 1.3.

Oh yes you're right Frank, it was already in trunk, my bad.

It would be  great to backport the  whole WicketTester refactoring
to branch 1.x.  I filed a patch for that: WICKET-147

And while  we're at it:  there's a bug in  MockWebApplication that
initializes application twice, see WICKET-225.

All the best,
-- 
 Jean-Baptiste Quenot
aka  John Banana   Qwerty
http://caraldi.com/jbq/


Re: Vote: take wicketframework.org off of sf.net servers and onto our own box

2007-01-19 Thread Igor Vaynberg

can we get a zone if we are just incubating?

-igor


On 1/19/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...Problem is that to be able to do
 that, you need to earn karma, and IMO you won't get karma until you
 help administer stuff.

Are you aware of the Solaris zones?

See http://www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html - I don't know much
about what you want to run, but with a zone, the project gets its own
virtual Solaris machine, which project members can administrate fairly
freely.

The Cocoon project, for example, runs live demos and a documentation
system there, see http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/ . The performance is
usually very good, although it depends on how other zones behave, of
course.

-Bertrand



Re: Vote: take wicketframework.org off of sf.net servers and onto our own box

2007-01-19 Thread Upayavira

Igor Vaynberg wrote:

can we get a zone if we are just incubating?


At this point, I personally would stick with either Sourceforge or Servoy.

The main issue being that zones aren't intended for use for public 
websites, more for demos, tests, builds, etc, and you cannot map a 
domain to a zone (AFAIK), you just get project.zones.apache.org.


Where we host examples (a very useful and important thing to host), I 
don't think we're quite ready to resolve that issue yet. Therefore, I 
would say go with Sourceforge or Servoy, whichever makes most 
straightforward sense.


Similarly, eventually, the wicketframework.org domain name should be a 
redirect to wicket.apache.org, and ownership of that domain be 
transferred to Apache. However, I don't quite think we're ready for that 
either. We really need to get a release or two under our belt before we 
can approach those issue.


Regards, Upayavira


On 1/19/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 1/18/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...Problem is that to be able to do
 that, you need to earn karma, and IMO you won't get karma until you
 help administer stuff.

Are you aware of the Solaris zones?

See http://www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html - I don't know much
about what you want to run, but with a zone, the project gets its own
virtual Solaris machine, which project members can administrate fairly
freely.

The Cocoon project, for example, runs live demos and a documentation
system there, see http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/ . The performance is
usually very good, although it depends on how other zones behave, of
course.

-Bertrand







Wicket 2.0 Release Update

2007-01-19 Thread Zac Parsons

Forgive me for asking a question that has been asked before but is there an
update on when Wicket 2.0 will be available? 

I saw several responses in the summer and fall of last year saying that a
release would be in a few months but nothing more recent then that. 

I'd like to recommend Wicket for our new project but we must have Java 5
support so I am eagerly awaiting news of it's progress.

Thanks.

-Zac Parsons
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Re: Wicket 2.0 Release Update

2007-01-19 Thread Eelco Hillenius

Not really. Lots of stuff came in between. Imo the 2.0 is reasonably
stable and many of it's features got backported to 1.3, making both
1.3 and interesting enough alternative and giving the new features of
2.0 the change to get tested (there are at least a couple of
production systems written on 1.3).

You don't need Wicket 2.0 for Java 5 support, unless you care for
generified models. Personally, I think the parent change (provide a
parent in the constructor and the component is added to the tree
rather than calling add on the parent) is the greatest feature, but
certainly not something people can't do without.

We are *hoping* (not a promise) to get the first version of 1.3 out
this month still. 2.0's first beta might be done in february if 1.3
worked out well.

Eelco


On 1/19/07, Zac Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Forgive me for asking a question that has been asked before but is there an
update on when Wicket 2.0 will be available?

I saw several responses in the summer and fall of last year saying that a
release would be in a few months but nothing more recent then that.

I'd like to recommend Wicket for our new project but we must have Java 5
support so I am eagerly awaiting news of it's progress.

Thanks.

-Zac Parsons
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