Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Because I want the form to be updatet when something new is selected, should I
do this another way?
Regards Nino
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius
Sent: 13. januar 2007 20:45
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Those dropdowns should be updated without troubles. Why do you need
the wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications there? Did you try removing
the overrides of these methods? As far as I can see you're not doing
anything useful with them.
Eelco
On 1/12/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To my presentation im doing both a jsp version and a wicket version of a
very small applikation (might just be a form or two separate pages with
forms), btw would it be an idea to put the presentation with examples up
somewhere perhaps the wiki (when im done with it?)?
However upon doing this I've stumbled into something I find odd, in the
below code the label called model are not updatet when it's model are
changed, I got the same problem with the dropdown, I fixed that by calling
the dropdown.modelchanged() method. But is it really necessary to call
modelchanged? I saw the ajax example which is almost identical to this does
not call modelchanged.
public class IndexPage extends WebPage {
public IndexPage() {
FormModel
formModel = new FormModel();
final
PropertyModel carModel = new PropertyModel(formModel, carModel);
final
PropertyModel carBrand = new PropertyModel(formModel, carBrand);
IModel
carsFromBrand = new AbstractReadOnlyModel() {
public Object getObject(Component arg0) {
String selected = (String)
carBrand.getObject(null);
if (selected != null) {
return Offline.getCarsFromBrand(selected);
}
return Collections.EMPTY_LIST;
}
};
add(new
Label(brand, carBrand));
add(new
Label(model, carModel));
Form form = new
Form(theform);
add(form);
final
DropDownChoice ddcCarModel = new DropDownChoice(carmodel,
carModel, carsFromBrand) {
protected boolean
wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
};
DropDownChoice
ddcCarbrand = new DropDownChoice(carbrand, carBrand,
Offline.getCarBrands()) {
protected boolean
wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
protected void onSelectionChanged(Object arg0) {
// TODO Auto-generated method
stub
super.onSelectionChanged(arg0);
ddcCarModel.modelChanged();
}
};
form.add(ddcCarbrand);
form.add(ddcCarModel);
}
}
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of Nino Wael
Sent: 4. januar 2007 14:16
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first
teaser I have about ten minutes.
I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and
borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept.
Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the
tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be
selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ
Which features should I show?
The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages.
Regards Nino
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Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Those dropdowns should be updated without troubles. Why do you need
the wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications there? Did you try removing
the overrides of these methods? As far as I can see you're not doing
anything useful with them.
Eelco
On 1/12/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To my presentation im doing both a jsp version and a wicket version of a
very small applikation (might just be a form or two separate pages with
forms), btw would it be an idea to put the presentation with examples up
somewhere perhaps the wiki (when im done with it?)?
However upon doing this I've stumbled into something I find odd, in the
below code the label called model are not updatet when it's model are
changed, I got the same problem with the dropdown, I fixed that by calling
the dropdown.modelchanged() method. But is it really necessary to call
modelchanged? I saw the ajax example which is almost identical to this does
not call modelchanged.
public class IndexPage extends WebPage {
public IndexPage() {
FormModel
formModel = new FormModel();
final
PropertyModel carModel = new PropertyModel(formModel, carModel);
final
PropertyModel carBrand = new PropertyModel(formModel, carBrand);
IModel
carsFromBrand = new AbstractReadOnlyModel() {
public Object getObject(Component arg0) {
String selected = (String)
carBrand.getObject(null);
if (selected != null) {
return Offline.getCarsFromBrand(selected);
}
return Collections.EMPTY_LIST;
}
};
add(new
Label(brand, carBrand));
add(new
Label(model, carModel));
Form form = new
Form(theform);
add(form);
final
DropDownChoice ddcCarModel = new DropDownChoice(carmodel,
carModel, carsFromBrand) {
protected boolean
wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
};
DropDownChoice
ddcCarbrand = new DropDownChoice(carbrand, carBrand,
Offline.getCarBrands()) {
protected boolean
wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
protected void onSelectionChanged(Object arg0) {
// TODO Auto-generated method
stub
super.onSelectionChanged(arg0);
ddcCarModel.modelChanged();
}
};
form.add(ddcCarbrand);
form.add(ddcCarModel);
}
}
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of Nino Wael
Sent: 4. januar 2007 14:16
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first
teaser I have about ten minutes.
I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and
borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept.
Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the
tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be
selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ
Which features should I show?
The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages.
Regards Nino
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Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
To my presentation im doing both a jsp version and a wicket version of a very
small applikation (might just be a form or two separate pages with forms), btw
would it be an idea to put the presentation with examples up somewhere perhaps
the wiki (when im done with it?)?
However upon doing this I've stumbled into something I find odd, in the below
code the label called model are not updatet when it's model are changed, I got
the same problem with the dropdown, I fixed that by calling the
dropdown.modelchanged() method. But is it really necessary to call
modelchanged? I saw the ajax example which is almost identical to this does not
call modelchanged.
public class IndexPage extends WebPage {
public IndexPage() {
FormModel formModel = new
FormModel();
final PropertyModel carModel = new
PropertyModel(formModel, carModel);
final PropertyModel carBrand = new
PropertyModel(formModel, carBrand);
IModel carsFromBrand = new
AbstractReadOnlyModel() {
public Object
getObject(Component arg0) {
String selected = (String) carBrand.getObject(null);
if (selected != null) {
return Offline.getCarsFromBrand(selected);
}
return Collections.EMPTY_LIST;
}
};
add(new Label(brand, carBrand));
add(new Label(model, carModel));
Form form = new Form(theform);
add(form);
final DropDownChoice ddcCarModel =
new DropDownChoice(carmodel,
carModel, carsFromBrand) {
protected
boolean wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
};
DropDownChoice ddcCarbrand = new
DropDownChoice(carbrand, carBrand,
Offline.getCarBrands()) {
protected
boolean wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
protected void
onSelectionChanged(Object arg0) {
// TODO Auto-generated method stub
super.onSelectionChanged(arg0);
ddcCarModel.modelChanged();
}
};
form.add(ddcCarbrand);
form.add(ddcCarModel);
}
}
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino Wael
Sent: 4. januar 2007 14:16
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first
teaser I have about ten minutes.
I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and
borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept.
Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious
tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess
that part will be a big eye opener for some of them:-)
Which features should I show?
The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Oeh btw this is wicket 1.2.3
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino Wael
Sent: 12. januar 2007 13:27
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
To my presentation im doing both a jsp version and a wicket version of a very
small applikation (might just be a form or two separate pages with forms), btw
would it be an idea to put the presentation with examples up somewhere perhaps
the wiki (when im done with it?)?
However upon doing this I've stumbled into something I find odd, in the below
code the label called model are not updatet when it's model are changed, I got
the same problem with the dropdown, I fixed that by calling the
dropdown.modelchanged() method. But is it really necessary to call
modelchanged? I saw the ajax example which is almost identical to this does not
call modelchanged.
public class IndexPage extends WebPage {
public IndexPage() {
FormModel formModel = new
FormModel();
final PropertyModel carModel = new
PropertyModel(formModel, carModel);
final PropertyModel carBrand = new
PropertyModel(formModel, carBrand);
IModel carsFromBrand = new
AbstractReadOnlyModel() {
public Object
getObject(Component arg0) {
String selected = (String) carBrand.getObject(null);
if (selected != null) {
return Offline.getCarsFromBrand(selected);
}
return Collections.EMPTY_LIST;
}
};
add(new Label(brand, carBrand));
add(new Label(model, carModel));
Form form = new Form(theform);
add(form);
final DropDownChoice ddcCarModel =
new DropDownChoice(carmodel,
carModel, carsFromBrand) {
protected
boolean wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
};
DropDownChoice ddcCarbrand = new
DropDownChoice(carbrand, carBrand,
Offline.getCarBrands()) {
protected
boolean wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications() {
return true;
}
protected void
onSelectionChanged(Object arg0) {
// TODO Auto-generated method stub
super.onSelectionChanged(arg0);
ddcCarModel.modelChanged();
}
};
form.add(ddcCarbrand);
form.add(ddcCarModel);
}
}
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino Wael
Sent: 4. januar 2007 14:16
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first
teaser I have about ten minutes.
I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and
borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept.
Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Where in wicket you just write your markupfile .html and your java file and thats it... Regards Nino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino Wael Sent: 5. januar 2007 08:42 To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation Sure Here I was thinking against wicket versus JSP/servlets, in those you have to print each line of html you want displayed at the browser.. -Nino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santucho Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:43 AM To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html Can you explain this? - Gustavo. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of them:-) Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
you could show a component wich holds the suckerfish CSS example (HTML, JS + CSS markup + Java Logic) and then show how easy it is to put this into any existing HTML file / template at any position you like... or show how neat a self-calling panel component is to e.g: create a tree structure in markup by nesting itself. or a download link using the usualylink + onClick to show how secure it is or show the possibility to have 100% secure URLs using encrypted URL... or... well, i can imagine dozens of things that are hard/ impossible with struts / jsp and are done within minutes in wicket by just using the power of java itself Regards _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Nino Wael Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 14:16 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of them:-) Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
It would be nice to have a small presentation entitled The Wicket top ten features with real life examples. We could define a list and build a wiki page, slides, etc. The examples you mentioned are great. On 1/4/07, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you could show a component wich holds the suckerfish CSS example (HTML, JS + CSS markup + Java Logic) and then show how easy it is to put this into any existing HTML file / template at any position you like... or show how neat a self-calling panel component is to e.g: create a tree structure in markup by nesting itself. or a download link using the usualylink + onClick to show how secure it is or show the possibility to have 100% secure URLs using encrypted URL... or... well, i can imagine dozens of things that are hard/ impossible with struts / jsp and are done within minutes in wicket by just using the power of java itself Regards -- *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Nino Wael *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 14:16 *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] wicket presentation Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
I think the best selling point for wicket to be shown on a 10 minute presentation (remember it is really quick 10 minutes!) is markup inheritance, API extensibility (Like extending the Link or Label class), Model and POJO + HTML completely separated. With that, I think you are complete for the time you have. My 2 cents. Marc On 1/4/07, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you could show a component wich holds the suckerfish CSS example (HTML, JS + CSS markup + Java Logic) and then show how easy it is to put this into any existing HTML file / template at any position you like... or show how neat a self-calling panel component is to e.g: create a tree structure in markup by nesting itself. or a download link using the usualylink + onClick to show how secure it is or show the possibility to have 100% secure URLs using encrypted URL... or... well, i can imagine dozens of things that are hard/ impossible with struts / jsp and are done within minutes in wicket by just using the power of java itself Regards -- *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Nino Wael *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 14:16 *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] wicket presentation Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
he wrote: The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages so you cant show them things with API extensibility or MVC in minutes and expect them to understand it... its IMHO better to show a easy packaged component example (as this comes closes to the old include paradigma) and how easy it fits together - especially if its sth. thats difficult to do in JSP (like suckerfish) _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marc-Andre Houle Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 16:56 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation I think the best selling point for wicket to be shown on a 10 minute presentation (remember it is really quick 10 minutes!) is markup inheritance, API extensibility (Like extending the Link or Label class), Model and POJO + HTML completely separated. With that, I think you are complete for the time you have. My 2 cents. Marc On 1/4/07, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you could show a component wich holds the suckerfish CSS example (HTML, JS + CSS markup + Java Logic) and then show how easy it is to put this into any existing HTML file / template at any position you like... or show how neat a self-calling panel component is to e.g: create a tree structure in markup by nesting itself. or a download link using the usualylink + onClick to show how secure it is or show the possibility to have 100% secure URLs using encrypted URL... or... well, i can imagine dozens of things that are hard/ impossible with struts / jsp and are done within minutes in wicket by just using the power of java itself Regards _ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Nino Wael Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 14:16 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of them:-) Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV p=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Well, comparing to struts/jsp/... solutions the best features would be imho : 1- Moving away from Request/Response 2- Full power of OO in the presentation layer 3- Real Reusable Components / Panels / Markups / Anything (!) 4- Separation of Concerns (Markup for layout and presentation, Java for logic) 5- Power of IModels/Property Models/Compound Models (though a bit hard to explain) 6- Neat easy AJAX support Iman On 1/4/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Well, comparing to struts/jsp/... solutions the best features would be imho : 1- Moving away from Request/Response 2- Full power of OO in the presentation layer 3- Real Reusable Components / Panels / Markups / Anything (!) 4- Separation of Concerns (Markup for layout and presentation, Java for logic) 5- Power of IModels/Property Models/Compound Models (though a bit hard to explain) 6- Neat easy AJAX support Iman On 1/4/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Sorry about the dual post, back button problem. Unfortunately gmail isn't developed with wicket ;-) On 1/4/07, Iman Rahmatizadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, comparing to struts/jsp/... solutions the best features would be imho : 1- Moving away from Request/Response 2- Full power of OO in the presentation layer 3- Real Reusable Components / Panels / Markups / Anything (!) 4- Separation of Concerns (Markup for layout and presentation, Java for logic) 5- Power of IModels/Property Models/Compound Models (though a bit hard to explain) 6- Neat easy AJAX support Iman On 1/4/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
I recently completed a similar presentation (however it was longer than 10 minutes). In my opinion Wicket's main selling point to development teams is reusability and maintenance. Features like OO component model, markup inheritance, and html like templates lead to better reusability and easier maintenance. I would create a simple webpage that consists of several components that show off some customization to a built in Wicket feature, perhaps markup inheritance to get a border effect, and an ajax dialog or so. Then I would demo the application from a browser and ask how long it would take to build something similar in struts when they answer several days etc show them the Wicket code. Its hard to compete with a solution that produces such clean code with very little effort like Wicket... play that angle. Ryan On 1/4/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Our folk were impressed when I took a panel that was in a modal window and add()-ed to a tab -- blammo I had the content displaying in both places. Thanks to a visitor it was also being updated as a target of the appropriate ajax request. I also got positive feedback when I showed two versions of our application (corporate call center concierge desks at hotels) and showed how subclasses of the same abstract component were handling behavior differences we wanted in the two applications. Scott On 1/4/07, Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently completed a similar presentation (however it was longer than 10 minutes). In my opinion Wicket's main selling point to development teams is reusability and maintenance. Features like OO component model, markup inheritance, and html like templates lead to better reusability and easier maintenance. I would create a simple webpage that consists of several components that show off some customization to a built in Wicket feature, perhaps markup inheritance to get a border effect, and an ajax dialog or so. Then I would demo the application from a browser and ask how long it would take to build something similar in struts when they answer several days etc show them the Wicket code. Its hard to compete with a solution that produces such clean code with very little effort like Wicket... play that angle. Ryan On 1/4/07, Nino Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi im doing a wicket presentation for our consultants team, on this first teaser I have about ten minutes. I plan to talk something about markup inheritance(the stuff with panels and borders, which are very nice), and the POJO concept. Also wickets model concept and that you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html and setting the correct radio to be selected. I guess that part will be a big eye opener for some of themJ Which features should I show? The crowd will maximum have knowledge of struts or simple jsp pages. Regards Nino - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Scott Swank reformed mathematician - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
you don’t have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html Can you explain this? - Gustavo. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation
Sure Here I was thinking against wicket versus JSP/servlets, in those you have to print each line of html you want displayed at the browser.. -Nino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gustavo Santucho Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:43 AM To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] wicket presentation you don't have to think about the tedious tasks like printing html Can you explain this? - Gustavo. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
