Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Yohann Thomas]

This is amazing news Haidar..
Congratulations to the Santali language community.. :)

Is there a mailing list for the community?? I need to add it to the WMIN
site, in the section of the Indic language wiki projects..

http://wiki.wikimedia.in/List_of_Indian_language_wiki_projects

Regards,
Yohann



On Wed 8 Aug, 2018, 20:19 Ali Haidar Khan,  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language Wikipedia (
> https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2, 2018
> and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own alphabet,
> Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
> a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken by
> around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and Nepal).
>
> This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible because of
> the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh, India
> and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment and
> are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik Soren, a
> dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very active
> Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab Mustafa,
> President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active steward
> and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
> Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the effort in
> India.
>
> It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali Language
> Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February, 2017. Back
> in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and workshop
> with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of Bangladesh with
> the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that process
> slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of the
> Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by Wikimedia
> Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017. Santali
> Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program through
> online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for Santali
> Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with Odia
> Wikimedians User Group.
>
> After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali Wikipedia site
> was launched on August 2, 2018.
>
> Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ali Haidar Khan
>
> Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

[James Heilman]

Commenting in my personal capacity, on English Wikipedia we have this
community curated list off paid editing companies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PAIDLIST

Not sure if the foundation keeps an internal list. Some of the companies
regularly change the names they are operating under. An exhaustive list
will be difficult as most companies involved in this type of work try to
operate covertly.

James

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:14 PM effe iets anders 
wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, Greg.
>
> As it proves to be quite hard to filter out this kind of companies, it must
> be even harder for affiliates that don't have the WMF infrastructure at
> hand. I can imagine there exists some kind of 'blacklist' of companies that
> the WMF doesn't want to work with for this kind of reasons. Does the WMF
> share that list (proactively or passively) with affiliates to avoid that
> they unknowingly end up hiring a company with undesired other activities
> such as in this case?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 7:20 PM Gregory Varnum 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you to everyone that has provided thoughtful and constructive input
> > on this discussion, and to the volunteers who are investigating the
> > possible policy violations. We have some additional information on this
> > vendor relationship and on steps being taken that we believe will be
> > helpful to this discussion.
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation entered into a short-term contract with Go Fish
> > Digital to conduct a search engine optimization (SEO) audit on Wikipedia.
> > They were contracted to provide information needed by the Audiences
> > department to improve how our sites communicate with search engines and
> > services which provide data to devices like artificial intelligence (AI)
> > assistants. Overall, SEO performance is a strength of our projects, but
> we
> > were able to identify areas for improvement, and the audit was helpful
> for
> > Audiences to more effectively focus their efforts. During discussions
> about
> > Wikimedia values and activities that were held in selecting the vendor,
> > they did not disclose anything which raised suspicion, and we failed to
> > identify this specific concern and question them about it more.
> >
> > The Foundation's Legal department received the proposal after it had been
> > approved by Audiences and drafted a contract for this agreement following
> > standard procedures. This included a privacy review, which resulted in
> the
> > inclusion of extra privacy and security protections in the contract.
> Their
> > activities did not involve reputation management services, and they did
> not
> > request or receive access to any Wikimedia user data. The contract
> > concluded last month.
> >
> > As we are now aware of the vendor's possible violations and feel they
> > should have shared this information with us during discussions, we will
> not
> > be pursuing any future working relationship with Go Fish Digital and will
> > be requesting that they honor our contractual agreement by not discussing
> > their past relationship with us for promotional purposes. Additionally,
> we
> > are reviewing the way that this vendor was selected in an effort to see
> if
> > we can identify what led to this issue and better identify these types of
> > concerns when identifying future vendors and executing agreements with
> > them. Finally, as they regularly do, our Trust and Safety team in
> Community
> > Engagement are working with the functionaries investigating the possible
> > policy violations.
> >
> > Again, we appreciate the attention provided to this by the functionaries
> > and others who raised these concerns. We agree that the Foundation should
> > avoid working with vendors who violate our policies, and hope the
> > discussion around this will help reduce the chances of this happening in
> > the future.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > -greg
> >
> > ---
> > Gregory Varnum
> > Communications Strategist
> > Wikimedia Foundation 
> > gvar...@wikimedia.org
> > Pronouns: He/Him/His
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 27, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Mario Gómez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have gathered more evidence and opened a sockpuppet investigation,
> > > omitting any parts involving personal data:
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BurritoSlayer
> > >
> > > Personal data sent to functionaries-en@ is still relevant to verify
> some
> > > details, but I think that it is not crucial anymore to prove Go Fish
> > > Digital ongoing and undisclosed paid editing.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Mario Gómez 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I will not post actual evidence to this mailing list. My notes as of
> > >> Sunday are already sent to functionaries and I'm sure they will act on
> > it
> > >> themselves. As I collect more evidence, I might open a sockpuppet
> > >> investigation on English Wikipedia anyway if there is enough of it to
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

[mathieu lovato stumpf guntz]

Hello,

Following a discussion on a Wikisource Telegram group, I searched a bit 
about mastodon and Wikimedia, and I found back this current thread[1] as 
well as the following


- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198363
  - pointing to 
https://mastodon.technology/@danielhglus/100278498498332671
    - evoking a conversation on WP:VPIL, that is actually (most likely) 
refering to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)/Archive_25#Mastodon_instance?

- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_networking

I was initially looking for something able to do at least the same as 
Telegram groups, with at least the same cross-devices ease of use. With 
what I played so far on Mastodon, I don't think it would fulfill the 
same feature set as Telegram, but I was already suggested a few other 
solution to further this inquiry:


- Signal https://signal.org/ 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software) 

- Ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(software) 

- Wire https://wire.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_(software) 


- Tox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_%28protocol%29
- Matrix http://matrix.org/ 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(communication_protocol) 



My experience with the two former don't make feel like they could be 
used for the same purpose as Telegram. I still have to check the three 
later, but please be bold with any feedback and complementary ideas you 
might have on this topic.


Although Mastodon doesn't seem to be what I was looking for at start, I 
do think it would be great to launch a Wikimedia instance and completely 
in phase with the aim of becoming an essential infrastructure of the 
ecosystem of free knowledge. So let me know if I can help in any way on 
this regard. :)


Cheers.


[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-April/089977.html


Le 11/04/2018 à 11:17, Quim Gil a écrit :

(These are personal opinions based on my own personal interest in free and
volunteer-driven social networks, not an opinion as a WMF member.)

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu 
wrote:


Hi,

I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not
abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting
anonymity, free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many. The Diaspora*
Project[1] is not moving forward very fast and the Mastodon[2] is more a
microblogging service rather than a social network service.


Can it be that the difference between "microblogging service" and "social
network" might be too subtle and subjective to be noticed by the majority
of their users? And for the problem you are presenting here?


Would it make sense for Wikimedia movement to build its own social network

service?


Depends on what you mean by "build". If you mean create the software for a
new social network service, I don't think it makes sense. Providing support
and development of multilingual wiki projects
 to collect and develop
educational content to empower and engage people around the world is
already a daunting task in terms of software development, and there is so
much to do.

If you mean to run the software developed by someone else, sure, why not
experimenting. Thanks to free software licenses anyone can try, and thanks
to Wikimedia trademarks licenses I am sure a decent solution could be found
by whoever wants to run this experiment.


In the "2017 Movement strategy” we state: “By 2030, Wikimedia will become

the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge”. If we
consider discussions and information shared on social network services to
be “knowledge”, I think we should have a role in here too.


With some caveats and observations, I agree on the principle, just not on
the implication that this means we need to create a free social network for
us from scratch, starting with a first line of code. If we consider social
networks useful, and free social networks the right and consistent thing to
use in an ecosystem of free knowledge, then the first step can be as simple
as opening a Mastodon instance. Dozens (hundreds) of volunteers (including
amateur sysadmins) are doing just that without much discussion, just
scratching their own itch, or for fun, or to learn, or to experiment...


We have 33 million registered users and fulfil all the requirements of

being a “fair service”. A minimum list of features to make Wikimedia Social
would be:

(1) Status updates
(2) Comments
(3) Likes


This is provided by Mastodon, GNUSocial, etc today. They look like minimum
features for a social network indeed.



(4)Groups


Mmm can you specify your use cases here? There is a chance, that the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

[effe iets anders]

Thanks for sharing, Greg.

As it proves to be quite hard to filter out this kind of companies, it must
be even harder for affiliates that don't have the WMF infrastructure at
hand. I can imagine there exists some kind of 'blacklist' of companies that
the WMF doesn't want to work with for this kind of reasons. Does the WMF
share that list (proactively or passively) with affiliates to avoid that
they unknowingly end up hiring a company with undesired other activities
such as in this case?

Best,
Lodewijk

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 7:20 PM Gregory Varnum 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you to everyone that has provided thoughtful and constructive input
> on this discussion, and to the volunteers who are investigating the
> possible policy violations. We have some additional information on this
> vendor relationship and on steps being taken that we believe will be
> helpful to this discussion.
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation entered into a short-term contract with Go Fish
> Digital to conduct a search engine optimization (SEO) audit on Wikipedia.
> They were contracted to provide information needed by the Audiences
> department to improve how our sites communicate with search engines and
> services which provide data to devices like artificial intelligence (AI)
> assistants. Overall, SEO performance is a strength of our projects, but we
> were able to identify areas for improvement, and the audit was helpful for
> Audiences to more effectively focus their efforts. During discussions about
> Wikimedia values and activities that were held in selecting the vendor,
> they did not disclose anything which raised suspicion, and we failed to
> identify this specific concern and question them about it more.
>
> The Foundation's Legal department received the proposal after it had been
> approved by Audiences and drafted a contract for this agreement following
> standard procedures. This included a privacy review, which resulted in the
> inclusion of extra privacy and security protections in the contract. Their
> activities did not involve reputation management services, and they did not
> request or receive access to any Wikimedia user data. The contract
> concluded last month.
>
> As we are now aware of the vendor's possible violations and feel they
> should have shared this information with us during discussions, we will not
> be pursuing any future working relationship with Go Fish Digital and will
> be requesting that they honor our contractual agreement by not discussing
> their past relationship with us for promotional purposes. Additionally, we
> are reviewing the way that this vendor was selected in an effort to see if
> we can identify what led to this issue and better identify these types of
> concerns when identifying future vendors and executing agreements with
> them. Finally, as they regularly do, our Trust and Safety team in Community
> Engagement are working with the functionaries investigating the possible
> policy violations.
>
> Again, we appreciate the attention provided to this by the functionaries
> and others who raised these concerns. We agree that the Foundation should
> avoid working with vendors who violate our policies, and hope the
> discussion around this will help reduce the chances of this happening in
> the future.
>
> Thank you,
> -greg
>
> ---
> Gregory Varnum
> Communications Strategist
> Wikimedia Foundation 
> gvar...@wikimedia.org
> Pronouns: He/Him/His
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Mario Gómez 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have gathered more evidence and opened a sockpuppet investigation,
> > omitting any parts involving personal data:
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BurritoSlayer
> >
> > Personal data sent to functionaries-en@ is still relevant to verify some
> > details, but I think that it is not crucial anymore to prove Go Fish
> > Digital ongoing and undisclosed paid editing.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Mario Gómez 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I will not post actual evidence to this mailing list. My notes as of
> >> Sunday are already sent to functionaries and I'm sure they will act on
> it
> >> themselves. As I collect more evidence, I might open a sockpuppet
> >> investigation on English Wikipedia anyway if there is enough of it to
> >> continue even without personal data, which is just a small part.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:29 AM,  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Without getting into whether an outing policy exists/applies here,
> please
> >>> bear in mind that if redaction is required, it is rather difficult to
> do
> >>> it
> >>> on a mailing list, especially a mailman mailing list like this one.
> >>>
> >>> i.e. Please avoid posting something here which may need redaction.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 16:00 Isaac Olatunde 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi Mario,
> 
>  I don't think it will be considered harassment if the information is
> >>> posted
>  here. I believe the WP:OUTING 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

[Andy Mabbett]

"On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 00:55, MZMcBride  wrote:

> It appears that Go Fish Digital has whitewashed its own site, removing
> "Wikipedia" from its list of "primary platforms that define your online
> reputation" at .

But still, on:

   https://gofishdigital.com/create-google-knowledge-panel/

   "How do I get a brand KP?

   "So, what should you do to get a brand KP created for your
organization?  We recommend following these steps:

   "Find someone to create your Wikipedia page or learn about
the Wikipedia ecosystem and create it yourself..."

and on:

   https://gofishdigital.com/online-reputation-management-expert/

   "From Autocomplete to Search Results, Yelp to Wikipedia, there
is an endless list of websites where you must pro-actively protect,
and reactively defend to ensure that your brand is not adversely
impacted by negative content."

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. working with Go Fish Digital, a company that whitewashes Wikipedia

[MZMcBride]

Gregory Varnum wrote:
>The Wikimedia Foundation entered into a short-term contract with Go Fish
>Digital to conduct a search engine optimization (SEO) audit on Wikipedia.
>They were contracted to provide information needed by the Audiences
>department to improve how our sites communicate with search engines and
>services which provide data to devices like artificial intelligence (AI)
>assistants. Overall, SEO performance is a strength of our projects, but
>we were able to identify areas for improvement, and the audit was helpful
>for Audiences to more effectively focus their efforts. During discussions
>about Wikimedia values and activities that were held in selecting the
>vendor, they did not disclose anything which raised suspicion, and we
>failed to identify this specific concern and question them about it more.

This is particularly bizarre since Google has, for years, special-cased
its handling of Wikimedia wikis. As far as I know, the standard Googlebot
crawler is not used for Wikimedia wikis, so it's very strange that a
standard "search engine optimization" company would be hired. Go Fish
Digital's online reputation management work is very prominently featured
on its Web site (gofishdigital.com), so I'm curious how the most basic
check by someone in the Audiences or Legal departments missed this.

>The Foundation's Legal department received the proposal after it had been
>approved by Audiences and drafted a contract for this agreement following
>standard procedures. This included a privacy review, which resulted in
>the inclusion of extra privacy and security protections in the contract.
>Their activities did not involve reputation management services, and they
>did not request or receive access to any Wikimedia user data. The
>contract concluded last month.

Will anyone from the Audiences or Legal departments be commenting on this
incident? Will anyone be outlining what steps will be taken to prevent a
repeat of this incident?

It appears that Go Fish Digital has whitewashed its own site, removing
"Wikipedia" from its list of "primary platforms that define your online
reputation" at .

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Congratulations Santali community. Thanks to Wikimedia Bangladesh and Odia
Wikimedians User Group for the all the support.

West Bengal Wikimedians User Group will be happy to work together in future
to grow Santali Wikimedia community in the state of West Bengal.

Looking forward,
Bodhisattwa

On 8 Aug 2018 11:31 pm, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:

Amazing news. Congratulations and best wishes.

Thanks
Tito Dutta
Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
me over email or phone call.


On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 23:01, Jean-Philippe Béland 
wrote:


> Congratulations and thank you for sharing your experience!
>
> JP
> User:Amqui
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
> psubhash...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Thank you Haidar for sharing in details about the amazing support that
> > Wikimedia Bangladesh has provided to the community there. Kudos to the
> > Santali community for this achievement and all the best for their
> > activities. And Odia Wikimedians User Group will continue to work with
> them
> > more in the future.
> >
> > Subhashish
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
> > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and
organization
> > can
> > > take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!
> > >
> > > בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
> > > tonmoy...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language
> > Wikipedia
> > > (
> > > > https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2,
> > 2018
> > > > and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> > > > maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own
> > alphabet,
> > > > Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali
is
> > > > a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken
> by
> > > > around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and
> Nepal).
> > > >
> > > > This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible
> because
> > > of
> > > > the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh,
> > India
> > > > and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> > > > congratulates the Santali Language Community for their
accomplishment
> > and
> > > > are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik
> Soren, a
> > > > dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very
> > active
> > > > Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> > > > instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab
> > Mustafa,
> > > > President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active
> > steward
> > > > and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort
in
> > > > Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the
> effort
> > in
> > > > India.
> > > >
> > > > It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali
> Language
> > > > Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February,
> 2017.
> > > Back
> > > > in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and
> workshop
> > > > with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of
> Bangladesh
> > > with
> > > > the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that
> > process
> > > > slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia
> > Bangladesh
> > > > organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> > > > Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of
> > the
> > > > Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017.
> > Santali
> > > > Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program
> > through
> > > > online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for
> > > Santali
> > > > Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with
> > Odia
> > > > Wikimedians User Group.
> > > >
> > > > After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> > > > Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali
> Wikipedia
> > > site
> > > > was launched on August 2, 2018.
> > > >
> > > > Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Ali Haidar Khan
> > > >
> > > > Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] fallout from 2018 Wikimedian of the Year announcement

[Andy Mabbett]

On 7 August 2018 at 21:55, Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin
 wrote:

> This is a request for your input and possible ideas (if any) regarding my
> management of the fallout from Jimmy's announcing myself as a 2018
> Wikimedian of the Year.

Congratulations on your award!

> I would be grateful, if you can advise me on how to properly steer the 
> enthusiasm of
> behalf of regional government, mass-media, NGOs, etc. which have just 
> discovered
> about the possibility of participation in Wikimedia movement

There are plenty of possible answers; but to start with I suggest you
make contact with the people in the "Central Eastern European
Wikimedia Community" network:

   https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe

> & also engaging all Tatars globally (3/4 outside of Tatarstan, 1/5 outside of 
> Russia).

For tips on working with a diaspora community, you might talk to
Susanna Mkrtchyan and her colleagues at Wikimedia Armenia.

As you're working in the Tatar language, the "Celtic Knot" conference,
for Wikipedias in smaller languages, may be of interest. You just
missed the 2018 event, but one is proposed for 2019.

Do post here again, if you have other, more specific, questions.

Good luck in your endeavours,

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Johan Jönsson]

 On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Ali Haidar Khan 
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language Wikipedia (
> https://sat.wikipedia.org).


Lovely to see.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Tito Dutta]

Amazing news. Congratulations and best wishes.

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On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 23:01, Jean-Philippe Béland 
wrote:

> Congratulations and thank you for sharing your experience!
>
> JP
> User:Amqui
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
> psubhash...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Thank you Haidar for sharing in details about the amazing support that
> > Wikimedia Bangladesh has provided to the community there. Kudos to the
> > Santali community for this achievement and all the best for their
> > activities. And Odia Wikimedians User Group will continue to work with
> them
> > more in the future.
> >
> > Subhashish
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
> > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and organization
> > can
> > > take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!
> > >
> > > בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
> > > tonmoy...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language
> > Wikipedia
> > > (
> > > > https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2,
> > 2018
> > > > and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> > > > maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own
> > alphabet,
> > > > Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
> > > > a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken
> by
> > > > around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and
> Nepal).
> > > >
> > > > This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible
> because
> > > of
> > > > the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh,
> > India
> > > > and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> > > > congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment
> > and
> > > > are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik
> Soren, a
> > > > dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very
> > active
> > > > Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> > > > instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab
> > Mustafa,
> > > > President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active
> > steward
> > > > and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
> > > > Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the
> effort
> > in
> > > > India.
> > > >
> > > > It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali
> Language
> > > > Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February,
> 2017.
> > > Back
> > > > in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and
> workshop
> > > > with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of
> Bangladesh
> > > with
> > > > the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that
> > process
> > > > slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia
> > Bangladesh
> > > > organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> > > > Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of
> > the
> > > > Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017.
> > Santali
> > > > Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program
> > through
> > > > online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for
> > > Santali
> > > > Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with
> > Odia
> > > > Wikimedians User Group.
> > > >
> > > > After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> > > > Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali
> Wikipedia
> > > site
> > > > was launched on August 2, 2018.
> > > >
> > > > Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Ali Haidar Khan
> > > >
> > > > Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> > > > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Jean-Philippe Béland]

Congratulations and thank you for sharing your experience!

JP
User:Amqui


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi  wrote:

> Thank you Haidar for sharing in details about the amazing support that
> Wikimedia Bangladesh has provided to the community there. Kudos to the
> Santali community for this achievement and all the best for their
> activities. And Odia Wikimedians User Group will continue to work with them
> more in the future.
>
> Subhashish
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> wrote:
>
> > This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and organization
> can
> > take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!
> >
> > בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
> > tonmoy...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language
> Wikipedia
> > (
> > > https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2,
> 2018
> > > and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> > > maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own
> alphabet,
> > > Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
> > > a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken by
> > > around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and Nepal).
> > >
> > > This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible because
> > of
> > > the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh,
> India
> > > and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> > > congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment
> and
> > > are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik Soren, a
> > > dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very
> active
> > > Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> > > instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab
> Mustafa,
> > > President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active
> steward
> > > and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
> > > Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the effort
> in
> > > India.
> > >
> > > It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali Language
> > > Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February, 2017.
> > Back
> > > in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and workshop
> > > with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of Bangladesh
> > with
> > > the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that
> process
> > > slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia
> Bangladesh
> > > organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> > > Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of
> the
> > > Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by
> > Wikimedia
> > > Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017.
> Santali
> > > Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program
> through
> > > online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for
> > Santali
> > > Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with
> Odia
> > > Wikimedians User Group.
> > >
> > > After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> > > Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali Wikipedia
> > site
> > > was launched on August 2, 2018.
> > >
> > > Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Ali Haidar Khan
> > >
> > > Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> > > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Subhashish Panigrahi]

Thank you Haidar for sharing in details about the amazing support that
Wikimedia Bangladesh has provided to the community there. Kudos to the
Santali community for this achievement and all the best for their
activities. And Odia Wikimedians User Group will continue to work with them
more in the future.

Subhashish


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:27 PM Amir E. Aharoni 
wrote:

> This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and organization can
> take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!
>
> בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
> tonmoy...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language Wikipedia
> (
> > https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2, 2018
> > and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> > maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own alphabet,
> > Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
> > a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken by
> > around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and Nepal).
> >
> > This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible because
> of
> > the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh, India
> > and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> > congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment and
> > are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik Soren, a
> > dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very active
> > Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> > instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab Mustafa,
> > President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active steward
> > and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
> > Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the effort in
> > India.
> >
> > It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali Language
> > Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February, 2017.
> Back
> > in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and workshop
> > with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of Bangladesh
> with
> > the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that process
> > slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> > organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> > Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of the
> > Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by
> Wikimedia
> > Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017. Santali
> > Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program through
> > online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for
> Santali
> > Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with Odia
> > Wikimedians User Group.
> >
> > After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> > Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali Wikipedia
> site
> > was launched on August 2, 2018.
> >
> > Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Ali Haidar Khan
> >
> > Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

[attolippip]

It also does not seem to work correctly on mobile (android):

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMFnewsiteonandroidmobile.png

Best regards,
antanana

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 17:47 Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 8 August 2018 at 15:23, Shabab Mustafa 
> wrote:
>
> > I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.
>
> This is how it appears for me, in Firefox (current version) with
> AdBlockPlus enabled:
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_-_2018-08-08_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_blog.png
>
> AdBlockPlus is reportedly active on 100 million devices.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

This is a wonderful achievement. Shows that dedication and organization can
take you far. Good luck in continuing and developing it further!

בתאריך יום ד׳, 8 באוג׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Ali Haidar Khan ‏<
tonmoy...@gmail.com>:

> Dear All,
>
> We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language Wikipedia (
> https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2, 2018
> and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
> maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own alphabet,
> Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
> a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken by
> around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and Nepal).
>
> This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible because of
> the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh, India
> and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
> congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment and
> are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik Soren, a
> dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very active
> Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
> instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab Mustafa,
> President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active steward
> and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
> Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the effort in
> India.
>
> It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali Language
> Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February, 2017. Back
> in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and workshop
> with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of Bangladesh with
> the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that process
> slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia Bangladesh
> organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
> Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of the
> Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by Wikimedia
> Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017. Santali
> Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program through
> online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for Santali
> Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with Odia
> Wikimedians User Group.
>
> After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
> Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali Wikipedia site
> was launched on August 2, 2018.
>
> Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ali Haidar Khan
>
> Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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[Wikimedia-l] Announcing launch of Santali Language Wikipedia

[Ali Haidar Khan]

Dear All,

We are very pleased to announce the launch of Santali Language Wikipedia (
https://sat.wikipedia.org). The site has been launched on August 2, 2018
and, after the import of pages from Wikimedia Incubator and some
maintenance work, it’s now open for all. Santali Language’s own alphabet,
Ol Chiki, has been used as the alphabet of this Wikipedia. Santali is
a language in the Munda subfamily of Austroasiatic languages, spoken by
around 7.4 million people in South Asia (Bangladesh, India and Nepal).

This is a very special moment for us and has been made possible because of
the joint effort by Santali Language Wikipedian’s from Bangladesh, India
and Nepal. Wikimedia Bangladesh and Bangla Wikimedia Community
congratulates the Santali Language Community for their accomplishment and
are honored to be a part of this tremendous achievement. Manik Soren, a
dedicated Santali Wikipedian from Bangladesh, along with some very active
Santali Language Wikipedians from Bangladesh and India has been
instrumental in this effort. We would also like to thank Shabab Mustafa,
President of Wikimedia Bangladesh and Nahid Sultan, a very active steward
and Secretary of Wikimedia Bangladesh, for coordinating the effort in
Bangladesh and Odia Wikimedians User Group for coordinating the effort in
India.

It is worth mentioning that the process of creating a Santali Language
Wikipedia began in 2012 and, later on, got momentum in February, 2017. Back
in 2012, Wikimedia Bangladesh organized a Wikipedia meetup and workshop
with the Santali Language Community in Dinajpur District of Bangladesh with
the goal of launching a Santali Language Wikipedia. However, that process
slowed down after some time. Then in September 2017, Wikimedia Bangladesh
organized another meeting with Santali Language Community in a Dhaka
Wikipedia meetup where a decision was made to expedite the launch of the
Wikipedia. Following that discussion, a workshop was organized by Wikimedia
Bangladesh for Santali Language Wikipedians on December 30, 2017. Santali
Language Wikipedians from India also participated in that program through
online discussion. Subsequently, another workshop was organized for Santali
Language Community in India on March 11, 2018 in collaboration with Odia
Wikimedians User Group.

After months of work, Santali Language Wikipedia got the approval of
Language Committee on June 28, 2018 and finally, the Santali Wikipedia site
was launched on August 2, 2018.

Let us congratulate and welcome the Santali Language Community.


Cheers!

Ali Haidar Khan

Executive Committee Member, Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

[Andy Mabbett]

On 8 August 2018 at 15:23, Shabab Mustafa  wrote:

> I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.

This is how it appears for me, in Firefox (current version) with
AdBlockPlus enabled:

   
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_-_2018-08-08_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_blog.png

AdBlockPlus is reportedly active on 100 million devices.

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[Shabab Mustafa]

I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.
What kind of visitor tracking are we using in this site? And if someone is
not willing to be tracked, this site should load fully without breaking the
styling.
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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:13 PM Peter Coombe  wrote:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> I'm not sure exactly what, if any, other sites this new privacy policy
> might cover. However I can confirm that the WMF fundraising infrastructure
> remains under the existing Donor Privacy Policy:
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Donor_privacy_policy/en
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Coombe
> Fundraising Production Manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:00, Lodewijk  wrote:
>
> > I can imagine that this alternate privacy policy is actually covering a
> > wider range of sites that are non-wiki, such as the fundraising
> > infrastructure and the survey websites, voting websites etc. Rather than
> > having a different privacy policy for each of those instances, I think it
> > is actually clearer to have two policies: one for the content delivery
> (the
> > 'wikis') that have practically zero cookie tracking to the best of my
> > knowledge and one for the other websites that may require other methods
> to
> > be functional.
> >
> > As a sidenote, I think it actually could be a totally fair statement to
> say
> > that wikimediafoundation.org is, relative to the content projects, not a
> > 'major site' of the WMF. It is supporting infrastructure at best. (no
> > offense :) )
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 7:23 AM Chico Venancio 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Indeed an special watered down privacy policy is strange. It is worth
> > > noting that the standard privacy policy[1] does not state that it only
> > > applies to "wiki based websites" but instead lists what it does and
> does
> > > not cover[2], the only interpretation that allows a separate policy for
> > the
> > > new website weirdly leaves* https://wikimediafoundation.org/
> > >  as being defined to not be a major
> > site
> > > of WMF. *
> > >
> > > Irregardless of possible poor wording of both privacy policies, I find
> it
> > > strange that the main website for WMF has a tracking pixel and forces
> > > visitors to provide users' personal information (as defined by either
> > > privacy policies) to Google and Wordpress.com.
> > >
> > > Perhaps this is something WMF could revisit?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Chico Venancio
> > >
> > > [1]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
> > > [2]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#coverage
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-08-06 2:06 GMT-03:00 Yair Rand :
> > >
> > > > There are several more issues I've noticed with the new website:
> > > > * According to the notice at the bottom, the company "Automattic
> Inc."
> > is
> > > > receiving all sorts of data about all visitors to the site, including
> > > > location information, cookie data, data from pixel tags/web beacons
> > used
> > > to
> > > > track visitors and target ads on other WordPress sites, and other
> data.
> > > > * The "non-wiki privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation" linked at
> > the
> > > > bottom is different than the regular privacy policy. Why is this?
> > > > * Much of the content is essentially English-Wikipedia-only. "Visit
> The
> > > > Teahouse for a friendly place to learn about editing" Most Wikipedias
> > > don't
> > > > have teahouses or equivalents.
> > > > * In "Wikimedia projects": "Wikipedia - All the world's knowledge".
> See
> > > > [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of
> > > information]].
> > > > * "Working with partners like Google, the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
> > and
> > > > UNESCO, Wikimedia...". I don't think most Wikimedians are okay with
> the
> > > WMF
> > > > describing Google as among its partners. Nor the Met or UNESCO, for
> > that
> > > > matter.
> > > > * In the "Technology" section, there's a paragraph devoted to
> bragging
> > > > about how NASA has an internal Mediawiki wiki. I don't think that
> > belongs
> > > > there.
> > > > * The actual Wikimedia Foundation Mission is kind of buried deep in
> the
> > > > site. The Mission is the definitive version of what the WMF is
> supposed
> > > to
> > > > be doing, and I really think it should be highlighted somewhere in a
> > more
> > > > prominent position.
> > > >
> > > > "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage
> > people
> > > > around the world to collect and develop educational content under a
> > free
> > > > license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively
> and
> > > > globally.
> > > >
> > > > In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation
> > > > provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework
> > for
> > > > the support and development of multilingual wiki projects 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

[Peter Coombe]

Hi Lodewijk,

I'm not sure exactly what, if any, other sites this new privacy policy
might cover. However I can confirm that the WMF fundraising infrastructure
remains under the existing Donor Privacy Policy:
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Donor_privacy_policy/en

Thanks,
Peter

-- 
Peter Coombe
Fundraising Production Manager
Wikimedia Foundation

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:00, Lodewijk  wrote:

> I can imagine that this alternate privacy policy is actually covering a
> wider range of sites that are non-wiki, such as the fundraising
> infrastructure and the survey websites, voting websites etc. Rather than
> having a different privacy policy for each of those instances, I think it
> is actually clearer to have two policies: one for the content delivery (the
> 'wikis') that have practically zero cookie tracking to the best of my
> knowledge and one for the other websites that may require other methods to
> be functional.
>
> As a sidenote, I think it actually could be a totally fair statement to say
> that wikimediafoundation.org is, relative to the content projects, not a
> 'major site' of the WMF. It is supporting infrastructure at best. (no
> offense :) )
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 7:23 AM Chico Venancio 
> wrote:
>
> > Indeed an special watered down privacy policy is strange. It is worth
> > noting that the standard privacy policy[1] does not state that it only
> > applies to "wiki based websites" but instead lists what it does and does
> > not cover[2], the only interpretation that allows a separate policy for
> the
> > new website weirdly leaves* https://wikimediafoundation.org/
> >  as being defined to not be a major
> site
> > of WMF. *
> >
> > Irregardless of possible poor wording of both privacy policies, I find it
> > strange that the main website for WMF has a tracking pixel and forces
> > visitors to provide users' personal information (as defined by either
> > privacy policies) to Google and Wordpress.com.
> >
> > Perhaps this is something WMF could revisit?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Chico Venancio
> >
> > [1]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
> > [2]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#coverage
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-08-06 2:06 GMT-03:00 Yair Rand :
> >
> > > There are several more issues I've noticed with the new website:
> > > * According to the notice at the bottom, the company "Automattic Inc."
> is
> > > receiving all sorts of data about all visitors to the site, including
> > > location information, cookie data, data from pixel tags/web beacons
> used
> > to
> > > track visitors and target ads on other WordPress sites, and other data.
> > > * The "non-wiki privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation" linked at
> the
> > > bottom is different than the regular privacy policy. Why is this?
> > > * Much of the content is essentially English-Wikipedia-only. "Visit The
> > > Teahouse for a friendly place to learn about editing" Most Wikipedias
> > don't
> > > have teahouses or equivalents.
> > > * In "Wikimedia projects": "Wikipedia - All the world's knowledge". See
> > > [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of
> > information]].
> > > * "Working with partners like Google, the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
> and
> > > UNESCO, Wikimedia...". I don't think most Wikimedians are okay with the
> > WMF
> > > describing Google as among its partners. Nor the Met or UNESCO, for
> that
> > > matter.
> > > * In the "Technology" section, there's a paragraph devoted to bragging
> > > about how NASA has an internal Mediawiki wiki. I don't think that
> belongs
> > > there.
> > > * The actual Wikimedia Foundation Mission is kind of buried deep in the
> > > site. The Mission is the definitive version of what the WMF is supposed
> > to
> > > be doing, and I really think it should be highlighted somewhere in a
> more
> > > prominent position.
> > >
> > > "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage
> people
> > > around the world to collect and develop educational content under a
> free
> > > license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and
> > > globally.
> > >
> > > In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation
> > > provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework
> for
> > > the support and development of multilingual wiki projects and other
> > > endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep
> > > useful information from its projects available on the Internet free of
> > > charge, in perpetuity."
> > >
> > > -- Yair Rand
> > >
> > > 2018-08-03 17:12 GMT-04:00 Andy Mabbett :
> > >
> > > > On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear your
> > > > browser's cache):  https://wikimediafoundation.org/
> > > >
> > > > The home page currently says:
> > > >
> > > >" Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

[Peter Coombe]

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 21:45, Saint Johann  wrote:

>
> — Donation information website features multilingual text, but it’s
> designed in such a way that most of people won’t know how to use it.
> (https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Problems_donating)
>
>
Thank you for this feedback. You're not the only person to raise concerns
about the usability of the translations bar on donate.wikimedia.org. We're
going to look into some alternatives.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201446


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