[Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 7/28/23 12:42, F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l wrote:
Is there any available tool to precisely count how many days in a row a 
Wikimedian from a specifif project has been editing? The sourcethat is 
linked in the Diffs 
page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Longest_active_user_editing_streaks )is only within the English Wikipedia…


In addition to my "Wiki streaks" tool Natalia linked, I'm happy to set 
up the database report for other wikis - just ask :)


Has anyone checked that there is no other user in the rest of the 
other projects (hundreds of them) with a similar or better streak, so 
that the sentence “the Wikimedian with the longest editing streak” is 
fully accurate regarding both language and Wikimedia project?


Here's a version of the streaks report that checked all wikis: 
. 
Johnny Au is still #1, beating all other humans and bots :) Ignoring 
bots, Bruce1ee (also en.wp) is #2. Kocurwaclaw from pl.wp is #3.


I should say that these reports are for the longest *active* daily 
editing streak. At least I never got around to looking for long 
non-active streaks, though it could be an interesting research project! 
If someone has ideas on some SQL to look this up, happy to turn it into 
a proper report.


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[Wikimedia-l] wikimedia.social (was Re: Re: Mozilla's social media pledge)

[Kunal Mehta]

On 7/17/23 11:53, Anusha A wrote:
I wanted to update you that the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a 
Mastodon instance. You can follow us at: 
wikimedia.social/@wikimediafoundation 
.


Awesome, this is really great to see happen! As far as I can tell, the 
reaction on the Fediverse has been pretty positive as well.


At the moment, sign-up is open for Wikimedia Foundation staff as we 
examine moderation and other areas. Product and technology staff will 
use it primarily for developer engagement. The goal is to create a space 
for people to connect and talk tech.


I'll just +1 everything Erik said regarding this topic. Despite being a 
developer, most of my feed is actually trains, bikes and foxes.


Please feel free to reach out to us on our talkpage 
with any questions.


Cool, I've left some notes at 
.


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[Wikimedia-l] Mastodon and Wikimedia

[Kunal Mehta]

(changing the subject seems long overdue)

Hi all,

I wanted to share two cool things related to Mastodon and Wikimedia.

First, it's now possible to verify your Wikimedia account on 
Mastodon[1]. The documentation for this is at 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:RealMe>. Thanks to Taavi 
who led the technical development and all the other people who provided 
input during the process[2].


On 4/13/23 03:11, Kunal Mehta wrote:
In any case, I'm primarily writing this email to let people know that we 
have started a community-run Wikipedia Mastodon account, which you all 
are invited to follow at <https://wikis.world/@wikipedia>, and more 
importantly contribute to, details of which are available at 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/@Wikipedia>.


The @Wikipedia account has been posting about a month and a half now, so 
I've written up a report of the experience and reception so far and 
provided metrics[3] on individual posts: 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/@Wikipedia/May_2023>. (We'll aim to do 
similar metrics reports in the future, but likely won't advertise it as 
widely as this list unless there's a desire for it.)


[1] For free, no need to pay $8 for the checkmark.
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T322717
[3] All of these metrics are public, but require a bit of scripting to 
aggregate.


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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2022 Picture of the Year Results

[Kunal Mehta]

Dear Wikimedians,

The 2022 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to 
announce the results:


In both rounds, people voted for their favorite pictures.

 * In the first round, there were 1102 candidate images.
 * In the second round, people voted for the 56 finalists (the R1 top
   30 overall and top 2 in each category).

In the second round eligible users could vote for up to 3 finalists – 
each of these 3 votes counted equal. There were 2,386 eligible voters in 
R1, and 2,860 in round R2.


Congratulations to the winners of the contest and thanks for creating 
these beautiful pictures and sharing them as freely licensed content:


1. 335 people voted for the winner, File:Phalacrocorax carbo, Egretta
   garzetta and Mareca strepera in Taudha Lake.jpg
   

   by Prasan Shrestha
   
2. In second place, 299 people voted for File:Etipoia Banna tribe
   kids.jpg
   
   by WAVRIK 
3. In third place, 292 people voted for File:Pillars of Creation
   (NIRCam Image).jpg
   

   taken by the James Webb Space Telescope (NASA, ESA, CSA, STScI);
   image processing by Joseph DePasquale (STScI), Anton M. Koekemoer
   (STScI), Alyssa Pagan (STScI)

View those pictures and remaining results on-wiki 
. 
Thanks as well to all the voters that participated the process.


- The Commons Picture of the Year committee 
 

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[Wikimedia-l] Final round of voting open in the seventeenth annual Picture of the Year contest

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi all,

The final round of voting to determine the seventeenth annual Picture of 
the Year is now open! Please cast your vote at  and 
then share with your communities. This round of voting will be open for 
2 weeks.


Thank you to the 2,407 voters who cast more than 118,000 votes in the 
first round to narrow it down to 56 finalists we all are now choosing 
between.


Any user with more than 75 edits before Jan. 1, 2023 is eligible to 
vote; if you're not sure the voting tool will automatically check for you.


If you have any questions, please see the help page: .

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Voting open in the seventeenth annual Picture of the Year contest

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi all,

Voting is now open in the seventeenth annual Picture of the Year 
contest:  - please vote! The first round of voting 
will be open for 2 weeks. There are over 1,100 pictures being considered 
this year and several new categories.


Any user with more than 75 edits before Jan. 1, 2023 is eligible to 
vote; if you're not sure the voting tool will automatically check for you.


If you have any questions, please see the help page: .

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Mozilla's social media pledge

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 4/7/23 18:17, Dan Szymborski wrote:
It doesn't make sense to even talk about actually getting 
involved without discussing *which* of the multitude of Mastodon 
instances to "join,"  There's a lot of legwork to be
done first, as opposed to the simpler task of signing up for, say, an 
alternative of similar construction, like Spoutible.


To be clear, this discussion started in December, which has been more 
than enough time for our friends and allies at Mozilla, Creative 
Commons, Internet Archive, OpenStreetMap and plenty more to set up their 
Mastodon presences. There's no excuse for the WMF to not have figured 
out which server to sign up on (and I don't think that was ever the 
issue anyways).


In any case, I'm primarily writing this email to let people know that we 
have started a community-run Wikipedia Mastodon account, which you all 
are invited to follow at , and more 
importantly contribute to, details of which are available at 
. I hope that collectively 
we'll be able to address the issues that have been raised on this list 
in the past regarding community involvement and participation in social 
media.


We're also celebrating the six month anniversary of Wikis World ("a 
Mastodon server for wiki enthusiasts") today. If you haven't already, 
now is a great time to sign up - instructions at 
.


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Opportunities open for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 3/20/23 19:42, Todd Allen wrote:

Also, who are these three new members and the seven existing ones?


Quoting from 
:


"For their safety, committee members are anonymous, though their real 
identities have been disclosed to the Foundation's legal counsel."


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Mozilla's social media pledge

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 12/20/22 16:16, David Gerard wrote:

Legoktm runs https://wikis.world which a small number of Wikimedians
and WIkimedia groups are already on.


Thanks for promoting us! To clarify, this is absolutely a group effort, 
with Taavi, Lucas Werkmeister, and Nemo_bis being some of the main 
people involved.


Our goal is to build the community organically, so we can take the time 
to properly scale up moderation resources, write documentation, etc. You 
can browse through our pretty vibrant local timeline, 
, with people discussing public domain 
day, redactle scores, unattributed use of photos, software patches, and 
more!


More details and information on how to get an account at 
.



But yes - recommended best practice for organisations is to run their
own instance. Putting an instance up on a domain you own is also a
clear stamp of authenticity.


I would say that for most chapters/user groups, running their own 
instance is a lot of work and overkill; having an account on a regional 
or thematic server would be better. For larger organizations (like the 
WMF), it's definitely doable and really should be done.


So on that note, a big shout out to Wikimedia Deutschland for setting up 
! It's really great to see.



Twitter has stayed up so far, but bits are visibly falling off. The
assorted official Wikimedia accounts should be posting in the main
federation too, from an official presence.


My understanding is that the WMF has some confidential position on this 
that it is explicitly choosing not to share with community members.[1]


[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T323837#8442502

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Announcements] Voting open in the sixteenth annual Picture of the Year contest

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi all,

Voting is now open in the second round of the Picture of the Year 
contest to pick the winner out of 57 gorgeous finalists: 
. It'll be open for 2 weeks, closing on December 15.


If you have any questions, please see the help page: .

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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Voting open in the sixteenth annual Picture of the Year contest

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi all,

Voting is now open in the sixteenth annual Picture of the Year contest: 
 - please vote! The first round of voting will be 
open for 2 weeks.


Any user with more than 75 edits before Jan. 1, 2022 is eligible to 
vote; if you're not sure the voting tool will automatically check for you.


If you have any questions, please see the help page: .

P.S. You may notice this is the 2021 edition, we fell behind on starting 
the contest. We can always use more volunteers to help, please let us 
know if you're interested in helping in the future.


Thanks,
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Presenting about transparency in Wikimedia's technical spaces

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 7/22/22 22:07, Kunal Mehta wrote:
Tomorrow at the HOPE 2022 conference, I'm giving a talk titled, "How to 
Run a Top-10 Website, Publicly and Transparently", discussing the impact 
of transparency in Wikimedia's technical spaces. A number of people have 
expressed interest in watching, including non-technical users, so I'm 
advertising it a bit more broadly.


A recording and transcript of the talk is now available at 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Legoktm/How_to_Run_a_Top-10_Website,_Publicly_and_Transparently>. 
I hope people find it informative!


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost issue (Aug. 1) is out

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Hi everyone,

On 8/2/22 07:01, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
July has ended and a new Signpost issue is out – complete with an 
Election Guide that includes op-eds by all six shortlisted candidates 
for the WMF Board, and candidates' answers to community questions on the 
associated talk pages.


I want to thank the Signpost editors for setting this up and for 
allowing me to write an op-ed about why I'm running: 
.


There was a pretty short period of time for community members to suggest 
questions for candidates, so I'm happy to answer any questions people 
might have about my candidacy on the talk page or elsewhere.


Thanks,
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[Wikimedia-l] Presenting about transparency in Wikimedia's technical spaces - July 23, 17:00 UTC

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Hi,

Tomorrow at the HOPE 2022 conference, I'm giving a talk titled, "How to 
Run a Top-10 Website, Publicly and Transparently", discussing the impact 
of transparency in Wikimedia's technical spaces. A number of people have 
expressed interest in watching, including non-technical users, so I'm 
advertising it a bit more broadly.


I apologize for the short notice, I didn't realize the stream would be 
free to watch until yesterday (thanks Ori!).


Time: 2022-07-23 17:00 UTC (1pm ET) - 
https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1658595637


Stream: https://hope.net/416dac.html

If you can't watch it live, a recording will be uploaded later on.

I've documented all of this on-wiki, including the full abstract: 
.


I am of course happy to answer any questions people might have after the 
talk!


Thanks,
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Announcements] Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month: We are back in 2022!

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 2/23/22 21:58, 4nn1l2 wrote:
This is a legitimate concern as several users have dared to ask 
questions as you can see at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ukraine%27s_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month 


We need more transparency regarding this decision. Granted, there was a 
campaign last year around this time, but was it advertised at a global 
scale? At least, I can't remember that.


Here's a posting on this list about it a year ago: 
.


And the CentralNotice request: 
.


That said, now seems like the time for compassion rather than conspiracy.

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: board accountability [was Re: Re: Board statement endorsing community voting on the enforcement guidelines for Universal code of Conduct (UCoC)]

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 1/30/22 21:14, Luis Villa wrote:
(2) What mechanisms was/is the board using to measure organizational 
health? For example, in 2015 we did an employee engagement survey only 
when morale had already plummeted over a cliff; the board never asked 
for one. Should it have? If not, what should it have been doing instead? 
(The way it did listen to staff—anonymous backchannels available only to 
certain staff—was… honestly not ideal. I understand that the HR team now 
does regular engagement surveys; no idea if those are reported to the 
board’s Talent and Culture Committee[2]?)


This is no longer the case, no survey was held in 2021 and AIUI the 2020 
results were significantly delayed and not properly/fully released to staff.


I'm not aware of any significant improvements to the board<-->staff 
communication channels either. The board promised staff an ombudsperson 
back during the 2015-era drama that never materialized despite staff 
repeatedly asking for it. Given today's circumstances and problems, I 
would expect that such an ombudsperson would need to be elected/selected 
by staff, not the board/management.


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

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On 1/13/22 08:50, Steven Walling wrote:
If we are having trouble retaining CTOs and CPOs, the first people for 
the Board and CEO to ask about why are *not* outside tech execs from 
venture-backed companies. It’s the tech employees of the Foundation 
(those past leaders in those roles and their entire reporting chain), 
community software contributors, other leaders of influential projects 
like Mozilla that have similar struggles, and potential candidates we 
liked for leadership roles who declined their offers. If we need 
advisors with tech skills for our incoming CEO, we have dozens of people 
(remember our long defunct advisory board? Or perhaps the long-tenured 
technical staff who have both expertise and Wikimedia values embedded in 
their bones?)


I entirely agree with you, except WMF upper management (and I guess the 
board, by their implicit approval) have made it clear that they do not 
want experienced technical staff in positions of power and decision 
making by abolishing TechCom and constantly rotating the new "technical 
decision making process" (which entirely excludes volunteers of course). 
That plus the intolerance for any dissent, whether public or private, 
mean that often technical staff are either unable to provide appropriate 
advice or are ignored.


The two CTO/VP of Engineering that had the longest tenures were Brion 
and Erik. And it's not even close, I don't think anyone else has made it 
a full 2 years. What sets those two apart from the others should be 
obvious :-)


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 1/1/22 12:10, Asaf Bartov wrote:
It seems to me there are *very few* people who could change status quo, 
not much more than a handful: the Foundation's executive leadership (in 
its annual planning work, coming up this first quarter of 2022), and the 
Board of Trustees.


If the goal is to get paid WMF staff to fix the issues, then you're 
correct. However, I do not believe that as a solution is healthy 
long-term. The WMF isn't perfect and I don't think it's desirable to 
have a huge WMF that tries to do everything and has a monopoly on 
technical prioritization.


The technical stack must be co-owned by volunteers and paid staff from 
different orgs at all levels. It's significantly more straightforward 
now for trusted volunteers to get NDA/deployment access than it used to 
be, there are dedicated training sessions, etc.


Given that the multimedia stack is neglected and the WMF has given no 
indication it intends to work on/fix the problem, we should be 
recruiting people outside the WMF's paid staff who are interested in 
working on this and give them the necessary access/mentorship to get it 
done. Given the amount of work on e.g. T40010[1] to develop an 
alternative SVG renderer, I'm sure those people exist.


Take moving Thumbor to Buster[2] for example. That requires 
forward-porting some Debian packages written Python, and then testing in 
WMCS that there's no horrible regressions in newer imagemagick, librsvg, 
etc. I'm always happy to mentor people w/r to Debian packaging (and have 
done so in the past), and there are a decent amount of people in our 
community who know Python, and likely others from the Commons community 
who would be willing to help with testing and dealing with whatever fallout.


So I think the status quo can be changed by just about anyone who is 
motivated to do so, not by trying to convince the WMF to change its 
prioritization, but just by doing the work. We should be empowering 
those people rather than continuing to further entrench a WMF technical 
monopoly.


[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40010
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T216815

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Upload for large files is broken

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 10/29/21 7:17 AM, Alexandros Kosiaris wrote:

For what it's worth, we have found a regression today that when
addressed, I expect will fix at least some of these issues. More in
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275752


Following up, this was fixed on Oct. 29 and most large file uploads are 
working again. This will also be mentioned in next week's Tech News.


For those interested, an incident report is available at 
.


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[Wikimedia-l] Locking mailing list threads

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 10/26/21 4:41 PM, Risker wrote:

It is unfortunate that the software doesn't permit locking of threads.


It does :) A list admin can set a header filter of "Subject" matching 
whatever thread's subject, and choose either to hold for moderation, 
discard (no notification), or reject (with notification) all emails that 
match.


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 6/25/21 12:58 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:


Some precedents:
~ As Florence noted, in 2007, Erik made a similar transition.  (A bit 
contentious; there was a long internal-l thread).


And on Foundation-l 
.


~ In 2013, Ting stepped down from the Board to apply to the ED search; 
and addressed concerns at the time. (Discussion on this list 
) 



Try this link 
. 
Though I couldn't find any replies to Ting on Wikimedia-l, maybe the 
real discussion happened elsewhere.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Test Mailman3 in production

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 3/25/21 11:45 PM, Pankaj Jangid wrote:

One question. I subscribe to this list via the NNTP bridge hosted at
gmane.io. Will the change make any difference at that end? I mean do the
administrators of Gmane require any change?


My understanding is that Gmane is subscribed to our mailing lists just 
like a normal user. I don't expect anything will change in that area 
since all subscriptions will be carried over.


Mailman3 also has plugins for sites like mail-archive.com[1] which I 
think are manually configured for now. I haven't looked into the 
implications of what enabling such a plugin would be though.


[1] 
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/archiving/docs/common.html#the-mail-archive-com


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Authorities in Myanmar blocks all languages of Wikipedia, says internet freedom watchdog = Qiuwen

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 2/19/21 1:08 PM, 《求闻》编译组／Qiuwen WMCug wrote:

Netblocks provided additional information in a picture attached to the tweet,
suggests that they have tested the connectivity of Wikipedia in English and
French, Wikidata, and wikimedia.org, with none of them accessible. This may
intimate that it is highly that the Burmese authorities not only blocked "all
language editions of Wikipedia," but all Wikimedia projects, as a whole. The
picture also suggests that Wikipedia remains inaccessible across four different
internet service providers in Myanmar.


NetBlocks really isn't a reliable source, see .

Instead, I'd recommend following OONI, which published their own 
findings a few days ago: 
.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Surveys using third party tools on Wikimedia projects

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 2/14/21 5:08 PM, Łukasz Garczewski wrote:

*So here's a constructive alternative idea:*

  * Let's gather the needs and use cases for tools used by WMF and
affiliates,
  * Let's build a list of potential open source replacements and map
what features are missing,
  * Let's put the word out that we're looking for open source
replacements where there are none available,
  * Let's embed Wikimedia liaisons in key open source projects to ensure
our needs and use cases are addressed promptly,
  * Let's use initiatives such as Summer of Code to kickstart building
some of these tools.


Please see  which is the 
starting point of what you're looking for.


> 

Oh, and in case anybody's wondering why we can't build these tools in-house:

We could but really, really shouldn't. MediaWiki and the wider Wikimedia 
tech infrastructure is still in need of huge improvements. It would be 
really unwise to distract WMF's development and product teams from these 
goals by requesting they build standard communication or reporting tools.


I don't understand this. If a survey tool is important to the movement, 
why isn't it worth being worked on?


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 2020-09-10 04:34, Asaf Bartov wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, 14:05 Fæ  wrote:
>> Who are the list mods?
> 
> The current list admins are John Vandenberg, Shani Evenstein, and I.
> 
>> Unfortunately, this is not made clear at
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
> 
> That is indeed unfortunate! It *used* to list explicit email addresses of
> the admins. I'll see if there's any setting that can be changed.

This change was intentional, see
 (presumably there's some
mailman config to toggle it if people really wanted).

I documented the list admins on wiki:
.
Maybe consider adding it to the list description?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi,

On 2020-07-09 13:15, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote:
> Which cloud provider would you recommend? 

Wikimedia Cloud Services, which incidentally, has the fastest network
connection to Wikimedia sites by virtue of it being hosted *inside* the
cluster.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] June 4 1800 Maggie Dennis office hour (with a twist)

[Kunal Mehta]

Hi Pine,

On 2020-06-05 00:29, Pine W wrote:
> I don't know what all was going on inside of WMF, but I would have
> wanted an outsider -- that is, not someone inside of WMF -- to review
> the actions of the staff, similar to how police departments are
> sometimes reviewed by outside agencies after high profile incidents,
> and I would want the report from that review to be public. Given my
> perspective on what happened, I think that at least one WMF staff
> person probably should have been demoted or fired, and perhaps more
> than one, up to and including Katherine. However, I don't have enough
> information to decide what accountability measures should have been
> taken.

So by your own account, you don't have enough information, yet you're
still calling for people to be fired. We went over this in January -
stop it.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2020-January/094131.html

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

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Hi,

On 04/04/2018 08:36 PM, Anthony Cole wrote:
> I'm curious also. I release my articles under "attribution, share alike"
> and rely on WMF to preserve those rights.

Why are you relying on the WMF? Wikipedia contributors (like yourself)
are the ones who own copyright to the articles - the WMF doesn't. Unless
you've granted/transferred copyright to the WMF (or some other license
enforcement agreement), I don't think they can pursue legal action for
you or other Wikipedians. (IANAL, etc.)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

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Hi,

On 12/07/2017 04:51 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote:
> Loomio offers free use for community cases. But it's non-free
> software, as far as I can see, but I didn't made deep inquiry. So I
> wondered if anyone was aware of a free software equivalent.

Loomio is free software, it's licensed under the GNU Affero General
Public License[1][2].

[1] https://github.com/loomio/loomio/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
[2] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-affero-gpl.html

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