Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Board of Trustees Chair and Vice Chair positions
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
Hi Austin, Thanks for letting me know. I use PGP, but there's something wrong with my key right now. I'll look into it and get back to you. Thanks, Yana On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder y...@wikimedia.org wrote: I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are very limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free access to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship landscape, feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email. Would you mind clarifying which encryption method? S/MIME? PGP? I was actually going to reply, because what you said puzzled me, but this is the only PGP key I could find for you on the public keyservers: pub 4096R/FFF81E5E 2015-06-01 *** KEY REVOKED *** [not verified] Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. In other words, IANYL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS
Hi all, Our understanding is that there is currently no country where only HTTPS access to Wikipedia is blocked. In Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran, the government appears to have been blocking select Wikipedia articles at different times.[1] The Great Firewall of China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China has also been blocking select articles on Chinese and English Wikipedia.[2] While it previously blocked all HTTPS access to Chinese Wikipedia, that block has more recently been extended to HTTP access as well. The transition to HTTPS by default therefore shouldn't block anyone's access to all of Wikipedia due to censorship. Rather it should help prevent censorship of select Wikipedia articles, which we know is a problem in different parts of the world. I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are very limited situations where public discussions could actually hurt free access to Wikipedia. If you have thoughts about the evolving censorship landscape, feel free to email me directly, if possible via encrypted email. With respect to Wikipedia Zero, we have been working with mobile carriers for over a year to make sure that they are able to provide access free of data charges over HTTPS. For many carriers, this required them to adjust the technical implementation of how they waive data charges. We are now finally ready to transition Wikipedia Zero access to HTTPS by default. Best, Yana [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com wrote: But won't the people in Iran or China would be able to access the Wikimedia sites through http instead of https? And what about accessing through https within Wikipedia Zero? Is cost-free access available through https? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June 2015 at 05:21, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) China is currently blocking HTTP and has done so quite frequently. The ability to block is largely unrelated to security. so people in these countries used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in this countries was NOT to target wikipedia, it was to target social networking sites and american based email sites like yahoo and gmail etc..but now by moving to HTTPS, we have now become a target for those countries..well done.. That doesn't make sense. HTTPs doesn't hide the domain. The country can still tell that someone is visiting wikipedia rather than say facebook. What becomes more difficult is telling what a person is viewing on wikipedia. and to add to that, people who used wikipedia in those countries to find the truth about whats happening in their country and other regions can no longer do so since its blocked..Well Done again WMF.. Well actually no they couldn't if they had a government with active blocking measures. With HTTP traffic governments and ISPs can (and did) block individual pages that they don't like. Someone has to be fired for this. That would seem to be something of an over reaction even if you disagree with the decision. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. In other words, IANYL https
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality
Hi all, As Gayle mentioned in her email, the article in the Washington Post did not represent an official position on net neutrality from the Wikimedia Foundation, or how we understand Wikipedia Zero. I wanted to provide some background that does. Wikipedia Zero is designed to empower people who cannot afford to access information to get basic access to knowledge and participate in the creation of knowledge. It’s widely understood that barriers like poverty and limited internet connectivity are two major blockers preventing people around the world from full access to knowledge, and there are a number of groups working to address these issues as part of the broader Access to Knowledge (A2K) movement. Wikipedia Zero is a powerful tool for accessing knowledge, but it is not the solution to the whole problem. It’s one tool in a toolbox. Real change needs to address issues such as cost barriers, literacy, and access to infrastructure. That’s why we’re also developing a more coordinated effort within a broader A2K coalition to collectively address the systemic challenges. While Wikipedia Zero serves broader A2K objectives, we are mindful that zero-rating can be a challenging issue for net neutrality advocacy. In response, we’ve developed ten operating principles https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero_Operating_Principles to make sure that the initiative remains a free knowledge base with operations that are transparent to users.[1] They are intended to deter Wikipedia Zero from being used to introduce other zero-rating initiatives that don't follow the operating principles. We developed these principles after extensive consultation with net neutrality advocates about their concerns regarding commercial zero-rating arrangements, and believe they are strong and useful guidance for advocates to distinguish free access to Wikipedia from other zero-rating programs. We’ll continue working with policymakers on net neutrality and welcome your constructive suggestions in this regard. We believe the vision of Wikimedia — the sum of all knowledge, available to all — and the values of an open internet are entirely consistent and in the global public interest. We’re also learning from your comments and welcome more input on how the Wikimedia community can support the A2K movement. Best, Yana [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero_Operating_Principles -- Yana Welinder Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. In other words, IANYL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Thanks Yann! We will take care of those files. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just a note: we can update the license on Commons, but I noticed that the files were copied locally on https://wikimediafoundation.org/ Someone with the right priviledges will have to do it there. Regards, Yann 2014-10-30 17:30 GMT+01:00 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org: Still traveling, but let me see if I can briefly dispel some of the confusion. CC BY-SA 3.0 grants users the right to use an image under copyright law. It does not cover trademark rights. The goal of trademark rights is to protect the logo from being used in a way that confuses the public. Trademark protection only covers certain types of uses, which are not the same as use covered with a copyright license like CC BY-SA 3.0. The Wikimedia trademark policy provides how the logos can be used as trademarks and here is some discussion about why it does that: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy-purpose#trademark-purpose . So are the logos free under the Free Culture Definition? Yes, because the definition only talks about freedom under copyright law and lists CC BY-SA 3.0 as a free license. The definition does not mean that users have freedom to violate other types of rights. Hope this clarifies! Yana On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar ral...@vmail.me wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark status of the logos as governed by the new trademark policy: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy. Thank you, Yana. However, as someone who understand little about copyright and trademarks, for me it is difficult to understand how can a logo be used commercially and not at the same time, and how can a logo be edited in any but at the same time it only can be published according to specific visual guidelines. Are the logos Free Cultural Works (as defined by Erik Möller on http://freedomdefined.org) or not? - -- Allan J. Aguilar ral...@vmail.me - ralgis@freenode - al...@jabber.ccc.de PGP: B387 F3B1 0F2C F46B 36AD FAFF 7BC3 594D F7C0 E1A3 OTR: E95CB6E6 22751983 CA8F3F67 3DFACBFF 0FA3A1BC userralgis@Twitter - User:Ralgis@Wikimedia https://editandowikimedia.wordpress.com https://libredebian.wordpress.com https://revistasifra.wordpress.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUUcSBAAoJEHvDWU33wOGjFQMQAKbKFyTy/eTJVZp1N/eRlJaK 2hHUNQVhtUGXWcmRo36bnleEAknhkNUqdO0/J0PdI9UMSTptnUg55WQSmMA5EVuB b+jne6rGspZXd3qJ1h1TLYAfYI86dXMYuqYKRDOPhyWuWJM/XVDsXueCVWu4M9pc 0VD24NKcmRIzjRfwIx972yZUUyv7/xabH2REjBbi0SRpAqmnFKb2/KZHQK0j9l4L HLkO1FXjylAXnLdtZrTy3tvH9XOK/WH/PH2P4uI0aFXvZK8Skw50Iicf2d/6Gn9M pqFiyq0UVozXrRSP/3HKUJPT52Vcxz0+kPxcMhSpUvocbcUvQQGj5/cDur2za7yf BGyvPvCQtaip33YpQK2TDexAD7AxsP273RWc8U654PGnNq11C2Vn+goH5AMXFj13 n+a6q9n4Dw3pO3AjUzIJF+t1nXQfsPCumjVvUTXawF1hEA5qPxAgR+Y3kq69NaPG gMu9hAVSfCf4T/YibKiMHtRKPO4csiJbs1XfpIUFlXVQ7hhR2Urkjccr5RRRM7nw jhXMHCqblfxugGvtORgg3o+SZzQB4FKYhb5QLe6vwev36mGzVRDnzncImaLzo1s+ k3+4yJcPpZONrwAesJ0imC80jiW0IIF0bgRHLCVlh82/f7NN/qmfD2QZUVOdqt+o lx2rVnQe2AlSkeBnwxb5 =Xd7+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Still traveling, but let me see if I can briefly dispel some of the confusion. CC BY-SA 3.0 grants users the right to use an image under copyright law. It does not cover trademark rights. The goal of trademark rights is to protect the logo from being used in a way that confuses the public. Trademark protection only covers certain types of uses, which are not the same as use covered with a copyright license like CC BY-SA 3.0. The Wikimedia trademark policy provides how the logos can be used as trademarks and here is some discussion about why it does that: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy-purpose#trademark-purpose . So are the logos free under the Free Culture Definition? Yes, because the definition only talks about freedom under copyright law and lists CC BY-SA 3.0 as a free license. The definition does not mean that users have freedom to violate other types of rights. Hope this clarifies! Yana On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar ral...@vmail.me wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark status of the logos as governed by the new trademark policy: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy. Thank you, Yana. However, as someone who understand little about copyright and trademarks, for me it is difficult to understand how can a logo be used commercially and not at the same time, and how can a logo be edited in any but at the same time it only can be published according to specific visual guidelines. Are the logos Free Cultural Works (as defined by Erik Möller on http://freedomdefined.org) or not? - -- Allan J. Aguilar ral...@vmail.me - ralgis@freenode - al...@jabber.ccc.de PGP: B387 F3B1 0F2C F46B 36AD FAFF 7BC3 594D F7C0 E1A3 OTR: E95CB6E6 22751983 CA8F3F67 3DFACBFF 0FA3A1BC userralgis@Twitter - User:Ralgis@Wikimedia https://editandowikimedia.wordpress.com https://libredebian.wordpress.com https://revistasifra.wordpress.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUUcSBAAoJEHvDWU33wOGjFQMQAKbKFyTy/eTJVZp1N/eRlJaK 2hHUNQVhtUGXWcmRo36bnleEAknhkNUqdO0/J0PdI9UMSTptnUg55WQSmMA5EVuB b+jne6rGspZXd3qJ1h1TLYAfYI86dXMYuqYKRDOPhyWuWJM/XVDsXueCVWu4M9pc 0VD24NKcmRIzjRfwIx972yZUUyv7/xabH2REjBbi0SRpAqmnFKb2/KZHQK0j9l4L HLkO1FXjylAXnLdtZrTy3tvH9XOK/WH/PH2P4uI0aFXvZK8Skw50Iicf2d/6Gn9M pqFiyq0UVozXrRSP/3HKUJPT52Vcxz0+kPxcMhSpUvocbcUvQQGj5/cDur2za7yf BGyvPvCQtaip33YpQK2TDexAD7AxsP273RWc8U654PGnNq11C2Vn+goH5AMXFj13 n+a6q9n4Dw3pO3AjUzIJF+t1nXQfsPCumjVvUTXawF1hEA5qPxAgR+Y3kq69NaPG gMu9hAVSfCf4T/YibKiMHtRKPO4csiJbs1XfpIUFlXVQ7hhR2Urkjccr5RRRM7nw jhXMHCqblfxugGvtORgg3o+SZzQB4FKYhb5QLe6vwev36mGzVRDnzncImaLzo1s+ k3+4yJcPpZONrwAesJ0imC80jiW0IIF0bgRHLCVlh82/f7NN/qmfD2QZUVOdqt+o lx2rVnQe2AlSkeBnwxb5 =Xd7+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
The relicensing applies to the Wikimedia logos, which refers to all the
logos of the Wikimedia wikis:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_trademarks. It also applies
to all the derivatives that carry the {{Copyright by Wikimedia}} template
on Commons. Essentially, the objective is to get rid of that last non-free
license template. I'm traveling for a conference, but I will see if I can
clarify the blog post on this as soon as I have better internet connection.
To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark status of
the logos as governed by the new trademark policy:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.
Best,
Yana
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Yana,
The blog post is not entirely clear as Wikimedia logo can have a
different meaning in different contexts. Reading the blog post, I can't
define precise what a Wikimedia logo is. Wikimedia logo can mean:
* the logo used by Wikimedia:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia-logo.svg
* this logo and all the derivatives of it (for chapters, Meta, etc)
* all logos of all the Wikimedia wikis, including the Wikipedia logo
The blog post speaks in plural form of logos. And the blog post is
speaking about the MediaWiki and Community logos as exception, which differ
much from the Wikimedia logo, I suspect that the blog post tries to say
that all the logos from Wikipedia, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikinews,
Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikidata, Wikispecies, Incubator, Commons,
Wikivoyage, Wikiversity, Wikimania, + all screenshots of wiki pages with
the logo of a Wikimedia-wiki on it, all the derivatives of these logos,
including the Wikimedia family logo.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_logo_family_complete-2013.svg
Can you confirm this, just for the sake of clarity?
Thanks!
Romaine
2014-10-27 18:51 GMT+01:00 Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
Practical question:
The template:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia}}
instead)
Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
(including all translations)
Romaine
2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
Greetings
Ting
Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2]
and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may
need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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[Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2] and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may need to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re-licensing Wikimedia logos on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0
Thanks for the catch, Alice! I just changed it in the post.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Alice Wiegand me.ly...@gmail.com wrote:
Great news!
While the title of the Logo in the blogpost links to the unported version,
you link to the US version of cc-by-sa 3.0 when you mention it first in the
text (in the second paragraph). A mistake?
Alice.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks! A much needed and appreciated move!!
Cheers,
Vishnu
On Monday 27 October 2014 11:21 PM, Yana Welinder wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos on
Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright by
Wikimedia}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia[1]
templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark[2]
and
{{cc-by-sa-3.0}} https://commons.wikimedia.
org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0[3]
templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg[4] and the
Community
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[5]
logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing[6], that may
need
to
be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
Thanks,
Yana
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
[4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia
As the Quartz article from Jens's email discusses, the decision in Chile is very unfortunate.[1] It's an example of when net neutrality — which is an important principle for the free and open internet — is poorly implemented to prevent free dissemination of knowledge. Although Wikipedia Zero is not yet available in Chile, it is a country of interest for the program, so we are thinking about what options are available in light of this decision. That said, I would like to clarify a couple of points about the implementation of Wikipedia Zero that were raised in this thread: 1. The newer Wikipedia Zero partnerships have provided the full Wikipedia sites (m.wikipedia) free of data charges for some time now and we are phasing out the reduced version (zero.wikipedia) from the older partnerships. 2. While earlier Wikipedia Zero partnerships only zero-rated Wikipedia, we are working on getting carriers to zero-rate all the Wikimedia projects. 3. We are also working on getting editing functions zero-rated, though there are some technical hurdles for that right now. But, eventually, Wikipedia Zero will not only make knowledge more accessible, but also empower more people in the Global South to contribute to the projects. 4. Finally, WMF does *not* pay carriers to zero-rate Wikipedia under Wikipedia Zero. Carriers zero-rate the sites because they want to make a commitment to access to knowledge as a corporate social responsibility.[2] I believe this question has already been answered in this thread since Scott raised it earlier, but I just wanted to confirm that Wikipedia Zero does not involve payments. Hope this is helpful! Best, Yana [1] http://qz.com/215064/when-net-neutrality-backfires-chile-just-killed-free-access-to-wikipedia-and-facebook/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_social_responsibility -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: News from Chile Chile’s Subsecretaria de Telecomunicaciones just decided that zero-rating is a promotion tool which is against net neutrality. Therefore all zero-rated-related marketing deals have to stop at the 1st of June. According to a WMF-list in Chile no provider has been offering Wikipedia Zero. Also I'm not sure if this dismissal reflects only on zero-rated offers where payment of money is done by the content provider. So it still needs to be checked how/if this decision is influencing our intent to spread Wikipedia Zero. All in all it shows that we have to improve our arguments in a broader scale if we don't want to get caught by promoting Free Knowledge but in fact 'only' pushing the use of a reduced version of one (very well known and superb) website which stand exemplary for this idea. We are caught in a dilemma which imho only can be solved when reaching out to more partners which stand for Free Knowledge and Free Education. Not sure how this could work, but fortunately that never was a reason to stop. News from Chile: http://qz.com/215064/when-net-neutrality-backfires-chile-just-killed-free-access-to-wikipedia-and-facebook/ http://www.subtel.gob.cl/noticias/138-neutralidad-red/5311-ley-de-neutralidad-y-redes-sociales-gratis?_ga=1.143290485.1915805894.1400742323 Overview Wikipedia Zero: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mobile_partnerships 2014-05-30 6:59 GMT+02:00 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com: participation is another aspect. wp zero allows free reading. it does not allow free participation. write emails, search for references, download and adjust code. just as a side note, the oxford university stated: until 2012, europe, i.e. 10% of the worlds population, produced 50%+ of wikipedias geotagged contents [1]. imo it is not necessary to terminate wikipedia zero, it just needs to be negotiated differently: if a telco wants to support our case, give every person 200mb free internet access. unrestricted. or, if we need to break some law like now or be in the grey area, we could support additionally a viral model, like: if somebody is a wikipedia contributor (as defined in election criteria, or like in ghana, 3 edits per week), give them 2 GB free internet traffic for free, unrestricted. if the WMF legal department would be able to negotiate _this_ e.g. in nigeria or india, i would have _big_ respect for them, and with pleasure say in future: you guys are worth every cent of the 5 million we pay you a year. [1] http://geography.oii.ox.ac.uk/?page=the-geographically-uneven-coverage
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia
Gerard: Labs is not currently considered for zero-rating because it can be misused. But it may be added over time if we figure out how to work around that and there is demand for it. Rupert: Your comment seems unnecessarily hostile to me, but I'm going to try to assume good faith. I have of course edited Wikipedia articles in my spare time, though I may not do it as much given that I spend most of my time defending the projects legally and creating a safer environment for other editors. To address your substantive point: that people need full Internet access to do research for Wikipedia articles. I do think there are ways the community could work with editors that have limited access to the Internet rather than dismissing them outright. The fact that people can't afford to pay for full Internet access should not exclude them from contributing to the projects. Best, Yana -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:45 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Yana, may i suggest that you try at least one time in your life edit a wikipedia article so you experience how much bandwith is consumed to do a proper research of verifyable sources? Or just read an article and try to verify the contents? Yana, there is only one type of internet, please leave it up to the reader what is good and what is bad, and please let the wikipedia zero contracts reflect this. Rupert Am 01.06.2014 09:57 schrieb Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org: As the Quartz article from Jens's email discusses, the decision in Chile is very unfortunate.[1] It's an example of when net neutrality — which is an important principle for the free and open internet — is poorly implemented to prevent free dissemination of knowledge. Although Wikipedia Zero is not yet available in Chile, it is a country of interest for the program, so we are thinking about what options are available in light of this decision. That said, I would like to clarify a couple of points about the implementation of Wikipedia Zero that were raised in this thread: 1. The newer Wikipedia Zero partnerships have provided the full Wikipedia sites (m.wikipedia) free of data charges for some time now and we are phasing out the reduced version (zero.wikipedia) from the older partnerships. 2. While earlier Wikipedia Zero partnerships only zero-rated Wikipedia, we are working on getting carriers to zero-rate all the Wikimedia projects. 3. We are also working on getting editing functions zero-rated, though there are some technical hurdles for that right now. But, eventually, Wikipedia Zero will not only make knowledge more accessible, but also empower more people in the Global South to contribute to the projects. 4. Finally, WMF does *not* pay carriers to zero-rate Wikipedia under Wikipedia Zero. Carriers zero-rate the sites because they want to make a commitment to access to knowledge as a corporate social responsibility.[2] I believe this question has already been answered in this thread since Scott raised it earlier, but I just wanted to confirm that Wikipedia Zero does not involve payments. Hope this is helpful! Best, Yana [1] http://qz.com/215064/when-net-neutrality-backfires-chile-just-killed-free-access-to-wikipedia-and-facebook/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_social_responsibility -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets https://twitter.com/yanatweets NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: News from Chile Chile’s Subsecretaria de Telecomunicaciones just decided that zero-rating is a promotion tool which is against net neutrality. Therefore all zero-rated-related marketing deals have to stop at the 1st of June. According to a WMF-list in Chile no provider has been offering Wikipedia Zero. Also I'm not sure if this dismissal reflects only on zero-rated offers where payment of money is done by the content provider. So it still needs to be checked how/if this decision is influencing our intent to spread Wikipedia Zero. All in all it shows that we have
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations
Hi all, We've started changing the copyright status for the Wikibooks logo on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-noslogan.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-unpathed.svg I would really appreciate your help if you would like to replace the copyright template with the CC BY-SA 3.0 template on the different language versions of the Wikibooks logo. But please don't change the copyright status on any of the other Wikimedia logos for now. We're still working on those. Thanks, Yana -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 NOTICE: For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi Rupert, Some Wikimedia logos are not currently under a free license for historic reasons. But we hope to make them all freely licensed eventually and have already done so for newer logos (e.g. the new Wikivoyage logo). Thanks, Yana -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 NOTICE: For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: hi, i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that wikimedia's logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should put the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot. rupert. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:07 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Currently our policies do not allow the use of logos of organizations we are collaborating with, even with permission from these organizations, in the non mainspace areas of Wikipedia where we are collaborating. As this use with permission is legal, it is not in mainspace, and it promotes the development of Wikipedia I have started a RfC here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos_of_organizations_one_is_collaborating_withsuggesting that we allow it. Thoughts? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations
Hi Mike, Some of the Wikimedia logos are already licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 and we want them to be consistently licensed, to the extent that we can. Thanks, Yana On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Hi Yana, That's a good change - thanks for making it. :-) Out of curiosity, is there a reason why you're using v3 rather than v4 of the license? Thanks, Mike On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:46, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, We've started changing the copyright status for the Wikibooks logo on Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-noslogan.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikibooks-logo-en-unpathed.svg I would really appreciate your help if you would like to replace the copyright template with the CC BY-SA 3.0 template on the different language versions of the Wikibooks logo. But please don't change the copyright status on any of the other Wikimedia logos for now. We're still working on those. Thanks, Yana -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 NOTICE: For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Yana Welinder ywelin...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Rupert, Some Wikimedia logos are not currently under a free license for historic reasons. But we hope to make them all freely licensed eventually and have already done so for newer logos (e.g. the new Wikivoyage logo). Thanks, Yana -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 NOTICE: For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: hi, i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that wikimedia's logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should put the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot. rupert. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:07 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Currently our policies do not allow the use of logos of organizations we are collaborating with, even with permission from these organizations, in the non mainspace areas of Wikipedia where we are collaborating. As this use with permission is legal, it is not in mainspace, and it promotes the development of Wikipedia I have started a RfC here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos_of_organizations_one_is_collaborating_withsuggesting that we allow it. Thoughts? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-free images in collaborations
Hi Rupert, Some Wikimedia logos are not currently under a free license for historic reasons. But we hope to make them all freely licensed eventually and have already done so for newer logos (e.g. the new Wikivoyage logo). Thanks, Yana -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 NOTICE: For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: hi, i talked to james about the reasoning. it seems unequal that wikimedia's logo is restricted and allowed, the partners logo not. imo we should put the wikimedia logo's under a standard license, because the wikimedia foundation is giving a bad example without gaining a lot. rupert. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:07 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Currently our policies do not allow the use of logos of organizations we are collaborating with, even with permission from these organizations, in the non mainspace areas of Wikipedia where we are collaborating. As this use with permission is legal, it is not in mainspace, and it promotes the development of Wikipedia I have started a RfC here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos_of_organizations_one_is_collaborating_withsuggesting that we allow it. Thoughts? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] WMF Board approval of new Trademark policy and recommendation on the Community logo registration
Hi all, We are happy to announce that the Board of Trustees approved the new Trademark Policy this Saturday.[1] The policy is based on a seven-month consultation with the community to replace our 2009 policy. The new policy is unconventional in how it provides expansive use of the Wikimedia marks. Thanks to the community's collaboration, the policy is more readable, thorough, and consistent with our values. The Board also approved our recommendation to withdraw trademark registration and protection for the Community logo.[2] We will now initiate withdrawal of US and worldwide registrations. Many thanks to everyone who participated in these two consultations! Thanks, Yana and Geoff [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Closure of trademark policy consultation
Hi everyone, We are happy to announce the completion of the new Wikimedia trademark policy.[1] We first launched a community consultation to gather input for the first draft of this policy on June 3, 2013.[2] The first draft was then discussed and significantly revised in a second consultation.[3] Many thanks to everyone who participated in this discussion over the past seven months. Your detailed feedback resulted in significant improvements to the policy.[4] The new policy is more readable, thorough, and consistent with our values, thanks to your collaboration. We look forward to recommending the final draft to the Wikimedia Board. You can read more about the trademark policy update on the Wikimedia blog.[5] Thanks, Yana and Geoff [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trademark_policydiff=7066184oldid=6408509 [5] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/01/19/announcing-wikimedias-new-community-centered-trademark-policy/ -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Closure of Community Logo Consultation
Hi Dariusz, Thanks for the note and for your appreciation. It was our pleasure to help work this out and reach an informed decision with the community. It also helped inform the larger consultation on the proposed trademark policy [1]. Trying to reconcile the law with a decentralized movement is not always easy. But it definitely makes our job interesting. :) Best, Yana and Geoff [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: Dear Geoff and Yana, even though the consultation results indicate that collective membership mark may have a slightly stronger support than abandoning all trademark registration, the issue is clearly very divisive. Taking the way the issue developed and its history, and past communication problems on the way, I think that recognizing a lack of clear consensus as a good reason to keep the status quo is sensible. I would like to thank you and commend you for your hard work, but also for your flexibility - it must have been tough to put in many hours and work on a solution you believe is best for the community, and then withdraw. best, Dariusz Jemielniak pundit On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, The consultation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation has been closed on the question about the community logo registration. Many thanks to everyone who provided their comments. Based on the consultation, we will be recommending to the Board that we withdraw WMFtrademark registration and protection of the Community logo. Many thanks to all, Geoff and Yana [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- __ dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak profesor zarządzania kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego i centrum badawczego CROW Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. For legal reasons, I may only serve as a lawyer for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Call for input on the new trademark policy
Hi all, The Wikimedia legal and community advocacy team invites youhttp://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/11/18/call-for-input-on-the-new-trademark-policy/[1] to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark policy. The current trademark policyhttps://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy[2] was introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia marks http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks%20[3]. We are now updating this policy to facilitate permissive use of the marks, while respecting the legal requirements for preserving them for the community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review herehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy[4], and we encourage you to discuss it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy [5]. Thanks, Yana Geoff [1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/11/18/call-for-input-on-the-new-trademark-policy/ [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy [3] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks%20 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation on trademark practices and Community logo
Hi all, For the benefit of community members that are not on this list and given some earlier email problems, we have posted our email directly on the consultation talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation#September_26th_Wikimedia-l_email_from_Geoff_and_Yana Please join this community consultation here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation. Many thanks for your input, Geoff Yana --- Original email: Hi all, We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has constructively participated in the ongoing trademark practices consultation that we started several months ago. Please feel free to continue your participation there, since all issues continue to remain open for discussion.[1] We would also like to invite community members to join the ongoing discussion regarding the trademark protection of the Community logo that we posted on Monday: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation. Our goal is to obtain clear direction from the community on how we should proceed with respect to the registration of the Community logo and whether we should pursue a collective membership mark for the community. Our current consultation is part of an ongoing discussion regarding this logo. We joined this discussion on the talk page for the Community logo and Wikimedia thematic organizations.[2] We then initiated a broader discussion on trademarks in June, where the discussion on the Community logo continued.[1] That trademark practice discussion remains open and active, and we have been responding to a wide array of important issues thanks to community comments. We were first notified this weekend of a potential opposition to the trademark registration,[3] an issue not raised earlier in the community consultation on trademark practices even though the deadline for the opposition was not until December 22. We accordingly initiated a community consultation on Monday about how you would like us to handle this.[4] Indeed, this is consistent with the legal team’s ongoing efforts over the last two years to include the community in important legal decisions and policy proposals. We have put a strong emphasis on a close working relationship with the community, such as in our discussions on the Terms of Use, the Privacy Policy, the Conflict of Interest Guidelines, the Legal Fees Assistance Program, the Political Affiliation Policy, and now the Trademark Policy.[5] In our ongoing consultation regarding the Community logo, we have asked the community to let us know whether to seek a collective membership mark (which will help maintain protection against misuse by others, while allowing free use by community members) or to abandon the registration of the trademark and its protection by WMF.[4] Collective membership mark is an idea that we started researching a couple of months ago in light of community comments in the trademarks discussion and had planned to present it after finishing the research. To be clear, we have no emotional investment in the outcome. This consultation is the community's opportunity to let us know how the mark should or should not be protected. As we stated before, we are fine abandoning the trademark registration to put our limited resources against other priorities, but this decision belongs to you and the Board [6]. To ensure full community participation, we have invited users from all across the world to take part in this and continue to encourage that.[4] Our actions will be based on the community consultation underway and the Board, not on an extra-community legal action. We understand that an opposition against the Community logo trademark has been filed, and we will handle it as we do all litigation. The litigation deadlines are a non-issue to us because we will do what the community and Board tell us. Our goal is to determine the broader community intent through a community consultation that is open to everyone. If the community and Board tell us that we should abandon registration, we will do so; if you want it protected, let us know. Please join in at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation and tell us what you would like us to do. Also please feel free to participate in the more comprehensive discussion with the community on trademark practices here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_practices_discussion Thanks for your thoughts on this, Geoff Yana [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_practices_discussion(trademark statement) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion(trademark discussion) [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_thematic_organizations#Is_it_correct_that_this_is_a_community_logo.3F [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACommunity_Logo%2FReclaim_the_Logodiff=5823947oldid=5823876 [4]
Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo
Thanks Nemo! We have also posted two additional responses on the talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Reclaim_the_Logo#Response_of_the_WMF_legal_team_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition . Best, Yana On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Yana Welinder, 21/09/2013 21:12: Hi all, We have posted our response to this on the trademark policy discussion page and with a request to hold off opposition. We welcome your comments there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_** discussion#Response_from_the_**WMF_legal_department_and_** request_to_hold_off_oppositionhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion#Response_from_the_WMF_legal_department_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition We have answered, by the way. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/** Reclaim_the_Logo#Response_of_**the_WMF_legal_team_and_** request_to_hold_off_oppositionhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Reclaim_the_Logo#Response_of_the_WMF_legal_team_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition ** Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Request for consultation about the Community logo
Hi all, The WMF legal team has started a Request for Consultation on whether WMF should continue with the registration of the Community logo as a collective membership mark: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Logo/Request_for_consultation. We would like to invite you to voice your opinion on this question. Many thanks for your input on this! Thanks, Geoff Yana ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo
Hi all, We have posted our response to this on the trademark policy discussion page and with a request to hold off opposition. We welcome your comments there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion#Response_from_the_WMF_legal_department_and_request_to_hold_off_opposition Best, Geoff Yana On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:50 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: We also want to note that this is in no way a legal action against the Foundation, but a simple notice of opposition against the registration of the logo in the European Union. Hi. Thanks for writing this up. I have a few questions. Was the logo trademarked only in the European Union? How is it possible to trademark a public domain image? Who at the Wikimedia Foundation worked to trademark this logo? What's meant by the opposition end date listed at wipo.net? MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Call for community input on our trademark policy and practices
Hi all, On Friday, the Legal and Community Advocacy team posted a call for community input on our trademark policy and practices: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/07/call-for-community-input-trademark-policy-practices/ We have identified some trademark practices that we think are going well, as well as some areas that could be improved. We have also raised specific questions for discussion and seen great community engagement on this issue. To date, community members have provided excellent input on how the trademark policy can be clarified [1] and started translating our initial trademark statement [2] into German, Greek, Spanish, French, Hebrew, Italian, Korean, Russian, and Swedish to make the discussion more approachable internationally. We would like to get as many community members as possible to participate in the discussion and look forward to your comments. Many thanks for your wisdom and help with this! Yana Welinder, Legal Counsel References: [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_practices_discussion ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
