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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] spam on the blog

2019-03-27 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Amir,

Thank you for bringing up those spurious spams to our notice. They
have been removed immediately.

Thanks and regards,
-Viswaprabha

On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 00:28, Amir E. Aharoni
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There's a Wikimedia India Blog - http://blog.wikimedia.in . It's also a part 
> of the Wikimedia Blog Planet ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Planet ).
>
> I may be mistaken, but it looks like lately it has several spam posts, such 
> as http://blog.wikimedia.in/category/students-essay-writing-service-2019/ .
>
> Can anyone please check that?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Thank You :-)

2018-08-28 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Tanveer,
Thank you for all the good and fruitful efforts you have spared for the
Wikimedia mission all these years. You have been very demonstrable and
effective in many realms of participation within the complex structures of
the mission in the Indian/Indic context.
March ahead through a bright career path. And always keep a watchful ear
listening to any call of the hour from behind should ever such occasions
arise. We all might still need your guidance every often and we do
earnestly expect your timely help during such times in future.

Best wishes,
Viswaprabha.




On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 12:21, Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:09 AM Suyash Dwivedi <
> suyash.dwiv...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>
>> प्रिय आपकी इस सूचना से मैं हतप्रभ हूं, आपके द्वारा किए गए सभी कार्य
>> अत्यंत सराहनीय है, हमारे संबंध व्यावसायिक ना होकर मित्रता के हैं.  मैं आशा
>> करता हूं भविष्य में जिस भी संस्थान से आप जुड़ेंगे इसी प्रकार अपनी
>> कर्तव्यनिष्ठा से उसे आगे ले जाएंगे आपके द्वारा दिए गए हर प्रकार के सहयोग के
>> लिए मैं और हम सभी मित्र आपके आभारी हैं आपके सुखद एवं सफल भविष्य की
>> शुभकामनाओं सहित
>> आपका
>> सुयश द्विवेदी
>>
>> Regards,
>> Suyash Dwivedi
>> (U:Suyash.dwivedi)
>> sent via mobile please consider any typos
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 11:56 PM Tanveer Hasan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Wikimedians and Friends,
>>>
>>> I am writing to inform all of you that I will be stepping down as Senior
>>> Program Manager of  Access to Knowledge (A2K Team) at The Centre for
>>> Internet and Society, Bangalore on 31 August, 2018.
>>>
>>> It has been an honour to have worked with amazing Wikimedians during my
>>> time with the A2K team. I have learnt immensely during my interactions with
>>> Wikimedians, WMIN members and the WMIN EC, various user groups and WMF
>>> staff.
>>>
>>> The last three and half years have been an amazing experience and have
>>> helped me grow intellectually and I have been lucky to make friends for
>>> life. I wish to thank all the Wikimedians for their questions, feedback,
>>> advice and ideas. I also thank WMIN and User Groups and Partner
>>> Institutions for their unflinching support during this time.
>>>
>>> I request all of you to extend your support to the A2K team for the
>>> current plan year and for activities that shall be proposed in the upcoming
>>> plan as well. I would also like to take this opportunity to apologise for
>>> any inconvenience that I might have caused during my time at CIS-A2K.
>>>
>>> I will continue to be associated with the A2K team as an advisor. I
>>> would love to be in touch and be of any help that I can, please feel
>>> free to write to me on 'hasanrememb...@gmail.com'.
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Satdeep Gill joining WMF New Reader's program

2017-11-13 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Congratulations, Satdeep!


On 13 November 2017 at 23:11, Mourya Biswas  wrote:

> Congratulations Satdeep! Wish you the best!
>
> ১৩ নভেম্বর, ২০১৭ ২২:০৪ এ, "Sanket Oswal"  লিখেছেন:
>
> Congrats Satdeep!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sanket
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
>> kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice to hear this.
>>>
>>> Congrats Satdeep!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> [image: photo]
>>> *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga*
>>> Member | Executive Committee
>>> 
>>> Wikimedia Chapter (India) 
>>> +91 94948 65420 | kcvelaga.blogspot.in
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Parul  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Anne for sharing!

 Congrats Satdeep! Feel free to reach out to the community if you need
 any help.

 On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 at 7:24 PM, Tito Dutta  wrote:

> Excellent news. Congrats Satdeep.
>
> Thanks Anne for the heads up.
>
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to
> remind me over email or phone call.
>
> On 12 October 2017 at 00:11, Anne Gomez  wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> My name is Anne Gomez
>> , and I'm a
>> senior program manager at the Wikimedia Foundation working on the New
>> Readers program. We're working to bring more readers to Wikipedia,
>> primarily in India, Nigeria, and Mexico. Learn more about the program on
>> meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers
>>
>>
>> I'm excited to announce that Satdeep Gill
>>  will be joining
>> the team as our Community Outreach Coordinator for India. We know that 
>> it's
>> critical to partner with you on our projects and support yours.
>> Satdeep will work closely with the New Readers team, including Ravi
>> Ayyakkannu ,
>> to make sure that you are informed of what we're working on and how we 
>> can
>> work together.
>>
>>
>> Satdeep has been in the Wikimedia world for a long time and in many
>> roles, starting with editing Wikipedia in 2009. He is a key member of the
>> Punjabi community and served as the program leader for the WikiConference
>> India. Most recently, he was working as a Strategy Coordinator for the
>> Wikimedia movement strategy to facilitate discussion with Hindi 
>> Wikimedians.
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions about New Readers, please reach out to me,
>> Satdeep, or Ravi. We're excited to work with you :D
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anne
>>
>> --
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>> 
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>>
>>
>> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
>> in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate
>> . *
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SAARC meetup at Wikimedia Diversity Conference, Stockholm

2017-11-11 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Thank you Netha!

May I request all stakeholders from every communities, particularly Indic /
SAARC and affiliate organizations to join this thread and initiate a
valuable discussion.

Regards,
Viswaprabha



On 11 November 2017 at 22:26, Netha Hussain  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> A SAARC meetup was organized during Wikimedia Diversity Conference on 3
> November, 2017. Eight people attended the meetup and discussed about
> increasing diversity in SAARC context.
>
> During the meetup, all participants agreed to the need for creating and
> enforcing friendly space policies in Indic language Wikimedia projects. One
> of the suggestions was to create a diversity mailing list and a Safety team
> for SAARC countries. Discussion notes from the meetup can be found on
> etherpad here
> .
>
>
> Wikimedia Diversity Conference
>  was
> a 3-day event for furthering Wikimedia’s strategic mission of increasing
> diversity in our movement. Documentation notes from the diversity
> conference can be found here
> .
>
>
>
> Regards
> Netha
>
> --
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> Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology
> University of Gothenburg, Sweden
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] New portal on Wikidata: Wikidata:WikiProject India

2017-09-08 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Wikimedians,

As the month long country-wide Wikidata Training Tour by Asaf Bartov [*1]
is in progress through several communities and cities within India, the
term 'Wikidata' has started rolling out as a new technology buzzword among
Indian communities and media.
Choosing the occasion as most befitting, some of us have opened up a new
WikiProject portal on the Wikidata site, named  WikiProject India.

The page link is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_India.

This WikiProject is to coordinate the efforts to create, enhance and
populate the coverage of topics related to India including her history,
geography, culture, society, people, infrastructure, education,
demographics and anything related between India and other fields such as
science, technology, arts, entertainment etc.


For now, an indicative list of topics of immediate interest are mentioned
in the homepage. As the project grow up and get better shape, we can expand
the scope of the project both vertically and horizontally.

A query library demonstrating some data drilling methods and samples is
also available there. Together, we can also build up this library to its
best form and beauty.

An inspiring model to this venture was WikiProject Armenia (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Armenia), which began
around a year ago. We may fork and develop upon some of the work show-cased
there, including the model queries.
(Building new queries based upon these are quite easy even for a beginner!)

I invite all of you too visit the project homepage.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_India


Are you interested to be among the pioneers of this project?
Do you want to be part of a team that will build up a great national
database that will eventually help at least one fifth of the world
population  in  so many ways that we can not even predict now?

If you do, if you are interested in editing and contributing to Wikidata,
then please sign up and join the project.


More questions and suggestions are welcome at the project's talk pages.

Thanks and regards,

User:Viswaprabha


*1 . Asaf's Indian path of Wikidata conquest can be seen here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)/2017_Technical_trainings_in_India
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] YAGO open source

2017-09-04 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

-- Forwarded message --
From: Thomas Pellissier Tanon 
Date: 4 September 2017 at 15:25
Subject: [Wikidata] YAGO open source
To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." <
wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org>, wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: "Fabian M. Suchanek" 

[On behalf of the YAGO team]

Dear Wikidata community,

YAGO is a large general-purpose knowledge base derived from Wikipedia
and other sources. It contains more than 10 million entities (like
persons, organizations, cities, etc.) and more than 120 million
facts about these entities. It also contains time and space information,
and unifies data from Wikipedias in 11 languages. YAGO is available for
free at https://yago-knowledge.org

We are happy to announce that the source code of YAGO is now available
as well as open source under the GPL v3 license. This allows everybody
to use the extraction code, and also to contribute to YAGO.
Please find the GitHub link here: https://github.com/yago-naga/yago3

We are very grateful for the work of the Wikimedia community (including
Wikipedia and Wikidata), and we hope that our project can be of use.

Sincerely,

the YAGO team
at the Max Planck Institute for Informatics
and Télécom ParisTech University
http://yago-knowledge.org

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] Verification and approval of candidates.

2017-04-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Sudhanwa,

Greetings!



>From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf

B. Voter’s List:
> 1. The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
> i. Individual Members
> ii. Institutional Members
> 2. Provided:-
> *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the
> AGM/Election day shall*
> *form the eligible voters list.*
> 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of
> the Society at least
> twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises (if
> some other
> Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for
> inspection of Voters
> 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not
> transferable. For Institutional
> members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
>

-ViswaPrabha
(Viswanathan Prabhakaran)
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] Rescheduling of Wikimedia India elections to 30th April 2017

2017-04-11 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Certainly it is registered under Karnataka Act. However, I am not very sure
about the exact lines where it is mentioned (or not mentioned). The postal
ballots are adapted as per the best advice of our legal consultant in order
to avoid any issues should there be any disputes later during the course of
the newly elected board.

Moreover, sadly, we are not yet a Non-profit Organizsation officially.

-Viswam


On 12 April 2017 at 07:41, Abhinav srivastava <abhinav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Vishwa,
>
> Just for the information sake, could you let me know where is it mentioned.
>
> Secondly, chapter is registered under Karnataka Societies Registration Act
> 1960. It has nothing to do with Companies Act 1956 or 2013( with
> amendments) considering it is not a for profit organisation.
>
> I tried reading the bare act long time back but couldn't find anything.
>
> On 12 Apr 2017 03:42, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" <viswapra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The issue is not exactly technology, but the legal compliance according
>> to the current framework as stipulated by the company law etc.
>> We have pondered upon and tried this much important possible alternative
>> even before. But it was not possible.
>> The law requires paper ballot evidence for future records. (Although it
>> may look ridiculously obsolete).
>>
>> -ViswaPrabha
>>
>> On 11 April 2017 at 21:05, Tony Thomas <01tonytho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Team,
>>>
>>> Just my opinion but I think the community should invest in some
>>> failproof and Open Source online election/voting management system so that
>>> the entire process scale transparently. There are couple of solutions
>>> available online, but I havent personally checked its credibility - so
>>> sadly I cannot comment on it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tony Thomas <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:01tonythomas>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Yohann Thomas <yohan...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forwarding from wmin mailing list
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: Abhijeet Safai <abhijeet.sa...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:28 PM
>>>> Subject: [WMIN-Members] Rescheduling of Wikimedia India elections to
>>>> 30th April 2017
>>>> To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikime
>>>> dia.org>, wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Cc: EC Wikimedia India <wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org>, Lu
>>>> Kishore AnnamThyagraraja Wiki <annamthyagarajakish...@gmail.com>,
>>>> Yogesh <csyog...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Greetings!
>>>>
>>>> As you are all aware, in the Wikimedia India elections 2016 for all the
>>>> 7 executive committee seats, there are almost 200 members in the voters
>>>> list. Due to this huge number, it took more time than expected to prepare
>>>> ballot papers this time. As a result election committee eventually could
>>>> only send all the ballot papers on last Saturday (8th April 2017).
>>>>
>>>> In order to have more time for all members to send back the papers,
>>>> election committee has decided to re-schedule the Elections and annual
>>>> general meeting from 30th April 2017, instead of 23rd April 2017. This
>>>> decision has been taken so that everyone gets enough time to send back
>>>> their ballot papers.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> Election Committee
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Abhijeet Safai
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> with no direct control over the Wikipedia project and other websites hosted
>>>> by the Wikimedia Foundation, USA.
>>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] Rescheduling of Wikimedia India elections to 30th April 2017

2017-04-11 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

The issue is not exactly technology, but the legal compliance according to
the current framework as stipulated by the company law etc.
We have pondered upon and tried this much important possible alternative
even before. But it was not possible.
The law requires paper ballot evidence for future records. (Although it may
look ridiculously obsolete).

-ViswaPrabha

On 11 April 2017 at 21:05, Tony Thomas <01tonytho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Team,
>
> Just my opinion but I think the community should invest in some failproof
> and Open Source online election/voting management system so that the entire
> process scale transparently. There are couple of solutions available
> online, but I havent personally checked its credibility - so sadly I cannot
> comment on it.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony Thomas 
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
>
>>
>> Forwarding from wmin mailing list
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Abhijeet Safai 
>> Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:28 PM
>> Subject: [WMIN-Members] Rescheduling of Wikimedia India elections to 30th
>> April 2017
>> To: Wikimedia India Community list ,
>> wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: EC Wikimedia India , Lu
>> Kishore AnnamThyagraraja Wiki , Yogesh
>> 
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> As you are all aware, in the Wikimedia India elections 2016 for all the 7
>> executive committee seats, there are almost 200 members in the voters list.
>> Due to this huge number, it took more time than expected to prepare ballot
>> papers this time. As a result election committee eventually could only send
>> all the ballot papers on last Saturday (8th April 2017).
>>
>> In order to have more time for all members to send back the papers,
>> election committee has decided to re-schedule the Elections and annual
>> general meeting from 30th April 2017, instead of 23rd April 2017. This
>> decision has been taken so that everyone gets enough time to send back
>> their ballot papers.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Election Committee
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Abhijeet Safai
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer: The Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) is an autonomous entity
>> with no direct control over the Wikipedia project and other websites hosted
>> by the Wikimedia Foundation, USA.
>>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] The PEG Draft for WCI2016 is now open! Please verify and endorse!

2016-04-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Wikimedians on the list,

1. The PEG application has been completed. Its status has been updated from
'draft' to 'open'. That means now the application is due for vetting and
consideration by the Grant approval committee.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Satdeep_Gill/WikiConference_India_2016

However, it will be greatly helpful for the grant to get approved promptly
if more of us could go through it and check its correctness and accuracy.
If anyone finds any kind of discrepancies, please let me or Satdeep Gill
know of the same at the earliest.
*Everyone is also welcome to endorse the application by signing up with
their  Wikiuser ID in the section at the bottom of the grant request.*


2. IMHO, our mutual communications, brain storming and pro-active
engagement in the WCI2016 program needs to improve quite a lot. Please
start discussing about the event and also share your ideas about how the
conference should be held, mainly through this list. We have now several
channels being used for WCI discussions. (This mail list, metawiki, the
main India mail list, Facebook etc.). It will be much more effective and
stimulating if we all ensure a single channel for continued interactions.

Preferably, this very mail list and the metawiki page (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016) together should
be treated as the official channel for communications as it will always
help us keep the record of every single and small turn of events,
activities and decision making.
So,
a) please ask your other wiki users and volunteers to join the list
immediately.
b) please get engaged in the efforts to make WCI2016 a grand success.

To join the Wikimedia India Conference mail list, please visit
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india


Thanks,
Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] A Joint statement on collaboration between WMIN and CIS-A2K

2015-03-05 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Way to go!
Congratulations, both CIS-A2K and WMIN for continuing to keep the momentum
we are slowly building up.

On 6 March 2015 at 00:23, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:

Bengaluru

March 4, 2015

A Joint statement on collaboration between WMIN and CIS-A2K

Representatives from WMIN and CIS-A2K met during the Train the Trainer
Workshop that was held in Bengaluru on February 28, 2015.

The meeting was productive and paves the way for a long lasting
partnership between the two organizations. It was decided in the meeting
that WMIN and CIS-A2K teams shall work closely and contribute to each
other’s activities and growth. Following are the points towards
collaborative engagement that WMIN and CIS-A2K will work towards:

CIS-A2K and WMIN will revive quarterly team hangouts to enable better
communication and coordination between them. The meeting that happened on
February 28th, 2015 is the first in this series of regular meetings
planned.
-

As a first step to signal the collaborative nature of WMIN and
CIS-A2K, we will sign a joint MoU with a leading academic institution that
will provide access to many language computing tools including OCR. We are
already at an advanced stage of discussion.
-

WMIN will work together with CIS-A2K for conducting the proposed MediaWiki
TTT in May 2015.
-

Setting up a public calendar to keep all communities, CIS-A2K and WMIN
informed about various movement related activities and events.
-

A strategy will be put in place to revive the Bengaluru Wiki Community
meetups which were very active in the past. This will be a community led
initiative facilitated by CIS-A2K and WMIN.
-

The synergy between the two organizations will also extend beyond
Wikimedia domain. For example, close coordination will be seen in Creative
Commons India related activities.
-

CIS-A2K team will be working closely with the WMIN team towards
developing its next round of FDC proposal.
-

Both CIS-A2K and WMIN acknowledge the role of India Community
Consultation 2014 facilitated by WMF that paved the way for better
understanding between the organizations.

We plan to keep the community updated about the progress on these
agreements. We will also inform when new activities are planned.

We kindly request the community to extend their support for these
initiatives.

Thanks.

Released on behalf of Wikimedia India and CIS-A2K.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Veteran Malayalam Wikipedian BabuG signed off...

2015-03-05 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Wikimedians all over the world,

One of our stalwarts at ml Wikimedia community, Wikiuser:BabuG
https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Babug (
https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Babug)  expired yesterday night.

Despite having paralyzed due to a severe stroke and severely affected by
several subsequent health problems, he was guided to Wikipedia by his son,
Dr. Ajay, another prominent Malayalam Wikipedian, as a possible remedy to
escape perpetual loneliness.

His real world name was G. Balachandran.He was born on 14th October 1938 in
a small village off North Parur, Ernakulam District, Kerala, the
Southernmost state of India.He  joined the Armed Forces Engineering College
and then continued to serve the Indian Armed forces for long many years.

He started contributing to Wikimedia, particularly to Malayalam Wikipedia,
in the year 2008.

His initial contributions to Malayalam Wikipedia were based upon a
pulp-converted digital Encyclopedia, released by the Government through
GFDL licence then.  He continued to create even more full-featured articles
on his own, later. By 2014 October 18 - the day he edited last in
Wikipedia- he had 1935 full-blown articles initiated and expanded by
himself in ml.wikipedia.org. Besides, he also contributed more than 350
images to Wikimedia commons and a handsome  amount of contributions to
Wikisource, Wikidata and Wiktionary.

He always attributed his renewed energy and life's aspirations to the
Wikimedia mission, for having returned to a meaningful life after a 20-year
long and frustrating solitude while constrained to an immobile chair. Ever
since 2008, he stood up and started walking and moving around. His was an
extreme example for us in Malayalam WP to showcase how Wikipedia can change
lives.

In almost all our Wikipedia Outreach sessions, we utilized this great
example to motivate and excite the newcomers to WP.

Tory Read mentioned about BabuG thus, in a document
http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/india-chronicles.pdf, a  review
on the state of Indian Wikimedia Communities, in 2011:

G. Balachandran, a septuagenarian who lives outside of Ernakulum in Kerala
 state, said that working on Malayalam Wikipedia helped him recover after a
 stroke left him paralyzed. “He’s much sharper now,” said his wife Jagadamma
 K. “He’s made a lot of new friends, and that’s been good for his health.”


For us in Malayalam Wikipedia, today is a black day, for having lost a
great beacon on our voyage to ultimate openness and freedom in knowledge
and wisdom.


Yet, we feel, BabuG has made his life stamped immortal for ever and has
shown us the pathway we should follow in continuing our humble
contributions to the ultimate cause of mankind.


-ViswaPrabha
(On behalf of Malayalam Wikimedia Community)
http://ml.wikipedia.org
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Engineering Community

2015-02-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

+1 Manoj Khurana.

I have expressed and stressed upon this very serious issue during the
ICC-2014.
To say it rather harshly, 'Wikipedia (read:it's interface as perceived by
average Indian) is obsolete'.
:(

-Viswam


On 12 February 2015 at 06:59, Manoj Khurana he...@manojkhurana.com wrote:

 Hello Asaf,
 I'm Manoj. I contribute mainly on Hindi wiki. Regarding software issues I
 had one suggestion since the very beginning ( i joined actively in Aug-13).

 In India, internet connectivity is very poor in semi urban and rural areas
 which has long kept 70% of Indian population away from Internet. Starting
 from last 2-3 years this is changing very rapidly thanks to smartphone
 revolution. Presently we have millions (soon it may be billion) of
 smartphones, primarily Android, in hands of rural young indians. So need of
 the hour is to work more on android app which is mostly designed for
 viewing rather than editing. In this direction software team still has
 miles to go. And I can bet this is the future of wiki, especially in India.
 If this issue is not handled NOW, it may be late to attract new generation.

 We must also try to convince phone manufacturers and marketers to  bundle
 Wiki english and Indian languages wiki to be available as pre-installed
 apps on their phones. For them it will be an additional selling point.

 Thanks.

 Manoj.
 Chandigarh, India.
 On Feb 12, 2015 3:27 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 This is a significant shift in Engineering processes at the Wikimedia
 Foundation.  I want to make sure it reaches people not subscribed to
 Wikimedia-l or wikitech-l.

A.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Damon Sicore dsic...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Engineering Community
 To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org



 Dear Wikimedians,

 We are changing our engineering processes to improve how we engage with
 you -- our valued contributors and editors -- around software development.

 We are beginning with the collaborative buildout and deployment of
 VisualEditor. We are moving community engagement processes and product
 decisions into earlier stages of development, and making them iterative. In
 a perfect world this process would start prior to feature development, but
 in this case VisualEditor is already in-flight, so your participation now
 is critical. With your participation, we can work together to ensure this
 new process works.

 In this new process, we commit to:

 • Collectively identify success criteria for each target audience, from
 new editors (simple feature set) to expert editors (complex feature set).
 • Ensure success criteria represents the quantified and qualified goals.
 The feature will only be shipped when the success criteria is met.
 • Enable the feature for only portions of specific audiences that would
 best benefit (a process known as “incremental roll-out”) at a time.
 • Triage and prioritize all bugs and feature requests on a weekly basis
 to ensure they are addressed in a timely fashion. Publicly post responses,
 assessment, and target implementations. This will replace the RFP process
 and ensure we are tracking on all requested features efficiently.

 How you can engage:

 • Report bugs or enhancement requests in Phabricator:
 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/visualeditor/
 • Join any of the weekly triage meetings to nominate a release blocker.
 Please see the instructions at:
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor/Portal
 • Participate in development. You can find the team on IRC in the
 #mediawiki-visualeditor channel on irc.freenode.net.

 We are excited to get this long-standing feature to the level of quality
 and success we all want and need. It is a collective effort. You are not
 only a stakeholder, but an active contributor in this work. We want to all
 to be proud of the outcome. Please participate now.

 All my best,

 Damon


 —
 Damon Sicore
 VP of Engineering
 Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Scanner machine

2014-11-26 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear all,
I have had a great breakthrough in large scale book scanning with a good
camera-phone just a few days back. Will elaborate on this within a few days
as soon as settle down back home.

Thanks.
:)


On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Tito,

 After reading what you intend to do with the scanner, I think you can do a
 pretty job scanning documents using a phone camera with good quality
 instead. Besides, it won't be difficult to carry around - it'll just be in
 your pocket

 I, for instance, scan documents using my phone, which fortunately, has 20
 megapixel. I use the software called Camscanner[1] which works well on
 Android. It allows converting your scanning into PDF and other formats for
 safe keeping.

 Of course you don't need a 20 megapixel camera to scan documents.
 Somewhere 8 to 12 megapixel is enough to get HD quality of documents, if
 that's what you're aiming for.

 Though not scanning,[2] I could get some nice pictures with just with my
 phone, just to show that, with careful orientation, you can scan, even
 better documents with your phone

 [1] https://www.camscanner.com/
 [2]
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iziko_sang_Malangatana_Valante_Ngwenya.jpg

 Just my suggestion.

 rex


 On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu 
 ravidre...@wikimedia.in wrote:

 Hi Vishnu, Shyamal

 Thanks for sharing suggestions.

 Hi Tito,

 Please place your request as explained at

 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Infrastructure_Scholarship

 We will take it forward from there ASAP.

 Ravi



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN Executive committee elections 2014 announcement

2014-10-20 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Praveenp,

With all due respects to you as one of the most contributing and persistent
Wikipedian (I must say probably the staunchest of the backbones of
Malayalam Wikipedia), I must now respond here as a member of the WMIN
Executive Committee, a colleague at ml.wikipedia  as well as a good friend
of both of you..

Despite whatever personal issues between you and Anivar, I can vouch that
Anivar too have been contributing to the Wikimedia causes in his own ways
for some time now. You may not see it through the number of edits or such
statistics, but his timely involvement in many events and projects have
also helped Malayalam Wikisource to stand where it is now. Apart from that,
he has been taking an active and serious interest in the Chapter's mission.

Anivar, Pavithra and DB Srinivasa Rao were selected as the Election
Committee (EleCom) via a very proper protocol by the Executive Committee. *It
was the EC who solicited their help and willingness to be members of the
Election Committee at a time when few were even willing to be members of
the chapter.* Their selection as Election Committee was done even much
before the new (restructured) EC came into form. The then EC had
unanimously passed the resolution to appoint the EleCom without any
conflicts among themselves.

As far as the Wikimedia India Chapter is concerned, our interest in
people's individual issues and relations are clearly limited to the
Chapter's affairs. As I see it, being a member of the EleCom has nothing
much to do with how one may be active or inactive in a rather unrelated
domain, as long as one delivers the performance assumed and expected of his
capacity in the right degree.

I sincerely believe that the history of piques between you and Anivar has
nothing to do with the conducting of WMIN elections in a free and fair
manner. The Chapter would rather concentrate on much more pressing tasks
for which our resources are still running bit of a short as of now.

It is embarrassing to have to respond to such messages (that should be of
interest in scope, to only the Chapter circles), at this honorable list,
being primarily an open mail list for Indian Wikimedia projects. In the
first place, that the announcement is also copied on to this list was
purely with an intention to make as many Chapter members as possible.to be
aware of the upcoming elections. Beyond that, anyone is welcome to ponder
upon further affairs at the chapter's wiki itself, with a record and
history.

I also take this opportunity to urge Praveen and others to take a more
long-standing interest in the chapter, be an active member there and get
more involved from within, so that we can have even better qualified people
to select from. It really makes a difference when you are inside the system.

May I take that this discussion is now concluded with this message.

:-)

With love to all and malice towards none,
Viswam



On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14/10/2014, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote:
  Was not it only an announcement?

 I am really sorry, but I really had to disrupt such an announcement
 because Sri Anivar uses every such announcement  as an opportunity to
 bypass any allegations against him, and also most of the times  he
 gets titles like returning officer without any real activity or
 contributions. And I know  because of my past experience that probably
 he will do it again and agian, escaping any answering anywhere.

 

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

2014-10-09 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

+1 Srikanth Ramakrishnan

The ISO 8601 format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 for date too
corresponds to the same above (-MM-DD) format.

Real advantages of this format are (1) Non-ambiguity, (2) Correct sort
order even when data is processed as pure text and (3) international
consistency

Certainly, this is one of the subset of CLDR too.

I suggest all Wikimedia projects should have this format as default, but
again, customizable per user preferences.

-Viswam



On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know
 that on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date
 format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be
 relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it.
 Cheerio.
  On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
 In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
 India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
 cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
 simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
 pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
 This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
 logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.

 Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
 could be taken up for implementation.
 Regards
 -Sudhanwa


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined
 as
  the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
  http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
 
  Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
  Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati
 Wikipedia), but
  some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is
 UTC. So
  for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource,
 then
  the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it
 will be
  UTC.
 
  I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
  timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
  added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each
 site's
  community.
 
  If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia
 uses
  the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up
 for
  community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to
 change
  it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).
 
  If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea
 how
  to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.
 
  Thank you!
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Elections Project

2014-09-16 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Gerard,
I just got bumped with a tremendously large bundle of urgent and important
tasks. Hence the prolonged silence.

Just as we discussed about the Calenders and transportation data, we could
use some efficient methods on this database too. Unfortunately, it will
take some time for me to join this fantastic, simple but highly efficient,
effort. In the meanwhile, you may share the essaince of what we discussed
together, with our fellow-contributors here like Manoj Khurana etc.

Regards,
Viswaprabha

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hoi,
A post script; I just noticed that Post Bahadur Bogati died. He was a
Nepalese politician. As a result I am currently adding Members of the
Nepalese Constituent Assembly.
Thanks,
GerardM

https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=18056060
https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=18056060

On 16 September 2014 08:13, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hoi,
As you know all articles about the same subject are connected on
Wikidata. Regularly I add information about members of the Lok Sabha and
the Vidhan Sabha on Wikidata. The most prevalent reason for me is for
someone to die. When I notice that he or she was a member of one of those
parliaments I add this fact typically on the basis of the category that
indicates this. At the same time I add information for all the members of
that parliament in Wikidata.

Because of this mail I did this for Maharashtra, Himachal and Uttarkhand.

When the Hindi, Punjabi or Marathi Wikipedia have categories that include
the members of a parliament, it is fairly easy to add all the humans who
are mentioned in this category.. Human in the sense of Wikidata.. There is
no secret sauce; I use Autolist2 to do this and, I have documented my way
of working [1].

What would be good is to copy the data that is currently in Excel
spreadsheets into Wikidata. It makes that information available for
everyone. It will show up in the Reasonator. This [2] is the category for
the Uttarkhand parliamentarians for instance.. only 17 of them at this time.
Thanks,
GerardM

[1]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/08/wikidata-my-workflow-enriching-wikidata.html
[2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=18055681
https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=18055681

On 16 September 2014 04:32, Manoj Khurana he...@manojkhurana.com wrote:

Hello.
At Hindi wiki, we started a project on Indian
Elections-[[:hi:वि:विभाचु]]. we are systematically creating all lok sabha n
vidhan sabha pages. we are collecting data and arranging them
systematically in excel sheets. Excel Sheets and AWB scripts are placed at
project page (in both english n hindi). We wish all language would take
benefit from work done by us. Punjabi wiki has also joined us and already
helped us in return too. we wish all wikis could run this project and
prepare Excel Data n AWB Script for each region and share with each other.
e.g. for upcoming Maharashtra Elections Marathi Wiki may take the lead.
Presently complete data is available at hiwiki for Himachal and
Uttarakhand assemblies. I checked and found that these pages are not yet
available even on English wiki. (at last n at least, something where hiwiki
has taken lead :-) ). Anyone having AWB rights on enwiki may please take
this foward.

I hereby once again invite all to participate in this project. Also, on
hiwiki, the main person who stared this project is a little inactive
presently. I would be thankful if anyone of you can help us on Hindi Wiki
also.
Thanks and Regards.
Manoj Khurana.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Who is moderating India Mailing list ?

2014-09-15 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

With sufficient evidences, as apparent as they seem to be, I must introduce
this issue to you all.

The India mailing list is controlled by a few people, of whom no one ever
was thinking evil. However, it is time to review and see who really
controls this mail list!

I request all recipients to wake up and ask the same questions:

1. Who all control the mail list and moderate it?
2. What has been the criteria of their selection? How long they should
remain as administrators to the list?
3. Why should mails go selectively passed and selectively discarded?
4. How come very stale mail messages come after almost a month, just when
they could significantly be more relevant  (or more damaging a particular
positive cause) with a changed /new scenario?


I propose few more 'acceptable' members are added to the admin list. And
even to get rid of people whom the general community does not probably
trust any more.

We don't want any more vicious infestations to damage the 'India' context
of Wikimedia cause.

-Viswam
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Presentation @ CDOT

2014-09-15 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Thank you for your kind report, Radhakrishna.

Signed on 15th September.
Viswa



On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:08 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally 
radhakrishna.arvapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,


 On 23rd Monday, we got Invite from CDOT for giving a wikimedia
 presentation on 27th Friday @ CDOT, Bangalore. (Thanks to Dr.YVS Lakshmi,
 for Initiating this)

 I quickly reached out Bangalore Wikimedians and Carolynne Schloeder (as
 Carolynne would be in Bangalore on that day).

 Myself and Carolynne gave presentation @ CDOT.
 We were happy to see very positive response from audience.

 some photos attached.

 https://www.facebook.com/radhakrishna.arvapally/posts/10152578792544516

 --
 Thanks  Regards,
 A.Radha Krishna
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

2014-09-14 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear all,

Kindly see this page on the public wiki
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Announcements/2014-2015#Wikimedia_India_Chapter_restructures_its_director_board
of Wikimedia India Chapter announcing the newly reconstituted Director
Board.

As a matter of self-discipline, Wikimedia India Chapter will try to abstain
from discussions on its own internal affairs in this forum / mail list to
the maximum possible extend.
Everyone is welcome to inquire and discuss any topics related to the
chapter on appropriate pages or talk pages within the public wiki of the
chapter mentioned above. From the chapter, we assure you prompt and
responsible responses there, abiding by the very culture of Wikimedia
missions.

With regards,
Viswanathan Prabhakaran
Treasurer,
(On behalf of the Executive Committee)
Wikimedia India Chapter

viswapra...@wikimedia.in
Wikimedia user:viswaprabha

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear Srikanth,

Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
studying the MOA.

From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
reason.

It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)

Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
for the chapter.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:
To the remaining EC members,
This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.

1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
year,
ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
reinstate
membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
membership as
on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was the
first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week
of
July itself.

2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
second and third EC member loss out of seven.

3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and
void.

4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a
minimum
quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left
(Jayanta,
Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be
passed.

5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC
members
now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and ask
them
to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting and
elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.

6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
cannot take any decision at the moment.

P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put
in
a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve
hers
or any other new applications until elections are held. If an
administrator
is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator would have
the
power to approve new applications.

--
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
back.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

2014-09-13 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear All,
On behalf of the EC, I would wait for at least three senior members
(respectable to me) of this list to opine here if this mail qualifies for
a reply here in this exact forum or not. Until then, kindly avoid believing
in the contorted interpretations expressed in the same.

Thank you.

-Viswam

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

To the remaining EC members,
This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.

1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
year, ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
reinstate membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
membership as on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter.
This was the first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the
first week of July itself.

2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
second and third EC member loss out of seven.

4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a
minimum quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left
(Jayanta, Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can
be passed.

5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC
members now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and
ask them to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting
and elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.

6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
cannot take any decision at the moment.

P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put
in a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve
hers or any other new applications until elections are held. If an
administrator is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator
would have the power to approve new applications.

--
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
back.

Ab tak Chappan!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rsrikanth05/Project_56

Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore:

https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: WMIN shutdown ?

2014-09-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

I am resending  ( rather, re-attempting to send) an important reply mail
that  was sent to this mail list 10 hours back from my Wikimedia.in ID, for
your kind reading. *To my great shock, I realize now that, strangely that
mail never reached our mail-list!*

-- Forwarded message --
From: Viswanathan Prabhakaran viswapra...@wikimedia.in
Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?
To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Dear Srikanth and other readers,

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Viswa,
 Prior to the departure of several EC members,  resolution had been passed
 to accept the draft Coi policy that was done by me with Karthik's help.
 Please ensure that it is implemented.

A new draft is being prepared, (stemmed from your draft, thank you,
Srikanth), incorporating additional details conforming to international
standards for non-profit  organizations. Within a day or two, this draft
will be presented in the chapter Wiki for review, discussion  and
suggestions by any members (and even interested community members and other
stakeholders).

The draft will be retrieved back to the EC and will be finally vetted and
approved as a standard core document during the upcoming Board Meeting on
20,21 September 2014 at Bangalore.

Also, you mentioned a board meeting in September. Does this indicate the
 AGM or just the four core EC members.

The board meeting on 20,21 at Bangalore is a board meeting. It will take up
and decide on the matter of AGM / Elections in such a way as to conduct the
same at the earliest possible date,  as early as the stipulated timelines
and documentation requirements (mainly completion of Audit Report and
Annual Report) will allow. It will also review and decide on the voting
eligibility requirements of all chapter members who are members of the
chapter. Further, it will decide on several administrative policies, of
which, a major one will be the feasibility of enlistment of all members
(with bare minimum personal data) on the chapter wiki. Some of these
decisions will be acted upon immediately after the meeting.

The EC is also seriously corroborating on the feasibility of publishing
every minutes and resolutions passed during its business except for the
ones require confidential privacy.

In the meanwhile, we also intend to invite suggestions for modifications
and improvements in the bye-laws and other documents via discussions on the
member wiki. Such suggestions, will be finely filtered and drafted,
presented and voted upon during the AGM  and will be passed if approved by
a two third majority.

I say four because Nikita had not renewed her membership as of the first of
 July 2014 thus ceasing to be a member of the chapter let alone an EC
 member.

 You may kindly refer to the Bye-law regarding the norms on cessation and
reinstatement of membership.

Thank you,
Viswanathan Prabhakaran
Treasurer
Wikimedia Chapter

 Please look into these matters.
 On 11-Sep-2014 2:16 am, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear all,

 The newly restructured EC has held a telecon tonight (September 10th). We
 have decided to meet in person at Bangalore on 20,21  22 September 2014
 with a large number of tasks in hand.

 Due to several reasons, principally among them, a delay in the completion
 of Financial Audit Reports, we are forced to postpone the AGM and Elections
 by a few weeks, following the recommendation of our legal and financial
 consultants.

 The above board meeting, to be held in Bangalore, will corroborate and
 decide on the earliest possible date to conduct the AGM and General
 Elections considering all formal timeline constraints. We will also meet-up
 with the Election Committee, our legal and financial consultants and other
 concerned agencies.

 We are also about to present a few drafts at the Chapters wiki and invite
 amendments, modifications and improvements in our constitutional and policy
 documents. This will include a 'Conflict of Interest' policy, a basic
 framework on the formation of an Advisory committee, simplification of
 membership application processes, grant process, publication of necessary
 Membership data without compromising the privacy concerns etc.

 We will be releasing more detailed info along these lines within a few
 days. Till then, Please standby.

 Thank you

 Viswanathan Prabhakaran
 Treasurer
 Wikimedia India Chapter

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
 sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Anivar Aravind
 anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I am also surprised to see no reply.  Arjuna, do you have any further
  information?

  Update on Election commitee process on WMIN Elections is here
  http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014

 Any further updates

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: WMIN shutdown ?

2014-09-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Srikanth,

Please read the bye-laws once again and always quote from the bye-law in
exact verbatim.
For your convenience, here is a copy of the MoA:
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/images/2/20/ChapterRegDocsEnglish.pdf

I shall even direct you to the exact location for this particular clause:
It is at Article V, Section 2 (on page 8th of the whole 18 page PDF volume).

Also, please be careful so that such uneducated and precisely planned
doubts does not hit back at cases of your own (as well as Karthik's)
membership validity and cessation,   if not for any previous instances.


Thanks and regards,
Viswam

PS. BTW, why is it that my mails are not being transmitted through this
list? How do I know how long this may have been happening? Being one of the
administrators, you may have a clue. ;)



On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote:

 Viswa, I have read the bylaws. If a member does not renew before the grace
 period, in this case 30th of June, it becomes a new application. 10th July
 is not exactly within the grace period is it?
 On 12-Sep-2014 11:42 pm, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 I am resending  ( rather, re-attempting to send) an important reply mail
 that  was sent to this mail list 10 hours back from my Wikimedia.in ID, for
 your kind reading. *To my great shock, I realize now that, strangely
 that mail never reached our mail-list!*


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Viswanathan Prabhakaran viswapra...@wikimedia.in
 Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?
 To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org


 Dear Srikanth and other readers,

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Viswa,
 Prior to the departure of several EC members,  resolution had been
 passed to accept the draft Coi policy that was done by me with Karthik's
 help. Please ensure that it is implemented.


 A new draft is being prepared, (stemmed from your draft, thank you,
 Srikanth), incorporating additional details conforming to international
 standards for non-profit  organizations. Within a day or two, this draft
 will be presented in the chapter Wiki for review, discussion  and
 suggestions by any members (and even interested community members and other
 stakeholders).

 The draft will be retrieved back to the EC and will be finally vetted and
 approved as a standard core document during the upcoming Board Meeting on
 20,21 September 2014 at Bangalore.

 Also, you mentioned a board meeting in September. Does this indicate the
 AGM or just the four core EC members.

 The board meeting on 20,21 at Bangalore is a board meeting. It will take
 up and decide on the matter of AGM / Elections in such a way as to conduct
 the same at the earliest possible date,  as early as the stipulated
 timelines and documentation requirements (mainly completion of Audit Report
 and Annual Report) will allow. It will also review and decide on the voting
 eligibility requirements of all chapter members who are members of the
 chapter. Further, it will decide on several administrative policies, of
 which, a major one will be the feasibility of enlistment of all members
 (with bare minimum personal data) on the chapter wiki. Some of these
 decisions will be acted upon immediately after the meeting.

 The EC is also seriously corroborating on the feasibility of publishing
 every minutes and resolutions passed during its business except for the
 ones require confidential privacy.

 In the meanwhile, we also intend to invite suggestions for modifications
 and improvements in the bye-laws and other documents via discussions on the
 member wiki. Such suggestions, will be finely filtered and drafted,
 presented and voted upon during the AGM  and will be passed if approved by
 a two third majority.

 I say four because Nikita had not renewed her membership as of the first
 of July 2014 thus ceasing to be a member of the chapter let alone an EC
 member.

 You may kindly refer to the Bye-law regarding the norms on cessation and
 reinstatement of membership.


 Thank you,
 Viswanathan Prabhakaran
 Treasurer
 Wikimedia Chapter


 Please look into these matters.
 On 11-Sep-2014 2:16 am, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear all,

 The newly restructured EC has held a telecon tonight (September 10th).
 We have decided to meet in person at Bangalore on 20,21  22 September 2014
 with a large number of tasks in hand.

 Due to several reasons, principally among them, a delay in the
 completion of Financial Audit Reports, we are forced to postpone the AGM
 and Elections by a few weeks, following the recommendation of our legal and
 financial consultants.

 The above board meeting, to be held in Bangalore, will corroborate and
 decide on the earliest possible date to conduct the AGM and General
 Elections considering all formal timeline constraints

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?

2014-09-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear all,

The newly restructured EC has held a telecon tonight (September 10th). We
have decided to meet in person at Bangalore on 20,21  22 September 2014
with a large number of tasks in hand.

Due to several reasons, principally among them, a delay in the completion
of Financial Audit Reports, we are forced to postpone the AGM and Elections
by a few weeks, following the recommendation of our legal and financial
consultants.

The above board meeting, to be held in Bangalore, will corroborate and
decide on the earliest possible date to conduct the AGM and General
Elections considering all formal timeline constraints. We will also meet-up
with the Election Committee, our legal and financial consultants and other
concerned agencies.

We are also about to present a few drafts at the Chapters wiki and invite
amendments, modifications and improvements in our constitutional and policy
documents. This will include a 'Conflict of Interest' policy, a basic
framework on the formation of an Advisory committee, simplification of
membership application processes, grant process, publication of necessary
Membership data without compromising the privacy concerns etc.

We will be releasing more detailed info along these lines within a few
days. Till then, Please standby.

Thank you

Viswanathan Prabhakaran
Treasurer
Wikimedia India Chapter



On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Anivar Aravind
 anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am also surprised to see no reply.  Arjuna, do you have any further
  information?
 
 
  Update on Election commitee process on WMIN Elections is here
  http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014


 Any further updates?

 Regards
 -Sudhanwa


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Many user groups instead of One Chapter?

2014-09-06 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear all,

Having intensively spent more than two years within the chapter and many
more years within one of the better performing communities, I would like to
input a few points:

1. *Despite its being a single large political entity, India is a diverse
heterogeneous  amalgam of umpteen cultures, thought schools, social habits
and community pride.*

2. The one statement above is the prime point to be considered when any
sort of plans and road maps are drawn for missions like Wikimedia projects. *It
is very very important that everyone, both within India and outside,
realize this.*

3. Due to this, any plans should have two such perspectives:
 (1) an overall national outlook that will take care of legal and other
governance or assistance that is collectively beneficial to the entire
country; and
 (2) a view that ensures and focus on each community with due
considerations onto its own Strengths, Weaknesses,  Opportunities and
Threats.

4. A strong chapter (with a large number of members and strong
representation of the actual Wikimedia community volunteers) is a definite
instrument that can take care of the first goal.

The chapter can be strong only if it proves its value, worthiness, openness
and long term sustainability. The community should feel that the chapter is
not an authority over them, but only an assisting agency that is bound by
the might of the community at large and that does not cross its preset
limits towards the almost anarchic freedom the community enjoys.

5. However, own experience so far yields to me that despite the hard work
committed by many souls, the chapter has difficulty in (1) growing itself
up and (2) reaching out to the communities. Both these objectives are
mutually dependent and anything that can help either, will eventually help
and complement the other. In addition, every community member should be
able to develop trust and confidence in the chapter. This too, is an added
outcome of a large (populous) democracy.

6. Many user groups (each within a community of a particular language,
theme, interest, geography or occupation) is a very potential but missing
link.

User groups can exist and flourish in numbers and individual strength,  at
a layer that is just midway between the Chapter and Communities. [Chapters
have high legal and administrative bindings, procedural obligations etc.
but they also enjoy representative authority, financial and logistic
resources and structured organizational and professional  efficiency; On
the other hand, communities are, as always, wild, uncontrollable,
unpredictable and untameable, yet  innovative and 'working' on their own.
They are the real juice of the mission, with no doubt ever.]

7. So, in brief, according to the lessons as I have learnt so far,

In India, we must have ONE very strong, populous, democratically just,
self-sustained chapter and many User Groups supported and built by
individual communities from the bottom side as well as by the Chapter and /
or WMF and other entities from the topside.

8. The Chapter can find its own active, efficient and inevitable role,
acting as a national umbrella organization, coordinating and
interconnecting the User Groups, communities and discrete community
members, in addition to acting as a gateway between them and the higher ups
(say WMF, Government and other institutions).

9. What if there is no chapter?

The Chapter is needed. Without an umbrella organizations, different
communities may have different rates of growth. While one community may be
vibrant, self-sustaining and growing wonderfully, another feeble one may be
left unattended and die all by itself. The chapter can see to it that every
baby gets its milk, to the fill of the bottle it deserves.

The chapter is also the most efficient way to work on tasks of a national
scale. As a significant institution, it may be able to influence the
factors that decide the fate of knowledge empowerment and emanicipation in
future India.

10. Should we desist from forming User Groups?

No! The user groups can be much more fun, efficient, communicative and
motivating to the communities. The user groups must be promoted in every
way that is possible, but still with very careful and tactical, but
minimal  controls ensuring basic compliance for purposes of financial
freedom and other benefits. However, their numbers may be limited into
convenient degrees to ensure good balance between mutual freedom and
quantitative sustenance.

Thank you.

*Viswanathan Prabhakaran*
Independent user from Malayalam Wikimedia Community,
Also,
Treasurer,
Wikimedia India Chapter



On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Vikram Vincent vincentvik...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 On 3 September 2014 09:38, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It is perhaps worth considering a format of having multiple user groups
 model in India rather than having one central Wikimedia India Chapter.


 Having user groups which function democratically also ensures that the
 chapter

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian of the Month - 2014

2014-01-22 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Amidst the clutters and pangs of a serious final year professional degree
course, you are still doing it great, Netha!

Salutes to your relentless dutufulness!

-Viswam


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

  The Featured Wikimedian for January 2014 is Anirvan 
 Shuklahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anir1uphfrom English Wikipedia. 
 His profile can be viewed here :
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page

 Anirvan was nominated by Srikar 
 Kashyaphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Strike_Eagle(User: Strike Eagle) 
 for the Featured Wikimedian status. If you know an
 active Wikimedian who you think is eligible to be featured, please share
 their username with me. I will take a short interview from them and get
 their profile featured.

 Apologies for the delay in updating this month's profile. I've been very
 busy these days and I am finding it hard to update the featured profile
 during the start of the month. Now on, I am planning to update the profiles
 between day 10 and day 20 of every month, so that I can spend the first
 week of the month fighting real-life deadlines :-)

 Regards
 Netha





 --
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 Student of Medicine and Surgery
 Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode
 Blogs :
 *nethahussain.blogspot.com http://nethahussain.blogspot.com
 swethaambari.wordpress.com http://swethaambari.wordpress.com*


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Calendars in use in India

2014-01-15 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

A great topic, I am particularly interested in!

I have worked some solid 3-4 months to compute almost all calendars of
Indian traditions. Part of my ambition is to create a page in every Indian
Wiki for each year of the  CE era, along with the corresponding calendars
in each Indian almanacs. This will involve a lot of references, computation
and 'wiki'fication of which, the first two parts are almost completed.

Let me keep a track of this thread. May we even form up a small project
group on this?





On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As you doubt Gerard, though the month names are same or similar in
 different languages/cultures/calendars, months not always start and end at
 the same time. Mainly in soouthern calendars, including the Gujarati and
 Maharashtrian ones, months end on the New Moon day, while in Northern
 calendars, months end on the Full moon day. This difference really make
 months different, and thus many festivals though celebrated on the same day
 throughout India, are actually marked in different months on religious
 calendars.

 E.g. Janmashtami is Shravan Vad (or Krishna paksh) ashtami in Gujarati
 calendar, but in northern calendars, it is Bhadrapad krishnapaksh Ashtami.

 Also, Kartik or Kartak is the first month of year, while in other
 calendars, maharashtra and northern, Chaitra is the first month of year.

 Regards,
 Dhaval
 On 15 Jan 2014 08:57, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hoi,
 I blogged about calendars. The problem I face is that I am adding
 statements to the calendars in use in India.. I have worked on the Nepali
 and the Bengali calendar and, I find that in the English Wikipedia some
 months are merged into one article.

 What I want to know is if these months exactly are at the same time or
 not. Many calendars have special days. It would make sense to have an item
 for them as well. I assume that many of the Indian Wikipedias have articles
 for such events. It will help when they are known to be part of a specific
 calendar..

 Are there people who can help me with this ?
 Thanks,
   GerardM

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crosses 1000 total contributors milestone

2013-11-25 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Oh Tamil, Welcome to the coveted 1000+ users' club! :)

Be inspired and inspire others too!

Together we, all communities of India,  have a long way to go.

And we shall all walk hand in hand.

-Viswam




On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kudos to Tamil Wikipedian community!!

 Spread the Knowledge !!


 Yohann Thomas
 Wikipedia Club Pune
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

2013-10-31 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

+1 Arnav Sonara

Request we all close this thread for now. Thanks.
Smile everyone!



On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote:


 It shouldn't be like this. And let me tell you just one last thing,
 your attitude towards your work is not right.


 Well, let's just say this is little too harsh and out of context. As a
 community we shouldn't be the one deciding on his attitude towards his
 work. He is as enthusiastic as you are for the movement.


 And I don't want you guys to respond just because I'm asking for it.
 Thanks for your time.


 We should thank you that you pointed out some discrepancies to which CIS -
 A2K acted (or will act).



 PS: I don't intend to continue this, so feel free to ignore.

 Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

2013-10-27 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

It would be much effective if the same message is also broadcast to all
community village pumps as well as any social networking groups where
communities are gathering.
-Viswam


On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
arjunar...@gmail.comwrote:


 Vishnu,


 2013/10/25 Vishnu T visdav...@gmail.com

  The Centre for Internet and Society's Access to Knowledge (CIS-A2K)
 Program invites applications from experienced Wikimedia community members
 for a short-term assignment as a 'Community Communications Consultant'. The
 duration of this assignment is for 3 months. The consultant will work with
 the CIS-A2K team and report to the Program Director CIS-A2K.

  *Profile:*

 An ideal candidate should:

 a) have been a Wikimedian for more than a year.

 b) have good understanding of and contribution on Wikipedia, Wikisource,
 Wiktionary and Wikimedia Commons projects.

 c) have links with at least 5 Indian language Wikimedia community members

 --cut--


 I have not seen this being announced on the language wikis or  email
 lists. There may be people who may have most skills but may not be active
 on English mailing list and you may be missing them.

 Cheers
 Arjuna




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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Re: Few concerns

2013-09-25 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

 Yahoo! Mail for iPhone

  --
 * From: * ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com;
 * To: * Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.com; Wikimedia India Community
 list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
 * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
 * Sent: * Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:12:21 AM

 Did I read and understand that absolutely correctly!

 If so, this is a huge accusal!

 Please come to your senses before doing such horrendous accusations!

 I would never (or am or will be planning) to send any mail messages to ANY
 public (or private) lists other than from my own proven identities!!! TAKE
 IT FOR GRANTED!

 Indeed, your baseless and mean assumption calls for severe actions!

 -Viswam
 User:Viswaprabha




 On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 hi,

 this is with reference to this email -
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-September/010415.html,
 sent by Zakaas Zakaas. the text of the email was scrubbed as HTML. The
 content of the text is here -
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20130915/a6cebef4/attachment.html
  reproduced
 below:

 
 While the new ECs are still deciding the new office bearers, there are some 
 observations which are of serious concern. It is known fact that 
 Karthik(secratory) is employee of Moksha(president) and Pranav is 
 employee/consultant to Moksha/p

 In the true spirit of wikipedia, where transparancy is atmost important, and 
 conflict of interests are taken seriously, have thesebr /people given any 
 disclaimer about this information (employee, employer relationship) in 
 advancIt will be nice to know the concern people stand regarding this matter.

 It is interesting to note that while the author asks for transparency, he
 is not transparent himself. Let us assume that the alias is taken for the
 sake of revealing this truth. Unfortunately, just using the alias is
 insufficient, in my opinion. One must also be able to mask one's partiality
 to the language one uses for the mask to be complete.

 In this case, I can easily identify the author as Viswaprabha. He's the
 only person I know of who calls Moksh Moksha.

 Pradeep Mohandas
 How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns

2013-09-24 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Did I read and understand that absolutely correctly!

If so, this is a huge accusal!

Please come to your senses before doing such horrendous accusations!

I would never (or am or will be planning) to send any mail messages to ANY
public (or private) lists other than from my own proven identities!!! TAKE
IT FOR GRANTED!

Indeed, your baseless and mean assumption calls for severe actions!

-Viswam
User:Viswaprabha

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.comwrote:

hi,

this is with reference to this email -
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-September/010415.html,
sent by Zakaas Zakaas. the text of the email was scrubbed as HTML. The
content of the text is here -
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20130915/a6cebef4/attachment.html
reproduced
below:

While the new ECs are still deciding the new office bearers, there are some
observations which are of serious concern. It is known fact that
Karthik(secratory) is employee of Moksha(president) and Pranav is
employee/consultant to Moksha/p

In the true spirit of wikipedia, where transparancy is atmost important, and
conflict of interests are taken seriously, have thesebr /people given any
disclaimer about this information (employee, employer relationship) in
advancIt will be nice to know the concern people stand regarding this matter.

It is interesting to note that while the author asks for transparency, he
is not transparent himself. Let us assume that the alias is taken for the
sake of revealing this truth. Unfortunately, just using the alias is
insufficient, in my opinion. One must also be able to mask one's partiality
to the language one uses for the mask to be complete.

In this case, I can easily identify the author as Viswaprabha. He's the
only person I know of who calls Moksh Moksha.

Pradeep Mohandas
How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Dear Vickram,

Indeed, you seems to have registered as a new user in the Wikimedia Wiki.
However, in order to edit, one need to do just one more additional step:
Just confirm the email ID.

Immediately after registering, you would have received a confirmation
request mail in your registered e-mail. (Please also check the spam mail
folder).

Clicking on the link there will confirm your membership.
After that, you will be able to edit most pages of the chapter Wiki.

*The same applies to all new registrants on the chapter wikis.*

Thanks,
Viswam
User:viswaprabha
Member, EC
Wikimedia India Chapter.




On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Vickram Crishna
vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote:

 I did that, and returned to the page, but it did not allow me to edit.

 But as I said, it is not material to the process.

 --
 Vickram
 Fool On The Hill communicall.wordpress.com
  He's still watching me watching you watching ...
 And the way he stares - feel like locking my door

 and pulling my phone from the wall.
 His eyes, like lights from a laser, burn
 making my hair stand - making the goose-bumps crawl. 

 Jethro Tull: Watching Me Watching You (1982)

 On Sep 20, 2013 4:53 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did that, and returned to the page, but it did not allow me to edit.

 --
 Vickram
 Fool On The Hill communicall.wordpress.com
  He's still watching me watching you watching ...
 And the way he stares - feel like locking my door

 and pulling my phone from the wall.
 His eyes, like lights from a laser, burn
 making my hair stand - making the goose-bumps crawl. 

 Jethro Tull: Watching Me Watching You (1982)

 On Sep 20, 2013 3:43 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote:

 Hi Vickram,

 you need to register at the site to edit. Please create your account
 through this link:
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Special:UserLogintype=signupreturnto=Main+Page


 Regards,
 Karthik Nadar.
 Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in

 Participate in world's largest photo contest Wiki Loves Monuments:
 www.wikilovesmonuments.in


 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Vickram Crishna 
 vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

 I looked at the page some days ago, but for some reason it did not
 allow me to edit anything. On reflection, though, I did not find anything
 positive to suggest. I assume the monetisation of the projects is a
 separate exercise, and must confess I have not researched the purpose of
 this part of the planning.


 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pranav Curumsey 
 pra...@wikimedia.inwrote:

 Sure, you need not be a chapter member to comment. It is open to the
 community at large. Please add your comments with details on the page
 itself so everything is in one place.


 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Shyamal L. lshya...@gmail.comwrote:

 If I can make a suggestion as non-member of the chapter it might be
 useful to consider a plan to encourage India librarians and archivists to
 be active on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RX and respond
 to requests for literature - if librarians in India are motivated only by
 monetary inducement, the Chapter could also consider becoming a paid 
 member
 of a library services network within India (such as
 http://delnet.nic.in/ )and handle requests for literature aimed to
 improve content quality. If the latter service can be handled well, I 
 might
 even consider becoming a India chapter member!

 best wishes
 Shyamal



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] N A Nazeer's photographs

2013-08-31 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

It is very important to read this too along with the news:

The officials wanted to grab the photographs, but without any attributions
to the photographers themselves. As usual, these photos will later appear
in costly or otherwise Govt. publications, promptly and sacredly credited
to the photographers employed by the department of forests or tourism.

As for Wikimedia, we had our Wiki Vana Vijnjana Yatra, (Wiki Jungle
Expedition), conducted highly succesful, as part of Malayalam Wikipedia's
10th Anniversary in December 2012, just a few days before the order was
released. Most of those photographs are already in Wikimedia Commons.

It is only a matter of time, the Government officials realize that the true
guards of our bio-diversity are such amaeture / freelance photo'grabber's.

-ViswaPrabha

On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 7:35 PM, L. Shyamal lshya...@gmail.com wrote:

I was told some years ago that a forest minister had passed a rule that no
photography was to be allowed in any forest areas in Kerala. Any forest in
that including Reserve Forests, in which one is *even* allowed to graze
cattle, collect firewood and minor forest produce. I was just trying to
look up this and found a newspaper article on the topic. That ban was
apparently introduced because of a certain wildlife photographer refused to
provide photographs to the Kerala Forest Deparment for their use.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/wild-photography-ban-condemned/article4233888.ece

Reading that news again with fresh insight suggests that the wildlife
photographer in question was in fact N.A. Nazeer! Perhaps he or someone
ought to inform the Kerala Forest Department of Wikimedia Commons..

best wishes
Shyamal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shyamal

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Samkshepa Vedartham, first book printed in Malayalam goes online

2013-08-29 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Ashwin Baindur
ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 How about the links to Ml Wikisource for those who are curious please?


 For this work and related, bigger times are coming around soon.
So, please expect more links (to both the wikisource and media) very
shortly!

:-)
-ViswaPrabha
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Samkshepa Vedartham, first book printed in Malayalam goes online

2013-08-29 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ


 On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Amir E. Aharoni 
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Awesome!

 Did you have any challenges with digitizing the books? For example, are
 there any ancient Malayalam letters or symbols that were used in these
 books, but weren't available ib Unicode? Did you have any practical
 problems with the Wikisource software?


Dear Amir,

The second phase of digitization (i.e. to convert to text) is not yet done.
But like our usual method, this will be completed collectively (read
massively) and rapidly within a few days. We have divided the task among
our little typing army into manageable chunks.


However, phase 1 itself had quite some commendable experiences and hurdles.

During recent times, some of us, particularly, *Shiju Alex*, the well known
Malayalam / Indian Wikipedian, have been on a mission  to try and locate as
many volumes of Malayalam books printed ever until 1920s or so. Shiju came
to be aware of the Samkshepa vedartham(SV) copy remaining in the *Dharmaram
Seminary College Library in Bangalore*.

Our friend, (Malayalam Wikipedian) *Jeff Shawn*, an inmate of Dharmaram
Seminary College,  managed to get access to the book that was kept quite in
its own qualified shelter for more than two decades, thanks to a very
special and rare library heritage kind to both books and studious readers.

Thanks are due to *Father Thomas kuniyathodathth* and *Father Geo
Pallikkunnel*, being the responsible powers of the library for granting
permission to scan the book.

The library provided the book for scanning. A 240 year old pulp produce
(that was kept in the aggressive tropical climates of South India, much
unlike those lucky volumes in the library of congress) had to be treated
with much respect and care.

The Library Assistant of Dharmaram seminari Library, Mr. *Shyju* helped
scan the book with all the care it called for. His meticulous work produced
sufficiently high resolution image of each spread (two pages at once) of
the 290 page volume.

 These files were then to be processed. The images were shared by us over
the internet. *Shiju*, myself and *Kevin Siji *spent quite some hard time
to work on this process ensuring recovery of all possible kinds of
information (including tears, book-worm patches, hand-written notes and
stains). We produced several versions of the volume catering to different
uses ( HQ color/grey scale/monochrome, smaller but easily portable PDFs
etc.).  The wonderfully fuzzy-intelligent Scan tailor program (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scantailor/)  helped us extensively during
this phase. We also ran several stages of *Imagemagick*  software to
accomplish the results.

Finally, the output was uploaded by Shiju Alex to archive.org (
https://archive.org/stream/Samkshepavedartham_1772/samkshepavedartham_1772)
and also to ml.wikisource.org

We now plan to complete the text conversion phase within a few weeks.

As for the Unicode encoding:
The style and practice of writing / printing Malayalam script had changed
quite a bit during the 240+ years. However, most of the characters required
to type this in are already in the Unicode keymaps. There are a few
exceptions, though. We will come to know the precise details (of extra key
code requirements etc.) in the coming days.

Thanks and regards,

ViswaPrabha



On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Awesome!

 Did you have any challenges with digitizing the books? For example, are
 there any ancient Malayalam letters or symbols that were used in these
 books, but weren't available ib Unicode? Did you have any practical
 problems with the Wikisource software?
 בתאריך 29 באוג 2013 14:51, מאת Subhashish Panigrahi 
 subhash...@cis-india.org:

  Dear all,

 This is a great success to share the effort of Shiju and other
 Malayalam Wikimedians to bring Samkshepa Vedartham, the first
 Malayalam book online. This is a news article which has come on The
 Times of India and copyrighted.[1]

 THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: From a college library in Bangalore, a fragile
 copy of the first book printed in Malayalam -- SampkshepaVedartham --
 has made a leap to eternity. Thanks to efforts by
 MalayalamWikipedians, the book printed in 1772 and kept in Dharmaram
 College in Bangalore is now available free on the internet, without
 any copyright restriction.

 The scanned copy of 'Sampkshepa Vedartham or Nasranikal Okkeyum
 Ariyendunna Sampkshepa Vedartham' will be a major source of
 information for those interested in the history and development of
 Malayalam script. The book by Italian priest Clement Peanices is in
 the form of Christian religious teaching in question-answer format.
 The first edition of the book was printed using Malayalam types in
 Rome in 1772 and was brought to the state in 1774.

 A scanned copy of 'Albhabetum Grandonico Malabaricum', the first book
 to use Malayalam types, is already available for public use. It is
 believed that the Malayalam portion of this

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic print material digitization workshop query

2013-08-19 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

I am still traveling away in Bangalore etc. seeking out sources and
opportunities for old texts and other media for Wikimedia commons from
various locations of India. I think different people look at the issue
through different layers and perspectives. This might call for a detailed
write-up on the state of the current affairs in the field of *effective*and
*reusable* mass digitization from Indian sources. Shall do so as soon as I
reach back my station.

-Viswam

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Vishnu T visdav...@gmail.com wrote:

A brief account about the Workshop as a participant.

The workshop was meant as a DIY digitization without having to invest in a
scanner and to use a simple digital camera for effective digitization of
books and documents.

The following were covered during the Workshop by Viswaprabha, who mainly
led this workshop, along with Subhashish (who was trained by Viswaprabha
beforehand) and Shiju Alex:
a) Best practices in capturing images using a camera and tripod through
demonstration; intro to types of scanners;
b) how to hold books and the need to treat old books with respect; (very
critical)
c) discussion on image formats and some basic comparison (i.e. djvu, PDF,
JPEG, TIFF, BMP, GIF);
d) Introduction and practical use of SM Tether (using Nikon dSLR) in
capturing images;
e) Practical demonstration of using Scan Tailor (a Free Software) in
post-processing of scanned pages. Splitting, Deskewing, Rearranging
borders, De-speckling of scanned pages; f) some basic discussion on
Copyright and introduction to Wiki Source;
g) importance of online archival resources (DLI, DSAL, Archive.org, etc)
and when to do or not to redo scanning of books (i.e. image resolution)
that are already available in scanned format;
h) OCR and Indian languages.

Basically the workshop focused on how an 'ordinary' Wikimedian without
access to high tech infrastructure can effectively undertake digitization
of old books (especially in Indian languages) in a collaborative manner and
use Wiki Source to openly share this knowledge.

This was an impromptu workshop that was suddenly decided because of the
availability of Viswaprabha (WMIN EC member), who was in Bangalore for WMIN
EC meetings. It was also conceptualized as an Alpha stage presentation and
meant to be improved further. All the participants were asked to better the
presentation, in true Wiki style, Viswa made all the participants also the
authors.

I think it was a successful workshop, especially since I had personally
witnessed how much money various institutions and govt. are spending on
ineffective digitization. Such similar 'small-scale' workshops can
potentially empower interested Wikimedians and can create a decentralized,
effective, need-based collaborative digitization of books (our cultural
heritage), especially in Indian languages.

The workshop was collaboratively organized by WMIN and CIS-A2K and no
expenditure other than coffee and snacks was incurred. Going forward it
wold be useful to further improve this presentation collaboratively,
preferably by practice than by discourse. Also to train atleast 3-4
Wikimedians from each language community across India, who can further
impart this knowledge to others.

Best,
Vishnu

On 19 August 2013 21:00, L. Shyamal lshya...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you Subhashish for the response at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Bangalore/Digitization_workshop_18August2013

Dear Shyamal, this workshop was for demonstrating the participants about
create a home made set up to scan the books, edit the scanned images and
make an eBook. OCR is not still stable for Indic languages and would need
another workshop for presentation. Here the creating text based documents
is basically the manual editing on WikiSource. Please feel free to edit and
correct if any mistakes found. --Subhashish
Panigrahihttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Psubhashish(
talk http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Psubhashish) 10:34, 19
August 2013 (UTC) That sounds too basic. Almost any office assistant
these days is expected to know how to use a scanner and create at least a
PDF. It would be good if you can post your proposed workshops. There are
really excellent (and local if I may add) resources who can be proposed by
the community. Shyamal http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shyamal (
talk http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shyamal) 15:00, 19
August 2013 (UTC)
To abstract a bit from this - may I suggest that any planned workshops
actually work out the topic coverage on-wiki so that the structure is
useful and the expectations are clear. Asking potential attendees for areas
of interest or expectations may also help. Since there appears to be a plan
to do this on an India-wide scale I think it would be good to include
several other topics. Some of the things that I have had to consider in the
course of scanning thousands

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...

2013-03-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Konkani belongs to somewhat a unique class of Wikimedia languages where
many scripts may be used for the same content. Not exclusive, this list
includes at least English, Devanagari, Kannada and Malayalam.

The ideal goal in the case of a Konkani Wikimedia project is to have an
input system in any script from the above set as the user prefers and then
also to render the output in any script from the above set. The content
itself may be stored in some particular script or code space.

If I remember correctly, there have been several discussions in possible
techniques and tools to enable such a feature. Amir (Amir Elisha Aharoni ·
אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי), Shiju Alex or Santhosh Thottingal may be able
to enlighten us more about this.

This may also be the case for Sanskrit, as Sanskrit used to be scribed in
different scripts (other than just in devanagari) in different regions.
Perhaps, we should even have a Harward-Kyoto transliterated version for
Sanskrit.

On an even more ambitious scale, I dream about each Indic language being
available for input and output in every other Indic scripts. (Imagine
someone in Kerala trying to read and practice a Bengali poem without having
to know the Bengali script itself, and vice versa.)


-Viswam


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote:

 Dear Frederick,
 It's nice to see your signature in several Indian languages!

 Wanted to know which script Konkani wikipedia is planning to use,
 Devanagari or Kannada or both? It would be good if you could throw some
 light on comparative statistics regarding how many Konkani speakers use
 which script.

 Thanks,
 Tejaswini

 On 11 March 2013 02:37, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك
 نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all:

 Konkani Wikipedia [http://bit.ly/14bTwAi] is in its incubation stage. We
 would like to attempt to scale it up. Can someone point me to the essential
 messages that need to be translated (into Konkani), as I could try to get
 help to get those done.

 Thanks in advance, FN

 Frederick Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या ಫ್ರೆದೆರಿಕ್ ನರನ್ಯಾ ഫ്രെദെരിക് നരന്യാ
 فريدريك نورونيا

 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
 Audio recordings (mostly from Goa): http://bit.ly/GoaRecordings
 Goa,1556
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/76671049/Goa1556-Catalogue-Books-from-Goa

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...

2013-03-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote:
 How long a haul this could be? Asking out of curiosity.



Of course, this depends upon the amount of synergy we put in. In terms of
computing technology, this should not be a problem at all. But someone will
have to conceive and design a basic framework and engine (like an
MVChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVC_modelmodel) that can be used
with a common back end repository for contents in
all languages. There shall be 100% accurate and lossless reversible
script-to-script translation maps working on real time (at the instances of
inputting and rendering).

Some possible obstacles, as it occurs to me:

1. Increased server/browser load due to the additional processing

2. Incompatibilities and non-uniqueness between scripts. (For eg: Some
languages have letters / phonemes that are not available in some other
languages, [eg.  ഴ (a sound/letter in Malayalam)( ಳ / ழ/ ళ)
3. Availability of enough multi-lingual experts to verify the quality of
such translations

4. Implementation of long-term standards and version control.


-Viswam
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] additions - Indian Languages question

2013-02-14 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

It is by 1877 that the Europeans started studying and classifying the
scripts of oriental languages especially, South Asian and East Asian.

Probably Holle did the first attempt of cataloging the Sanskrit and its
apparently descending languages within the Indian subcontinent and beyond.


Please see this informative document which also points to the changes that
may have occurred to these scripts due to social reasons.


http://home.gwu.edu/~kuipers/kuipers%20insular%20seasia%20scripts.pdf

-Viswam



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Tejaswini and Friends,

 It is an interesting and pertinent issue. I do completely concur with
 Tejaswini on the problem of 'using philological classifications and
 terminology'. However, it will be interesting to track the history of how
 we have ended up with the term 'Indic', in the computing context. Do
 friends on the list know of any history of computing terms and how 'Indic'
 has come to be used?

 Would be useful if any body can shed light on this and let us also put
 this up on Wikipedia.

 The Wiktionary entry for 'Indic' is here
 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Indic

 Look forward to more conversations on this.

 Regards,
 Vishnu



 On 14 February 2013 09:34, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote:

 Correction: by Dravidian language in Pakistan I suppose you meant Brahui,
 which has a couple of million speakers. Doesn't appear to be much writing
 in the language though. We will have to find out more.

 And one more comment on your suggestion about using 'Indic-Dravidian': do
 remember that we have several languages in the north-east which are part of
 neither of these groupings, since they are from the Tibeto-Burman family of
 languages! This is what I meant by the problem of using philological
 classifications and terminology.

 TN



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Number of Admin users in Indic Wikipedias

2013-01-11 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Just for your info if it will help devise effective strategies:

*Continuance of Administrative privileges*

In Malayalam, we have a periodical assessment of active Admins. Some of
them are very very active (almost round the clock!). Some are frequenting
on monthly or seasonally waving cycles of crests and troughs. Really very
few are inactive over a long span.

During such talk page assessments, we discuss if someone (who has been idle
for a long time) needs to be demoted from their Admin status. The general
consensus is not to strictly enforce such demotions but to request them to
relinquish the status by themselves. Most often, they agree to this.

The practice of such self-relinquishing of long time idle admins is to
avoid a potential security risk of someone else stealing their wikimedia
user login credentials and misuse the extra privileges.

If one such ex-admin would like to take back his admin role later (as he
finds more time to get involved), he only need to put up a simple request
at the concerned voting page. The request is almost automatically approved
by other admins without the  need of a new election.

As of now, we have a satisfactory ratio between the number of admins and
active users.

*Harvesting new admins*

Instead of an abrupt promotion to the status of a sysop or bureaucrat, we
encourage a gradual  elevation of an active, self-motivated neutral and
dedicated user. Others closely watch the activities of a new user and, in
time, grants extra privileges (like Auto Patrol, Roll back etc.). Later,
taking several parameters (like count and quality of editing, talks etc.),
someone proposes him to be a new sysop. Voting is done as per protocols and
then he becomes an admin.

Off the Wikimedia interface, these admins interact and consult mutually
very frequently through list mails or threaded mails on a case to case
basis.

So far, these models have proved themselves to be very effective,
manageable and scalable.


-Viswam
(Wikiuser:Viswaprabha)



On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM, subhashish subhash...@cis-india.orgwrote:

 **

 I think that's a brilliant idea Ravi. In addition to all these points you
 have added it also brings stability and openness to the community.

 On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:34:23 +0530, Ravishankar wrote:

 Hi,

 I was browsing through http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipediasand 
 found the number of admin users across Indic Wikipedias very low.

 Hindi has only 4, followed by Bengali and Marathi with 10 and Telugu and
 Malayalam with 18.

 If you discount the inactive admin users, the count can be very low to
 maintain the quality.

 In Tamil Wikipedia, we make sure to run admin elections regularly. We
 choose around 4 admins every year and don't hesitate to nominate promising
 newcomers. This helps to share work load, give a break for wikiholics and
 provide a sense of belonging for the whole community. In the beginning
 days, most of the founding members got admin access within few weeks of
 meaningful contribution and this good will has never failed.

 Unless there are other compelling reasons for this low count of admin
 users, I urge every community to nominate / self-nominate good contributors
 and make them admins.

 Ravi




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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crossess 50, 000 article mark

2012-12-21 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Congratulations, ta.wikipedia.org!

Let us all together work even harder to make the exponential rate of growth
even higher.

Together, we have a long way to go. Our potential is so great that even
50,000  is only 1% of the work ahead of us.

-Viswam




On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Anoop Narayanan anoop@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations to Tamil Wikipedians.  :)


 On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow... That's wonderful...

 Sent using Mobile
 On Dec 21, 2012 1:38 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Tamil Wikipedia crossed 50,000 article milestone on December 18th, 2012.

 The first 1000 articles took 1 year and 11 months.

 The last 25,000 articles were created in just 2 years and 2 months !

 You can find the growth captured in the graph at

 http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/3ys

 During the last few months, we focused on clean up, improving article
 quality and creating most important articles listed at

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wikipedia turns 10 today

2012-12-20 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Congratulations, Malayalam Wikipedia, for making it loud among the media
and aspiring new users!

A great milestone indeed!




On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Anoop Narayanan anoop@gmail.comwrote:

 All,

 Malayalam Wikipedia turns 10 today.

 Please see the online versions of the article published on some news papers

 Mathrubhumi: http://www.mathrubhumi.com/story.php?id=326279  (in
 Malayalam)

 Madhyamam : http://www.madhyamam.com/news/205323/121221 (in Malayalam)

 Malayala Manorama English:
 http://english.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/contentView.do?contentId=13071555tabId=1programId=11565535(
  in English)

 Happy Birthday Malayalam Wikipedia :)

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 With Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-08-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

When a humble tiny group of Wikipedia users pondered upon an annual
get-together added with some spice of outreach possibilities, we did not
hope or expect that some one from Wikimedia Global Foundation will turn up
there even with a terribly hectic schedule on a world itinerary at his
hand. Our imaginations were perhaps too little.

But to our dismay, somebody took all interests on his own to make it a
point to reach the venue at the right instant when a voice from our global
existence was absolutely in need in front of a rather uneducated (about
Wikimedia) media and public.

His arrival, short address, interactions  and interviews went a long way in
taking the Wikisangamotsavam
2012http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%82%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%82_-_2012/enwe
held at Kollam during this April. Besides assuring the guest
participants at the function, it also launched a series of mentions and
reflections of the program and community at various forums and web spaces.

That was Barry Newstead, complete with his enchanting smile and
entertaining mind and energetic spirits!

Thank you!

Your leaving Wikimedia now, makes us speechless

Thank you for being there in Wikipedia and making a mark of it for ever.
And best wishes for  all success in your future endeavors!


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Srikanth Lakshmanan to the i18n engineering team

2012-08-01 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Quite logical, i18n-Et.
And congratulations, logic.

:)

Tamil and other Indic Wikis, have a great go with Srikant !

-Viswam
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell

2012-07-31 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Ashwin +1

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ashwin +1

 Deepon
 On Jul 31, 2012 6:24 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Abdul,

 You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right
 to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are
 subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if
 not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We
 have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know
 nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go.

 Ashwin Baindur



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team

2012-06-25 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Some of the videos are not cut in length per person. So those who find
their videos missing may go through the likely ones that falls to the right
time slot and check by playing them all along (or just jumping through
short intervals).

If someone can additionally add links (of corresponding speech /
presentation/event) from the program page to each video (which contain
multiple segments) that would be nice and efficient.
Thanks,
Viswam



On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:

 On 25 June 2012 19:42, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Subashish, Der aye, durust aye. But how I wish it had appeared
  in a few weeks rather than a few months. Any idea as to the reason of
  the delay?

 Took a long time to get it from the chap. And uploading that much
 video is not easy.

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Images in wikipedia

2012-02-27 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Coming to think of that, Wouldn't it be nice to have an automatic script or
macro to be incorporated in a JS, or within the mail writer module or list
mailer to automatically convert  to the registered sender's user ID?
:)

Any takers?

~~~ oops
[http://goo.gl/TbT92]



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:22, nischay nahata nischay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  2012/2/27 nischay nahata nischay...@gmail.com:
  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:
  By user level customization it is possible. I think providing such a
  feature by default, in wiki level, in projects like wikipedia is a bad
  idea because each file page contains much more data than a pop up
  layer can afford. Unlike facebook or google plus, only relevant and
  properly licensed pictures, remain undeleted in wikimedia projects. So
  all informations present in media pages, including license, category,
  included pages, details about the file, etc are important for an
  encyclopedic project. So current style file pages are not replacable
  (atleast for now). Still user customization possible for those who not
  interested in such details.
 
  I think that answers my query pretty well
 
  Hey, that's just one opinion :)
 
  I think that it's a pretty good idea. It just need the right design. I
  see no problem at all with showing the image like in Google+ with the
  license fine-print under it.
 
  The wikitech-l and foundation-l mailing lists are the best places to
  discuss it. And maybe also the Village Pump of Commons:
  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:VP

 Glad that you liked the idea.The general public don't care about
 license and stuff.If the images open as a pop-up its going to increase
 the usability for them.Lets see what others have to say and what
 design conditions are necessary for that.

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 With Regards

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-08 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Praveenp +1


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 16:10, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Excellent Suggestion Praveen, +1.


 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 If this get implemented with enough background check with rigid
 criteria like credible 300 uploads/3000 edits +1 yr active
 participation in any indian lang wiki project so as active users can
 get full advantage, it will be great. Such a criteria will help to
 keep self proclaimed or self appointed wikipedia enthusiasists away
 from taking over wikimedians or misusing wikipedia photographer
 status.

 On 07/02/2012, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote:
 
  Agree with Srikanth, as I can't join the chapter because I'm underage.
 
  Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:49:39 -0800
  From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com
  To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards
 (was:
  Backup for Wikipedians)
 
  I agree with fae about the entire issue.
  Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University
 where
  I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia.
 
  For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away
 for
  pulling out a Camera in Public.
 
 
  However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter,
 especially
  the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others.
  Re,
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna 
 vvcris...@radiophony.com
  wrote:
 
  Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below)
 
  On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Great suggestion Fae.
  As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the
 content
  scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any
  jurisdiction over.
 
 
 
  I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active
  editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea
 at
  the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not.
 
 
 
  For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't
 be
  too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and
  suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is
  since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or
 no
  direct liability to an official body. There should however be a
 contribution
  record or an endorsement from someone to print these out.
 
 
 
  One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special
  member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a
  surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out
 plastic
  IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID
  might be able to suffice for the purpose.
 
 
 
 
  I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a
 centralised
  location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security
 and
  logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a
 request for
  accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based
  one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In
  case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to
 report
  the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be
 printed.
 
 
   Regards
  Theo
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within
 Board ,
  SIG leadership and the members.
 
  But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this.
 
 
 
  Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the
 ID
  by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care.
 
 
  May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and
  grant them.  ( just a suggestion)
  Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to only trusted
  Wikimedians with a substantial amount of history with our projects and
  mission.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Regards
  Tinu Cherian
 
  On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this.
 
 
 
  Warm regards,
 
 
 
  Ashwin Baindur
 
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  On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into
 some
 
  sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be
 
  addressed.  Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the
 
  chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line.  Therefore, the
  chapter
 
  must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial
 amount
  of
 
  history with our projects and their mission.
 
 
 
  In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those
 it

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Swarooprao (MikeLynch) is our newest admin on English Wikipedia

2012-01-22 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Ashwin,

You seem  to be the most omnipresent guy everywhere in Wikipedia as far as
WikiProject India is concerned. I keep wondering how a single person can
devote so much time to the cause of a project as vast as WP:India.

Being at the helm of a very good one-fifth of all potential Wikipedia
users, You really deserve to be an admin.

However, if you are not prepared to be one that can share time between
head-mastering a Colosseum and excelling as a shepherd of  sorts, we should
rather wait. We better need our shepherd.

Just when you feel you are ready, we will be there to vote for you! :)

-viswam
[Congrats to Swaroop is automatic, in line]



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 Hey many Congrats :) Happy to see you as an admin. I din't know you were
 on RFA, missed the chance to convey my support :) Keep it up :)


 On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
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 WOW !!

 Congrats Swaroop Rao !!!

 -Sudhanwa


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 Congratulations, mate!

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MikeLynch#Congratulations

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikipedia 11 celebrations

2012-01-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

If there is  money for such celebrations, let us impart it for some very
simple things:

What about just printing the Wikipedia logo stickers abundantly and
distributing it among relevant circles?

Just getting the common man to acquaint with the logo itself will be a very
effective outreach! I can say this from my own experience since two months
and 20 stickers!

-Viswam



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 money could be more productively useful to the whole community other than
 for purchase and cutting cakes,
 +1,

 Can we formulate a policy for providing and recieving grants that can be
 made on and  followed in a public or chapter's public wiki?

 This is a good suggestion..

 User:Rameshng



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 hi,

 I just got an email from the chapter asking if I wanted money (upto INR
 2000)  from the chapter for the conduct of Wikipedia 11 anniversary. I am
 not sure how many other cities got the same offer.

 While it may seem as a generous offer, my own opinion is that this money
 could be more productively useful to the whole community other than for
 purchase and cutting cakes, which was a requirement that the Chapter asked
 for, if we were to hold the event.

 Can we formulate a policy for providing and recieving grants that can be
 made on and  followed in a public or chapter's public wiki?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-15 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Praveen Prakash +1

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:46, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start
 a new thread.

 On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam
  Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief
  discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about
  webfonts'
  rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open
  licensed, but there are other rendering bugs.  Issue I raised was about
 an
  unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a
 propaganda
  pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need
  additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server.
 But
  Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations.
 :)
  Naturally thread died.
 
  Praveen Do you mean this bug ?
  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005
 
  The bug speaks itself .
 
  From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not
  properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand
  to use fonts them from upstream.
 
  On Normalization of characters,  it is an optional feature, for
  visibility of some chillus  , that can be disabled in user settings if
  needed.
  It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in
  Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is
  just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be
  missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser
  restrictions.
 
 
  Anivar
 
 
 
 
  I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation
 on
  Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any
 development.
  As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on
 ml
  projects.
 
  I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the
  Malayalam
  Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this
  deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other
  wikies.
 
  I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on
  wikimedia servers, based on his I am correct, I am correct, I am the
 only
  correct attitude.
 
  If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for
  removing it.
 
 
  On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
  parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do
  it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that
  matter.
 
  On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
   srik@gmail.comwrote:
  
   I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are
   seeing
   the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense.
 Tamil
   Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
  
  
   +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki
   projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of
   reference online for the respective languages.
  
   Ravi
  
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia

2011-12-12 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

I would like to stress again that what we need first is to interconnect
ourselves.

We, at various Indic Wikipedias, are still working very much on our own
home islands!

Images, references, PR personnel, media - Among various Indic Wikipedias,
we have a lot that can be shared together.

Beyond the singular difference of native language, our needs, ends and
means are mostly same.

[Not to mention that (in.en.wiki*) is automatically a subset of (in.wiki*)]

So,

let us think aloud how to interconnect ourselves more systematically and
collectively.

Though many may have reservations in using social networking as a tool, we
at Malayalam Wikipedia have been using Facebook, Blogs, Google Buzz/Plus/
Docs/Maps/Calendar etc. somewhat effectively to improve and accelerate
content and quality of ml.wiki*.

(As an example, see this spreadsheet (Geodesic Coords for
ml.wikipedia)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_UShl=en_USkey=0AkzufXP7aCjEdGxvdmw5U2VwTThiUFVLZjVVWVY0dUEoutput=html,
It has been just created today as an upcoming collaboration tool for
GeoTagging our articles in a massive way. We envisage that the same data
can be later shared with other Wikipedias in some automated way. If only we
had a larger national network, we could achieve this much faster and
wider!!)

*What if we setup some similar acts for Inter-Indic Wiki friendship circles
(Where every in.wiki user can join and share their problems, solutions and
ideas)?*

Viswam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viswaprabha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viswaprabha

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 23:20, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

Interestingly this was what you and I spoke about over the phone
today. I think this should be of the highest priority. If the chapter
and foundation are unable to focus on this it becomes the
responsibility of the community aka us, to take forward such an
initiative. We shall talk more on this soon Pradeep. What you have
said could very well accelerate the growth of the movement in India,
organically.

On 12/12/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,

We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various
things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of
building the community using these resources.

Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media,
with
social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but
more
hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more
coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having
more
people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the
Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city
through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing
community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places.

I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we
must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will
support the community.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sharing insights and experiences from Indian language wiki communities - Kannada

2011-12-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

That is not always true. Even the apparently (for us) easy pages on
English Wikipedia are too technical for a would-be enthusiatic neo wiki
editor as he/she just steps into editing attempts even after a long
experience of reading wikipedia.

I can wow on to this as I have met many such people who would, at first
'dare into editing' often at the forceful prompting of an experienced user,
but soon withdraw.
To them, there seems to be too may syntax formalities and restricting rules
and regulations.

The same people, if continuously and intensively supported by an
experienced one, crosses the learning curve quite fast and become able to
stand on his own as an independent contributor.

I sincerely think that there is a clear need of preparing and showcasing a
Real Idiot's Guide to early Wikipedia editing. Perhaps, we do not realize
such lack of user-friendliness ourselves as most of us have come away a
long way from that stage.

-Viswam

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 22:33, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

I think the pages available for beginners on english wikipedia is more
than enough to learn.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Thanks for sending this, Shiju!

I just got off the phone with a wonderful woman who works for EDC India
who was asking me how she could participate in Kannada Wikipedia editing.
Obviously I can just direct her to the homepage of kn-wiki, but is there
somewhere she could go to get some coaching to begin? She's never edited
before, but is fluent in English too and wants to increase the educational
content.

Thanks for your help!
Jessie

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Dear All,

As part of my discussion with Indic language Wikipedians I spoke with
few Kannada wikipedians. I have summarized the discussion in meta wiki. It
is here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages/Kannada/Discussions/2011

Kannada with more than 4 crore speakers and is one of the 22 scheduled
languages of india. Kannada is primarily spoken in the Indian state
Karnataka.

Kannada Wikipedia has a very interesting heritage. This is the
community that started Wiki outreach programs in India. In fact, the first
Indic wiki workshop that I am aware of was organized by HPN way back in
2004! A lot of interesting things happened for a while and there was a
time when Kannda has a vibrant 40+ strong community.

However, off late, things appear to have slowed down and the number of
active editors is on a relative decline. Having said that, the seeds have
already been sown in this community and I am confident that with a little
nurturing, we can see activism in Kannada wikipedia coming back. I am
basing my optimism on Kananda Wiktionary -where the community has taken it
to the 2nd largest wiktionary in the country. There is much activism
happening around kannada wiktionary. In Kannada wikipedia I got opportunity
to interact with high prolific editors like User:Radhatanaya who is
silently doing wonderful job.

Kannada wikipedia has more than 11,000 articles now and kannada
wiktionary has whopping 1,50,000 entries (making it the second biggest
Wiktionary among Indic language wiktionaries).

Kindly read the experience of Kannada Wikimedians at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages/Kannada/Discussions/2011

Regards
Shiju

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani

2011-12-08 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

Very encouraging!

Whole support for you, Ahirani!

Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear!

:)

-Viswam


On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hoi,
 It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is completed.
 What is necessary is information of the proposer and people interested in
 working on this language.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani

 In the mean time I have written a Mingle story asking for the support
 for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration 
 *exactly*like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three 
 weeks
 before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have it
 implemented on translatewiki.net.

 When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that it
 is as it needs to be. Having a language support team for Ahirani (and any
 other language) really helps.
 http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team
 Thanks,
   Gerard


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 Hi,

 I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at
 L  T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really
 inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The
 language is called Ahirani . The script of Ahirani is Devanagari which
 used for Hindi and Marathi languages.

 Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Drugs

2011-11-21 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ

User: Netha Hussain +1


On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on
 ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related
 articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you
 mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs
 their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to
 the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade)
 names of the drugs.
  Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or
 UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such  that if
 an Indian trade name is added to the  Wikipedia page of a drug, it
 gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search
 for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names
 of the same. The end result is that those looking for information
 about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than
 Wikipedia.

 Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I
 am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or
 similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.

 Regards
 User: Netha Hussain



 On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
 
  Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my
  doctor's prescription).
  Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia.
  I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
 
  http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN
  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/
  http://www.webmd.com
 
  I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor.
  collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And I
  was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my
  article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
 
  I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding
  composition, use, side effects of each drug.
  Incubation of such project would be helpful.
 
  I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure
  this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
 copyright
  in the bottom)
  http://wikidrugs.org/
 
  It is imitation of wikipedia.
 
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