Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Also, Noopur, Anirudh, Nikita, Konark, don't feel guilty about
categories. It's not something that individually matters. That is a
collective responsibility.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Strong support to Bala's statement. The Tamil wiki contest is
different from a photowalk. The main aim of it was to increase content
related to Tamil. As for articles being created based on the entries,
I can show the one I created on Coimbatore bypass.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[nikita belavate]

e stays or goes.
>>>
>>> 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been
>>> contemplating on things:
>>> How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in
>>> the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in
>>> terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items?
>>> Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so
>>> that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware
>>> or don't know how to)?
>>>
>>> Do let me know what you guys think!
>>> Regards
>>> Noopur
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk
>>>> happened, else I'd have helped.
>>>> I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while
>>>> keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted.
>>>>
>>>> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
>>>> --
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530
>>>> From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
>>>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and
>>>> other events
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my
>>>> view all events are culprits.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I
>>>> shudder to think!
>>>>
>>>> Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition
>>>> till it is uploaded with :
>>>> * proper description.
>>>> * suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.
>>>> * proper categorisation in Commons.
>>>>
>>>> Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should
>>>> end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload
>>>> of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named,
>>>> unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took
>>>> in the photothon never get realised.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should
>>>> end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50
>>>> good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting
>>>> for Godot]]".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 
>>>> you're
>>>> talking about something like this, right Ashwin?
>>>>
>>>> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Ashwin Baindur]

Bala, that is great news indeed. 8K utilisations! Magnificient.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Bala Jeyaraman wrote:

> Ashwin,
> Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry
> barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not
> considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions,
> usage suggestions) for the prizes.
>
> Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are
> some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the
> complete list):
>
> 1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users  are even more
> overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our
> activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We
> realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the
> categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own,
> without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided
> by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover
> rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup.
> Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now.
>
> We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping /
> description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were
> uploaded as part of the after contest efforts.
>
> The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear
> filenames/descriptions 3)rotations 4)categorisaton
>
> And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your
> own wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do
> categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why
> categorising should be done.
>
> 2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for.
> This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part
> of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki
> has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and
> some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they
> became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in
> commons too.
>
> 3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used
> in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis
> there are a total of 11k file usage instances.
>
> 4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all
> uploaders talk pages  (and email if their email facility is enabled)
> thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of.
>
>
> ==Links==
> 1)
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=250&target=Category%3ATamilWiki_Media_Contest
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>
>> Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We
>> kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
>> was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
>> got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
>> There are several reasons for this:
>>
>> 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
>> make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>>
>> 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
>> migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
>> no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>>
>> 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been
>> contemplating on things:
>> How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in
>> the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in
>> terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items?
>> Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so
>> that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware
>> or don't know how to)?
>>
>> Do let me know what you guys think!
>> Regards
>> Noopur
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:
>>
>>>  Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk
>>> happened, else I'd have helped.
>>> I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while
>>> keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted.
>>>
>>> Konarak 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Noopur]

Alrighty! Thanks :)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Béria Lima  wrote:

> I think you didn't understand him   Noopur. He asked you (and i'm quoting):
>
> *Please use as far as possible the category of the regarding
>> city/town/village or district (if there's no category) etc., or, a
>> localized better 'fitting' i.e. the 'most fitting"' category(ies). Do
>> not add - in addition - the categories of the "parent category", among them
>> cities, states and countries etc.*
>>
>
> Or in other words: Don't add a cat and a sub-cat. Like the cake and
> birthday cake case, you only need to put in one, so if is a Birthday Cake,
> use only this category. People who want to see a birthday cake and get to
> category Cake, will have a link to the sub cat.
>
> Same goes to categories like  India - state - city - event. If the event
> is in city X (Let's use Delhi for example) you don't need to add as well
> the cat for the city, state and Country in the image. That is called over
> categorization.
>
> But if you have a birthday cake for a party in Delhi in the event (again
> example): Wikipedia 10. You can - and you should - add the cat to the
> event  AND the category for the cake.
>
> If you wanna see an example of a image with several categories but not
> overcategorized you can see this one for example:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:B%C3%A9ria_at_Bom_Jesus_do_Monte.jpgwho
>  have 6 categories, but none is subcat of  another.
> _
> *
> *
>
> *[image: Inline images 1]*
>
> *Béria Lima*
>
> * *
>
> * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*
>
>
>
> *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
> ** *
>
>
> On 13 March 2012 15:24, Noopur  wrote:
>
>> Dear Beria,
>>
>> Here is the message this user left:
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noopur28#Your_uploads_in_December_2011.2C_referring_to_India_:_Categorisation
>>
>>
>> My logic for adding 3-4 categories was that people usually search by
>> keywords and not inside larger categories. So I would add around 3-4
>> categories. But, then this user told me to stick to larger parent
>> categories. I am still unsure which is a better way so I stick to only
>> India or a state category now.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:
>>
>>> Who asked you that and why?
>>>
>>> You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
>>> redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same
>>> image).
>>>
>>> I would like the message when someone asked you that
>>> _
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
>>> *[image: Inline images 1]*
>>>
>>> *Béria Lima*
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>> ** *
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur  wrote:
>>>
  All help is welcome,
 these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
 they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
 one you can create those and add the cat to these files.

 Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories.
 I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.


 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati 
 wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur 
> wrote:
> > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
> We kept
> > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
> was
> > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us
> really got
> > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning
> up.
> > There are several reasons for this:
>
> It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
> migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
> [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
> and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
> expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
> power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
> help you out with that.
>
> We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
> make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
>
> >
> > 1) People st

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Béria Lima]

I think you didn't understand him   Noopur. He asked you (and i'm quoting):

*Please use as far as possible the category of the regarding
> city/town/village or district (if there's no category) etc., or, a
> localized better 'fitting' i.e. the 'most fitting"' category(ies). Do not
> add - in addition - the categories of the "parent category", among them
> cities, states and countries etc.*
>

Or in other words: Don't add a cat and a sub-cat. Like the cake and
birthday cake case, you only need to put in one, so if is a Birthday Cake,
use only this category. People who want to see a birthday cake and get to
category Cake, will have a link to the sub cat.

Same goes to categories like  India - state - city - event. If the event is
in city X (Let's use Delhi for example) you don't need to add as well the
cat for the city, state and Country in the image. That is called over
categorization.

But if you have a birthday cake for a party in Delhi in the event (again
example): Wikipedia 10. You can - and you should - add the cat to the
event  AND the category for the cake.

If you wanna see an example of a image with several categories but not
overcategorized you can see this one for example:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:B%C3%A9ria_at_Bom_Jesus_do_Monte.jpgwho
have 6 categories, but none is subcat of  another.
_
*
*

*[image: Inline images 1]*

*Béria Lima*

* *

* Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*



*Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **







*
** *


On 13 March 2012 15:24, Noopur  wrote:

> Dear Beria,
>
> Here is the message this user left:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noopur28#Your_uploads_in_December_2011.2C_referring_to_India_:_Categorisation
>
>
> My logic for adding 3-4 categories was that people usually search by
> keywords and not inside larger categories. So I would add around 3-4
> categories. But, then this user told me to stick to larger parent
> categories. I am still unsure which is a better way so I stick to only
> India or a state category now.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:
>
>> Who asked you that and why?
>>
>> You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
>> redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same
>> image).
>>
>> I would like the message when someone asked you that
>> _
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *[image: Inline images 1]*
>>
>> *Béria Lima*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>> ** *
>>
>>
>> On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur  wrote:
>>
>>>  All help is welcome,
>>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.
>>>
>>> Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories.
>>> I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur 
 wrote:
 > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
 We kept
 > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
 was
 > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us
 really got
 > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning
 up.
 > There are several reasons for this:

 It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
 migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
 [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
 and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
 these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
 they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
 one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
 expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
 power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
 help you out with that.

 We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
 [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
 make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.

 >
 > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
 to make
 > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.

 Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
 images inspired creation of articles a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Bala Jeyaraman]

Ashwin,
Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry
barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not
considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions,
usage suggestions) for the prizes.

Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are
some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the
complete list):

1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users  are even more
overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our
activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We
realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the
categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own,
without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided
by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover
rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup.
Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now.

We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping /
description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were
uploaded as part of the after contest efforts.

The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear filenames/descriptions
3)rotations 4)categorisaton

And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your own
wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do
categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why
categorising should be done.

2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for.
This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part
of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki
has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and
some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they
became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in
commons too.

3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used
in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis
there are a total of 11k file usage instances.

4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all
uploaders talk pages  (and email if their email facility is enabled)
thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of.


==Links==
1)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=250&target=Category%3ATamilWiki_Media_Contest

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:

> Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We
> kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
> was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
> got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
> There are several reasons for this:
>
> 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
> make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>
> 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
> migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
> no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>
> 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been
> contemplating on things:
> How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in
> the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in
> terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items?
> Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so
> that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware
> or don't know how to)?
>
> Do let me know what you guys think!
> Regards
> Noopur
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:
>
>>  Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk
>> happened, else I'd have helped.
>> I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping
>> track of those identical images that should be deleted.
>>
>> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
>> ----------
>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530
>> From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and
>> other events
>>
>>
>> Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view
>> all events are culprits.
>>
>> Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I
>> shudder to think!
>>
>> Suggestion : No image should be considered el

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Noopur]

She deserves some virtual tiramisu for that :) Thanks Beria!

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:

> Beria, you are GOD.  She moved all the media to [[Category:Wikipedia takes
> Ahmedabad 1]] with Cat-a-lot.  Also, I made an error again,
> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] should be a sub-cat of
> [[Category:Ahmedabad]], so there is no need to add both.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:
>
>> Who asked you that and why?
>>
>> You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
>> redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same
>> image).
>>
>> I would like the message when someone asked you that
>> _
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *[image: Inline images 1]*
>>
>> *Béria Lima*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>> ** *
>>
>>
>> On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur  wrote:
>>
>>>  All help is welcome,
>>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.
>>>
>>> Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories.
>>> I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur 
 wrote:
 > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
 We kept
 > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
 was
 > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us
 really got
 > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning
 up.
 > There are several reasons for this:

 It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
 migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
 [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
 and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
 these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
 they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
 one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
 expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
 power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
 help you out with that.

 We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
 [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
 make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.

 >
 > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
 to make
 > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.

 Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
 images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
 [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).

 >
 > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
 > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But,
 I/We are
 > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.

 Yes, indeed.

 Thanks,
 anirudh

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Anirudh Bhati]

Beria, you are GOD.  She moved all the media to [[Category:Wikipedia takes
Ahmedabad 1]] with Cat-a-lot.  Also, I made an error again,
[[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] should be a sub-cat of
[[Category:Ahmedabad]], so there is no need to add both.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:

> Who asked you that and why?
>
> You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
> redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same
> image).
>
> I would like the message when someone asked you that
> _
> *
> *
>
> *[image: Inline images 1]*
>
> *Béria Lima*
>
> * *
>
> * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*
>
>
>
> *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
> ** *
>
>
> On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur  wrote:
>
>>  All help is welcome,
>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.
>>
>> Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I
>> was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>>> > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
>>> We kept
>>> > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
>>> > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
>>> got
>>> > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
>>> > There are several reasons for this:
>>>
>>> It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
>>> migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
>>> [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
>>> and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
>>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
>>> expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
>>> power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
>>> help you out with that.
>>>
>>> We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
>>> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
>>> make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
>>> to make
>>> > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>>>
>>> Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
>>> images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
>>> [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
>>> > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But,
>>> I/We are
>>> > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> anirudh
>>>
>>> >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Noopur]

Dear Beria,

Here is the message this user left:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noopur28#Your_uploads_in_December_2011.2C_referring_to_India_:_Categorisation


My logic for adding 3-4 categories was that people usually search by
keywords and not inside larger categories. So I would add around 3-4
categories. But, then this user told me to stick to larger parent
categories. I am still unsure which is a better way so I stick to only
India or a state category now.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:

> Who asked you that and why?
>
> You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
> redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same
> image).
>
> I would like the message when someone asked you that
> _
> *
> *
>
> *[image: Inline images 1]*
>
> *Béria Lima*
>
> * *
>
> * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*
>
>
>
> *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* **
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
> ** *
>
>
> On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur  wrote:
>
>>  All help is welcome,
>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.
>>
>> Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I
>> was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>>> > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
>>> We kept
>>> > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
>>> > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
>>> got
>>> > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
>>> > There are several reasons for this:
>>>
>>> It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
>>> migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
>>> [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
>>> and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
>>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
>>> expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
>>> power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
>>> help you out with that.
>>>
>>> We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
>>> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
>>> make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
>>> to make
>>> > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>>>
>>> Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
>>> images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
>>> [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
>>> > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But,
>>> I/We are
>>> > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> anirudh
>>>
>>> >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Béria Lima]

Who asked you that and why?

You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't
redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same
image).

I would like the message when someone asked you that
_
*
*

*[image: Inline images 1]*

*Béria Lima*

* *

* Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.*



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On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur  wrote:

>  All help is welcome,
> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.
>
> Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I
> was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>> > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We
>> kept
>> > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
>> > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
>> got
>> > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
>> > There are several reasons for this:
>>
>> It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
>> migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
>> [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
>> and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
>> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
>> expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
>> power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
>> help you out with that.
>>
>> We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
>> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
>> make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
>>
>> >
>> > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
>> make
>> > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>>
>> Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
>> images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
>> [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
>>
>> >
>> > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
>> > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We
>> are
>> > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>>
>> Yes, indeed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> anirudh
>>
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Pradeep Mohandas]

Important lesson for WLM coming up later this year.

Pradeep
Handheld
On Mar 13, 2012 11:25 PM, "Noopur"  wrote:

> Arrey no. Chill ya. You are our biggest success story of the photothon :P
> This comment was generally regarding how too many images can make us all
> lazy.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:
>
>>  Hey Noopur,
>> If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this
>> categorization work and saw this mail here.
>> And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll add/create proper categories to the images.
>>
>> > From: anirudh...@gmail.com
>> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:19:38 +0530
>> > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and
>> other events
>>
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur 
>> wrote:
>> > > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
>> We kept
>> > > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
>> was
>> > > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us
>> really got
>> > > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning
>> up.
>> > > There are several reasons for this:
>> >
>> > It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have
>> > migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing
>> > [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
>> > and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome,
>> > these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
>> > they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
>> > one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no
>> > expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
>> > power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
>> > help you out with that.
>> >
>> > We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
>> > [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
>> > make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
>> to make
>> > > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>> >
>> > Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
>> > images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See
>> > [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
>> >
>> > >
>> > > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
>> > > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But,
>> I/We are
>> > > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>> >
>> > Yes, indeed.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > anirudh
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Noopur]

Arrey no. Chill ya. You are our biggest success story of the photothon :P
This comment was generally regarding how too many images can make us all
lazy.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:

>  Hey Noopur,
> If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this
> categorization work and saw this mail here.
> And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll add/create proper categories to the images.
>
> > From: anirudh...@gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:19:38 +0530
> > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and
> other events
>
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
> > > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged.
> We kept
> > > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
> > > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
> got
> > > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
> > > There are several reasons for this:
> >
> > It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have
> > migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing
> > [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
> > and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome,
> > these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
> > they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
> > one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no
> > expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
> > power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
> > help you out with that.
> >
> > We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
> > [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
> > make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
> >
> > >
> > > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event
> to make
> > > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
> >
> > Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
> > images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See
> > [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
> >
> > >
> > > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
> > > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But,
> I/We are
> > > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
> >
> > Yes, indeed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > anirudh
> >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Konarak Ratnakar]

Hey Noopur,If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this 
categorization work and saw this mail here.And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll 
add/create proper categories to the images.

> From: anirudh...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:19:38 +0530
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other
> events
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
> > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept
> > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
> > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got
> > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
> > There are several reasons for this:
> 
> It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
> migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
> [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
> and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
> expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
> power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
> help you out with that.
> 
> We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
> make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
> 
> >
> > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make
> > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
> 
> Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
> images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
> [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
> 
> >
> > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
> > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
> > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
> 
> Yes, indeed.
> 
> Thanks,
> anirudh
> 
> >
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[Noopur]

 All help is welcome,
these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
one you can create those and add the cat to these files.

Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I
was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
> > Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We
> kept
> > the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
> > decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
> got
> > around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
> > There are several reasons for this:
>
> It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
> migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
> [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
> and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
> these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
> they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
> one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
> expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
> power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
> help you out with that.
>
> We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
> [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
> make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.
>
> >
> > 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
> make
> > Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
>
> Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
> images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
> [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).
>
> >
> > 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
> > migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We
> are
> > no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
>
> Yes, indeed.
>
> Thanks,
> anirudh
>
> >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Anirudh Bhati]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur  wrote:
> Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept
> the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was
> decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got
> around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
> There are several reasons for this:

It was clearly not your fault.  You are a new user and I should have
migrated these files to the regular categories.  I am now removing
[[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]]
and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]].  All help is welcome,
these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if
they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new
one you can create those and add the cat to these files.  I'm no
expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful
power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can
help you out with that.

We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of
[[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would
make it easier for the users to add these categories easily.

>
> 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make
> Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.

Indeed.  A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of
images inspired creation of articles around important monuments.  See
[[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that).

>
> 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
> migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
> no one to judge whose image stays or goes.

Yes, indeed.

Thanks,
anirudh

>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Noopur]

Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We
kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really
got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
There are several reasons for this:

1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.

2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
no one to judge whose image stays or goes.

3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been
contemplating on things:
How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in
the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in
terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items?
Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so
that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware
or don't know how to)?

Do let me know what you guys think!
Regards
Noopur

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:

>  Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk
> happened, else I'd have helped.
> I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while keeping
> track of those identical images that should be deleted.
>
> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
> --
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530
> From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other
> events
>
>
> Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view
> all events are culprits.
>
> Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I
> shudder to think!
>
> Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till
> it is uploaded with :
> * proper description.
> * suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.
> * proper categorisation in Commons.
>
> Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end
> in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:
>
>  The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.
>
> The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of
> hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown
> others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the
> photothon never get realised.
>
>
> The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end
> only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good
> images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for
> Godot]]".
>
>
> Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're
> talking about something like this, right Ashwin?
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Konarak Ratnakar]

Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until the Ahmedabad photowalk happened, 
else I'd have helped.I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub 
categories, while keeping track of those identical images that should be 
deleted.
Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530
From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other      
events

Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view all 
events are culprits. 
Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I shudder 
to think!

Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it is 
uploaded with :* proper description.* suggested/recommended article for image 
use or for creation.* proper categorisation in Commons.

Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end in an 
uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur

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The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.  
The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of 
hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown 
others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the 
photothon never get realised.


The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only 
after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, 
catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for Godot]]".


Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're 
talking about something like this, right Ashwin? 

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Ashwin Baindur]

Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view
all events are culprits.

Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I
shudder to think!

Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till it
is uploaded with :
* proper description.
* suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.
* proper categorisation in Commons.

Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should end
in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote:

>  The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.
>
> The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of
> hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown
> others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the
> photothon never get realised.
>
>
> The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end
> only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good
> images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for
> Godot]]".
>
>
> Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're
> talking about something like this, right Ashwin?
>
> Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Pradeep Mohandas]

Hi,

I guess we need to do a photo categorization drive on Commons like the tag
& assess drive we're doing for wikiproject India.

Pradeep
Handheld
On Mar 13, 2012 7:15 PM, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:

> The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of
> hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown
> others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the
> photothon never get realised.
>
> The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end
> only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good
> images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for
> Godot]]".
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> what amount of Back end work was done
>>
>>
>> Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, "its
>> not sexy stuff" :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real
>> value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least
>> the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find
>> them useful.
>>
>> 2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective
>> of Wikipedia.
>>
>> 1. Usage :-
>>
>> Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the
>> articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons,
>> asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for
>> the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So
>> Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not
>> unused.
>>
>> Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel
>> happy about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which
>> added only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added
>> 628 files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for
>> the event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for
>> all, which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms
>> of tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other
>> benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc)
>>
>> If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be
>> most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats
>> with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added
>> manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its
>> just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but
>> still).  Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87%
>> usage, but jokes apart  Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has
>> done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the
>> ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally]
>>
>> Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not
>> possible to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a
>> decent success.
>>
>> 2. Naming and meta data :-
>>
>> A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it)
>> B. English Description (or Add it)
>> C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it)
>>
>> 3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing
>> is almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of
>> which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses
>> it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of
>> next few months, any help welcome :)
>>
>> Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed
>> section on learnings / best practices.
>>
>> On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there
>> has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4],
>> which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the
>> local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( )
>> There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I
>> found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to
>> local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects
>> across wikimedia universe can use it.
>>
>> Thanks for reading through.
>>
>> [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php
>> [2]
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India
>>
>> [3]
>> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition
>>
>>  [4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Konarak Ratnakar]

The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.  
The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of 
hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown 
others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the 
photothon never get realised.

The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only 
after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, 
catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for Godot]]".

Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're 
talking about something like this, right Ashwin? 
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[Ashwin Baindur]

The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of
hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown
others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the
photothon never get realised.

The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end
only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good
images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for
Godot]]".

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> what amount of Back end work was done
>
>
> Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, "its
> not sexy stuff" :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real
> value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least
> the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find
> them useful.
>
> 2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective
> of Wikipedia.
>
> 1. Usage :-
>
> Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the
> articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons,
> asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for
> the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So
> Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not
> unused.
>
> Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel happy
> about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which added
> only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added 628
> files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for the
> event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for all,
> which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms of
> tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other
> benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc)
>
> If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be
> most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats
> with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added
> manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its
> just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but
> still).  Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87%
> usage, but jokes apart  Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has
> done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the
> ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally]
>
> Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not possible
> to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a decent
> success.
>
> 2. Naming and meta data :-
>
> A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it)
> B. English Description (or Add it)
> C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it)
>
> 3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing is
> almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of
> which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses
> it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of
> next few months, any help welcome :)
>
> Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed
> section on learnings / best practices.
>
> On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there
> has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4],
> which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the
> local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( )
> There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I
> found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to
> local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects
> across wikimedia universe can use it.
>
> Thanks for reading through.
>
> [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php
> [2]
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India
>
> [3]
> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition
>
> [4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२
>
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> Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> what amount of Back end work was done


Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, "its
not sexy stuff" :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real
value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least
the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find
them useful.

2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective
of Wikipedia.

1. Usage :-

Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the
articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons,
asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for
the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So
Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not
unused.

Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel happy
about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which added
only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added 628
files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for the
event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for all,
which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms of
tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other
benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc)

If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be
most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats
with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added
manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its
just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but
still).  Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87%
usage, but jokes apart  Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has
done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the
ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally]

Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not possible
to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a decent
success.

2. Naming and meta data :-

A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it)
B. English Description (or Add it)
C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it)

3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing is
almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of
which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses
it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of
next few months, any help welcome :)

Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed
section on learnings / best practices.

On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there
has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4],
which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the
local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( )
There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I
found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to
local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects
across wikimedia universe can use it.

Thanks for reading through.

[1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php
[2]
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India
[3]
http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition

[4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Heya,
I guess, not everybody here may know about this, but back in 2009, we have
a phenomenally successful scavenger hunt called Wikipedia Takes Chennai.
THe link in question is :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai

Don't look at the Commons Category, there are only 31 files there.

This event was one of the first of it's kind in India, and was an
inspiration to many of us.
A quick glance at the talk page reveals a small fraction of what amount of
Back end work was done by several of us, including me.
We received a lot of FlickR donations as well. A heavy ton of this was
uploaded by Srikanth L and Ganesh K. Four were done by me. [YAY!]

Anyway, on this page, we were discussing various things, when GaneshK
posted a link to an article on WHY some people don't like contributing to
the Commons.
I believe this could be of help:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/arts/20funny.html
Wikipedia May Be a Font of Facts, but It’s a Desert for Photos
It is three years old though.

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Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on March 18th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spaceship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG
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