Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[David Gerard]

On 31 December 2011 21:54, Gordon Joly  wrote:

> OK. Sure. So why is Monmouth so different from London (UK)? As a
> project?


Work down to the borough level. Walthamstow has an active historical
society, for instance, who have churned out reams of highly citable
text. Start at the local library and local museums and work outwards.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Gordon Joly]

On 31/12/2011 21:20, Roger Bamkin wrote:
> Notability is still an issue Gordon. However the rules for places are 
> "its on a map" and we will do histioric buildings but not every 1960s 
> Church. AGF I think  you will be surprised. We pulled out 100 
> items at Derby Museum and none were challenged on notability.
>
> Roger.
OK. Sure. So why is Monmouth so different from London (UK)? As a 
project?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Roger Bamkin]

Notability is still an issue Gordon. However the rules for places are "its
on a map" and we will do histioric buildings but not every 1960s Church.
AGF I think  you will be surprised. We pulled out 100 items at Derby
Museum and none were challenged on notability.

Roger.

On 31 December 2011 21:11, Gordon Joly  wrote:

> **
>
>
> I am slightly bugged about this. Local history, local geography, down to
> very small granularity was frowned upon in years past...
>
> Onwards and upward?
>
> Gordo
>
>
>
>
>
> On 30/12/2011 17:14, Roger Bamkin wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County
> Council and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were
> partnering with - a*nd we should be mentioned*. I agree that John
> Cummings comment is spot on. He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a new
> Wikipedian. He is the only wikipedian as far as I know in Monmouth. We are
> going to try and pull off an amazing stunt of taking one Wikipedian and
> creating 1,000 QR codes in a town that has no other known editors. John
> cannot do this  Monmouth and Wikimedia UK can.
>
> Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and TV
> and we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer features.
> My own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The story "broke"
> because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon and the press ran
> with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea.
>
> The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much board
> time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just says "got
> it  lets do it". The only investment so far has been persuading "the
> town" that they want to do it. and we have had no one say No, nearly
> everyone has said "yes ... how can we help". We have had a few who wanted
> to think about it, but we made it clear that this wasn't an option. We
> already have a university, several societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and
> civic societies etc committed. Initial funding is agreed.
>
> This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It would
> be great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth articles or
> looked at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started helping.* I would
> request however that people resist giving "a quick lesson in what you are
> doing wrong" to a newbie until we have helped them four of five times. *
>
> Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how we
> collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone.
>
> I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me
> Roger
>
>
>
> On 30 December 2011 16:10, Thomas Dalton  wrote:
>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16359364
>>
>> I've just seen this article. I'd somehow missed this is the planning
>> stages (I was vaguely aware of some discussion about qr codes, but hadn't
>> realised anything had progressed this far) - it looks like a great idea.
>>
>> It's a good article too, I particularly like the quote from John about
>> being told he should implement his idea himself - that's exactly the
>> attitude wmuk should have and we should make everyone aware of that.
>>
>> The only thing I don't like about the article is that it makes it sound
>> like a Wikipedia project, rather than a Wikimedia UK project. It's not a
>> big deal, but we should try and get the chapter's role more emphasis.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Gordon Joly]

I am slightly bugged about this. Local history, local geography, down to 
very small granularity was frowned upon in years past...


Onwards and upward?

Gordo




On 30/12/2011 17:14, Roger Bamkin wrote:

Hi Tom,

I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County 
Council and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were 
partnering with - a*nd we should be mentioned*. I agree that John 
Cummings comment is spot on. He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a 
new Wikipedian. He is the only wikipedian as far as I know in 
Monmouth. We are going to try and pull off an amazing stunt of taking 
one Wikipedian and creating 1,000 QR codes in a town that has no other 
known editors. John cannot do this  Monmouth and Wikimedia UK can.


Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and 
TV and we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer 
features. My own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The 
story "broke" because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon 
and the press ran with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea.


The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much 
board time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just 
says "got it  lets do it". The only investment so far has been 
persuading "the town" that they want to do it. and we have had no 
one say No, nearly everyone has said "yes ... how can we help". We 
have had a few who wanted to think about it, but we made it clear that 
this wasn't an option. We already have a university, several 
societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and civic societies etc committed. 
Initial funding is agreed.


This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It 
would be great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth 
articles or looked at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started 
helping./I would request however that people resist giving "a quick 
lesson in what you are doing wrong" to a newbie until we have helped 
them four of five times. /


Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how 
we collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone.


I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me
Roger



On 30 December 2011 16:10, Thomas Dalton > wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16359364

I've just seen this article. I'd somehow missed this is the
planning stages (I was vaguely aware of some discussion about qr
codes, but hadn't realised anything had progressed this far) - it
looks like a great idea.

It's a good article too, I particularly like the quote from John
about being told he should implement his idea himself - that's
exactly the attitude wmuk should have and we should make everyone
aware of that.

The only thing I don't like about the article is that it makes it
sound like a Wikipedia project, rather than a Wikimedia UK
project. It's not a big deal, but we should try and get the
chapter's role more emphasis.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Richard Symonds]

I've just sent out an email to 15 supporters (ie, donors, current members
etc) who are from the Monmouth area. Hopefully we can get them involved too
- they'll be contacting John or i...@wikimedia.org.uk if they want to help.

Richard

On 31 December 2011 19:58, Charles Matthews  wrote:

>
>
> On 31 December 2011 13:57, Roger Bamkin  wrote:
>
>
>> I also searched ODNB for "Monmouth" and found so many with some tenuous
>> connection to Monmouth under "B" that I stopped looking. Lots of people
>> went to school in Monmouth as there are two posh schools there who trained
>> "people for the empire" 100 years ago and quite a few notables.
>>
>>
>> "Monmouthshire" in the ODNB full text is more reasonable - around 200
> hits and there are going to be fewer false positives in there. If someone
> can do a list of missing related DNB biographies (edition by 1912 to be PD
> text) then it could be posted to WP:WP DNB and we could have a look at it.
> This would be a way to get something new up quickly.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Charles Matthews]

On 31 December 2011 13:57, Roger Bamkin  wrote:


> I also searched ODNB for "Monmouth" and found so many with some tenuous
> connection to Monmouth under "B" that I stopped looking. Lots of people
> went to school in Monmouth as there are two posh schools there who trained
> "people for the empire" 100 years ago and quite a few notables.
>
>
> "Monmouthshire" in the ODNB full text is more reasonable - around 200 hits
and there are going to be fewer false positives in there. If someone can do
a list of missing related DNB biographies (edition by 1912 to be PD text)
then it could be posted to WP:WP DNB and we could have a look at it. This
would be a way to get something new up quickly.

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Roger Bamkin]

[[HMS *Monmouth* (1796)]] is at Did You Know. Our 2nd! Its a tenuous link
to Monmouth, but its there. Thanks to Chris.

On 31 December 2011 16:23, Thomas Dalton  wrote:

> On 31 December 2011 16:15, Rod Ward  wrote:
> > I did have a problem getting the Monmouthshire map to work in the
> infobox so
> > it currently has the Wales map instead.
>
> Fixed. The map is called "Wales Monmouthshire" rather than
> "Monmouthshire" for some reason.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Thomas Dalton]

On 31 December 2011 16:15, Rod Ward  wrote:
> I did have a problem getting the Monmouthshire map to work in the infobox so
> it currently has the Wales map instead.

Fixed. The map is called "Wales Monmouthshire" rather than
"Monmouthshire" for some reason.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Rod Ward]

Ø  Monmouth Castle - Go for it!

 

The castle article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monmouth_Castle has a bit
of an expansion – but could do with more from others.

I did have a problem getting the Monmouthshire map to work in the infobox so
it currently has the Wales map instead.

 

I also came across the article for the Great Castle House
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Castle_House) which hadn’t been tagged
for Monmouthpedia so there may be other relevant articles still to be
spotted.

 

Rod

 

From: Roger Bamkin [mailto:victuall...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 31 December 2011 11:33
To: r...@rodspace.co.uk; wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: john cummings
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

 

Great to see this interest! I also have editors ready to translate when we
have some improved articles.

We have the Archaeological Society "signed up". They tell me that we can
"have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011.. 

I've included John on the list to make sure he knows and he can hopefully
forward the requests. I know its not very easy but it is possible.
 As far as interpretation goes. Derby Museum used the rule that if the
article had a link then it was relevant. So a bio of an artist who cad stuff
in [[Derby Museum]] was relevant

So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky to
link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]

John is looking for someone who can do some grome-ish stuff. He wants to
allow editors to claim points for writing articles. There is a proven system
at the GLAM/Derby page
 .
Does someone fancy moving the important bits to the MonmouthpediA page
  and zeroing
everything so we are ready to allow editors to claim points etc.???

Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
Monmouth Castle - Go for it! 
There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may be
local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.

If we can make a new or 5x expanded article then I'll get it on DYK - has to
be done in <5 days

MonmouthpediA is to be on Radio 4 on Tuesday - be nice to say we are getting
into 2nd gear

Thanks for the interest
Happy New Year!
Roger B

On 31 December 2011 09:25, Rod Ward  wrote:

I would agree about the difficulty of getting access to local sources
(although I might have a go at Monmouth Castle which deserves a better
article than it has got), but I wondered how broadly Monmouthpedia is being
interpreted?

The Monmouth Rebellion is relevant to my neck of the woods - but probably
not that significant for the town - would that be included?

Rod



The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to
write local history about your local area (your local library will
have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far
more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a
fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local
Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for
articles.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Chris Keating]

> Aah I thought it unusual that you'd name ships after an illigitamete
> traitorous Duke  although in time all is forgiven
>
>
Interestingly enough, one of the HMS Monmouths was quite treasonous as
well, taking part in the Nore Mutiny in 1797. Afterwards, while she was
sailing to battle at Camperdown, her new captain exhorted the crew to "wash
the stain off your character with the blood of your foes."

Don't you love it when two outreach projects overlap? ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HMS_Monmouth_%281796%29&action=historysubmit&diff=468751857&oldid=463199366

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Roger Bamkin]

Aah I thought it unusual that you'd name ships after an illigitamete
traitorous Duke  although in time all is forgiven

Oh I found the presentation that John and I gave to Monmouth

its here

http://www.slideshare.net/RogerBamkin/monmouthpedia

On 31 December 2011 14:32, Richard Symonds  wrote:

> The ship... is, sometimes. The most recent one is technically named for
> the duke, although the previous five were named for the town. The current
> one is also officially affiliated with the town.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Monmouthshire_Royal_Engineers is also
> still, basically, a stub... would be nice to get it to GA!
>
> Richard
>
> On 31 December 2011 12:36, Andrew Gray  wrote:
>
>> On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin  wrote:
>>
>> > So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie
>> tricky to
>> > link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]
>>
>> In a slightly convoluted mode, I believe the ship is as well. (At some
>> point in the past few centuries it was decided that he was All Right
>> After All, etc.)
>>
>> > Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
>> > Monmouth Castle - Go for it!
>> > There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may
>> be
>> > local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.
>>
>> Is there a WP Monmouth[shire]? If not, this may be a good idea to
>> kickstart one - identify relevant articles, start projecttagging, etc.
>>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Richard Symonds]

The ship... is, sometimes. The most recent one is technically named for the
duke, although the previous five were named for the town. The current one
is also officially affiliated with the town.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Monmouthshire_Royal_Engineers is also
still, basically, a stub... would be nice to get it to GA!

Richard

On 31 December 2011 12:36, Andrew Gray  wrote:

> On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin  wrote:
>
> > So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky
> to
> > link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]
>
> In a slightly convoluted mode, I believe the ship is as well. (At some
> point in the past few centuries it was decided that he was All Right
> After All, etc.)
>
> > Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
> > Monmouth Castle - Go for it!
> > There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may
> be
> > local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.
>
> Is there a WP Monmouth[shire]? If not, this may be a good idea to
> kickstart one - identify relevant articles, start projecttagging, etc.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Roger Bamkin]

Oh yes - Wikisource has stuff to load and the museum have offered 10,000
pictures for commons.

This is a "Quid pro quo" deal

Mike's stuff looks interesting. I also searched ODNB for "Monmouth" and
found so many with some tenuous connection to Monmouth under "B" that I
stopped looking. Lots of people went to school in Monmouth as there are two
posh schools there who trained "people for the empire" 100 years ago and
quite a few notables.

On 31 December 2011 13:47, Michael Peel wrote:

>
> On 31 Dec 2011, at 11:32, Roger Bamkin wrote:
>
> > We have the Archaeological Society "signed up". They tell me that we can
> "have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011..
>
> Is there a link here with Wikisource? Do they have digitized documents
> that could be hosted there? Or is there scope for a crowdsourced
> digitisation project here?
>
> I've done a quick scout around Wikisource and archive.org to see what's
> there, but there isn't too much:
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Monmouth
> Mostly focused on Geoffrey of Monmouth. There's a book related to the
> [[Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers]] available on archive, which Richard
> might be interested in.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Michael Peel]

On 31 Dec 2011, at 11:32, Roger Bamkin wrote:

> We have the Archaeological Society "signed up". They tell me that we can 
> "have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011.. 

Is there a link here with Wikisource? Do they have digitized documents that 
could be hosted there? Or is there scope for a crowdsourced digitisation 
project here?

I've done a quick scout around Wikisource and archive.org to see what's there, 
but there isn't too much:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Monmouth
Mostly focused on Geoffrey of Monmouth. There's a book related to the [[Royal 
Monmouthshire Royal Engineers]] available on archive, which Richard might be 
interested in.

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Roger Bamkin]

Andrew G - type monmouthpedia in to wikipedia or
monmouthpedia.org into browser

There is the project page

@David Gerard - Thanks very much - the slides are at Monmouthpedia in
Slideshare. The argument goes -

   - we've done a museum, we can do your town
   - Monmouth societies publish things for "their mums and mates" - we'll
   give you thousands of readers
   - Google ranking - how does it work? ... Links.. what do we supply ...
   links
   - Why are you copyrighting your images - don't you want people to use
   them?
   - How much money are you making from your copyright protection excatly?
   - Can you find Monmouth Museum on a map in Spanish  why not?

Wikicup bot? Thats exactly what we need!!!

On 31 December 2011 12:36, Andrew Gray  wrote:

> On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin  wrote:
>
> > So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky
> to
> > link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]
>
> In a slightly convoluted mode, I believe the ship is as well. (At some
> point in the past few centuries it was decided that he was All Right
> After All, etc.)
>
> > Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
> > Monmouth Castle - Go for it!
> > There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may
> be
> > local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.
>
> Is there a WP Monmouth[shire]? If not, this may be a good idea to
> kickstart one - identify relevant articles, start projecttagging, etc.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Andrew Gray]

On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin  wrote:

> So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky to
> link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]

In a slightly convoluted mode, I believe the ship is as well. (At some
point in the past few centuries it was decided that he was All Right
After All, etc.)

> Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
> Monmouth Castle - Go for it!
> There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may be
> local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.

Is there a WP Monmouth[shire]? If not, this may be a good idea to
kickstart one - identify relevant articles, start projecttagging, etc.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Harry Burt]

Seconded - that's fantastic news!

Also, I might as well put it on record that I am more than happy to help
with any bot programming that might be of use during these sort of
initiatives. (I was reminded by the idea of scoring, having spent this
morning updating the WikiCup bot to a 2012 specification, but you name, I'd
be happy to contribute.)

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On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:45 AM, David Gerard  wrote:

> On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin  wrote:
>
> > We have the Archaeological Society "signed up". They tell me that we can
> > "have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011..
>
>
> HUGE WIN! What was the process of convincing them? That's definitely
> one to duplicate!
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[David Gerard]

On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin  wrote:

> We have the Archaeological Society "signed up". They tell me that we can
> "have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011..


HUGE WIN! What was the process of convincing them? That's definitely
one to duplicate!


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Roger Bamkin]

Great to see this interest! I also have editors ready to translate when we
have some improved articles.

We have the Archaeological Society "signed up". They tell me that we can
"have the lot" - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011..

I've included John on the list to make sure he knows and he can hopefully
forward the requests. I know its not very easy but it is possible.
 As far as interpretation goes. Derby Museum used the rule that if the
article had a link then it was relevant. So a bio of an artist who cad
stuff in [[Derby Museum]] was relevant

So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky to
link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]

John is looking for someone who can do some grome-ish stuff. He wants to
allow editors to claim points for writing articles. There is a proven
system at the GLAM/Derby
page.
Does someone fancy moving the important bits to the MonmouthpediA
pageand
zeroing everything so we are ready to allow editors to claim points
etc.???

Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
Monmouth Castle - Go for it!
There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may be
local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.

If we can make a new or 5x expanded article then I'll get it on DYK - has
to be done in <5 days

MonmouthpediA is to be on Radio 4 on Tuesday - be nice to say we are
getting into 2nd gear

Thanks for the interest
Happy New Year!
Roger B

On 31 December 2011 09:25, Rod Ward  wrote:

> I would agree about the difficulty of getting access to local sources
> (although I might have a go at Monmouth Castle which deserves a better
> article than it has got), but I wondered how broadly Monmouthpedia is being
> interpreted?
>
> The Monmouth Rebellion is relevant to my neck of the woods - but probably
> not that significant for the town - would that be included?
>
> Rod
>
>
> The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to
> write local history about your local area (your local library will
> have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far
> more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a
> fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local
> Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for
> articles.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Rod Ward]

I would agree about the difficulty of getting access to local sources
(although I might have a go at Monmouth Castle which deserves a better
article than it has got), but I wondered how broadly Monmouthpedia is being
interpreted?

The Monmouth Rebellion is relevant to my neck of the woods - but probably
not that significant for the town - would that be included?

Rod


The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to
write local history about your local area (your local library will
have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far
more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a
fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local
Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for
articles.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[geni]

On 30 December 2011 17:14, Roger Bamkin  wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> I'm feeling good as I just had a press release from Monmouth County Council
> and I made the point that it was "Wikimedia UK" they were partnering with -
> and we should be mentioned. I agree that John Cummings comment is spot on.
> He isnt a Wikipedia old lag but quite a new Wikipedian. He is the only
> wikipedian as far as I know in Monmouth. We are going to try and pull off an
> amazing stunt of taking one Wikipedian and creating 1,000 QR codes in a town
> that has no other known editors. John cannot do this  Monmouth and
> Wikimedia UK can.
>
> Lots of coverage to day from The Next Web et al, BBC Wales Radio and TV and
> we're on Radio 4 next week. We also have "promises" of longer features. My
> own target is that we get a TV programme out of this. The story "broke"
> because John got a bit published in the Monmouth Beacon and the press ran
> with it. I'm not surprised, this a "meme" of an idea.
>
> The project has not been hidden but I guess it has not occupied much board
> time as the idea is so simple and everyone I've spoklen to just says "got it
>  lets do it". The only investment so far has been persuading "the town"
> that they want to do it. and we have had no one say No, nearly everyone
> has said "yes ... how can we help". We have had a few who wanted to think
> about it, but we made it clear that this wasn't an option. We already have a
> university, several societies, 2/3 museums, councillors and civic societies
> etc committed. Initial funding is agreed.
>
> This is a great chance for Wikimedia UK to show what it can do. It would be
> great if some of our members searched out some Monmouth articles or looked
> at the Monmouthpedia project pages and started helping. I would request
> however that people resist giving "a quick lesson in what you are doing
> wrong" to a newbie until we have helped them four of five times.
>
> Anybody got some time to assist? It would be great to demonstrate how we
> collaborate to create something better then any of us can do alone.
>
> I'm (desperately) hoping someone surprises me
> Roger
>

The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to
write local history about your local area (your local library will
have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far
more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a
fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local
Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for
articles.

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