[Wikisource-l] Re: 2021 report

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Ankry, Asaf and all,

On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group (WBG), I can send formal
request to Wikisource User Group to become a partner in all Wikisource
related events organized by WBG. For last 4 years, WBG had been running
several proofread contests and campaigns on Bengali Wikisource, bringing
GLAM institutional and other partnerships and generating general awareness
around Wikisource and if it requires a formal declaration to involve
Wikisource user group into these initiatives, we will be very happy to do
that. We will not ask anything in return but if some expertise, guidance
and connections are provided by Wikisource user group members at those
events, that would be great for us.
All WBG events related to Wikisource will then can be easily incorporated
into Wikisource user group annual reports in future without any issue.

If this proposal seems OK to you all, please let me know and I will start
the process from our side as soon as possible.

Regards,
Bodhisattva
On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021, 21:38 J Hayes  wrote:

> +1
> The report as written is fine with me.
> Jim hayes
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 5:57 AM Ankry  wrote:
>
>> I think that information like "WCUG member X presented a session on Y at
>> event Z" would be hard to manage in this form as (1) we have no formally
>> managed membership at the moment (maybe we should change this and ask
>> interested people for formal declarations at regular intervals? - the list
>> on meta is unmaintained and contains initial declarations only) and (2)
>> most of us are also members of other formal affiliates and while our
>> activity in specific fields can be separated internally, this separation
>> would be not verifiable without clear declarations of these members (should
>> we ask them for such declarations concerning any Wikisource related
>> activity?)
>>
>> For example, while I am a member of WMPL and participated in the
>> organization committee of Źródłosłów 2021, I clearly declared to WMPL that
>> I represent the community, not WMPL during the organizational process. But
>> neither information about roles of the conference organizing committee
>> members, nor this declaration is anywhere in public. Only the results of
>> this activity are public.
>>
>> And I am active in WMPL in non-Wikisource related fields and also in some
>> Wikisource-related fields.
>>
>> Ankry
>> W dniu 13.11.2021 o 20:12, Asaf Bartov pisze:
>>
>> Thank you for starting the report, Ankry!
>>
>> I think it should be clear what the user group is claiming as an
>> activity.  For instance, was the usergroup involved in the creation of the
>> Balinese and Javanese Wikisource projects, mentioned under "Milestones"?
>> If so, the report should explain how the group was involved; if it is just
>> a mention of a milestone for Wikisource (as distinct from a milestone for
>> the Wikisource Community User Group), it should be clearly separated from
>> the main section of the report, which should be devoted to activities and
>> communications of the WCUG.
>>
>> Likewise, was the user group involved in planning or organizing the
>> events mentioned? If so, it should be stated explicitly.  (And if the
>> involvement was only that a member of the user group presented at the
>> event, then *that* should be stated explicitly (e.g. "WCUG member X
>> presented a session on Y at event Z"), avoiding the impression the event
>> itself is [co-]organized by the user group.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> A.
>>
>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>
>> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>>
>> Wikimedia Foundation 
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:11 PM Satdeep Gill 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the link to the report:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/2021_Report
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Satdeep
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 7:57 PM Ankry  wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 As we are close to the end of this year, I started preparing the 2021
 WCUG annual report. Formally, it is due end of November.

 If anyone participated or organized some Wikisource events, please add
 appropriate sections.

 Cheers,
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[Wikisource-l] 2nd proofread contest in collaboration with British Library ended today on Bengali Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello,

As you might know, the Two Centuries of Indian Print (2CIP) project of
British Library and West Bengal Wikimedians User Group are having a GLAM
partnership for almost a year now. The 2CIP collection of public domain
Bengali books are getting uploaded on Wikimedia Commons and then getting
proofread on Bengali Wikisource. Details can be found here -
https://bn.wikisource.org/s/h1zc

In this regard. two long proofread contests had been organized this year to
let Bengali Wikisource volunteers focus on these books. The first contest
was held during March-April this year. (Link -
https://bn.wikisource.org/s/gwek ) The second proofread contest which ran
for 3 months from September 1, 2021 to November 30, 2021 just ended at
midnight. (Link - https://bn.wikisource.org/s/gwen .) In these two
contests, around 5500 pages were proofread in total.

We will not conduct any more proofread contests this year or early next
year giving break to our competition participants. Considering our small
workforce, we will also utilise this break to clear our maintenance
backlogs as much as possible. The GLAM partnership will go on by having
more 2CIP books uploaded on Commons, engaging with OpenRefine team to help
build a robust system for book uploads along with metadata management,
engaging with WMF community programs and machine learning teams to find
ways to negotiate with Transkribus etc. and so on. A full activity report
will be published soon in February next year by the user group.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
(On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group)
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[Wikisource-l] Re: 2021 report

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Asaf,

Personally I have always felt while reading the previous annual activity
reports that the Wikisource user group operates more like a thematic hub of
Wikisource communities rather than an affiliate itself. Many affiliates and
communities who organize Wikisource related events and projects come
together and write their stories in the Wikisource user group annual
reports, even if there had been no formal communications with Wikisource
user group for those events. I think, that is totally fine considering the
special place for Wikisource user group in all Wikisource communities.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa




On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 00:43 Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Thank you for starting the report, Ankry!
>
> I think it should be clear what the user group is claiming as an
> activity.  For instance, was the usergroup involved in the creation of the
> Balinese and Javanese Wikisource projects, mentioned under "Milestones"?
> If so, the report should explain how the group was involved; if it is just
> a mention of a milestone for Wikisource (as distinct from a milestone for
> the Wikisource Community User Group), it should be clearly separated from
> the main section of the report, which should be devoted to activities and
> communications of the WCUG.
>
> Likewise, was the user group involved in planning or organizing the events
> mentioned? If so, it should be stated explicitly.  (And if the involvement
> was only that a member of the user group presented at the event, then
> *that* should be stated explicitly (e.g. "WCUG member X presented a session
> on Y at event Z"), avoiding the impression the event itself is
> [co-]organized by the user group.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> A.
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation 
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 7:11 PM Satdeep Gill 
> wrote:
>
>> Here is the link to the report:
>>
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/2021_Report
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Satdeep
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 7:57 PM Ankry  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> As we are close to the end of this year, I started preparing the 2021
>>> WCUG annual report. Formally, it is due end of November.
>>>
>>> If anyone participated or organized some Wikisource events, please add
>>> appropriate sections.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>Ankry
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[Wikisource-l] Submit a session for WikidataCon 2021

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello all,

After the first two editions in 2017
 and 2019
, the WikidataCon
is taking place again from 29 October to 31 October 2021, but this time it
will be an online event. You can find the details in the event page here -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikidataCon_2021

The call for proposals to present a session on the second and third day of
the conference is now open until 20 October 2021 (midnight anywhere on
earth). You are welcome to submit a session in this link -
https://pretalx.com/wdcon21/submit/beTaVM/info/

The program will have tracks like Sister Project, GLAM, Reimaging Wikidata,
Tips and Tools which can very well accommodate the Wikisource-Wikidata
integration and other related works.

Regards,

Bodhisattwa

(On behalf of WikidataCon 2021)
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[Wikisource-l] Proofread competition starts on Bengali Wikisource in collaboration with British Library

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello all,

We are excited to announce a 3-months long proofread competition which will
run on Bangla Wikisource from September 1 to November 30, 2021 as a result
of an ongoing GLAM collaboration between the Two Centuries of Indian Print
(2CIP) project of the British Library (BL) and the West Bengal Wikimedians
User Group (WBG). This is the second proofread competition under the GLAM
project, the first one happened in March-April.

The event page of the competition is here - https://bn.wikisource.org/s/gwen
(in Bangla)
The GLAM event page is here - https://bn.wikisource.org/s/gt5i (also in
Bangla)

Under the project, 2CIP officials will be uploading public domain Bangla
books from their collection on Wikimedia Commons and our volunteers will
take care of the rest of the work from indexing, proofreading, transcluding
etc. on Wikisource along with building their data on Wikidata. The prizes
to the top 5 winners for this competition will be sent by WBG and BL will
send digital certificates to each one of them.

For those who are interested to learn more about the project, there is a
video recording of the Wikimania session on this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlYepYs3yw (2:32 - 7:42)

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
(On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group)
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[Wikisource-l] Re: Wikisource meetup at Wikimania Unconforence

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello,

Till now, two tables have been booked for Wikisource meetup by respective
community members.
1) Indic Wikisource - 14th August 2 pm UTC (also friendly for European
timezones)
2) Indonesian Wikisource - 15th August 12:30 pm UTC (also friendly for
European timezones)

Please feel free to reserve slot for US friendly timezones or another
specific for European communities. The link is here -
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2021:Unconference

Please note, today is the last date of registration to access Wikimania
space at Remo.

Best,



On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 18:33, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Wikisource meetup for Indian communities will happen on 14th August 2
> pm IST at the Incompetence building. Please feel free to book a slot for
> Europe friendly timezone.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 13:28 Thomas Pellissier Tanon <
> tho...@pellissier-tanon.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> It's a great idea! Thank you for moving it forward!
>>
>> What about planning two meetups, one in India/Europe time zones and
>> one in US time (maybe also in a european-compatible timezone)? This
>> way we would hopefully cover most of the interested people.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> Le mer. 28 juil. 2021 à 06:54, Bodhisattwa Mandal
>>  a écrit :
>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > Is it ok for all, if I book slot(s) at Wikimania Unconference for
>> Wikisource meetup? If yes, what would be the preferred date and time? Or
>> can we have multiple meetups to accommodate all timezones?
>> >
>> > The tables in the Unconference can only accommodate 20 people max. So,
>> if there are enough interested Wikisourcers, multiple tables can also be
>> booked for a given period of time, but the inherent structure of the Remo
>> platform will prevent inter-table interaction among participants, which is
>> the only disadvantage.
>> >
>> > Please share your thoughts on how to move forward.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Bodhisattwa
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[Wikisource-l] Re: Wikisource meetup at Wikimania Unconforence

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

The Wikisource meetup for Indian communities will happen on 14th August 2
pm IST at the Incompetence building. Please feel free to book a slot for
Europe friendly timezone.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 13:28 Thomas Pellissier Tanon <
tho...@pellissier-tanon.fr> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> It's a great idea! Thank you for moving it forward!
>
> What about planning two meetups, one in India/Europe time zones and
> one in US time (maybe also in a european-compatible timezone)? This
> way we would hopefully cover most of the interested people.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
> Le mer. 28 juil. 2021 à 06:54, Bodhisattwa Mandal
>  a écrit :
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Is it ok for all, if I book slot(s) at Wikimania Unconference for
> Wikisource meetup? If yes, what would be the preferred date and time? Or
> can we have multiple meetups to accommodate all timezones?
> >
> > The tables in the Unconference can only accommodate 20 people max. So,
> if there are enough interested Wikisourcers, multiple tables can also be
> booked for a given period of time, but the inherent structure of the Remo
> platform will prevent inter-table interaction among participants, which is
> the only disadvantage.
> >
> > Please share your thoughts on how to move forward.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bodhisattwa
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[Wikisource-l] Wikisource meetup at Wikimania Unconforence

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello all,

Is it ok for all, if I book slot(s) at Wikimania Unconference
 for Wikisource
meetup? If yes, what would be the preferred date and time? Or can we have
multiple meetups to accommodate all timezones?

The tables in the Unconference can only accommodate 20 people max. So, if
there are enough interested Wikisourcers, multiple tables can also be
booked for a given period of time, but the inherent structure of the Remo
platform will prevent inter-table interaction among participants, which is
the only disadvantage.

Please share your thoughts on how to move forward.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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[Wikisource-l] Wikimania 2021 session submission forms are open

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Dear Wikimedians,

We are excited to share some updates with you regarding Wikimania 2021.


Session Submission forms are now live until 18 June, 2021 for both
individuals and affiliates! If you’re looking  to lead a session at
Wikimania 2021, please check the following links:

   - Program Submissions
   
  - Session Submission Guidelines
  
  - FAQ
  

-


-

Wikimania 2021 Wiki Page  is
also now LIVE, you can now refer to this page for all information regarding
Wikimania 2021! However, it is a live and under construction page. You are
most welcome to suggest any improvement of the page.
-

We look forward to receiving your submissions and suggestions.

Have a great weekend and see you all soon.

Best Wishes,

Bodhisattwa,

(on behalf of the Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team)
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Stepping down as an admin for the list

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

+1000 to what Mohsen said.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 21:11 Mardetanha  wrote:

> .hey Andrea
> it is very nice to hear from you and it is also very upsetting to learn
> you are not active as before, if you need help I can help you with mailing
> list, but please stay
> Mardetanha
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:45 PM Andrea Zanni 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> it's few years that I'm no longer involved in Wikimedia (at least not as
>> much as before), but I'm still admin of a few lists ;-)
>>
>> Does anyone want to take care of this one?
>> I'm not doing a good job and would love to let others curate it more than
>> I do.
>>
>> Let me know.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Aubrey
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofread contest in collaboration with British Library on Bengali Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello all,


The contest has started today and it will go on for next one month.

Tom Derrick, the digital curator of the Two Centuries of Indian Print
project of British Library, has published a blog post about it on BL
website.

https://blogs.bl.uk/digital-scholarship/2021/03/wikisource-competition-to-proofread-indian-books.html

BL has also tweeted:
https://twitter.com/BL_IndianPrint/status/1371427115850215424

Regards,

Bodhisattwa

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 20:07 Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are happy to announce that the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group [1]
> will run a proofread contest [2] from 15 March 2021 to 14 April 2021 on
> Bengali Wikisource in collaboration with Two Centuries of Indian Print
> project (TCIP) [3] of British Library.
>
> The TCIP project officials are uploading the public domain books under
> their collection on Wikimedia Commons [4]. From the user group, we are
> working on the next steps like renaming files, indexing, metadata related
> work on Wikidata etc. and will be organizing the event.
>
> The top five winners will receive T-shirts and/or books from the user
> group and digital certificates from British Library.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
> On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians
> [2] https://bn.wikisource.org/s/gpia
> [3] https://www.bl.uk/projects/two-centuries-of-indian-print
> [4]
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Two_Centuries_of_Indian_Print
>
>
>
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[Wikisource-l] Proofread contest in collaboration with British Library on Bengali Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello,

We are happy to announce that the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group [1]
will run a proofread contest [2] from 15 March 2021 to 14 April 2021 on
Bengali Wikisource in collaboration with Two Centuries of Indian Print
project (TCIP) [3] of British Library.

The TCIP project officials are uploading the public domain books under
their collection on Wikimedia Commons [4]. From the user group, we are
working on the next steps like renaming files, indexing, metadata related
work on Wikidata etc. and will be organizing the event.

The top five winners will receive T-shirts and/or books from the user group
and digital certificates from British Library.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians
[2] https://bn.wikisource.org/s/gpia
[3] https://www.bl.uk/projects/two-centuries-of-indian-print
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Two_Centuries_of_Indian_Print
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[Wikisource-l] Register for Wikimedia Wikimeet India 2021

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello Wikisourcers,

Wikimedia Wikimeet India 2021, an Indian online event,  will take place
from 19 to 21 February. The event page is here:-
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Wikimeet_India_2021

The tentative program schedule is published -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Wikimeet_India_2021/Program .

Registration for the event is open for Wikimedians from all over the world
till 16 February. Please feel free to register here -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Wikimeet_India_2021/Registration

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On behalf of WMWM 2021
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Various news

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

As noone has responded to the badly needed request from Nicolas since
November to be a primary contact person for the Wikisource User Group, I
can volunteer to take the responsibility for now until someone from the
Wikisource community expresses interest and take over. If there are any
objections or comments, please feel free to do so.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 21:25 Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I hope you're all well.
>
> I'm sorry I didn't post for a long time, so here is some news (not
> exhaustive, feel free to answer with your own news):
> - first and foremost, the Wishlist is back and it starts next Monday:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021 let's
> gather our best idea again this year!
> - as usual, if you did something related to Wikisource, don't hesitate to
> add it on
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/2020_Report
> (especially in this strange year, if you did some online activities, I'd
> love to hear about it!)
> - an "Affiliates Data Survey" run by mail and by the Foundation is coming;
> I'll get in touch with you soon, if you are interested to share your
> experience with the Wikisource community, feel free to contact me in
> private.
> - here is a very interesting and promising project to improve
> Wikidata-Wikisource Integration :
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicite/grant/Improving_Wikidata-Wikisource_Integration
>
> Finally, as an official user group, the Foundation requires 2 primary
> contacts, for now (and since a long time), I'm the only contact, which is
> problematic.
> Also, for me, I'd be happy to have some help ;)
> Are there any candidates?
>
> Cheers,
> For the WCUG,
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[Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Wikimeet India 2021

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello all,

CIS-A2K is planning to organize a 3-days long online event which is to be
called WIkimedia Wikimeet India 2021 (WMWM) from 19th to 21st February,
2021 on the occasion of International Mother Language Day. Find more
details here - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Wikimeet_India_2021

We are excited to announce that Wikisource will be one of the major areas
of focus on the event. We sincerely hope that the experienced volunteers
from the global Wikisource community will play a major role in planning and
conducting quality Wikisource sessions there.

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Automatic text tagging and annotation

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Amir,

Coming from a community with not much volunteer force, I actually want any
strategy which involves minimal human interference into the tagging
process, as we can't afford to spread our thin line.

Your first option looks more inclined to what I was trying to say. However,
I understand that there will be possibilities of errors or ambiguities and
need some level of human check system anyway.

Personally, I would love the third option but looks like it requires more
engineering than the other two, forgive me if I am wrong. So considering
the lack of initiatives in this area in the past, I would stick to the
first one as a more practical approach for now.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 02:18 Amir E. Aharoni 
wrote:

> Do you mean that templates (or some other annotation syntax) will be added
> to wikitext, just not by humans?
>
> Or suggested by software, and added to wikitext after being confirmed by
> humans?
>
> Or not added to wikitext at all and stored separately somewhere?
>
> בתאריך יום ג׳, 28 ביולי 2020, 18:36, מאת Bodhisattwa Mandal ‏<
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to know if any Wikisource community has moved forward to
>> *automatically[1]* tag or annotate Wikisource texts or has any plans to
>> do so.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bodhisattwa
>>
>> [1] (without manually adding annotation templates)
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Automatic text tagging and annotation

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Thanks Nicolas.

Nemo, for now, any persons, places, creative works, events etc. mentioned
in the Wikisource texts and have Wikidata items.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 00:17 Federico Leva (Nemo)  wrote:

> What kind of tagging and annotation do you have in mind?
>
> Federico
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[Wikisource-l] Automatic text tagging and annotation

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hello,

I would like to know if any Wikisource community has moved forward to
*automatically[1]* tag or annotate Wikisource texts or has any plans to do
so.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

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Re: [Wikisource-l] [Brand Project] Next naming phase

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Wikisourcers,

An open letter
 has
been published on meta an hour ago asking WMF to pause or stop the renaming
activities. The letter was drafted collaboratively after the All-Affiliates
Brand Meeting 
which happened two days ago. If the Wikisource User Group collectively or
any Wikisourcers individually agree with the letter, you are invited to
sign there.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 22:05, J Hayes  wrote:

> Well, people wonder about what might have beens, when WMF is changing
> branding to where movement was 10 years ago.
> WMF is showing its conservative approach meeting readers where they are,
> rather than shaping brand of where we want to go. And collecting money from
> large donors.
> We need some branding for where we want wikisource to go. Can we have some
> wikisource t-shirts with Indic languages on it? My vienna t-shirt is
> getting old.
> Cheers.
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 7:54 AM Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
>> Greetings and good day,
>> >> What you have to ask yourself: If it had been named "Wikipedia
>> Foundation"
>> >> from the start, would you have left it?
>> – That's citing an imaginary situation while dealing with a real problem.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tito Dutta
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 03:44, Lars Aronsson  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-06-19 09:58, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>>> > All three options remove the term "Wikimedia" to replace it by
>>> > "Wikipedia" and indeed, there is no statu quo option...
>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion, it was a mistake in 2003, when the foundation was
>>> established,
>>> to invent a new name for it. If it had been called "Wikipedia
>>> Foundation" from
>>> the start, it would have been so much easier to explain to friends,
>>> collaboration
>>> partners and donors what we are. We are a foundation to support Wikipedia
>>> (and also its sister projects). Wikisource, Wiktionary and the rest are
>>> just that:
>>> They are sister projects to Wikipedia, always were, always have been.
>>>
>>> Only Wikipedia is the groundbreaking innovation that could win the Nobel
>>> Prize
>>> (for peace, perhaps?). None of the sister projects could qualify for
>>> this.
>>> While Wikisource is great, we should be humble and grateful that we can
>>> benefit from all the money and technology around Wikipedia, including
>>> events like Wikimania.
>>>
>>> What you have to ask yourself: If it had been named "Wikipedia
>>> Foundation"
>>> from the start, would you have left it? Would you have left Wikisource,
>>> in
>>> order to administrate your own, separate, independent project? Asaf
>>> Bartov
>>> does this with Project Ben-Yehuda. I do this with Project Runeberg. These
>>> are not part of Wikisource, not part of the Wikipedia/-media movement.
>>> But we never broke away from Wikisource. The reason we maintain our
>>> own projects is because they are older than Wikisource. It is a lot of
>>> extra
>>> work to administrate your own project. If this kind of extra
>>> administration
>>> is your mission in life, perhaps you should leave Wikisource and run your
>>> own? See how fun that is.
>>>
>>> In my case, I could close down Project Runeberg and merge with
>>> Wikisource,
>>> if it weren't for some differences in licensing. Much of what I have
>>> digitized
>>> there can not fit in Wikisource. And so I continue to carry the extra
>>> burden
>>> of administrating my own project. But it's not because I hate the
>>> Wikipedia
>>> movement or Wikisource. On the contrary, I was active in establishing
>>> the Swedish chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation in 2007. And I have spent
>>> too much time explaining the difference between Wikipedia and Wikimedia.
>>>
>>> I wish it had been named "Wikipedia Foundation" from the start. When the
>>> burden of dual names was obvious in 2015, I wish the foundation had just
>>> renamed itself quickly without asking anyone. It would have been
>>> criticized,
>>> but now it is criticized anyway after very long and slow process, so no
>>> gain.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>Lars Aronsson (l...@aronsson.se)
>>>Linköping, Sweden
>>>
>>>Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] [Brand Project] Next naming phase

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Nicolas,

I don't think our voices really matter in this case. Check the RfC, people
are still voting against 'Wikipedia' as a brand name, but the survey has
only one option which is three variants of Wikipedia. It doesn't even have
the option of status quo. This is very frustrating to say, but this is the
truth that we cannot change anything through this survey or participating
in the process, as the outcome is already decided. The process is just an
eye-wash to show that the community was consulted.

Personally I feel, this whole process is completely biased, pre-decided and
non-transparent. There is no point wasting time here.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 16:10 Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi y'all,
>
> In case you didn't see it already, here is a reminder that the Naming
> Convention Proposals Presentation will start in ~4 hours at 15:00 UTC
> 
> on YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zlBGHHHiY
>
> Something that you may not know, is that the Wikisource Community User
> Group has a voice in this process.
> More exactly here is a copy-paste of a mail I received yesterday from
> Samir Elsharbaty (Community Brand and Marketing coordinator at the
> Wikimedia Foundation):
>
>
>
> *Feedback period: For affiliates and individuals from 16 June to 30 June
> 2020. A collective feedback survey link will be shared with your email
> addresses next week. This survey is a primary way for affiliates to submit
> feedback as a group on the proposals. If you would like to change the email
> address we send the survey to, please let us know. Affiliate Liaisons: The
> most straightforward way for your affiliate to provide feedback during this
> phase and the upcoming ones is by designating an affiliate liaison to be a
> connection point between our team and your affiliate. If you are interested
> in designating a liaison to receive updates and facilitate discussions,
> please reply to this email.*
>
> I proposed my name to be the liaison for the Wikisource Community UG, if
> anyone else is interested, they can join or even replace me.
> And if you have any comments or remarks about the propositions, please
> share them (before end of June) so I can then share them in the survey.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Making of a ScanBox - DIY Scanner

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Shrini,

This is awesome and cost-effective. We will try to build one after the
lockdown ends in West Bengal for our user group. Thanks for building this,
thoroughly documenting and sharing.

Take care,
Bodhisattwa


On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 12:39, subodh kulkarni  wrote:

> Great Innovation!
> Congrats to Shrini and team.
> This can be replicated on large scale using Fablabs like one at Vigyan
> Ashram, Pabal -
> http://vigyanashram.com/InnerPages/TechnologyByCategory.aspx?TCategory=FABLAB
>
> Vigyan Ashram is CIS-A2K's institutional partner involved in many
> Wikimedia activities. Let us explore further collaboration regarding this.
>
> regards,
>
> Subodh Kulkarni
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:30 PM Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
>> Excellent Shrini, thanks for sharing step by step details. Regards.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 11:08 AM Shrinivasan T 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Recently, we have built a custom scan box to scan books.
>>>
>>>
>>> With this box and a smartphone, we can scan books easily.
>>>
>>> Wrote about it here
>>>
>>> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/04/20/making-of-kaniyam-scanbox-diy-scanner/
>>>
>>>
>>> Comment there If you are interested in volunteering for scanning or post
>>> processing using scantailor.
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Om,

Thanks for your concern. Yes, the problem of copyright with different
Indian digital libraries collection is quite well known. The most famous
example is the Digital Library of India, which was closed down due to
copyright infringement.

The difference between NDLI and other Indian digital libraries is that NDLI
primarily acts as a portal and link for different digital libraries.
Sometimes, materials which are not otherwise accessible because of
different restrictions in different digital libraries can be accessed when
we login through NDLI. This is because specific contracts are signed
between NDLI and those digital libraries.

So, unlike other digital libraries, they do not host the copyrighted
material on their website. They just link to other websites, from where you
can get the content.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 06:35 omshivaprak...@gmail.com, <
omshivaprak...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have had great problem with earlier digital library projects which
> government undertook. 36 scan centers/hubs millions of books without
> copyright verification (note: many won’t go through proper copyright
> process in India) and the entire project was shutdown making the works
> inaccessible to public. Virtual library
> http://www.nvli.in/ has been down after burning millions in meetings.
> http://bharatavani.in/ Which was supposed to be the multilingual digital
> library for 100+ Indian language only hosts copyrighted content and
> multilevel locked in process to download and use content - even for
> public/research purposes. It’s very much needed to see if they really mark
> the content under cc-by-sa. Hope they really understand this.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:43 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
>> Yes.  I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement.  PD
>> metadata is not "their content", really.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>
>> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>>
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think there is a problem here.
>>>
>>> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them
>>> is PD (expired copyright).
>>>
>>> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.
>>>
>>> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a
>>> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be
>>> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.
>>>
>>> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish
>>> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download
>>> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The
>>> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to
>>> copyright.
>>>
>>> Ankry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ankry,
>>>>
>>>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
>>>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire
>>> world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is
>>> important NDLI understand this, too.
>>>
>>>A.
>>>
>>> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will
>>>> not be uploaded in any way.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm just looking at them.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
>>>>> ToU.
>>>>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may
>>>>> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
>>>>> Do we care?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ankry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>>>>>
&

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Asaf,

We acknowledge your concern.

When we had meetings with NDLI, we specifically discussed about "their
contents" to be published under CC-BY-SA, if we are going to include them
on Wikimedia Commons and they primarily agreed on that. They have very good
knowledge about different Creative Commons license terms and they are one
of the advocates of RightsStatements license, so it was easier to talk
about these areas with them.

I hope, we can sort this issue out. Let's see.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 02:43 Asaf Bartov,  wrote:

> Yes.  I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement.  PD
> metadata is not "their content", really.
>
>A.
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry  wrote:
>
>> I don't think there is a problem here.
>>
>> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them
>> is PD (expired copyright).
>>
>> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.
>>
>> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a
>> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be
>> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.
>>
>> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish
>> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download
>> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The
>> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to
>> copyright.
>>
>> Ankry
>>
>>
>> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ankry,
>>>
>>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
>>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.
>>>
>>
>> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire
>> world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is
>> important NDLI understand this, too.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not
>>> be uploaded in any way.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm just looking at them.
>>>>
>>>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
>>>> ToU.
>>>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may
>>>> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
>>>> Do we care?
>>>>
>>>> Ankry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
>>>> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
>>>> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
>>>> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>>>>
>>>> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>>
>>>> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
>>>>> that National Digital Library of India
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India>
>>>>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>>>>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>>>>> Ministry
>>>>> of Human Resource Development
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development>
>>>>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institut

Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikimedia-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Ilario,

If you check this link <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/faq>, you can find it
written at the Terms and Conditions section - *The actual contents are
subject to the copyright laws of the respective data providers as the
authors or publishers retain copyright to these works which are used by NDL
India with permission.*

It is the practice for any government agency like NDLI to sign a MoU or
other form of contracts with other organizations, before engaging with them
in any way. Although I can't speak for NDLI, but it is extremely likely
that they have partnered with Worldebooklibrary and others officially.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa



On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 23:38, Ilario valdelli  wrote:

> Thank you for that,
>
> I have checked some languages but it seems that this digital library
> have books of some languages completely taken from Project Gutenberg
> (http://www.gutenberg.org) or from World Ebook Library
> (http://www.worldebooklibrary.org/) and they have their own licenses.
>
> It's not clear what is the library for whom the NDLI owns the copyrights
> and they can donate.
>
> Kind regards
>
> On 14/03/2020 09:38, Bodhisattwa Mandal wrote:
> > Through this understanding, we will work together on:
> >
> > - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
> > <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/>
> > - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
> > metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
> websites.
> > - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
> and
> > Wikisource.
> > - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
> > Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
> >
> --
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> Wikimedia CH
> Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Ankry,

As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. Also, anything not
compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not be uploaded in any
way.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:

> I'm just looking at them.
>
> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their ToU.
> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may be
> against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
> Do we care?
>
> Ankry
>
>
> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>
> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
>> National
>> Digital Library of India
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India>
>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>> Ministry
>> of Human Resource Development
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development>
>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur>
>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
>> literature metadata.
>>
>> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>>
>>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>><https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/>
>>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
>>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>>and Wikisource.
>>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>>
>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
>> finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
>> Digital Library Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an
>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
>> Delhi
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>,
>> where WMF was a technical partner.
>>
>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
>> mailing lists.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Nicolas,

Thanks for your reply and interest in the partnership.

It was discussed during the Delhi meeting that as a first step, NDLI will
come up with a unique authority control for the authors listed in their
website and we will match them with corresponding Wikidata items, thus
starting to link Wikidata content with NDLI website. The process was
expected to initiate from January, but due to some other other commitments
from NDLI as a government agency, it has not been started yet.

As a major part of this partnership will largely depend on the data model
stated in Wikidata WikiProject Books
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Books>, we need works
and their editions on different Wikisource projects properly linked with
Wikidata exactly following the data model. For Indian language Wikisources,
I can say, the linkages are still very low. It would be great, if we can
collaboratively engage as many as Wikisource communities as possible to
start linking their contents on Wikidata. We definitely need suggestions
and all kinds of help there organizing this.

We appreciate if highly experienced community members like you share inputs
and insight w.r.t. this collaboration. Please feel free to do so
pro-actively at any time.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa




On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 15:49 Nicolas VIGNERON, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>
> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
>> National
>> Digital Library of India
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India>
>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>> Ministry
>> of Human Resource Development
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development>
>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur>
>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
>> literature metadata.
>>
>> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>>
>>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>><https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/>
>>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
>>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>>and Wikisource.
>>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>>
>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
>> finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
>> Digital Library Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an
>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
>> Delhi
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>,
>> where WMF was a technical partner.
>>
>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
>> mailing lists.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
>> CIS-A2K
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[Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
that National
Digital Library of India
 (NDLI),
Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have
signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a
2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a Ministry of
Human Resource Development

project, developed at IIT Kharagpur

which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
literature metadata.

Through this understanding, we will work together on:

   - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
   
   - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
   metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
   - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata and
   Wikisource.
   - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
   Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
Digital Library Design 2019,  an international
conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT Delhi
, where
WMF was a technical partner.

Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
mailing lists.

Regards,
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[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic-TechCom Oct-Dec 2019 Report

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

Sorry for cross-posting.

Here are some new tools which might interest Wikisource community at large.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


-- Forwarded message -
From: Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020, 02:12
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic-TechCom Oct-Dec 2019 Report
To: Wikimedia India Community list 
Cc: 


Hello Everyone,

Indic-TechCom's quarterly report has been ready. Details are the following.

== Tools ==
1. *Wikifile-transfer
 (New)*-
This tool helps the users to upload non-free images from one wiki to
another wiki. Work on this started from CIS MediaWiki training 2019.
* **   Releasement of the tool in October 2019 (phab:T225377
)

2. *BookReader
 (New)* -
This tool allows users to PDF/DjVu in book format. It is mainly created for
Wikisource to read the Index pages.

   - Creation of tool (phab:T240178
   )
   - Support for locally uploaded books (phab:T240683
   )
   - Give the option to the input file name instead of file URL (
   phab:T240744 )
   - Allow users to write file name without File Prefix (phab:T241489
   )
   - Autocompletion of File Name (phab:T241491
   )


3*. Indic Wikisource Stats

(Feature
Added)* -

   - Added monthly active users activity regarding Proofreading/Validations
   (phab:T241430 )
   - Added newly created Hindi Wikisource in the tool (phab:T241431
   )


4.* Indic Wikisource Contest

(New)* -
This tool allows the Wikisource community to run the
proofreading/validation contest. This was very hard to implement as it
required most of the technologies like OAuth, MediaWiki API.

   - Creation of tool (phab:T241537
   , 6 Patches)


== UserScripts ==
1.* BookReader Script
* -
This script allows us to embed BookReader within wiki for Index pages.
Currently, it enabled for Punjabi Wikisource. Bangla Wikisource is in
progress of the deployment. If any Wikisource community wants this
UserScript as Gadget. then they can follow these steps
.

   - Creation of UserScript (phab:T241490
   )
   - Incorporate Bookreader tool on Punjabi Wikisource (phab:T240758
   )


== Other ==

   - Scores is not getting Update (phab:T236953
   )
   - Create Portal namespace for sawikisource (phab:T235343
   )
   - Two logo created by User:KCVelaga.


For the update, You can keep eye on
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Indic-TechCom/Report/Oct-Dec_2019.

Thanks to Rammanojpotla, KCVelaga, Bodhisattwa, Wikilover90,  Jayantanth,
and CIS-India to involving with us.

Thanks :) Regard

Jayprakash12345
Developer, Indic-TechCom
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I think, I will also not be able to make it at that time.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 04:11 Ruthven,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>  Unfortunately I'm not available tomorrow at 1pm. Good luck, I'll check on
> the etherpad.
>
> Cheers,
> *Ruthven* on Wikipedia
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 12:06, Mardetanha 
> wrote:
>
>> Good, i will do my best to join you.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:51 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> So according to the framadate (https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP)
>>> we have equality for Saturday and Sunday but Mohsen didn't vote and said he
>>> preferred Saturday (IIRC).
>>> If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00
>>> (1 pm) UTC (time conversion:
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191214T13=195=176=263
>>> ).
>>>
>>> The meeting will be at this URL: https://meet.jit.si/WCUG (just click
>>> the link, no account needed ; you may get a "Browser warning" but most of
>>> the time it's relevant, the Jitsi devs are tweaking things right now
>>> apparently).
>>> We will take notes on this pad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
>>> (I already included the four questions about Movement Strategy, is that
>>> the "essay" you are talking about Jim? ping @Bodhisattwa and @Mohsen as you
>>> two are in Strategy working groups your input would be valuable, feel free
>>> to comment in the pad before the meeting ;) ).
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 20:23, J Hayes  a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Yes, I concur.
>>>> I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp
>>>> strategic plan.
>>>> There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling
>>>> the resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
>>>> others.
>>>> (Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
>>>> also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay
>>>> responses to get invited.
>>>>
>>>> Cdmt, slowking
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nicolas,
>>>>>
>>>>> In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
>>>>> advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does 
>>>>> not
>>>>> get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
>>>>> This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
>>>>> discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
>>>>> Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
>>>>> strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to
>>>>> represent the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very
>>>>> strong support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need
>>>>>> to discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We
>>>>>> need to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
>>>>>> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
>>>>>> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while 
>>>>>> selecting
>>>>>> the people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not
>>>>>> a candidate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Balaji.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>&

[Wikisource-l] A new book reader/viewer is live for us!

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi list,

It was proposed in 2016 Community Wishlist to implement the
open-source Internet
Archive Book Reader  in
Commons and Wikisource (see this phab ticket
).

A couple of days back, User:Jayprakash12345 has created a tool
 based on that request (see this
phab ticket ). To get a glimpse
of what this new reader looks like, check the reader

for this book.


I think, we can now start a discussion whether this reader should be the
default reader for Wikisource or Commons replacing the existing reader
which is suitable for pictures but has limitations for viewing book.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Deployment of the Wikisource extension

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Thanks a lot, Tpt. You are super awesome as always.

Best,
Bodhisattwa

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, 04:37 Ruthven,  wrote:

> Thanks Thomas, a good news and a great job!
> I already started applying it to it.source; e.g.
> https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Orlando_furioso
>
> Cheers!
> *Ruthven* on Wikipedia
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 22:29, Thomas Pellissier Tanon <
> tho...@pellissier-tanon.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The "Wikisource" MediaWiki extension has just been enabled on all
>> Wikisources. For now, this extension contains only the piece of code
>> allowing to fill the "In other projects" navigation section  based on
>> the Wikidata "edition of" (P629) property. In the future this
>> extension aims to store code customizing MediaWiki shared by all
>> Wikisources.
>>
>> This is the first step to solve the "Inter-language link support via
>> Wikidata" wish that arrived 4th in the Community Wishlist survey. [2].
>>
>> A working example is available on the English Wikisource [3]. You
>> could see that on this page there is a "Wikipedia" link in the "In
>> other projects" sidebar. This link does not come from the wikitext
>> code of the page, and not from the Wikidata item connected to the page
>> (Q15854278) either but from the Wikidata item Q936276 that is the
>> "work" entity of "The Wind in the Willows". The property "edition of"
>> (P629) connects the "edition" Wikidata item (connected to the
>> Wikisource page) to the "work" item. It is this property that the
>> Wikisource extension is using to find a link to Wikipedia to display
>> in the "In other projects" sidebar if the Wikidata item connected  to
>> the page (here the "edition" item) does not provide a link to
>> Wikipedia.
>>
>> This, of course, works not only for Wikipedia but for all the sister
>> projects displayed in the sidebar (Commons, Wikiquote...).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180303
>> [2]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2020/Wikisource/Inter-language_link_support_via_Wikidata
>> [3] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Wind_in_the_Willows_(1913)
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Nicolas,

In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.

Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to represent
the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very strong
support.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa






On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
> discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
> to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
> the people.
>
> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
> candidate.
>
> Regards,
> Balaji.
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> According to the reports :
>> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
>> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
>> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
>> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
>> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>>
>> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
>> I started a poll to find the best day:
>> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
>>> will do my best
>>> Mardetanha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
 I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG)
 as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
 and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
 this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
 have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
 in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)

 For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
 most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
 https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Summit report

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Sorry *almost 3 months

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 14:20 Bodhisattwa Mandal, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It has been more than 3 months and there is no report or any update. Shall
> we get any?
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2019, 20:02 Bodhisattwa Mandal, 
> wrote:
>
>> Any update ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bodhisattwa
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 11:41 Nicolas VIGNERON, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, it is already planned (I remind it to him just yesterday), please
>>> wait a little bit ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le mer. 3 avr. 2019 à 22:11, Mardetanha  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Agreed
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:57 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> As the Wikimedia Summit 2019 ended recently, it would be great if the
>>>>> representative from Wikisource User Group can share his experience and
>>>>> submit a report.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Summit report

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Hi,

It has been more than 3 months and there is no report or any update. Shall
we get any?

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Wed, 8 May 2019, 20:02 Bodhisattwa Mandal, 
wrote:

> Any update ?
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 11:41 Nicolas VIGNERON, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, it is already planned (I remind it to him just yesterday), please
>> wait a little bit ;)
>>
>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>
>> Le mer. 3 avr. 2019 à 22:11, Mardetanha  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Agreed
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:57 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As the Wikimedia Summit 2019 ended recently, it would be great if the
>>>> representative from Wikisource User Group can share his experience and
>>>> submit a report.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Summit report

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Any update ?

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 11:41 Nicolas VIGNERON, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, it is already planned (I remind it to him just yesterday), please
> wait a little bit ;)
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le mer. 3 avr. 2019 à 22:11, Mardetanha  a
> écrit :
>
>> Agreed
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:57 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As the Wikimedia Summit 2019 ended recently, it would be great if the
>>> representative from Wikisource User Group can share his experience and
>>> submit a report.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
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[Wikisource-l] Community conversation with Roles and Responsibilities working group

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Hi all,

As you all know that, the Wikimedia movement strategy working groups

have started working on the final stage of the process i.e. building
recommendations, which are supposed to be delivered by November this year.
The only step that will be remaining after that will be implementing the
recommendations by WMF next year. These recommendations will significantly
change the movement in the future, even the least radical ones might have
impact on the movement which will affect us all in many ways. As a
volunteer serving on one of the working groups, I would like to encourage
you all to take part in the process, so that your dreams and ideas for a
better tomorrow get reflected in the recommendations; your experience,
insight and voices are very much important to shape the future of the
movement.

I am in the Roles and Responsibilities working group
,
which is focusing on the governance and organizational movement structures.
For last few months, we have tried to identify objectively about what are
going well and what are not in the current existing structure, where are
the pain points and where are the happy ones; and we tried to map them as
best as we could. The goal is to identify a future structure for the
Wikimedia Movement that will create less friction and more synergies. To
understand that in a better way, we framed few scoping questions for
community conversation (see here
).


The questions are:

   1. What structures, processes, and behaviors will enable us to include
   all voices (including e.g. current contributors and emerging audiences)
   in our decision-making?
   2. Which responsibilities are better placed at a global or local level?
   3. To ensure equity, how should conflict management and resolution
be structured
   across the movement?

You can give your valuable feedback regarding these questions in this
thread or in the village pumps of your wiki projects or in meta

or in a google doc or mail us or in any other way possible. Just let us
know or share with us the links where you are giving feedback or discussing
about these things. If you want to do video chat and document your
feedback, please let us know, we will try our best to fulfill that. If you
do not want to reveal your identity or user name in the public forum, but
still want to document your feedback, please let us know and we will ensure
that. If you need any clarification about these questions or any doubts
about the whole process, you can mail us. Our mailing address is at
wg2030-rolesandresponsibilit...@wikimedia.org . Apart from these questions,
you can share your thoughts about anything with us which you think might
benefit the strategy process or outcome.

Please note, that community conversation is a continuous process and we
will document and work on your valuable feedback whenever you share them
with us till September this year.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
On behalf of Roles and Responsibilities Working Group
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[Wikisource-l] Branding

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I am interested to learn about the thoughts of the Wikisource community at
large and the Wikisource user group about the new branding proposal? Will
the user group provide any feedback in this proposal?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/project_summary

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[Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Summit report

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

As the Wikimedia Summit 2019 ended recently, it would be great if the
representative from Wikisource User Group can share his experience and
submit a report.

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[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] New data type: musical notation with Lilypond format

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Forwarding to this mailing list for anyone working on musical notation
while proofreading in Wikisource.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Shani Evenstein 
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019, 01:48
Subject: Re: [Wikidata] New data type: musical notation with Lilypond format
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project 


Wooh! Great news!

Sh.

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On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:05 PM Léa Lacroix 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following a request from community members, we just deployed a new data
> type called “Musical Notation” in order to store musical notation in
> Wikidata. Property creators can now find this new data type in the list and
> create new properties with it.
>
> A property with musical notation data type will display the notation in
> Lilypond  format, using the score
> extension .
>
> For example, if you enter this code as a value: \relative c' { c d e f |
> g2 g | a4 a a a | g1 |}, it will be displayed as a score:
>
> [image: Screenshot musical notation Wikidata 1.png]
> 
>
> The score also appears on the diff pages.
>
> [image: Screenshot musical notation Wikidata 2.png]
> 
>
> The existing property LilyPond notation (P5482)
>  is used on around 300 items
> .
> If you need any help from the developers to change the datatype of the the
> property or to migrate the content, please let me know.
>
> One bug is already known and we’re working on fixing it: if the score is
> long, it gets out of the statement box and overlaps with the edit button.
>
> If you encounter any issue, feel free to create a subtask of this ticket
> .
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Everything will be Wikipedia

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Sam,

Coincidentally, there is a discussion going on in Wikipedia Weekly facebook
group and my exact concern has been proposed there.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/2016791771701977/

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, 10:25 Sam Wilson  It'd be worth making a note about your concerns at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review
>
> As far as I can see, there's no plan to change Wikisource's name. It's
> more about making 'Wikipedia' more prominent than 'Wikimedia' (which it
> already is in most people's eyes). 'Wikisource' doesn't come into it.
>
> (I'm saying this as myself, not as WMF staff.)
>
> It's encouraging that Wikisource has relatively high awareness (p.38 of
> the report
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Global_Wikipedia_and_Wikimedia_Brand_Research_Report.pdf
> ), ahead of Wikidata and Commons. They do note that the high awareness
> of Wikinews and Wikibooks is likely to be because they sound like
> generic names of things.
>
> —Sam.
>
> On 2/8/19 11:19 AM, Bodhisattwa Mandal wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have heard from a trusted source few months back that there are talks
> > in WMF to rebrand all sister projects under the name Wikipedia. If that
> > happens some day, Wikisource will be no more as it is and it will be
> > called something like Wikipedia-source etc. The logic for this kind of
> > step is that people doesn't know or understand Wikimedia, but everyone
> > knows only about Wikipedia.
> >
> > I think, the recent blog in the Foundation site is the first step to do
> > such things.
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/02/07/how-does-the-world-see-wikimedia-brands/
> >
> > IMHO, very few people know about sister projects, because they didn't
> > get the love they needed from WMF or other affiliates. Everything is so
> > Wikipedia centric. But that can't be the fault of the sister projects.
> >
> > I hope this rebranding doesnt become true someday.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bodhisattwa
> >
> >
> >
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[Wikisource-l] Everything will be Wikipedia

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I have heard from a trusted source few months back that there are talks in
WMF to rebrand all sister projects under the name Wikipedia. If that
happens some day, Wikisource will be no more as it is and it will be called
something like Wikipedia-source etc. The logic for this kind of step is
that people doesn't know or understand Wikimedia, but everyone knows only
about Wikipedia.

I think, the recent blog in the Foundation site is the first step to do
such things.
https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/02/07/how-does-the-world-see-wikimedia-brands/

IMHO, very few people know about sister projects, because they didn't get
the love they needed from WMF or other affiliates. Everything is so
Wikipedia centric. But that can't be the fault of the sister projects.

I hope this rebranding doesnt become true someday.

Regards,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Selection of the representative to the Wikimedia Summit

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Nicolas,

Thanks for bringing this up.

I have proposed the name of Bengali Wikisourcer Jayanta Nath from India. He
is one of the most experienced Wikimedia volunteer from India and a
dedicated Wikisourcer, who is helping grow Indic Wikisource projects in the
spirit of language equity. My proposal is here -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/Wikimedia_Summit_2019#Candidate_1

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 17:52, balaji  wrote:

> Hi Nicolas Vigneron
> Thanks for the wonderful initiative.
>
> This will be a very open process.
>
> Regards
> J.Balaji.
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 5:10 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The deadline is short and to avoid the confusing vote by email of last
>> year, we created a page on meta to decide who will be the representative of
>> the user group to the Wikimedia Summit:
>> *https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/Wikimedia_Summit_2019
>> *
>>
>> The vote will be in two parts:
>> - starting tomorrow and for a week, people can add their name and a short
>> explanation on who they are and why they want to go to the summit
>> - next week, the community vote to designate the representative
>>
>> For the context, Wikimedia Summit will be in Berlin, 29 March - 2 April
>> 2019 (last year, it was called "Wikimedia Conference" and "Chapters
>> Meeting" the previous years).
>> Here is a short report on what happened last year:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Wikisource_Community_User_Group
>> .
>> This year, fewer people are invited (one instead of two for us) and the
>> summit will focus on strategy and governance.
>> As usual, feel free to ask more and any question.
>>
>> *Disclaimer: I probably won't candidate myself, except if there is 2 or
>> less candidates.*
>>
>> Cheers,
>> For the Wikisource Community User Group,
>> Nicolas Vigneron
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[Wikisource-l] A new button for OCR

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

Jayprakash from IndicTechCom has developed a tool to OCR by using Google
Drive API -  https://tools.wmflabs.org/indic-ocr/

The tool can be accessed in Wikisources by loading this js -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Indic-TechCom/Script/IndicOCR.js

The tool was developed as Google OCR by Cloud Vision API was not supporting
Malayalam, Telugu, Oriya, Gujarati and Kannada. So, the OCR button created
by Community tech was not working for this language Wikisources. The new
button will support these languages as well all other languages supported
by Google Drive API

Also, by introduction of this tool, we now have 4 options to OCR in
Wikisource. :-)

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[Wikisource-l] Katherine says support will be provided to Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

At GLAMWikiConference, 2018, Katherine Maher said yesterday during her
speech, that support will be provided to Wikisource by WMF. Check the link
of Youtube video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWsuDU1CMU

(from 1:15:24 )

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Re: [Wikisource-l] (no subject)

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Sure, they are being shared from Bengali Wikisource twitter account and
OpenGLAM is retweeting them with comments. :-)



On 1 Oct 2018 9:13 pm, "scann"  wrote:

share the videos in the openglam account if you haven't yet :)

congrats!

El lun., 1 oct. 2018 11:40, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
escribió:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Glad you liked the initiative.
>
> Sure, we will gather the data and submit in the grant report on 30
> October, 2018.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, 20:57 Alex Stinson,  wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Bodhi! This its awesome to have such great materials
>> coming out of the Bengali community! Please let us know how the circulation
>> of the video effects the viewership/participation in WikiSource.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:17 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry,
>>>
>>> The links of the youtube videos were not correctly shared by me
>>> previously. I am sharing them again.
>>>
>>> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
>>> happened)
>>> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD2xOml8MQ> (Watchful
>>> eyes)
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebC4-bxhp8> (World at your doorstep)
>>>
>>> Thanks Abhinav for pointing that out.
>>>
>>> Many apologies,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 08:59, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness
>>>> Campaign videos have been released in Youtube channel
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West
>>>> Bengal Wikimedians user Group
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This
>>>> campaign was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.
>>>>
>>>> The project was first placed in IdeaLab
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
>>>> as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation 
>>>> rapid
>>>> grant
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
>>>> The details can be found here
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
>>>> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
>>>> happened)
>>>> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful
>>>> eyes)
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)
>>>>
>>>> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
>>>> * লে হালুয়া
>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
>>>> (What just happened)
>>>> * মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
>>>> (Watchful eyes)
>>>> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
>>>> (World at your doorstep)
>>>>
>>>> The video production could have not been possible without -
>>>> * Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
>>>> Kolkata)
>>>> * Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
>>>> * Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
>>>> * Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
>>>> * Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
>>>> * Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
>>>> * Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
>>>> * Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
>>>> * Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
>>>> * Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
>>>> Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
>>>>
>>>>- * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen,
>>>>Mahir Mo

Re: [Wikisource-l] Bengali Wikisource awareness campaign videos

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Good point, but, I guess, books have the great power to forget the external
world and make people dive into the pages within a short period of time.
Sutanu can't resist it either. :-)



On 1 Oct 2018 11:42 am, "Federico Leva (Nemo)"  wrote:

Bodhisattwa Mandal, 01/10/2018 06:37:

> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
> * লে হালুয়া
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%87_%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE_%28%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%A8_%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%9A%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE_%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%93%29.webm>

> (What just happened)
> * মায়ের নজর
> <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0_%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%B0.webm>

> (Watchful eyes)

Very funny! Although I wonder if Sutanu was really happy. :-)


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Re: [Wikisource-l] (no subject)

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Sorry,

The links of the youtube videos were not correctly shared by me previously.
I am sharing them again.

* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD2xOml8MQ> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebC4-bxhp8> (World at your doorstep)

Thanks Abhinav for pointing that out.

Many apologies,
Bodhisattwa


On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 08:59, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
> videos have been released in Youtube channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
> Wikimedians user Group
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
> was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.
>
> The project was first placed in IdeaLab
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
> as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
> grant
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
> The details can be found here
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.
>
> The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
> happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
> * লে হালুয়া
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
> (What just happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
> (Watchful eyes)
> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The video production could have not been possible without -
> * Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
> Kolkata)
> * Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
> * Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
> * Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
> * Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
> * Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
> * Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
> * Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
> * Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
> * Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
> Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
>
>- * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
>Morshed, Jayanta Nath
>- * WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)
>
>
> It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
> the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
> submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.
>
> Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
> languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
> and Commons.
>
> Enjoy!!
>
> Thanks,
> Bodhisattwa
> Bengali Wikisource community
> West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Bengali Wikisource awareness campaign videos

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Sorry,

The links of the youtube videos were not correctly shared by me previously.
I am sharing them again.

* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD2xOml8MQ> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebC4-bxhp8> (World at your doorstep)

Thanks Abhinav for pointing that out.

Many apologies,
Bodhisattwa

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 09:07, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> [Sorry for not adding the subject in the previous mail, many apologies]
>
> We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
> videos have been released in Youtube channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
> Wikimedians user Group
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
> was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.
>
> The project was first placed in IdeaLab
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
> as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
> grant
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
> The details can be found here
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.
>
> The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
> happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
> * লে হালুয়া
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
> (What just happened)
> * মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
> (Watchful eyes)
> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
> (World at your doorstep)
>
> The video production could have not been possible without -
> * Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
> Kolkata)
> * Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
> * Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
> * Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
> * Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
> * Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
> * Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
> * Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
> * Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
> * Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
> Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
> * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
> Morshed, Jayanta Nath
> * WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)
>
> It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
> the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
> submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.
>
> Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
> languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
> and Commons.
>
> Enjoy!!
>
> Thanks,
> Bodhisattwa
> Bengali Wikisource community
> West Bengal Wikimedians User Group
>


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Re: [Wikisource-l] (no subject)

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Sorry,

The links of the youtube videos were not correctly shared by me previously.
I am sharing them again.

* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffD2xOml8MQ> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebC4-bxhp8> (World at your doorstep)

Thanks Abhinav for pointing that out.

Many apologies,
Bodhisattwa



On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 09:29, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

> Abhinav,
>
> Thanks  for the comment. Your concern is duly noted, but as the video
> editing has already been done by the production team, we cannot do any
> changes now, even if we like to.
>
> Whatsapp fake news is a real thing, and this video is not the first time,
> where it has been mentioned. It has been featured in many news channels and
> print media. Few examples are -
> *
> https://indianexpress.com/article/business/a-whatsapp-message-destroyed-firm-value-5378286/
> from Indian Express
> * https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-45140158 from BBC
> * http://time.com/5352516/india-whatsapp-fake-news/ from TIME
>
> Even Whatsapp also admits that this is a problem and they have tried to
> counter it in different ways. For eg. -
> *
> https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/whatsapp-kicks-off-radio-campaigns-in-india-to-tackle-fake-news/article24811417.ece
> from The HIndu
> *
> https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/whatsapp-says-working-with-reliance-jio-to-curb-fake-news-menace-191
> from NDTV
> *
> https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/software/whatsapp-to-train-users-on-dangers-of-fake-news/articleshow/65594316.cms
> From India Times
>
> Thanks,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 09:08, Abhinav srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bodhisattwa,
>>
>> I saw these videos last evening, they are actually very nicely done.
>>
>> I have a very minor concern which I have also posted under the comments
>> section and reached out to you last evening.
>>
>> In ‘What just happened’ video, can we drop ’whatsapp’ placed just ahead
>> of fake news. If possible dubb it to online fake news or simply mute it.
>>
>> I am not a lawyer and not sure on legal issues. Someone can better
>> reflect on the matter of taking names of Internet organisation outside our
>> movement.
>>
>> When Hindi promotional video was made by WMF, The Hindi community members
>> on the table  made a common consensus on not taking names.
>>
>> Again, it could be a very minor issue and may not hold much relevance.
>>
>> Abhinav
>> On Monday, October 1, 2018, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness
>>> Campaign videos have been released in Youtube channel
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West
>>> Bengal Wikimedians user Group
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This
>>> campaign was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.
>>>
>>> The project was first placed in IdeaLab
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
>>> as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation 
>>> rapid
>>> grant
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
>>> The details can be found here
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.
>>>
>>> The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
>>> * লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
>>> happened)
>>> * মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful
>>> eyes)
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)
>>>
>>> The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
>>> * লে হালুয়া
>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
>>> (What just happened)
>>> * মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
>>> (Watchful eyes)
>>> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
>>> (World at your doorstep

[Wikisource-l] Bengali Wikisource awareness campaign videos

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

[Sorry for not adding the subject in the previous mail, many apologies]

We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
videos have been released in Youtube channel
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
Wikimedians user Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.

The project was first placed in IdeaLab
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
grant
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
The details can be found here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.

The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)

The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
* লে হালুয়া
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
(What just happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
(Watchful eyes)
* দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
(World at your doorstep)

The video production could have not been possible without -
* Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
Kolkata)
* Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
* Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
* Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
* Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
* Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
* Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
* Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
* Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
* Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
* Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
Morshed, Jayanta Nath
* WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)

It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.

Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
and Commons.

Enjoy!!

Thanks,
Bodhisattwa
Bengali Wikisource community
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[Wikisource-l] (no subject)

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

We are happy to announce that, three Bengali Wikisource Awareness Campaign
videos have been released in Youtube channel
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK_fhMDPgSjGGaGGvY4A38Q> of West Bengal
Wikimedians user Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal_Wikimedians>. This campaign
was first such initiative to promote Wikisource among new readers.

The project was first placed in IdeaLab
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>
as part of Inspire Campaign and was later funded by Wikimedia Foundation rapid
grant
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WBG/Awareness_video_for_Bengali_Wikisource>.
The details can be found here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Wikisource_Awareness_Campaign>.

The youtube links of the short videos can be found here -
* লে হালুয়া <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (What just
happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (Watchful eyes)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> * দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3O9AC5Z3g> (World at your doorstep)

The videos were also uploaded to Commons. The links are as follows-
* লে হালুয়া
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:লে_হালুয়া_(উইকিসংকলন_সচেতনতা_ভিডিও).webm>
(What just happened)
* মায়ের নজর <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:মায়ের_নজর.webm>
(Watchful eyes)
* দুনিয়া যখন দোরগোড়ায়
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:দুনিয়া_যখন_দোরগোড়ায়.webm>
(World at your doorstep)

The video production could have not been possible without -
* Director - Ishan Sharma (Satyajit Ray Film and Television Institute,
Kolkata)
* Cinematographer - Sukhansaar Singh (do)
* Executive Producer - Aryaman Nath (do)
* Sound Director - Sukrit Sen (do)
* Focus Puller - Theodros Tadesse (Ethiopia)
* Assistant Director - Sneha Das (do)
* Editor - Himangshu Kamble (Mumbai)
* Colorist - Pankaj Nelson (Mumbai)
* Plot proposer - Deepanjan Ghosh (Radio Mirchi Kolkata)
* Cast - Sujan Ghosh, Suavo Mukherjee, Ritam Sarkar, Raja Chakravorty,
Shrabanti Bhattacharya and Avinash
- * Bengali Wikisource team - Bodhisattwa Mandal, Hrishikes Sen, Mahir
Morshed, Jayanta Nath
- * WMF liaison - Satdeep Gill (Thanks a lot, buddy!)

It was a completely new experience for us, and we have learnt a lot from
the entire project. We will try to promote the videos for next 1 month and
submit our grant report within the deadline of 30 October, 2018.

Please do watch the videos and feel free to create subtitles in your
languages. The English and Bengali subtitles are already there in Youtube
and Commons.

Enjoy!!

Thanks,
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Bengali Wikisource community
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Carl Malamud is doing India

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Where does he host the scanned documents?

On 28 April 2018 at 22:35, Federico Leva (Nemo)  wrote:

> Nicolas VIGNERON, 28/04/2018 18:19:
>
>> Can we have the context here? I'm not sure to understand what this is
>> about...
>>
>
> Sorry, I thought you'd know him:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Malamud
>
> Many of us know him for his work around PACER. Looks like his archival
> projects are expanding to India. He seemingly gets Indian documents and
> then gets them scanned, some from the Internet Archive I think.
>
>
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[Wikisource-l] উইকিসংকলন কর্মশালা, শিলচর

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

সুধী,

আগামী ১৮ই মে শিলচরের অসম বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের বাংলা বিভাগের সহায়টায় উইকিসংকলনের
একটি কর্মশালা অনুষ্ঠিত হবে।

বিস্তারিত এখানে -  https://bn.wikisource.org/s/fw5o

পশ্চিমবঙ্গ ইউজার গ্রুপ এই কর্মশালার জন্য প্রয়োজনীয় খরচ বহন করছে।

ধন্যবাদান্তে,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Translation namespaces

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

For example, this translation namespace page
<https://bn.wikisource.org/s/crl> is transcluded from this page
<https://bn.wikisource.org/s/crj> of this index
<https://bn.wikisource.org/s/cr7>. But unlike NS0 pages, the translation
namespace has no link to the NS:page at the side and NS:index at the top.

On 25 April 2018 at 12:27, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
wrote:

> Can you please give an example?
>
> בתאריך יום ד׳, 25 באפר׳ 2018, 08:39, מאת Bodhisattwa Mandal ‏<
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The translation namespace pages needs to be linked with page numbers and
>> source index files. Any idea how to do so?
>>
>> Regards,
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[Wikisource-l] Translation namespaces

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Hi,

The translation namespace pages needs to be linked with page numbers and
source index files. Any idea how to do so?

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[Wikisource-l] Wikisource meetup at WMCon

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I hope there will be a Wikisource meetup at Wikimedia Conference 2018.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Thematic,_regional,_language-specific_meetups

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Do we have tools for offline collaboration?

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On 13 April 2018 at 15:03, Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:


> There is BUB https://tools.wmflabs.org/bub/ but only for certains
> websites.
>

BUB is not working for more than a year.


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

In this item <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12308313> the property Characters
(P674) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P674> has been used for a
non-fiction literary work, whereas the property is said to be related to
works of fiction. Now, I am confused, if  P674 is allowed for non-fiction
or not?

I am also finding difficulty to propose a name for the new property for
non-fiction characters, shall it be ''Characters in non-fictions'' or is
there any specific term for it?

Help needed.

On 6 April 2018 at 21:38, Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. 
>
> On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nico...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674
>> but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction).
>> AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ).
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
>> 2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst <billinghurstw...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve?
>>>
>>>- depicts (P180) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180>
>>>- statement is subject of (P805)
>>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805>
>>>- subject has role (P2868)
>>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868>
>>>- owner of (P1830) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830>
>>>- dedicated to (P825) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825>
>>>- identity of subject in context (P4649)
>>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649>
>>>- patron (P1962) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962>
>>>
>>> I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry
>>> about a person, so if you can give more context
>>>
>>> -- Billinghurst
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <
>>> wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM
>>> Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction
>>> literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions,
>>> depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary
>>> topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing
>>> something?
>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

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Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. 

On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nico...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674
> but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction).
> AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ).
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
> 2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst <billinghurstw...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve?
>>
>>- depicts (P180) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180>
>>- statement is subject of (P805)
>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805>
>>- subject has role (P2868)
>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868>
>>- owner of (P1830) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830>
>>- dedicated to (P825) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825>
>>- identity of subject in context (P4649)
>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649>
>>- patron (P1962) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962>
>>
>> I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry
>> about a person, so if you can give more context
>>
>> -- Billinghurst
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>
>> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <
>> wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM
>> Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction
>> literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions,
>> depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary
>> topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing
>> something?
>>
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[Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters

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Hi,

is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction
literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions,
depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary
topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Content donation

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Hi,

Here is the link -

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Content_donations_supported_by_West_Bengal_Wikimedians_in_2018

Thanks,


On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, 20:09 mathieu stumpf guntz, <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Thank you Bodhisattwa. Could you provide links to the relatated works?
>
> Cheers
>
> Le 20/03/2018 à 19:23, Bodhisattwa Mandal a écrit :
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group, I am happy to announce
> that Dr. Tapodhir Bhattacharjee, Ex-Vice chancellor of Assam University,
> has kindly released copyright of 5 of his books under CC-BY-SA 4.0 license.
> The books are uploaded to Commons and are now in the hands of Bengali and
> English Wikisourcers for further work. Kudos to Dr. Tanmay Bir and Jayanta
> Nath for their effort to release, scan and upload the content.
>
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[Wikisource-l] 500 Internal Server Error for Google OCR button

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Hi Sam,

The Google OCR button and the tool
 is giving 500 internal server
error output from today, although the Cloud Vision API is working fine
.

We have reported in phabricator here
. It would be great for us if
you please look into this matter urgently as all our options are suddenly
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[Wikisource-l] Content donation

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Hi all,

On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group, I am happy to announce
that Dr. Tapodhir Bhattacharjee, Ex-Vice chancellor of Assam University,
has kindly released copyright of 5 of his books under CC-BY-SA 4.0 license.
The books are uploaded to Commons and are now in the hands of Bengali and
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Zero output for OCR using Google Drive API

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Update:

The OCR for Bengali using Google Drive API has stopped for pdf and djvu
files, but for jpg it is ok till now.

Shrini and Jayanta is rewriting and testing the OCR4Wikisource script to
convert the files into jpg files.

Looking forward,
Bodhisattwa

On 16 Mar 2018 10:16 am, "Jayanta Nath"  wrote:

Sam, the OCR works fine in Vision API in Bengali and other Wikisource ,
what you developed. Nothing worried. We will rewrite our python script for
running a Bot.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:16 AM, Sam Wilson  wrote:

> Sorry, I just realised you were all talking about the *Drive* API, not the
> *Vision* Api! :-) I dunno anything about that.
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sam Wilson wrote:
> > They do all use the same API key, yes.
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be anything obvious on the API end. Request
> > numbers are pretty low under 1 request/minute and our quota is 600 r/m.
> >
> > The tool seems to be working:
> >
> >
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-google-ocr/index.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fbf%2FNandeesha_a.jpg%2F425px-Nandeesha_a.jpg=bn
> >
> >
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-google-ocr/index.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fa%2Fa2%2F07174-Mei%25C3%259Fen-1906-Baarmanns_Bierk%25C3%25BChler-Br%25C3%25BCck_%2526_Sohn_Kunstverlag.jpg%2F394px-07174-Mei%25C3%259Fen-1906-Baarmanns_Bierk%25C3%25BChler-Br%25C3%25BCck_%2526_Sohn_Kunstverlag.jpg=
> >
> > Maybe it's a problem with the gadget?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, at 4:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> > > Just to eliminate a potential silly cause: do all those languages use
> > > the same API key, and are you able to verify what's the quota usage?
> > >
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[Wikisource-l] Wikisource events calender

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Hi,

We can now know about all current Wikisource events in a calendar
format[1], thanks to the module developed by User:0x010C.[2]

To add new events in the calender, please add these two lines to your
common.js in meta.

importScript( 'User:0x010C/Events-calendar-editor.js' );
importScript( 'User:0x010C/Events-calendar-navigation.js' );


[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/Events
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Module:Events_calendar

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Re: [Wikisource-l] wavy line

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For custom rule, you can use as many w|40 parameter as you like to get full
length wave.

Best,

On 5 Jan 2018 10:30 pm, "balaji"  wrote:

Hi Alex,

Thanks for the help.

Cheers

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Alex Brollo  wrote:

> Let's try too with backgrounds, I'll test using my tamil wikisource
> user.common.css, then you will export into MediaWiki:Common.css if I'll get
> a decent result.
>
> Alex
>
> 2018-01-05 17:42 GMT+01:00 balaji :
>
>> Hello every one,
>>Thanks for everyone taking effort to reply. I
>> tried various solutions.
>>
>> Repeating a single character wouldnt be desirable. Because the effect
>> wouldnt be same for different screen sizes.
>>
>> I tried the custom rule template. But with the parameters i could do, I
>> could only produce a wavy line of short length. Is there a way to create
>> the wave effect for full length like a line?
>>
>> I tried a solution by Alex. It seems to work okay in firefox. But doesnt
>> look good in chrome.
>>
>> As people pointed out, the shape of the line doesnt convey any meaning.
>> Its true. Just wanted to try if there is any easy way to format to look as
>> its original. If not possible going to use a simple straight line.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> J. Balaji
>>
>> (User:Balajijagadesh
>> )
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Andy Mabbett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo  wrote:
>>> > 2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett :
>>>
>>> >> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content,
>>> >> and conveys no significant meaning.
>>>
>>> > I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus
>>> > styling IMHO.
>>>
>>> In that case, what does the wavy line /mean/? How would you convey
>>> that meaning to a non-visual user?
>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2018 - Registration closes in one month!

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Hi,

Thank you for considering me, but I won't be able to attend the conference
this year. Also, I think that I am not at all the suitable person to
represent the Wikisource User Group. The best Wikisourcers are there
leading the Wikisource community globally and fighting for language equity
and I have huge respect to all of them. IMO, it would be best for the
project if these awesome Wikimedians represent the UG in the conference.

Jayanta Nath will be representing West Bengal Wikimedians User Group in the
conference officially and he will be there unofficially for Bengali and
other Indic Wikisource projects too. So, as far as non-Western Wikisource
is concerned, there will be at least one representative, for sure. \o/

Regards,

Bodhisattwa

On 17 December 2017 at 03:06, Jayanta Nath <jayanta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If Bodhi will come, that will be pleasure for me. I am coming. I am
> representing on behalf of WBG , Wikisource, Bengali Wikisource, Indic
> Wikisoure.
>
> Jayanta
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Thomas Pellissier Tanon <
> tho...@pellissier-tanon.fr> wrote:
>
>> > Me and Tpt were there last year.
>>
>> The two representatives of the user group last year where Ernest
>> fr.wikisource for the partnership track and Andrea for the strategy track.
>> I was part of the "Invitees for the Movement Strategy Track", mostly
>> talking/thinking about Wikisource during the strategy sessions but not a
>> formal representative of the UG.
>>
>> > If you can both go again that would be great.
>>
>> I am probably not the best person to talk with people so I believe it
>> would be much better fo the user group to send someone else that would
>> represent the group better. More it would be nice to get new Wikisource
>> people, to attend global events (I already have plenty of occasions to
>> attend such events with my technical hat).
>> So, I would be in favour to have one person used to such events (like
>> Nicolas, Andrea or Bodhisattwa) and one new person who may be interested by
>> the learning or partnership tracks.
>>
>> > In any case I would think interesting to have Bodhisattwa Mandal
>> joining the party: that would allow to also give more voice to non-western
>> communities.
>>
>> Big +1 from a person outside of the en, fr, de, it communities.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> > Le 16 déc. 2017 à 12:00, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>> >
>> > mathieu stumpf guntz, 15/12/2017 22:33:
>> >> I just wanted to make sure there will be some wikisourcerers at this
>> event. Is that so?
>> >
>> > If one of the two designated WMIT board members falls sick I might have
>> to go, otherwise I won't.
>> >
>> > The conference is very plethoric nowadays, so I see that 2 persons can
>> be sent by multiple other user groups having some overlap with
>> Wikisorcerers:
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Digitization_User_Group
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary/Tremendous_Wiktio
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>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Florida_Librarians_of_Wikipedia
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[Wikisource-l] Bengali Wikisource 10th Anniversary Celebration

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Hi,

Bengali Wikisource community is celebrating its 10th Anniversary in
Kolkata, India today. The event page can be found here -
https://bn.wikisource.org/s/fb0f

The etherpad link is here - https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/bnws10

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[Wikisource-l] Proofread status colour buttons

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Hi,

The proofread status colour buttons in normal edit mode are not appearing
in Wikisource projects for last few hours.

Any idea, what's happening?
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[Wikisource-l] Endangered Archives Program of British Library

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Hi,

There is a huge collection of rare books in different languages at the
Endangered Archives Program website of British Library. (http://eap.bl.uk/)

1. The books are split into pages
2. Almost every pages have a scale/ruler beside the scanned page, so we
need to crop each and every page. (attached)

Can anyone please develop a tool (enhanced version of BUB) to process the
books and transfer them to Commons?
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource hackathon and meetup in Wikimania

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Hi,

Any update about the meetup?

On 5 August 2017 at 23:40, Jayanta Nath  wrote:

> See you all at Wikisource meetup/Sourcethon
>
>
> Jayanta Nath
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[Wikisource-l] Stats

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Just stumbled upon this link showing stats of different Wikisource projects.
http://wikiscan.org/?menu=allsites=wikisource

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource hackathon and meetup in Wikimania

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Hi Tpt,

That's great! Unfortunately I will not be able to attend Wikimania this
year as my visa was rejected :-( I will try to keep track online via
etherpad, livestream etc. Jayanta Nath from our Bengali community will be
there at the hackathon and meetup.

Best wishes,
On Jul 28, 2017 11:47 AM, "Thomas Pellissier Tanon" <
tho...@pellissier-tanon.fr> wrote:

> Hello Bodhisattwa,
>
> It seems there is going to be a "Sourcethon" during the hackathon with the
> local Wikisource community (page in French [1]). I am going to be available
> during the hackathon/sourcethon so you are welcome to join me :-).
>
> We should also definitely plan a meetup during Wikimania.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
> [1] https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sourcethon
>
>
> > Le 27 juil. 2017 à 21:22, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Will there be any Wikisource hackathon and meet-up during Wikimania 2017?
> >
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[Wikisource-l] Wikisource hackathon and meetup in Wikimania

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Hi,

Will there be any Wikisource hackathon and meet-up during Wikimania 2017?

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Re: [Wikisource-l] QR Codes for Wikisource texts

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Italian Wikisource community had a discussion
<https://it.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Bar=1590896#QR-code_per_le_opere_di_Wikisource>
to deploy Extension:QrCode <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QrCode>
in 2015, but as it was unmaintained, the task
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106792> got stalled.

After some digging, I got two more QRCode extensions.
* QRLite <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QRLite>
* Quick Response <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50329>

Can anyone suggest if one of these can be deployed?



On 7 July 2017 at 11:32, Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ilario,
>
> It's related to digital literacy. Not everyone knows about the process of
> online search of books or how to find QR codes.
>
> When readers check small libraries for those books, which the libraries
> don't have, they return empty handed. Instead, if we provide the libraries
> with QR codes, the readers will be satisfied and libraries can retain their
> readers.
>
> Regards,
> On Jul 7, 2017 11:08 AM, "Ilario Valdelli" <valde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In all of your discussion I have not undertood why someone should go to
>> the library to have a qrcode while it is available online.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> On 7 Jul 2017 07:22, "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There has been significant decline in library readerships in India.
>>> Libraries are remaining almost empty throughout the day. I believe, that is
>>> because, with the increasing usage of internet, there has been a change in
>>> behaviour about reading physical books. People are preferring to remain
>>> online and get information from the internet, rather than to stay in a
>>> library and study there. The libraries are not also coping with this
>>> scenario and not upgrading themselves, and losing readers.
>>>
>>> Also, the smart phone penetration in India is also increasing. It has
>>> been estimated almost one third of Indian citizens will use smart phone by
>>> 2019 and that's a huge number. Nowadays, many people who do not have
>>> computers, have smartphones with cheaper internet than before. But many of
>>> them doesn't know how to search a book in internet, even if does find some
>>> book, tends to forget the urls, and unfortunately almost nobody knows
>>> anything about Wikisource, even from the academy.
>>>
>>> Now, if we have a QR code generation system for Wikisource, we can
>>> collaborate with the town libraries or college libraries, send them the
>>> codes and help them build a QR code library of books. They can give the
>>> codes to readers according to their demands, which will redirect them to
>>> Wikisource. We can also generate QR codes for every book we work on and
>>> upload them to Commons with a suitable title, creating a QR code library
>>> ourselves, thus making the codes google searchable and accessible to the
>>> readers. In every case, the viewership of the site will increase.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017 7:52 AM, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Certainly, this can be done.
>>>>
>>>> Could you elaborate a little more about the use scenarios you are
>>>> imagining?
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:32 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we create a Wikisource specific QR code generator tool for the NS0
>>>>> pages?
>>>>>
>>>>> People often forget the urls or sometimes doesn't know the way to
>>>>> search texts in Wikisource. If we can generate qr codes, that would also
>>>>> benefit libraries from remote places or readers who don't have computers 
>>>>> in
>>>>> their possession .
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it will definitely increase the viewership of the site to a
>>>>> significant amount.  What's your opinion regarding this?
>>>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] QR Codes for Wikisource texts

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Hi Ilario,

It's related to digital literacy. Not everyone knows about the process of
online search of books or how to find QR codes.

When readers check small libraries for those books, which the libraries
don't have, they return empty handed. Instead, if we provide the libraries
with QR codes, the readers will be satisfied and libraries can retain their
readers.

Regards,
On Jul 7, 2017 11:08 AM, "Ilario Valdelli" <valde...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In all of your discussion I have not undertood why someone should go to
> the library to have a qrcode while it is available online.
>
> Kind regards
>
> On 7 Jul 2017 07:22, "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There has been significant decline in library readerships in India.
>> Libraries are remaining almost empty throughout the day. I believe, that is
>> because, with the increasing usage of internet, there has been a change in
>> behaviour about reading physical books. People are preferring to remain
>> online and get information from the internet, rather than to stay in a
>> library and study there. The libraries are not also coping with this
>> scenario and not upgrading themselves, and losing readers.
>>
>> Also, the smart phone penetration in India is also increasing. It has
>> been estimated almost one third of Indian citizens will use smart phone by
>> 2019 and that's a huge number. Nowadays, many people who do not have
>> computers, have smartphones with cheaper internet than before. But many of
>> them doesn't know how to search a book in internet, even if does find some
>> book, tends to forget the urls, and unfortunately almost nobody knows
>> anything about Wikisource, even from the academy.
>>
>> Now, if we have a QR code generation system for Wikisource, we can
>> collaborate with the town libraries or college libraries, send them the
>> codes and help them build a QR code library of books. They can give the
>> codes to readers according to their demands, which will redirect them to
>> Wikisource. We can also generate QR codes for every book we work on and
>> upload them to Commons with a suitable title, creating a QR code library
>> ourselves, thus making the codes google searchable and accessible to the
>> readers. In every case, the viewership of the site will increase.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2017 7:52 AM, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly, this can be done.
>>>
>>> Could you elaborate a little more about the use scenarios you are
>>> imagining?
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:32 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Can we create a Wikisource specific QR code generator tool for the NS0
>>>> pages?
>>>>
>>>> People often forget the urls or sometimes doesn't know the way to
>>>> search texts in Wikisource. If we can generate qr codes, that would also
>>>> benefit libraries from remote places or readers who don't have computers in
>>>> their possession .
>>>>
>>>> I think it will definitely increase the viewership of the site to a
>>>> significant amount.  What's your opinion regarding this?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikisource-l] QR Codes for Wikisource texts

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Hi,

There has been significant decline in library readerships in India.
Libraries are remaining almost empty throughout the day. I believe, that is
because, with the increasing usage of internet, there has been a change in
behaviour about reading physical books. People are preferring to remain
online and get information from the internet, rather than to stay in a
library and study there. The libraries are not also coping with this
scenario and not upgrading themselves, and losing readers.

Also, the smart phone penetration in India is also increasing. It has been
estimated almost one third of Indian citizens will use smart phone by 2019
and that's a huge number. Nowadays, many people who do not have computers,
have smartphones with cheaper internet than before. But many of them
doesn't know how to search a book in internet, even if does find some book,
tends to forget the urls, and unfortunately almost nobody knows anything
about Wikisource, even from the academy.

Now, if we have a QR code generation system for Wikisource, we can
collaborate with the town libraries or college libraries, send them the
codes and help them build a QR code library of books. They can give the
codes to readers according to their demands, which will redirect them to
Wikisource. We can also generate QR codes for every book we work on and
upload them to Commons with a suitable title, creating a QR code library
ourselves, thus making the codes google searchable and accessible to the
readers. In every case, the viewership of the site will increase.

Regards,

On Jul 7, 2017 7:52 AM, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Certainly, this can be done.
>
> Could you elaborate a little more about the use scenarios you are
> imagining?
>
> A.
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:32 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Can we create a Wikisource specific QR code generator tool for the NS0
>> pages?
>>
>> People often forget the urls or sometimes doesn't know the way to search
>> texts in Wikisource. If we can generate qr codes, that would also benefit
>> libraries from remote places or readers who don't have computers in their
>> possession .
>>
>> I think it will definitely increase the viewership of the site to a
>> significant amount.  What's your opinion regarding this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bodhisattwa
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[Wikisource-l] QR Codes for Wikisource texts

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

Can we create a Wikisource specific QR code generator tool for the NS0
pages?

People often forget the urls or sometimes doesn't know the way to search
texts in Wikisource. If we can generate qr codes, that would also benefit
libraries from remote places or readers who don't have computers in their
possession .

I think it will definitely increase the viewership of the site to a
significant amount.  What's your opinion regarding this?

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[Wikisource-l] Need help

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Hi,

Is there a way to get a list of NS0 transcluded pages sorted according to
the proofread quality status?

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Re: [Wikisource-l] A draft nsPage viewer

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Wow! This is awesome!!

Can you please help it localise for Bengali Wikisource?

Thanks

On 14 June 2017 at 11:32, Alex Brollo  wrote:

> Try this link:
>
> https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Indice:Collodi_-_Le_
> avventure_di_Pinocchio,_Bemporad,_1892.djvu?vis=true
>
> I hope, it will be inspiring for something better.
>
> Alex brollo,  itwikisource
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikistats 2.0 and Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Also Phe can be requested to provide book based stats considering only NS0
basepages and no subpages.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
Dear all,
the WMF is creating a Wikistats 2.0, a new platform for visualizing stats
about project.
The idea is great, because better analytics means better knowledge of the
project and better insights for us the community.

For this week, until next Monday, they are accepting feedbacks:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikistats_2.0_Design_
Project/RequestforFeedback/Round1

I already wrote something about the fact that metrics are always
"wikipedia-centric" and for Wikisource we would need them to "aggregate"
edits at a "book level".
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikistats_2.0_Design_Project/
RequestforFeedback/Round1/Site_dashboard

If you agree, please say so in that page ;-)

Aubrey

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[Wikisource-l] Bengali Wikisource 10th Anniversary Contest

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

FYI, a 7-month long (January 1, 2017 - July 31, 2017). marathon
proofreading contest has been organized on the occasion of 10th Anniversary
of Bengali Wikisource.

Event page - https://bn.wikisource.org/s/cal0


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Eastern Punjabi Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

Great news!! Its really good to see another language getting OCR support.

Best of luck,
Bodhisattwa


On 28 October 2016 at 20:39, Satdeep Gill  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I would like to share with immense pleasure that finally Google OCR has
> started recognizing Gurmukhi text instead of showing Chinese characters. We
> have been editing Eastern Punjabi Wikisource regularly for the past few
> months. We also have some books which can be uploaded on local wiki only. I
> would like to propose that pa.wikisource.org be created.
>
> Check the meta page here:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_
> languages/Wikisource_Eastern_Punjabi
>
> Stats can be checked here:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?
> cat=1=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AC%
> E0%A9%80=sourceswiki
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Community Tech new hire

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Sam,

Congratulations for joining the community tech team.

And also many many thanks for what all you have done for the OCR issue of
Indic Wikisource communities. It's because of amazing people like you,
Kaldari and Shrinivasan, the crisis is almost over and the projects have
got the much-needed momentum.

Best wishes,
Bodhisattwa
On Sep 16, 2016 12:53 PM, "Thomas Tanon"  wrote:

> Hello Sam,
>
> Congratulations! That's amazing! I really hope you will be able to keep
> making the Wikisource tech backlog lower [1].
>
> Congrats again,
>
> Thomas
>
> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikisource/
>
>
> > Le 16 sept. 2016 à 05:23, Sam Wilson  a écrit :
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've recently started working on the Community Tech team
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech at the Wikimedia
> > Foundation. So I just wanted to say hi and that I'm really excited to be
> > able to work on Wikimedia code full-time! :-)
> >
> > Community Tech is all about helping build tools that support
> > contributors, and basically takes its work-list from the annual
> > Community Wishlist Survey:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
> >
> > For the last couple of weeks I've been working on a tool to bring better
> > OCR to indic-language Wikisources, via Google's Cloud Vision API:
> > https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Google_OCR
> >
> > I'm not at all exclusively working on Wiksource stuff of course, not by
> > a long shot. But that's still where my personal interest lies, and so if
> > anyone's got any ideas about future software development that we need
> > then I'm keen to help if I can. And this year's Wishlist Survey will be
> > happening before too long, so get ready to list stuff there!
> >
> > Lastly, please be gentle with me as I try to figure out how to shift to
> > life not-as-a-volunteer! (Although I'm still a volunteer too.) I'm
> > trying very hard to be transparent and professional and not blur the
> > various roles gets confusing though! :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sam.
> >
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Good news about CropTool

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Thanks a lot Alex, to make the necessary changes in javascript and help to
deploy the gadget in Bengali Wikisource. You are awesome.

Best Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 16 August 2016 at 19:33, Alex Brollo  wrote:

> CropTool now can crop & uoload into Commons illustrations from djvu and
> pdf files. We are testing the tool at it.wikisource and we all agree that
> it is now a surprisingly useful tool for daily wikisource work.
> Please test it and give some feedback and some more suggestions to its
> author, Danmichaelo (*thanks Dan!*)
> The local gadget to call the tool from Commons::
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CropTool.js
> should be implemented into wikisource projects with some changes; see
> it.source version:
> https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CropTool.js as an
> example.
>
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[Wikisource-l] WikiConference India 2016

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Hi,

Here is the final program schedule of upcoming WikiConference India 2016.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Programs

There is a track for Wikisource on 6th August, where 5 Wikisourcers from 3
Indic communities will have their presentations and conduct workshops.

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Spoken Wikisource for Wikiradio

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>
>
> And now
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiradio_(tool)/playlist/Spoken_Wikisource/fr
> \o/
> (with a lot of poetry inside and a little bit of Nietzsche ; I'll add
> other files when I'll have enough time)
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
>
And also started the Bengali Wikisource station with a poem of Rabindranath
Tagore.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiradio_%28tool%29/playlist/Spoken_Wikisource/bn

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[Wikisource-l] Spoken Wikisource for Wikiradio

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Hi all,

As you all know, that we have Wikiradio with us, which transmits real-time
audio service via the Internet as synchronized set of tracks.

* https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiradio/

FYI, I have just started two new Spoken Wikisource specific stations to the
radio.

*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiradio_%28tool%29/playlist/Spoken_Wikisource/de
for de WS

*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiradio_%28tool%29/playlist/Spoken_Wikisource/en
for en WS

Interested Wikisourcers are requested to add more audio files to this
stations. It would also be great to add more spoken Wikisource stations in
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[Wikisource-l] Request for update tesseract-ben package at tool labs

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Hi,

Can anyone please update the tesseract-ben package at tool labs? Its a
community need in Bengali Wikisource.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117711

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimedia Conference report

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Hi,

Thanks for your great effort, Andrea. This really gives hope to the global
Wikisource community.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On 3 May 2016 at 12:53, Alex Brollo  wrote:

> It's impressive to realize that it.source is a tiny community inside a
> larger, but nevertheless "tiny community" (the whole wikisource
> community)...
>
> Alex brollo
>
> 2016-05-02 17:53 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni :
>
>> Dear all,
>> last week I represented the Wikisource Community user Group at the
>> Wikimedia Conference, in Berlin.
>>
>> As usual, it has been a great opportunity to talk and meet fellow
>> wikimedians, especially after the turmoil of the recent months in our
>> movement (Lila and the other multiple resignations from WMF; Denny and
>> James leaving the Board, etc.).
>>
>> The atmosphere was quite calm and friendly, and this was a good sign.
>> I've spoken with many WMF employees and they all said "we're in a better
>> place now". There is hope for the future and they want to do a lot of
>> things. All this is positive, IMHO, especially after the things I'll
>> explain now.
>>
>> I've spoke with many people; especially
>> * Danny Horn and Ryan Kaldari of Community Tech team
>> * Alex Stinson, "The Wikipedia Library"
>> * Asaf Bartov, which all of you know well :-D
>> * Katy Love, Director of Resources
>> * Katherine Mayer, interim ED (!!)
>>
>> I'll start from this last one.
>> Unfortunately I had my flight scheduled right after the meeting, so I was
>> in a rush. But I met with Katherine and other 2 members of other user
>> groups: it was the first time (that I know of) that the ED of the WMF took
>> the time to speak with such tiny groups, and that says something.
>> She was *genuinely* interested in knowing about Wikisource, and I hope
>> our conversation will continue in the future.
>>
>> But a general "interest" in WS was all that I hoped for.
>>
>> Discussions (separate and collective) with Alex, Danny and Asaf were much
>> more fruitful.
>>
>> * Alex Stinson is really interested in promoting Wikisource in the
>> context of GLAM-WIKI, which makes perfectly sense and has been don already.
>> Wikimedia Italia use Wikisource a lot in his talks with libraries and
>> archives, and we are seeing good results. GLAM-WIKI has a "political"
>> priority in the Wikimedia world, so we should harness that.
>>
>> * Asaf is the "Head of Emerging Communities", and I don't see why not we
>> should *not* be see an emergent community! I don't really know what is the
>> daily job of Asaf but if he's the person to speak to for the Wikisource
>> community, we are in great hands.
>>
>> * Probably the best discussion I had was with Danny Horn, from Community
>> Tech.
>> Danny is one of the guys behind the Community Wishlist Survey.
>> He was really astonished (he said it many times) by the response from the
>> Wikisource community in that survey, and was the first to understand that,
>> if they are bound to count absolute votes to proposals, our tiny community
>> needs will never be addressed. They have that in mind and will change
>> things for the following surveys.
>>
>> Danny spent *a whole hour* with me looking at Wikisource.
>> I should him the Proofread Page extension, the phe stats, the EPUB
>> generator. He was really shocked but what we do, how "details-oriented" we
>> are (I used less politically-correct adjectives :-), and how much work we
>> put into things.
>>
>> He also saw a bunch of things who could really get some quick help (for
>> example, incresing the size of the radio buttons, or changing some icons,
>> or stuff like that) which I think would be great.
>>
>> In the end, he was really excited and wanted to do stuff.  Of course, he
>> didn't promise anything because his schedule is full, but there is maybe
>> the chance to finally push Wikisource into the agenda of the WMF.
>>
>> All in all,
>> I was pretty happy with how people were interested in the project and I
>> think there is concrete room for improvement.
>>
>> Let me know what you think :-)
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikimania: Call for posters

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

2016-03-06 16:59 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :

> Of course I'll be there too.
> An of course we should find a way, as always, to meet as wikisourcians in
> Esino.
> I'll be there, so at least there are 3 of us :-)
>

I will be there too. Thanks to the scholarship grant. Its great opportunity
for me to have a meet-up and learn from all of you again. It would be great
if we have a booth for Wikisource User group in the community village.


> what I'll look into is the perennial issue of lobbying/advocacy within the
> WMF. In Wien we said all that was needed to say: unfortunately the recent
> turmoil at the WMF made our request very low priority, but the WMConf in
> Berlin s a great occasion to restart the conversation (and I'll try to do
> that).
>

 Looking forward.

Meanwhile, I encourage all of you to come up with ideas: for example, the
> new Google OCR for Indic languages makes a perfect case of very good
> innovation within our Wikisources, and maybe it would be very helpful, for
> the community and for the WMF to understand, to gather data and show
> numbers of what happened and is happening.
> It would be amazing to show that users are increasing or such other
> insights.
>

Thanks to the international Wikisource community for all your support and
inputs in the process of building the OCR4Wikisource tool. It was only
possible because this international community has valued "Language equity"
so passionately. Indic language Wikisourcers shall remain ever grateful to
all of you for your empathy and understanding. We are now trying to gather
data, make help pages in the form of manuals, videos etc., so that other
small Wikisource projects, facing similar problems, can benefit themselves.
For Esino, we are also planning to make a poster about the project to be
displayed in India booth.

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Large djvu files from IA

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

On 1 March 2016 at 18:44, Federico Leva (Nemo)  wrote:

Link?
>

https://archive.org/details/bub_gal_ark_12148_bpt6k1040628d
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_lmhDcAAJ
https://archive.org/details/bub_man_adee2c3832c5798abc76e7b65f62ef4e
and many others. I have been noticing it for last 2-3 days. Before that, it
was ok.


> Might be https://github.com/rohit-dua/BUB/issues/49
>
>
Replied there about why we mark language English in stead of Bengali.

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Large djvu files from IA

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply and thanks for your response. I will make a list
and let you know.

By the way, recently I noticed IA is not making djvu files for BUB uploads.
If we are uploading files without using BUB, then IA is creating djvu and
there is no problem then. Can this be fixed?

Thanks again,
Bodhisattwa
On Feb 27, 2016 3:46 AM, "Yann Forget" <yan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Admins on Commons can upload files larger than 100 MB via
> upload-by-url. There is currently a timeout issue, so the limit is not
> a fixed figure.
> 200 MB files work fine most of the time. I even once managed once to
> upload a 300 MB file. If you need help, please give a list of files on
> my Commons talk page.
>
> Regards,
>
> Yann
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yann
>
> 2016-02-26 20:38 GMT+01:00 Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com
> >:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is it possible to transfer large djvu files (more than 100 mb) from
> Internet
> > Archive to Commons? I have tried IA-upload and url2commons tool but not
> > succeeded.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Bodhisattwa
> >
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

Another alternative is development of open source good quality OCR or
improve existing ones. Many tried in India and Bangladesh to create OCR by
taking Government funds but no one knows what happened to those projects.
We approached some of them but either they were reluctant to show the
results or they did not bother. WMF and WMIN were also approached to
develop the OCR, but we were said that they possess no such infrastructure
and expertise to run the project.

Besides, developing new OCR will take a lot of time and we can't postpone
our Wikisource projects based on it. We have already waited for a long time
for a good quality OCR. Few months ago, we were typing every page of a
novel word by word and that was our only way of proofreading. :-) But
that's past now.

We always hope to get better alternatives and if we find any, we will
definitely try to pursue it.

Regards,
On Feb 22, 2016 1:32 AM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bodhisattwa Mandal, 21/02/2016 17:13:
>
>> we don't have other options but to use the Google OCR tool.
>>
>
> This is not true, of course. There is always an alternative, the question
> is which alternative is worth pursuing.
>
> Nemo
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

The OCR4Wikisource script is evolving heavily. Already more than 1,50,000
pages have been OCRed in both Tamil and Bengali Wikisource using the
OCR4Wikisource script. The idea and the tool proved to be a game-changer
for Indic Wikisource projects.

And when we were getting some hope, Google announced that they will charge
for doing OCR using their drive.
https <https://cloud.google.com/vision/>://
<https://cloud.google.com/vision/>cloud.google.com
<https://cloud.google.com/vision/>/vision/
<https://cloud.google.com/vision/>

Is there any chance that WMF will go for negotiation with Google so that we
can do the mass OCR free of charge? I remember Asaf once told that this
possibility can be pursued. I think, now is the time to do that.

Regards,
Yeah!
I'm really happy that the BUB tool is resurrecting, and for the new OCR
script. Thanks everyone!

Aubrey

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am happy to inform, that Shrinivasan has created a python script to
>> automate the process in Linux system. This scripts upload the PDF files to
>> Google Drive, download the OCRed text and split, merge the text files
>> properly to fit as the PDF file. We have just tested the script for small
>> files in Kannad and Bengali Wikisource and it was successful. We are going
>> to test the script for using different types and sizes of files and in
>> other Indic languages in next few days.
>>
>> The script is in https://github.com/tshrinivasan/OCR4wikisource
>>
>
> Fantastic news!
>
>A.
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] BUB is back

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

The BUB queue is standing still for a quite a few days. Maintenance of
those files have already been done in IA, but they are not removed from the
queue, so, cant understand BUB is working or not.

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[Wikisource-l] InterWikiTransclusion.js for Bengali Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I need help from admins of old WS, regarding the topic in the following link
https://wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:InterWikiTransclusion.js#bn.wikisource

It has been reported in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124295

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Great. Thanks for the link. :-)

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Ankry,

It really helped. Problem solved.

Thanks a lot,
Bodhisattwa


On 18 January 2016 at 13:07, Ankry <an...@mif.pg.gda.pl> wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I
> faced
> > in Bengali Wikisource.
> >
> > There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used
> > the following code in Page 1:-
> >
> >  Text of Page 1 reference and text of Page 2
> > reference
> >
> > It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in
> mainspace,
> > its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates?
> > Thanks.
>
> This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use:
> ... on the following page(s), as described
> here:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_single_reference
>
> Ankry
>
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[Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I faced
in Bengali Wikisource.

There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used
the following code in Page 1:-

 Text of Page 1 reference and text of Page 2
reference

It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in mainspace,
its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.

Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates? Thanks.

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