Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Chengbin Zheng wrote: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. I don't think a static dump is the best way to keep wikipedia on your hd. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l It is the only way actually. Although I'm curious on what other ways one can use to keep Wikipedia Archos PMPs are not computers, but they do have the ability to go on the Internet, and read an HTML file offline through the hard drive. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Have wikimedia lucene-search config been published?
Then, could you please publish lsearch-global.conf onto NOC? On 8/28/09, Robert Stojnic rainma...@gmail.com wrote: We could publish lsearch-global.conf since it doesn't contain any private info, and there is only one. However, lsearch.conf is different for various searchers and contains passwords to access the OAI feed. r. Anon Sricharoenchai wrote: Where can I see the lucene-search configurations (lsearch.conf, lsearch-global.conf) of wikimedia? Could you published them in http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ ? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}
Robert Rohde wrote:
As I suggested yesterday, perhaps not very clearly, I think the
sensible thing to do is to bypass the Parser on most calls to messages
like Welcome to {{SITENAME}} by caching the post-transformed version
of the message, e.g Welcome to Wikipedia, in the MessageCache
instead. This should be possible if the message has no context
dependent substitutions (e.g. if the message avoids things like
substitution variables and context dependent magic words like
{{NAMESPACE}}).
It would mean teaching the parser to look for context dependent
elements and having some way to communicate that to the MessageCache
to allow it to decide whether to cache the pre-transformed or
post-transformed version. It would also mean categorizing magic words
to identify whether caching is allowed, but that seems like a
straightforward extension of the TTL hinting already done in
MagicWord. The magic word caching hints could also be used to help
decide how long the post-transformed version is likely to be good for.
My (somewhat vague) idea of how this could be done would be to add a new
constant-folding mode to the parser which only does brace substitution
for magic words that it knows to be essentially constant (and whose
parameters, if any, can be folded down to something that contains no
braces, numbered message parameters nor anything else potentially
variable) and leaves everything else alone.
It's been quite some time since I last looked at the parser code in any
detail, but surely that can't be *that* hard -- after all, we already
have the pre-save transform which does something quite similar.
The localization cache can just run everything through the parser in
constant-folding mode, cache the output, and then use the current check
(which I think simply checks for the presence of {{) to determine if
the message needs to be reparsed when it's actually used.
(Although Roan's suggestion of also folding things like {{CURRENTYEAR}}
and passing their expiration time to the cache may also be worth
considering. We could then just treat e.g. {{SITENAME}} as having an
infinite expiration time, and any truly uncacheable magic words as
expiring immediately.)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.org has been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}
2009/9/2 Ilmari Karonen nos...@vyznev.net:
(Although Roan's suggestion of also folding things like {{CURRENTYEAR}}
and passing their expiration time to the cache may also be worth
considering. We could then just treat e.g. {{SITENAME}} as having an
infinite expiration time, and any truly uncacheable magic words as
expiring immediately.)
When using CDB, the cache is constant. You can't do incremental
updates. And what if WMF uses *single* cache for all projects? Then
{{SITENAME}} wouldn't be constant anymore, and we would not get better
performance where it is needed most. It could help other MediaWiki
installations a bit, just how much... I don't know.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Hi Chengbin, ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM = Zeno IMproved). There are currently several reader applications for it, for instance the zimreader made by the openZIM project or Kiwix. There are some ports around like Kiwix on Windows and zimreader on openmoko / ARM. The zimreader by openZIM works like a small webserver, it serves the contents of the ZIM file locally. Once the HTML dump on static.wikimedia.org is fixed and ZIM file creation has been integrated you will be able to download fresh ZIM files of all Wikimedia projects directly from download.wikimedia.org. Currently the Kiwix team has created some ZIM files and we try to build a ZIM file directory: http://openzim.org/ZIM_File_Archive ZIM actually stores the article text portion of the HTML output of the Wiki in a compressed cluster. It can hold also all type of other MIME types such as images, CSS files etc. http://openzim.org/ZIM_File_Format It is an open standard and has currently been developed and implemented by the openZIM team (sponsored by Wikimedia CH) in C++. There is a library (zimlib) which can be integrated in other reader or dumping applications to make them ZIM-aware. Using the open documentation ZIM can be implemented in any other language as well. The idea of ZIM is to make the data files freely interchangeable with any reader application. It is also flexible enough to store other works than only data from Wikipedia/MediaWiki. Then it tries to keep the reader application as simple and stupid as possible. There is only uncompression and HTML rendering to be done while a HTML renderer should be available on nearly all devices. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.orghas been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l I'm not familiar with the file extension .zim. What is that? Some sort of compressed html format like .chm? Where can I get a .zim file? I need to get check if this format is compatible with my Archos's Opera browser. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Hi Chengbin, ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM = Zeno IMproved). There are currently several reader applications for it, for instance the zimreader made by the openZIM project or Kiwix. There are some ports around like Kiwix on Windows and zimreader on openmoko / ARM. The zimreader by openZIM works like a small webserver, it serves the contents of the ZIM file locally. Once the HTML dump on static.wikimedia.org is fixed and ZIM file creation has been integrated you will be able to download fresh ZIM files of all Wikimedia projects directly from download.wikimedia.org. Currently the Kiwix team has created some ZIM files and we try to build a ZIM file directory: http://openzim.org/ZIM_File_Archive ZIM actually stores the article text portion of the HTML output of the Wiki in a compressed cluster. It can hold also all type of other MIME types such as images, CSS files etc. http://openzim.org/ZIM_File_Format It is an open standard and has currently been developed and implemented by the openZIM team (sponsored by Wikimedia CH) in C++. There is a library (zimlib) which can be integrated in other reader or dumping applications to make them ZIM-aware. Using the open documentation ZIM can be implemented in any other language as well. The idea of ZIM is to make the data files freely interchangeable with any reader application. It is also flexible enough to store other works than only data from Wikipedia/MediaWiki. Then it tries to keep the reader application as simple and stupid as possible. There is only uncompression and HTML rendering to be done while a HTML renderer should be available on nearly all devices. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.orghas been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l I'm not familiar with the file extension .zim. What is that? Some sort of compressed html format like .chm? Where can I get a .zim file? I need to get check if this format is
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: Well, as I said, Archos devices are not computers. They're merely portable video players with an internet browser. That's why I seek the static HTML version of Wikipedia. I see. But maybe it is possible to install a reader or at least the zimreader as webserver, which can be used with the built-in browser. At least it won't take much ressources. Will there be easy extraction of zim to HTML? Extracting a dump is too difficult. Of course it is possible, that's exactly what the zimreader does when serving pages. But as the HTML dump working on Wikimedia clusters is a requirement for ZIM file creation you can just go with the HTML dump from there as well. Greets, Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] 5 millions
Hi, everyone, Wikimedia Commons, the media repository site used by Wikipedia, today just reached the 5 million media files milestone. Every one of these media files is available under a free license, such that anyone can use them for any purpose. Wikimedia Commons is the largest free media repository on the internet. Zeyi He Wikimedia UK ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Hoi, For you information Okawix is localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Okawix 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.orghas been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-ZIM GPL'ed ZenoReader and ZenoWriter which has been developed by the openZIM team before we started ZIM, but they changed it to be incompatible with Zeno and ZIM. So Okawix can be regarded to be as proprietary as well as also a GPL violation. We have been contacted by Linterweb (the company behind Okawix) several times and we also invited them to the developers meeting, but actually they do not seem to be able for a collaboration with an open source community. The Wikimedia Foundation had a similar experience when trying to work with them. /Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, For you information Okawix is localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Okawix 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.orghas been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Exclude entries from RecentChange and NewPages list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, we try to exclude from - - RSS/Atom feeds of RC and New Pages list generally and - - Special Pages of RC and New Pages for users not in a custom user group all entries or __at least__ the diffs and new page content for all pages of a custom namespace. Where is the right place to hook in and check the entries (or part of content for them) to be potentially excluded? Where can we configure Feed content/structure? Uwe (Baumbach) u.baumb...@web.de Besuchen Sie den 61. Deutschen Genealogentag! 11.-14. September 2009 http://www.genealogentag.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFKnoHNFEbayCH8zXkRAvbiAJ9O+rhrpVolxSscs0Xvl7QkndM7QwCg8oY8 vpHzObrmzt5mZlPGMwn0KJY= =AnhX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
2009/9/2 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Why do you say that it is proprietary and why do you state that there is a GPL violation ? Making accusations like this without providing evidence is not what I expect. [snip] 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-ZIM GPL'ed ZenoReader and ZenoWriter which has been developed by the openZIM team before we started ZIM, but they changed it to be incompatible with Zeno and ZIM. Taking code from a GPLed project and putting it in a non-GPLed (or non-GPL-compatible) project is a violation of the GPL. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Roan Kattouw Verzonden: woensdag 2 september 2009 18:10 Taking code from a GPLed project and putting it in a non-GPLed (or non-GPL-compatible) project is a violation of the GPL. Well, that is stating the obvious. The question is: what makes Okawix violate the GPL license? Or was it slander? Siebrand ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Hoi, I referred to a place where the code can be found. The code states that it is GPL code. So what are you saying... That it is not ??? Thanks, GerardM 2009/9/2 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2009/9/2 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Why do you say that it is proprietary and why do you state that there is a GPL violation ? Making accusations like this without providing evidence is not what I expect. [snip] 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-ZIM GPL'ed ZenoReader and ZenoWriter which has been developed by the openZIM team before we started ZIM, but they changed it to be incompatible with Zeno and ZIM. Taking code from a GPLed project and putting it in a non-GPLed (or non-GPL-compatible) project is a violation of the GPL. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] 5 millions
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:14 AM, zh...@york.ac.uk wrote: Hi, everyone, Wikimedia Commons, the media repository site used by Wikipedia, today just reached the 5 million media files milestone. Every one of these media files is available under a free license, such that anyone can use them for any purpose. Wikimedia Commons is the largest free media repository on the internet. Not counting the ~5000 non-free files that are currently identified as Copyright by Wikimedia. And not worrying about the 18M CC-BY / CC-BY-SA images on Flickr (which is arguably still the largest free content image repository, though that's not the only way Flickr is used). -Robert Rohde ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}
Niklas Laxström wrote: Localisation cache caches only static content, not in-wiki customisations. On the other hand, it needs some trickery if the set of extensions differ between wikis, but should still be possible. But I'm just guessing, I don't know how they are going to set it up. How is it going to improve the current message files? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Niklas
Laxströmniklas.laxst...@gmail.com wrote:
When using CDB, the cache is constant. You can't do incremental
updates.
You can, you just have to write an entirely new database every time.
This will already have to be done every time the messages change.
Changes to {{SITENAME}} should be much rarer, so it shouldn't be a big
burden.
And what if WMF uses *single* cache for all projects?
If the cache is only for default messages (is it?), then of course it
doesn't help here. We could still use memcached.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Platonidesplatoni...@gmail.com wrote:
How is it going to improve the current message files?
Because it would be able to read only the messages it needed and not
have to execute megabytes of useless PHP code on every request, I
assume.
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