Re: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > "According to an Email from a Corel development engineer in > early 1999 to the Wine Project's public mailing list server > for developers, Corel had begun work by then on porting the > Wine tools themselves to the Mac PowerPC platform. Corel has > left no doubts that its cross platform goals extend beyond > the Windows and Linux platforms." Remember also that Corel supports Draw on the Mac. Since this would share most of the codebase with Draw Windows, there already exists a Win32-on-the-Mac compatibility layer, developed in house long before Wine entered the picture. Certainly the last quoted sentence is true (their cross platform goals extend to the Mac) and it would seem to be a good idea to only have to rely on one cross platform Win32 layer. Of course, there's a difference between good ideas, good ideas that they are working on, and good ideas that they are working on that they are willing to talk about. Based on what Jeff says, this is probably just a good idea, nothing more. doug. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > http://www.penguinista.org/news/articles/277.html > > "According to an Email from a Corel development engineer in > early 1999 to the Wine Project's public mailing list server > for developers, Corel had begun work by then on porting the > Wine tools themselves to the Mac PowerPC platform. Corel has > left no doubts that its cross platform goals extend beyond > the Windows and Linux platforms." > > Hmm. I don't remember any such email. I remember the e-mail they are probably referring to. I think it was Gavriel, Stating (sorry!) that he had a couple of simple WineLib apps running on a PowerPC laptop under Linux? > Perhaps they are misstakenly refering to the attempt > (or rather test) to port WineLib to _Linux_ on PowerPC. That would be my guess too. > In any case I wonder how Corel intends to do the port to the > Macintosh? Are Macintosh supposed to mean MacOS X or normal MacOS? > Porting WineLib to MacOS X is probably possible with a reasonable > effort. Getting WineLib running on MacOS X would make sense for them; then they could use a single codebase for Linux and Mac apps. Add some input from Cygnus, and they could have a single main codebase supporting Windows, Linux and Mac platforms across multiple CPU architectures - probably something they'd be pleased with ;-) James.
RE: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
> Patrik Stridvall wrote:
> >
> > OK. I'm just curious about the possibillities of porting
> > Wine to yet another platform (MacOS X). Since MacOS
> > are supposed to be similar and indeed IIRC even share
> > some code with *BSD OS:s porting WineLib might not be
> > that hard.
>
> As I understood it, MacOS X does not use X11 for its
> windowing system, although there are X servers available.
That is my understanding too.
> So I imagine Wine running under X11 would not integrate
> very well with native Mac applications.
True, but if it was possible make Wine (WineLib) run under
MacOS X under X Windows a MacOS X driver (macosxdrv) could
be written later.
Actually you could, as soon as it worked under X11, make a pseudo
MacOS X driver that inherited the X11 driver while providing
closer MacOS X integration for the clipboard or whatever that
needed closer integration.
Anyway writting a real MacOS X driver will probably not be that
hard. It will be some work with the details but there are no
difficult problems that is needed to be solved AFAICS.
The BeOS port mainly failed because of the lack of support
for common Unix functions like mmap and {send,recv}msg
and the fact that file handles and sockets are not the same,
not for any other reasons. These should be non issues on
MacOS X AFAIK.
Re: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > There might have been some exploratory work > > on the Linux PowerPC platform way back then, but that was > > the extent of it. > > That is about the same thing that I remember. This was posted by Gav a while back: Re: Wine PPC? Resent-Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 08:54:31 -0600 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:50:45 -0400 From: Gavriel State <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: michael_cardenas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: wine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: winehq.wine.devel References: 1 michael_cardenas wrote: > > We have had a large number of requests to port our software to LinuxPPC. > Apparently lots of graphics software users have macs running canvas and are > interested in this type of port. > > Is this really feasible? What are your opinions on the possibility of > this? I imagine it would mostly require the porting of the asm code, which > there doesn't seem to be much of... I had some simple WineLib apps up and running on LinuxPPC about a year ago. Check the wine-patches archives for my work: not all of it made it in, due to the fact that I fudged around some important things like the exception handling structures, and register-based calling conventions for some APIs. I may have a tarball around somewhere -Gav -- Gavriel State Gainfully Unemployed Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The address in the headers is not the poster's real email address. Do not send private mail to the poster using your mailer's "reply" feature. CC's of mail to mailing lists are OK. Problem reports to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The poster's email address is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
Re: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > OK. I'm just curious about the possibillities of porting > Wine to yet another platform (MacOS X). Since MacOS > are supposed to be similar and indeed IIRC even share > some code with *BSD OS:s porting WineLib might not be > that hard. As I understood it, MacOS X does not use X11 for its windowing system, although there are X servers available. So I imagine Wine running under X11 would not integrate very well with native Mac applications. -- The address in the headers is not the poster's real email address. Do not send private mail to the poster using your mailer's "reply" feature. CC's of mail to mailing lists are OK. Problem reports to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The poster's email address is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
RE: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
> I'm not officially speaking for Corel, but I'm not aware of > any such plans. I understand. > There might have been some exploratory work > on the Linux PowerPC platform way back then, but that was > the extent of it. That is about the same thing that I remember. > Besides, everything we're doing with Wine is visible as > patches and our public CVS tree. OK. I'm just curious about the possibillities of porting Wine to yet another platform (MacOS X). Since MacOS are supposed to be similar and indeed IIRC even share some code with *BSD OS:s porting WineLib might not be that hard.
Re: Corel porting WordPerfect Office to the MacIntosh
I'm not officially speaking for Corel, but I'm not aware of any such plans. There might have been some exploratory work on the Linux PowerPC platform way back then, but that was the extent of it. Besides, everything we're doing with Wine is visible as patches and our public CVS tree. Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > http://www.penguinista.org/news/articles/277.html > > "According to an Email from a Corel development engineer in > early 1999 to the Wine Project's public mailing list server > for developers, Corel had begun work by then on porting the > Wine tools themselves to the Mac PowerPC platform. Corel has > left no doubts that its cross platform goals extend beyond > the Windows and Linux platforms." > > Hmm. I don't remember any such email. > > Perhaps they are misstakenly refering to the attempt > (or rather test) to port WineLib to _Linux_ on PowerPC. > > In any case I wonder how Corel intends to do the port > to the Macintosh? Are Macintosh supposed to mean MacOS X > or normal MacOS? Porting WineLib to MacOS X is probably > possible with a reasonable effort. > > Anybody at Corel that care to comment? -- Jeff Tranter Project Leader, Linux Development (Wine team), Corel Corporation The free download of Corel PHOTO-PAINT for Linux is now available. Check it out at http://linux.corel.com/products/pp9 -- The address in the headers is not the poster's real email address. Do not send private mail to the poster using your mailer's "reply" feature. CC's of mail to mailing lists are OK. Problem reports to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The poster's email address is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
