Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[KyWiFi LLC]

It's okay to mention StarOS Lonnie, the more details
the better IMO.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Yes that is with WAR boards and StarV3, but the point was more the
range that can be attained and the antenna used (which is why I did
not even mention StarOS).

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.
>
> I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
> 5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?
>
>
> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
> "Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
> http://www.KyWiFi.com
> Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
>
>
> We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
> in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
> directions very nicely.
>
> I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
> with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
> solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
> survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
> signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
> is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
> of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
> it was stable and usable.
>
> Lonnie
>
> On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
> > it and I'm sure others do too!
> >
> > Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
> > instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
> > is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
> > PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
> >
> > TGIF.
> >
> >
> > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
> > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
> > http://www.KyWiFi.com
> > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
> > ===
> > $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
> > $14.99 Home Phone Service
> > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
> > - No Phone Line Required for DSL
> > - FREE Activation & Equipment
> > - Affordable Upfront Pricing
> > - Locally Owned & Operated
> > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas
> > ===
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
> >
> >
> > Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
> > Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
> > While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
> > What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
> > about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
> > and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
> > always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
> > subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
> > or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
> > luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
> > locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
> > the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
> > way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
> > out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
> > needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
> > so much better.
> > Superior Wireless
> > New Orleans,La.
> > www.superior1.com
> >
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RE: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

[C. Moses]

I can't believe how Nuvio is trying to pawn this off again..

The denial is the hardest to swallow...

Chuck Moses 
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Mojave CA 93501 
661 824 3431 office
818 406 6818 cell 


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

Peter R. wrote:
> How about buying a partition on a Sylantro switch?
> Much more robust than Asterisk - and it can replace all of the features 
> that your Nuvio IP Centrex people had.
> 
Funny you mentioned Sylantro, Pete is one of my wisp customers at his 
vacation home here.
I talked to him 4 years ago about offering voip and using Sylantro, he 
didn't sound like they delt with small companies.

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RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With DataFloAcquisition

[Charles Wu]

I love this...

[quote]
"Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity services.
It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed bands -
speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables "
[/quote]

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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:47 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With
DataFloAcquisition


Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets of 
DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
adding a sixth market to its coverage area.

Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping with 
Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA accretive. The 
transaction is expected to close later this month subject to customary 
closing conditions and regulatory approvals.

Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, San 
Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.

Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning and 
priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in response to 
regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to incumbent broadband 
networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, the DataFlo deal is 
more of a continuation of an overlay network strategy.

Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed 
bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables 
Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals from 25 days 
for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables the company to 
serve clientele with temporary needs.

Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses via 
a direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help 
Covad to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Lonnie Nunweiler]

Yes that is with WAR boards and StarV3, but the point was more the
range that can be attained and the antenna used (which is why I did
not even mention StarOS).

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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http://www.KyWiFi.com
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- Original Message -
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
> it and I'm sure others do too!
>
> Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
> instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
> is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
> PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
>
> TGIF.
>
>
> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
> "Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
> http://www.KyWiFi.com
> Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
> ===
> $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
> $14.99 Home Phone Service
> $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
> - No Phone Line Required for DSL
> - FREE Activation & Equipment
> - Affordable Upfront Pricing
> - Locally Owned & Operated
> - We Also Service Most Rural Areas
> ===
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
>
>
> Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
> Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
> While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
> What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
> about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
> and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
> always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
> subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
> or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
> luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
> locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
> the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
> way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
> out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
> needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
> so much better.
> Superior Wireless
> New Orleans,La.
> www.superior1.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

[George Rogato]

Peter R. wrote:

How about buying a partition on a Sylantro switch?
Much more robust than Asterisk - and it can replace all of the features 
that your Nuvio IP Centrex people had.


Funny you mentioned Sylantro, Pete is one of my wisp customers at his 
vacation home here.
I talked to him 4 years ago about offering voip and using Sylantro, he 
didn't sound like they delt with small companies.


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Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities

[Matt Liotta]

Sam Tetherow wrote:
The announcement was 'pre-wimax' which means damned near anything 
EXCEPT wimax ;)  I would think if they were looking at .16e they would 
announce it to be the most buzzword complaint.


BST is running CDMA using Navinia, which is supposed to be upgradeable 
to WiMAX.


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Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities

[Sam Tetherow]

Now that makes sense, and they will use #2 to justify #1 because I 
rarely find that #2 by itself motivates them.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Mark Del Bianco wrote:
BST is doing this for two other reasons, also.  They've been accused 
of warehousing the spectrum to prevent competitive uses, and several 
commentors in the AT&T/BST merger proceeding have asked the FCC to 
order spectrum divestiture as a condition of merger approval.  If they 
don't roll it out (or at least announce it) now, they'll be more at 
risk of losing it to someone else. 

Second, they claim they're using it in areas where DSL can't reach 
becuase of the +- 18K foot limitation.


Full disclosure: I represent a CLEC in the AT&T/BST merger proceeding 
and am opposing unconditional approval.


Mark

*/Rich Comroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

Isn't it the WiMAX "mobility" opportunity? Wasn't the original
802.16 specs
completely rewritten to add the opportunity for mobility?

Rich

- Original Message -
From: "Sam Tetherow"
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities


> This may be a bit silly since I'm only a wireless guy (don't do
DSL or
> anything else). But if you are the telco, why would you want to go
> wireless? I would think it would be cheaper and more reliable to
provide
> internet over the wire you already have strung to the customers
house...
> Anyone who knows better care to enlighten me?
>
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
>
> Peter R. wrote:
>> BellSouth Expands pre-WiMAX Service to 2 More Markets
>>
http://www.convergedigest.com/Wireless/broadbandwirelessarticle.asp?ID=19588
>>
>> BellSouth announced the expansion of its pre-WiMAX broadband
wireless
>> into
>> two new markets by late October -- select parts of Albany,
Georgia and
>> Paducah, Kentucky. Additionally, service will be expanded in
the New
>> Orleans
>> area to include New Orleans East. With these expansions,
BellSouth will
>> offer the service in 10 Southeastern markets, including four
markets
>> recently launched in September: North Charleston, S.C.;
Melbourne, Fla.;
>> Greenville, Miss.; and Chattanooga, Tenn.
>>
>> BellSouth Wireless Broadband Service offers downstream speeds
up to
>> 1.5Mbps
>> using its licensed WCS 2.3GHz spectrum.
>> http://www.bellsouth.net/wirelessbb
>> 05-Oct-06
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter
>> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
>> We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
>> 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025
>> http://4isps.com
>>
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Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities

[Sam Tetherow]

The announcement was 'pre-wimax' which means damned near anything EXCEPT 
wimax ;)  I would think if they were looking at .16e they would announce 
it to be the most buzzword complaint.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Rich Comroe wrote:
Isn't it the WiMAX "mobility" opportunity?  Wasn't the original 802.16 
specs completely rewritten to add the opportunity for mobility?


Rich

- Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities


This may be a bit silly since I'm only a wireless guy (don't do DSL 
or anything else).  But if you are the telco, why would you want to 
go wireless?  I would think it would be cheaper and more reliable to 
provide internet over the wire you already have strung to the 
customers house... Anyone who knows better care to enlighten me?


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Peter R. wrote:

BellSouth Expands pre-WiMAX Service to 2 More Markets
http://www.convergedigest.com/Wireless/broadbandwirelessarticle.asp?ID=19588 



BellSouth announced the expansion of its pre-WiMAX broadband 
wireless into

two new markets by late October -- select parts of Albany, Georgia and
Paducah, Kentucky. Additionally, service will be expanded in the New 
Orleans

area to include New Orleans East. With these expansions, BellSouth will
offer the service in 10 Southeastern markets, including four markets
recently launched in September: North Charleston, S.C.; Melbourne, 
Fla.;

Greenville, Miss.; and Chattanooga, Tenn.

BellSouth Wireless Broadband Service offers downstream speeds up to 
1.5Mbps

using its licensed WCS 2.3GHz spectrum.
http://www.bellsouth.net/wirelessbb
05-Oct-06



Regards,

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Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

[Peter R.]

How about buying a partition on a Sylantro switch?
Much more robust than Asterisk - and it can replace all of the features 
that your Nuvio IP Centrex people had.


Regards,

Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.

KyWiFi LLC wrote:


Same here, our customers' calls were being routed to an automated
Qwest recording over the past few weeks. Not all calls, but something
like 8 out of every 10 calls placed.

Nuvio is going downhill, maybe they will turn things around and be
honest with their partners. If not, I don't expect to see them in business
for the longterm.

We are already taking initiatives to migrate our VoIP subscribers to
an in-house Asterisk server and I advise you and any others interested
in selling VoIP to do the same. We need to have the highest amount of
control over the services we sell consumers. When something goes
south, I want to kick myself in the rear and fix the problem instead of
being at the mercy of a third party vendor.


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Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities

[Mark Del Bianco]

BST is doing this for two other reasons, also.  They've been accused of warehousing the spectrum to prevent competitive uses, and several commentors in the AT&T/BST merger proceeding have asked the FCC to order spectrum divestiture as a condition of merger approval.  If they don't roll it out (or at least announce it) now, they'll be more at risk of losing it to someone else.  Second, they claim they're using it in areas where DSL can't reach becuase of the +- 18K foot limitation.Full disclosure: I represent a CLEC in the AT&T/BST merger proceeding and am opposing unconditional approval.MarkRich Comroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't it the WiMAX "mobility" opportunity?  Wasn't the original 802.16 specs completely rewritten to add the opportunity for
 mobility?Rich- Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:31 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities> This may be a bit silly since I'm only a wireless guy (don't do DSL or > anything else).  But if you are the telco, why would you want to go > wireless?  I would think it would be cheaper and more reliable to provide > internet over the wire you already have strung to the customers house... > Anyone who knows better care to enlighten me?>>Sam Tetherow>Sandhills Wireless>> Peter R. wrote:>> BellSouth Expands pre-WiMAX Service to 2 More Markets>> http://www.convergedigest.com/Wireless/broadbandwirelessarticle.asp?ID=19588 BellSouth announced the expansion of its pre-WiMAX
 broadband wireless >> into>> two new markets by late October -- select parts of Albany, Georgia and>> Paducah, Kentucky. Additionally, service will be expanded in the New >> Orleans>> area to include New Orleans East. With these expansions, BellSouth will>> offer the service in 10 Southeastern markets, including four markets>> recently launched in September: North Charleston, S.C.; Melbourne, Fla.;>> Greenville, Miss.; and Chattanooga, Tenn. BellSouth Wireless Broadband Service offers downstream speeds up to >> 1.5Mbps>> using its licensed WCS 2.3GHz spectrum.>> http://www.bellsouth.net/wirelessbb>> 05-Oct-06 Regards, Peter>> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist>> We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate>> 813.963.5884  efax
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Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

[KyWiFi LLC]

Same here, our customers' calls were being routed to an automated
Qwest recording over the past few weeks. Not all calls, but something
like 8 out of every 10 calls placed.

Nuvio is going downhill, maybe they will turn things around and be
honest with their partners. If not, I don't expect to see them in business
for the longterm.

We are already taking initiatives to migrate our VoIP subscribers to
an in-house Asterisk server and I advise you and any others interested
in selling VoIP to do the same. We need to have the highest amount of
control over the services we sell consumers. When something goes
south, I want to kick myself in the rear and fix the problem instead of
being at the mercy of a third party vendor.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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- Original Message - 
From: "C. Moses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?


We had the same BS
They had the nerve to tell us  basically the same as your letter but in our
case the actually disassociated numbers and business (when someone tried to
call) were receiving "this number is no longer in service" 
OH THIS WENT OVER WELL let me tell ya

And of course NUVIO recites the same rhetoric."we are not experiencing
network issues"

Humph !



Chuck Moses 
HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
16922 Airport Blvd # 17
Mojave CA 93501 
661 824 3431 office
818 406 6818 cell 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

Is our company the only Nuvio Private Label Partner who has reported
this to Nuvio or are there others? See their e-mail below...

From: Mike Roberts
To: KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: October & November Sales

Shannon, 

This is the first if have heard of this.  Nuvio has not been
experiencing any service issues, nor have we had any system wide
problems.  Do you have any specific examples?  Have you, or your
customers, contacted Nuvio technical support?  Do you have any ticket
numbers?

Lets get in touch to find out what is going on. 

Best regards,

Mike Roberts

-Original Message-
From: KyWiFi LLC
To: Mike Roberts
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: October & November Sales

Hi Mike,

Any idea when Nuvio is going resolve the call routing and
voice quality issues which have plagued the Nuvio service
over the past couple weeks? Our subscribers are dropping
like flies. The problem is not with our network as our subs
are switching to other VoIP providers and their service is
working flawlessly.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?


It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP 
tables twice a day.
Or it could be they are experiencing outages.
TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day).
XO had a bad outage this week.
Could be a billing issue.
Could be lots of things

- Peter

C. Moses wrote:

>AGAIN !!!
>
>Chuck Moses 
>HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
>16922 Airport Blvd # 17
>Mojave CA 93501 
>661 824 3431 office
>818 406 6818 cell 
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Brad Belton
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?
>
>Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website?  Phones are down too...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brad
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[KyWiFi LLC]

This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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- Original Message - 
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
> it and I'm sure others do too!
>
> Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
> instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
> is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
> PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
>
> TGIF.
>
>
> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
> "Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
> http://www.KyWiFi.com
> Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
> ===
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> $14.99 Home Phone Service
> $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
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> - FREE Activation & Equipment
> - Affordable Upfront Pricing
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> - We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
>
>
> Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
> Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
> While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
> What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
> about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
> and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
> always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
> subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
> or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
> luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
> locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
> the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
> way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
> out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
> needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
> so much better.
> Superior Wireless
> New Orleans,La.
> www.superior1.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik

[Butch Evans]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Dylan Oliver wrote:

Meru Networks does ~2ms handoffs between access points through 
controllers which run Redhat (or some other rpm-based distro; I 
forget). The access points report the signal level of clients to 
the controller, which then decides which AP to send traffic for the 
client through. It's simple, smart and just works .. as long as 
we're asking Mikrotik to add protocols for fast handoff, this is 
the way to go!


The network design that is there does not need this.  The last time 
I posted this information, the discussion turned into this.  You all 
can have it out about what is and is not roaming.  I don't expect to 
participate in that (again).  ;-)



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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Lonnie Nunweiler]

We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
it and I'm sure others do too!

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

TGIF.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
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- Original Message -
From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Joe Laura]

20mhz channels. No noise in the areas I tested. Im sure downtown will be
different. The mobile end was not mounted. I just had it in my hand stuck
out of the van window. So it was only 4' or so off the ground. A/P is only
90' from the ground. No tilt on the A/P 120* sector. John has specs on his
site for the horizontal 10dbi panel and sector.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message -
From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"

Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


> Was the test with 5, 10 or 20mhz channels? What was your noise floor at
> each test site? How was the mobile end
> mounted? What is the beamwidth on those antennas (or model numbers to
> look them up) and what elevation were
> each at? Any tilt on the antennas?
>
> Jeromie
>
> Joe Laura wrote:
>
> >Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a
532a.
> >Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the
client.
> >While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
> >What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
> >about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs
up
> >and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and
up
> >always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
> >subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have
bell
> >or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without
any
> >luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
> >locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer
to
> >the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in
the
> >way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to
peak
> >out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what
I
> >needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will
do
> >so much better.
> >Superior Wireless
> >New Orleans,La.
> >www.superior1.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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[WISPA] Fw: [TVWHITESPACE] FCC vote

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Hi All,

Here is the kind of work that WISPA is involved in for you.  These are some 
of the issues that make it important to join.  These fights take time and 
money.  The more folks that help out, the less of a load that we all have to 
bear.


This is from a list that Cisco, Intel, New America, WISPA, and a select 
handful of others participate on.


This is the latest data I have on what's happening on the 04-186 empty TV 
channels issue.  For those that don't know it, there is a lot of space in 
the 400 to 700 mhz range that's sitting empty in most markets today.  When 
the DTV switchover takes place, there will be even more.  We're working as 
hard as we can to get those channels opened up for unlicensed uses.


laters,
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Calabrese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: >
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TVWHITESPACE] FCC vote


Thanks Mike. Here's a summary I wrote after the meeting, fyi. LA Times
has an article this morning as well.

I attended the meeting and spoke to several staff after.
Unquestionably, the Order & FNPRM falls far short of -- and likely
undermines -- the broadband purposes of your Senate legislation.  Here's
what the Order will say and some impressions:

* No use of the white spaces until after Feb. 14, 2009 or end of
DTV transition (presumably whichever is later)
* Assumption that fixed access BB can operate on any of 2-51,
except 37
* Personal/portable will not be allowed anywhere on 14-20 (though
Copps/Adelstein got a footnote saying this is "for now" not permanently
barred)
* FNPRM will take comments on whether personal/portable access
will be allowed on "any" other channels (Julie Knapp emphasized this
negative framing in the press conference after, although Copps/Adelstein
staff seem to presume that personal/portable access will be allowed if
interference can be avoided)
* Will be questions whether assignment should be licensed,
unlicensed "or hybrid" (there is no rebuttable presumption or tentative
decision for unlicensed)
* FNPRM will ask questions on feasibility of all 3
interference-avoiding technologies: sensing/DFS, beacon and geolocation

My reaction is that this sets us further back than Powell's 2004 NPRM.
However, Copps and Adelstein wireless counsels - after meeting - said
that although they pushed hard but failed to get language in the Order
re "rebuttable presumption" or "tentative conclusion," they said Martin
was amenable to adding a 3d par. that is highly positive about
unlicensed in the band -- and they believe Marin is not opposed to
unlicensed in the band (but that he may be buying time with broadcasters
until he leaves next yera to run for office).

They also said GOP staff tell them Sen. DeMint pushed Martin hard for
the licensing/auction language (in line w/ amendment he filed prior to
markup) -- and that he probably agreed before hearing how strongly tech
companies and other commissioners felt about how creating uncertainty
could delay broadband investment and deployment.

FYI, Copps and Adelstein were VERY strong advocating unlicensed
exclusively in their statements at the meeting.  The other 3 did not
mention it.

I strongly urge you to  continue to make passage of Title VI a priority.
Your legislation  is still needed (a) to give clarity so investment can
proceed and (b) so that broadband can be deployed even prior to Feb.
2009 if devices are certified to avoid TV interference.

Michael

Michael Calabrese
Vice President & Director,
Wireless Future Program
New America Foundation
202-986-2700 x327
www.spectrumpolicy.org

-Original Message-
From: FCC NPRM for UHF TV Band Unlicensed Use
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Marcus
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:21 AM
To:
Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] FCC vote

Given timing of recent events, I doubt if the decision has actually been
reduced to paper.  Thus, do not hold your breath while waiting for the
final text.

Video of meeting: http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/mt101206.ram
(Warning: may cause drowsiness.  Do not watch while driving or operating
dangerous equipment.)

Press release:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-267867A1.pdf

Martin Statement:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-267867A2.pdf
Copps Statement:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-267867A3.pdf
Adelstein Statement:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-267867A4.pdf
Tate Statement:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-267867A5.pdf
McDowell Statement:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-267867A6.pdf

Mike Marcus
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Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities

[Rich Comroe]

Isn't it the WiMAX "mobility" opportunity?  Wasn't the original 802.16 specs 
completely rewritten to add the opportunity for mobility?


Rich

- Original Message - 
From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities


This may be a bit silly since I'm only a wireless guy (don't do DSL or 
anything else).  But if you are the telco, why would you want to go 
wireless?  I would think it would be cheaper and more reliable to provide 
internet over the wire you already have strung to the customers house... 
Anyone who knows better care to enlighten me?


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Peter R. wrote:

BellSouth Expands pre-WiMAX Service to 2 More Markets
http://www.convergedigest.com/Wireless/broadbandwirelessarticle.asp?ID=19588

BellSouth announced the expansion of its pre-WiMAX broadband wireless 
into

two new markets by late October -- select parts of Albany, Georgia and
Paducah, Kentucky. Additionally, service will be expanded in the New 
Orleans

area to include New Orleans East. With these expansions, BellSouth will
offer the service in 10 Southeastern markets, including four markets
recently launched in September: North Charleston, S.C.; Melbourne, Fla.;
Greenville, Miss.; and Chattanooga, Tenn.

BellSouth Wireless Broadband Service offers downstream speeds up to 
1.5Mbps

using its licensed WCS 2.3GHz spectrum.
http://www.bellsouth.net/wirelessbb
05-Oct-06



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RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
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Re: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik

[Dylan Oliver]

Meru Networks does ~2ms handoffs between access points through controllers which run Redhat (or some other rpm-based distro; I forget). The access points report the signal level of clients to the controller, which then decides which AP to send traffic for the client through. It's simple, smart and just works .. as long as we're asking Mikrotik to add protocols for fast handoff, this is the way to go!
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[WISPA] test Please disregard

[Mike Delp]

Test

I lost this list for a while

 

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Carl A Jeptha]

If this snow disappears tomorrow I will be loading up the Tranzeo 900 
with a Superpass omni. and I have the other two integrated radios to 
test with, 8 and 11db.


Will let you know.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
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KyWiFi LLC wrote:

Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
it and I'm sure others do too!

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

TGIF.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

  

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Jeromie Reeves]

Was the test with 5, 10 or 20mhz channels? What was your noise floor at 
each test site? How was the mobile end
mounted? What is the beamwidth on those antennas (or model numbers to 
look them up) and what elevation were

each at? Any tilt on the antennas?

Jeromie

Joe Laura wrote:


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

 



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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Joe Laura]

I did not want to start with an omni because Im sure the noise floor is high
downtown. I figured a sector would be better  for initial  testing. Tonight
I am going to aim the sector downtown and do some more testing as well as 3
miles out and further. If all goes ok with the existing noise floor I will
order a omni tomorrow. Im only 90' at this point but final testing will be
on one of my 300' pops. Ill post all the results as I get them. Joe

Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, KyWiFi LLC wrote:
> 
> >Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni 
> >instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range 
> >that is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye 
> >on the PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
> 
> With few exceptions, and omni in 900 is going to be too noisy to be 
> very useful.  There are probably some regions that this is not true 
> for, but I'd guess they will be few and far between.  I have one 
> customer that is using the SR-9 cards in a test scenario in east 
> Texas (on the outskirts of a large city).  He tried for a month to 
> test with a vertical omni...NO luck at all.  He went to a horizontal 
> omni without much improvement, though he could at least connect 
> beyond the 1000 foot range.  With a horizontal sector, he is getting 
> 2-3 miles with good speeds.
> 
> This band is almost impossible to work in without a spectrum 
> analyzer.  There is just too much noise around and it is not impeded 
> by trees (at least not as much as the higher frequencies).  At any 
> rate, ymmv.
> 
> -- 
> Butch Evans
> Network Engineering and Security Consulting
> 573-276-2879
> http://www.butchevans.com/
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> (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html)
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Butch Evans]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, KyWiFi LLC wrote:

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni 
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range 
that is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye 
on the PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).


With few exceptions, and omni in 900 is going to be too noisy to be 
very useful.  There are probably some regions that this is not true 
for, but I'd guess they will be few and far between.  I have one 
customer that is using the SR-9 cards in a test scenario in east 
Texas (on the outskirts of a large city).  He tried for a month to 
test with a vertical omni...NO luck at all.  He went to a horizontal 
omni without much improvement, though he could at least connect 
beyond the 1000 foot range.  With a horizontal sector, he is getting 
2-3 miles with good speeds.


This band is almost impossible to work in without a spectrum 
analyzer.  There is just too much noise around and it is not impeded 
by trees (at least not as much as the higher frequencies).  At any 
rate, ymmv.


--
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Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
http://www.butchevans.com/
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
(http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html)
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Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With DataFlo Acquisition

[Matt Liotta]

Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press release 
it appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap.


-Matt

Peter R. wrote:
Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets 
of DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless 
provider, adding a sixth market to its coverage area.


Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping 
with Covad’s profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA accretive. 
The transaction is expected to close later this month subject to 
customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals.


Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, San 
Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.


Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
Tolbert, Covad’s senior vice president of product solutions planning 
and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in 
response to regulatory uncertainty over the company’s access to 
incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, 
the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network 
strategy.


Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on 
licensed bands – speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also 
enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals 
from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables the 
company to serve clientele with temporary needs.


Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses 
via a direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will 
help Covad to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.




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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[KyWiFi LLC]

Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
it and I'm sure others do too!

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

TGIF.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
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- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

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[WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With DataFlo Acquisition

[Peter R.]

Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets of 
DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, 
adding a sixth market to its coverage area.


Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for 
approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo 
expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping with 
Covad’s profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA accretive. The 
transaction is expected to close later this month subject to customary 
closing conditions and regulatory approvals.


Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, San 
Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary 
NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year.


Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference & Expo today, Claude 
Tolbert, Covad’s senior vice president of product solutions planning and 
priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in response to 
regulatory uncertainty over the company’s access to incumbent broadband 
networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, the DataFlo deal is 
more of a continuation of an overlay network strategy.


Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity 
services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed 
bands – speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables 
Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals from 25 days 
for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables the company to 
serve clientele with temporary needs.


Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses via 
a direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help 
Covad to balance its predominantly wholesale focus.


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RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884 
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

[Joe Laura]

Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

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RE: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

[C. Moses]

We had the same BS
They had the nerve to tell us  basically the same as your letter but in our
case the actually disassociated numbers and business (when someone tried to
call) were receiving "this number is no longer in service" 
OH THIS WENT OVER WELL let me tell ya

And of course NUVIO recites the same rhetoric."we are not experiencing
network issues"

Humph !



Chuck Moses 
HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
16922 Airport Blvd # 17
Mojave CA 93501 
661 824 3431 office
818 406 6818 cell 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

Is our company the only Nuvio Private Label Partner who has reported
this to Nuvio or are there others? See their e-mail below...

From: Mike Roberts
To: KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: October & November Sales

Shannon, 

This is the first if have heard of this.  Nuvio has not been
experiencing any service issues, nor have we had any system wide
problems.  Do you have any specific examples?  Have you, or your
customers, contacted Nuvio technical support?  Do you have any ticket
numbers?

Lets get in touch to find out what is going on. 

Best regards,

Mike Roberts

-Original Message-
From: KyWiFi LLC
To: Mike Roberts
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: October & November Sales

Hi Mike,

Any idea when Nuvio is going resolve the call routing and
voice quality issues which have plagued the Nuvio service
over the past couple weeks? Our subscribers are dropping
like flies. The problem is not with our network as our subs
are switching to other VoIP providers and their service is
working flawlessly.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
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- FREE Activation & Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
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- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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- Original Message - 
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?


It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP 
tables twice a day.
Or it could be they are experiencing outages.
TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day).
XO had a bad outage this week.
Could be a billing issue.
Could be lots of things

- Peter

C. Moses wrote:

>AGAIN !!!
>
>Chuck Moses 
>HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
>16922 Airport Blvd # 17
>Mojave CA 93501 
>661 824 3431 office
>818 406 6818 cell 
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Brad Belton
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?
>
>Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website?  Phones are down too...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brad
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[WISPA] Corrected PACWireless Mounting Hardware

[Scott Reed]

First note referenced incorrect antenna.  The nut I dropped is from the OD9-8 omni.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


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[WISPA] FCC allows limited use of vacant TV airwaves

[Peter R.]

WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Communications 
Commission on Thursday voted to permit certain wireless devices to use 
vacant airwaves between active television channels as long as they do 
not cause interference.


"Allowing low-power wireless devices to operate in the unused portions 
of the television bands could be an efficient and effective use of this 
unused spectrum," FCC Chairman Kevin Martin said at the agency's monthly 
open meeting.


The FCC agreed to permit the use of fixed, low-powered, wireless 
equipment on some unused channel frequencies and said it would conduct 
testing to assess interference and encouraged others to submit their 
findings.


The FCC said it expected to have the laboratory test results on 
interference by July and would set final technical requirements for the 
devices by October 2007.


Marketing of the devices would only be allowed after Feb. 18, 2009 when 
television broadcasters switch to airing their digital signals and 
return their old analog airwaves to the government, the FCC said.


Signals from the airwaves at issue, frequencies below 900, can easily 
penetrate walls, trees and other obstructions unlike the higher frequencies.


http://tinyurl.com/ycdfcb

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[WISPA] BPL & AARl

[Peter R.]

The ARRL this week notified the US District Court of Appeals -- DC 
Circuit that it's appealing certain aspects of the FCC's Part 15 rules 
governing broadband over power line (BPL) systems.


League members are worried the FCC is giving them the shaft when it 
comes to Ham Radio vs BPL, and are going to bring their concerns to court.


http://technocrat.net/d/2006/10/12/9022

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[WISPA] FCC Ponders How To Fill Up 'White Spaces'

[Peter R.]

*FCC Moves on 700MHz Analog Spectrum*
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/78792


FCC Ponders How To Fill Up 'White Spaces'
http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/19766.html

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC ) today 
unanimously took several first-step actions, including the partial grant 
of a Qualcomm petition, to start considering new broadband, video and 
other potential uses of the 700 MHz analog RF bands being freed by the 
U.S. broadcasters' digital-television (DTV) transition in February 2009.


The main items, based on a an existing proceeding, surround the 
possibility of licensed, unlicensed or hybrid arrangements for systems, 
services and personal devices to leverage what are known as "white 
spaces" channels (blank intervals) that are under-utilized by American 
TV broadcasters today. The moves include a First Report and Order 
setting up some interim rules and regulations on white-space usage 
parameters as well as a Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (FNPRM) to 
thrash out technical requirements and other details that might be 
implemented on a permanent basis.


All told, the Order and the FNPRM envision fixed low-power systems and 
services in the 700 MHz band operating at timeframes or at locations 
where TV broadcasters as well as public-safety communications 
authorities, in several instances, aren't using the white-space 
channels. Also to be excluded from consideration in the proposed scheme 
are some specific white-space channels currently used by U.S. 
radio-astronomy and medical-communications activities.


In the regulatory process, the FCC's Office of Engineering and 
Technology wonders whether the low-power offerings could co-habit with 
virtually all the white-space channels. The FCC commissioners and staff 
also would like to permit as wide a variety of personal 
portable-communications devices in the permissible mix as possible, but 
the regulator needs far more input on spectrum sensing, dynamic 
frequency selection plus other non-interference methods and technologies 
before making such a determination.


In the Qualcomm matter, the FCC denied the company's request for a broad 
declaratory ruling that would allow live video streams and clip-casting 
(store and play) across the board in main DTV transition-freed 700 MHz 
spectrum, which will be auctioned off - and a streamlined applications 
process for such applications. Nevertheless, the FCC commissioners and 
staff are enthusiastic about the prospect of such services from Qualcomm 
and potentially many others, so the company's request was, in part, granted.


The so-called partial relief will allow Qualcomm to test and demonstrate 
subscriber video services in order to measure radio field strength 
characteristics, technical quality levels and predictable interference 
with existing 700 MHz broadcaster operations and minimal disruption to 
TV viewers. The decision was limited at this time to Qualcomm but there 
are additional petitions and comments -- as well as the FCC's own 
leanings -- that suggest a wider initiative is possible in anticipation 
of the DTV transition. The regulator regarded its decision as a measured 
approach toward encouraging 700 MHz innovations and a compromise to 
balance its obligations that protect existing TV broadcast licensees and 
the viewers.


The FCC also started a Notice of Inquiry to collection opinions and data 
for its 13th annual report to the U.S. Congress 
 on the status of competition in the 
video-programming- delivery market. This assessment traditionally 
involves ownership, cost and content issues as well as the likes of 
cable-TV, direct broadcast satellite and over-the-air broadcasting, 
etc.; however, such newcomer and rapidly approaching elements as mobile 
wireless video, Internet Protocol TV, broadband penetration, telco entry 
into the business, streamlined video franchising and DTV all are 
expected to be increasing factors in this year's FCC research effort and 
suggestions to federal lawmakers.


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[WISPA] PACWireless Mounting Hardware

[Scott Reed]

I was installing a PACWireless YA9-13 yesterday. Dropped on of the nuts.  The antenna is still on the tower, so I have no way to find out what size I need to get.  Anyone know what size I need for this antenna?

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


www.nwwnet.net 








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Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

[KyWiFi LLC]

Is our company the only Nuvio Private Label Partner who has reported
this to Nuvio or are there others? See their e-mail below...

From: Mike Roberts
To: KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: October & November Sales

Shannon, 

This is the first if have heard of this.  Nuvio has not been
experiencing any service issues, nor have we had any system wide
problems.  Do you have any specific examples?  Have you, or your
customers, contacted Nuvio technical support?  Do you have any ticket
numbers?

Lets get in touch to find out what is going on. 

Best regards,

Mike Roberts

-Original Message-
From: KyWiFi LLC
To: Mike Roberts
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: October & November Sales

Hi Mike,

Any idea when Nuvio is going resolve the call routing and
voice quality issues which have plagued the Nuvio service
over the past couple weeks? Our subscribers are dropping
like flies. The problem is not with our network as our subs
are switching to other VoIP providers and their service is
working flawlessly.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation & Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned & Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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- Original Message - 
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?


It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP 
tables twice a day.
Or it could be they are experiencing outages.
TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day).
XO had a bad outage this week.
Could be a billing issue.
Could be lots of things

- Peter

C. Moses wrote:

>AGAIN !!!
>
>Chuck Moses 
>HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 
>16922 Airport Blvd # 17
>Mojave CA 93501 
>661 824 3431 office
>818 406 6818 cell 
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Brad Belton
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?
>
>Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website?  Phones are down too...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brad
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