Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[Marlon K. Schafer]

It's really new.  Just call them.  They are great to work with.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "J. Vogel" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


> Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
> info about it on their site.
>
> John
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts
>> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
>>
>> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an
>> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
>> remotely
>> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 
>> tower.
>> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 
>> sent
>> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I
>> love the unit.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
>>> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power
>>> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
>>> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
>>> estimate on kw/hr first.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Sprint Wholesale

[Mike Hammett]

Thanks...  and with those NPAs, he isn't far from me.


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint Wholesale

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>> Does anyone have a contact at Sprint wholesale.
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

No it's turned off on all the interfaces. I am beginning to think that this
board has too many wireless cards in it.

Kurt Fankhauser
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gerard Dupont III
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 8:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Are you using Adaptive Noise Immunity? If so, that will cause the cpu to 
skyrocket on even lightly loaded ap's..

Gerard

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic
that
> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP
routes
> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU
usage
> on it is around 40-50%.





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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[eje]

That is what I though. I guess some people are calling the 5250-5350 spectrum 
5.2 which most people afaik dubbed the 5.3 spectrum? 
But I think most reading the list was under the understanding that we where 
talking about 5180MHz. 

/Eje
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-Original Message-
From: "Gino Villarini" 

Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:45:01 
To: WISPA General List
Cc: ; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?


To clarify

5150 - 5250 indoor 200mw eirp
5250 - 5350 outdoor 1w eirp dfs2 FCC certified

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Apr 20, 2009, at 4:51 PM, "Kevin Suitor"  wrote:

> 5.2 is allowed for outdoor - the Redline AN-80i is certified for this
> band.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor
> unit I
> would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections.
>
> Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will  
> never
> be
> able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and  
> detect
> radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at  
> least
> did
> a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures.
>
> Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified
> radar
> detecting device.
>
> / Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not
> certified.
>
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> Gino Villarini wrote:
>> 5180.hmmm!!!
>>
>> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on  
>> an
>
>> illegal channel
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>>
>>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>>
>>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would
>>> cause a lot
>>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of
>>> NAT as was
>>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,  
>>> poorly.
>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you
 have all
 unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and
 they do
 fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and
 all of
 them have the 564 daughterboard in them.

 -Kevin Neal



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

 I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces
 are
 bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the
 traffic that
 passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41
 RIP routes
 might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that
 much
 sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others
 and if
 there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.
 CPU
 usage
 on it is around 40-50%.







 Kurt Fankhauser

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Re: [WISPA] [Board] FW: Tranzeo Cleaning out the Cupboards Sale

[George Rogato]

Yeah, and I recall, when asked why Tranzeo didn't want to help support 
wisps at wispa, they pretty much laughed and said they couldn't see any 
reason to support us.

George

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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Gerard Dupont III]

Are you using Adaptive Noise Immunity? If so, that will cause the cpu to 
skyrocket on even lightly loaded ap's..

Gerard

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
> on it is around 40-50%.




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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Gino Villarini]

To clarify

5150 - 5250 indoor 200mw eirp
5250 - 5350 outdoor 1w eirp dfs2 FCC certified

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Apr 20, 2009, at 4:51 PM, "Kevin Suitor"  wrote:

> 5.2 is allowed for outdoor - the Redline AN-80i is certified for this
> band.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor
> unit I
> would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections.
>
> Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will  
> never
> be
> able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and  
> detect
> radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at  
> least
> did
> a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures.
>
> Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified
> radar
> detecting device.
>
> / Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not
> certified.
>
> * ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> WISPA Vendor Member*
> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
> 
> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/*
> 
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> Gino Villarini wrote:
>> 5180.hmmm!!!
>>
>> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on  
>> an
>
>> illegal channel
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>>
>>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>>
>>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would
>>> cause a lot
>>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of
>>> NAT as was
>>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,  
>>> poorly.
>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you
 have all
 unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and
 they do
 fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and
 all of
 them have the 564 daughterboard in them.

 -Kevin Neal



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

 I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces
 are
 bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the
 traffic that
 passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41
 RIP routes
 might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that
 much
 sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others
 and if
 there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.
 CPU
 usage
 on it is around 40-50%.







 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com

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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Gino Villarini]

It is not, it's indoor use only  with a 200 mw eirp

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Apr 20, 2009, at 4:33 PM, "Dennis Burgess - LTI"  wrote:

> Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not
> certified.
>
> * ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> WISPA Vendor Member*
> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
> 
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> 
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> Gino Villarini wrote:
>> 5180.hmmm!!!
>>
>> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on  
>> an
>> illegal channel
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>>
>>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>>
>>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would
>>> cause a lot
>>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of
>>> NAT as was
>>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,  
>>> poorly.
>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you
 have all
 unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and
 they do
 fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and
 all of
 them have the 564 daughterboard in them.

 -Kevin Neal



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 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

 I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces
 are
 bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the
 traffic that
 passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41
 RIP routes
 might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that
 much
 sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others
 and if
 there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.
 CPU
 usage
 on it is around 40-50%.







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Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?

[os10rules]

I wouldn't be afraid of them, but make sure you stay under the  
recommended max charge rate.

Greg

On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:

> Anyone using Gell Cell batteries for solar or AC-powered backup  
> (using a
> UPS or charger)?
>
> Any tips?  I have an opportunity to buy 4 factory "blemished" group 4d
> (200AH) batteries for $100 ea, but want to make sure they're not going
> to blow up on me : )
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Dennis Burgess - LTI]

This woudl be better, as you have a metal indoor case around it. 

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Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Do you think that having each card on a RB433 while being installed into an
> indoor enclosure with only 1 card per routerboard with foil around the
> indoor enclosure will solve the self-interference? Assuming that the RB433's
> are still stacked onto each other.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:55 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> Plus that many radios that close together is a almost a guaranteed to create
> self interference especially if they are high power radio cards. Those are
> according to MAC Compex radios they do have some highpower but most are not
> so might not really be a problem. 
>
>  
>
> I seen people that put XR5 or SR5 radios for example in the MT's on a single
> board in a metal enclosure that create self interference between the radios
> from what it seems either just to strong side lobes or a internal clock
> frequency leakage between the radios. Putting alu foil between the radios
> helped out but wasn't until one radio was moved to it's own box the problem
> completely was resolved in once instance. 
>
>  
>
> Depending on the powers of the card and it's side lobes you might need
> 60+MHz separation between the center channels in non turbo mode. 
>
>  
>
> In this case here one radio card is on 5745 and the other is on 5785 which
> means 40Mhz between center channels or total of 20MHz between the channels.
> Not very much for the side lobes. If anyone looks at a 802.11a or g signal
> on a SA you will quickly understand why 20MHz might not be enough and why
> you might need at least 40MHz between the "edges" of the signal. 
>
> And on top of this both of these cards are very busy from the look of it
> (one backhaul for the entire system and the other just a very busy AP). 
>
>  
>
> / Eje
>
>  
>
>   _  
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Blair Davis
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
>  
>
> IMHO, too many radios for the cpu speed.
>
> I don't go more than 3 radio for a cpu <1GHz
>
>
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 
>
> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
> on it is around 40-50%.
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Do you think that having each card on a RB433 while being installed into an
indoor enclosure with only 1 card per routerboard with foil around the
indoor enclosure will solve the self-interference? Assuming that the RB433's
are still stacked onto each other.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:55 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Plus that many radios that close together is a almost a guaranteed to create
self interference especially if they are high power radio cards. Those are
according to MAC Compex radios they do have some highpower but most are not
so might not really be a problem. 

 

I seen people that put XR5 or SR5 radios for example in the MT's on a single
board in a metal enclosure that create self interference between the radios
from what it seems either just to strong side lobes or a internal clock
frequency leakage between the radios. Putting alu foil between the radios
helped out but wasn't until one radio was moved to it's own box the problem
completely was resolved in once instance. 

 

Depending on the powers of the card and it's side lobes you might need
60+MHz separation between the center channels in non turbo mode. 

 

In this case here one radio card is on 5745 and the other is on 5785 which
means 40Mhz between center channels or total of 20MHz between the channels.
Not very much for the side lobes. If anyone looks at a 802.11a or g signal
on a SA you will quickly understand why 20MHz might not be enough and why
you might need at least 40MHz between the "edges" of the signal. 

And on top of this both of these cards are very busy from the look of it
(one backhaul for the entire system and the other just a very busy AP). 

 

/ Eje

 

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

 

IMHO, too many radios for the cpu speed.

I don't go more than 3 radio for a cpu <1GHz





Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 

I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
on it is around 40-50%.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

 

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Re: [WISPA] Sprint Wholesale

[Matt Liotta]

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On Apr 20, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> Does anyone have a contact at Sprint wholesale.
>
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Scott Carullo]

5180 in my list says INDOOR ONLY

If that is incorrect somebody please correct me and point me to the 
appropriate documentation

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
> From: "Dennis Burgess - LTI" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:31 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
> 
> What I was thinking too.  5180 is a allowed freq, but should be FCC 
> certified and has to have DFS2. 
> 
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> > 5.2 is allowed for outdoor - the Redline AN-80i is certified for this
> > band.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
> > Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
> >
> > And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor
> > unit I
> > would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. 
> >
> > Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will 
never
> > be
> > able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and 
detect
> > radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at 
least
> > did
> > a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. 
> >
> > Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified
> > radar
> > detecting device. 
> >
> > / Eje
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
> > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
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> > Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not 
> > certified. 
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> >> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on 
an
> >> 
> >
> >   
> >> illegal channel
> >>
> >> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >> 
> >>> Gino - Top right corner.
> >>>
> >>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
> >>>
> >>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
> >>> cause a lot
> >>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
> >>> NAT as was
> >>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
> >>>
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poorly.
> >>> --- Henry Spencer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>   
>  Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enab

Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Jack Unger]

Probably any radio designed to work on 5250-5350 and 5470-5725 and that 
allowed you access via management system statistics to the field showing 
"radar events" (or similar).

Scott Carullo wrote:
> Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through 
> channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That 
> would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to 
> know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
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>  Original Message 
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>> From: "Blair Davis" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?
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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Scott Carullo]

I have no interest in logging or detecting anything other than radar 
signatures exactly as dfs radio is built to do  just want to be able to 
do it is "scan" mode or non-tx mode.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

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> From: "Eje Gustafsson" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:01 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
> 
> The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote 
monitoring
> both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up in a small linux 
box
> that you leave on site and just let it log and you can view the data
> remotely from your Windows machine over the network or go and pickup the
> unit and view the log data that way. So will do just what you want. 
> Also the frequency resolution the Wi-Spy devices offer is better then 
what I
> normally set my real SA on when I check out radio cards or check out
> signals. Very capable devices IMO there is no reason why a WISP 
shouldn't
> have at least one of these in their toolbox. I can understand why many 
do
> not want to buy a expensive spectrum analyzer for $3k+ for the simpler 
ones
> but in all reality be able to track down signal sources and interference 
as
> a WISP is a must. I know some people are using like Canopy SM's to do 
this
> but they interface is slow and clunky and don't log any data. 
> 
> 
> / Eje Gustafsson
> WISP-Router, Inc.
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Adam Goodman
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
> 
> I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
> Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
> can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer
> listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced
> logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
> dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
>  wrote:
> >
> > Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through
> > channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  
That
> > would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest 
to
> > know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
> >
> > Scott Carullo
> > Brevard Wireless
> > 321-205-1100 x102
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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Patrick Shoemaker]

I had one of those spectran units in 2007 (HF-6080 rev 3 model) and 
found it to be grossly inaccurate and almost useless for even common 
WISP frequencies. YMMV, and contact me directly if you want details.

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Dennis Burgess - LTI wrote:
> You could also use http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp.  This you can 
> plug into a PC and log without issues as well.  There is also some 
> recording in the hand held too.  Advantage of this is that it does 10mhz 
> to 6GHz .  At least its less than 3k!
> 
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>> The WiSPY picks up radar signals?
>>
>> Eje Gustafsson wrote:
>>   
>>> The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote monitoring
>>> both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up in a small linux box
>>> that you leave on site and just let it log and you can view the data
>>> remotely from your Windows machine over the network or go and pickup the
>>> unit and view the log data that way. So will do just what you want. 
>>> Also the frequency resolution the Wi-Spy devices offer is better then what I
>>> normally set my real SA on when I check out radio cards or check out
>>> signals. Very capable devices IMO there is no reason why a WISP shouldn't
>>> have at least one of these in their toolbox. I can understand why many do
>>> not want to buy a expensive spectrum analyzer for $3k+ for the simpler ones
>>> but in all reality be able to track down signal sources and interference as
>>> a WISP is a must. I know some people are using like Canopy SM's to do this
>>> but they interface is slow and clunky and don't log any data. 
>>>
>>>
>>> / Eje Gustafsson
>>> WISP-Router, Inc.
>>> http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiTools&Bc=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Adam Goodman
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM
>>> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>>
>>> I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
>>> Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
>>> can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer
>>> listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced
>>> logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
>>> dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through
 channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That
 would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to
 know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[lakeland]

My experience with several manufacturers radios is that the whole DFS thing is 
a crap shoot. 

I have had radios take DFS hits and block out those channels then replacement 
with a different mfgr radio and it works fine but have that replacement radio 
take hits but even another radio work fine.

Personally I think many radios false on noise instead of DFS. 

The only radios I have seen not take DFS hits are Exalts.

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:37:57 
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Subject: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question



Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through 
channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That 
would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to 
know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Dennis Burgess - LTI]

What I was thinking too.  5180 is a allowed freq, but should be FCC 
certified and has to have DFS2. 

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Kevin Suitor wrote:
> 5.2 is allowed for outdoor - the Redline AN-80i is certified for this
> band.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor
> unit I
> would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. 
>
> Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never
> be
> able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect
> radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least
> did
> a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. 
>
> Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified
> radar
> detecting device. 
>
> / Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not 
> certified. 
>
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> Gino Villarini wrote:
>   
>> 5180.hmmm!!!
>>
>> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an
>> 
>
>   
>> illegal channel
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
>>  wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>>
>>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>>
>>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
>>> cause a lot
>>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
>>> NAT as was
>>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
 Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you  
 have all
 unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and  
 they do
 fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and  
 all of
 them have the 564 daughterboard in them.

 -Kevin Neal



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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

 I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces  
 are
 br

[WISPA] Sprint Wholesale

[Mike Hammett]

Does anyone have a contact at Sprint wholesale.


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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Dennis Burgess - LTI]

You could also use http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp.  This you can 
plug into a PC and log without issues as well.  There is also some 
recording in the hand held too.  Advantage of this is that it does 10mhz 
to 6GHz .  At least its less than 3k!

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Charles Wyble wrote:
> The WiSPY picks up radar signals?
>
> Eje Gustafsson wrote:
>   
>> The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote monitoring
>> both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up in a small linux box
>> that you leave on site and just let it log and you can view the data
>> remotely from your Windows machine over the network or go and pickup the
>> unit and view the log data that way. So will do just what you want. 
>> Also the frequency resolution the Wi-Spy devices offer is better then what I
>> normally set my real SA on when I check out radio cards or check out
>> signals. Very capable devices IMO there is no reason why a WISP shouldn't
>> have at least one of these in their toolbox. I can understand why many do
>> not want to buy a expensive spectrum analyzer for $3k+ for the simpler ones
>> but in all reality be able to track down signal sources and interference as
>> a WISP is a must. I know some people are using like Canopy SM's to do this
>> but they interface is slow and clunky and don't log any data. 
>>
>>
>> / Eje Gustafsson
>> WISP-Router, Inc.
>> http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiTools&Bc=
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Adam Goodman
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM
>> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>
>> I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
>> Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
>> can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer
>> listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced
>> logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
>> dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through
>>> channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That
>>> would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to
>>> know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
>>>
>>> Scott Carullo
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>>   
 From: "Blair Davis" 
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM
 To: "WISPA General List" 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?


 
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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Charles Wyble]

The WiSPY picks up radar signals?

Eje Gustafsson wrote:
> The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote monitoring
> both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up in a small linux box
> that you leave on site and just let it log and you can view the data
> remotely from your Windows machine over the network or go and pickup the
> unit and view the log data that way. So will do just what you want. 
> Also the frequency resolution the Wi-Spy devices offer is better then what I
> normally set my real SA on when I check out radio cards or check out
> signals. Very capable devices IMO there is no reason why a WISP shouldn't
> have at least one of these in their toolbox. I can understand why many do
> not want to buy a expensive spectrum analyzer for $3k+ for the simpler ones
> but in all reality be able to track down signal sources and interference as
> a WISP is a must. I know some people are using like Canopy SM's to do this
> but they interface is slow and clunky and don't log any data. 
> 
> 
> / Eje Gustafsson
> WISP-Router, Inc.
> http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiTools&Bc=
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Adam Goodman
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
> 
> I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
> Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
> can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer
> listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced
> logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
> dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
>  wrote:
>> Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through
>> channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That
>> would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to
>> know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>
>>  Original Message 
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>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Tranzeo has DFS certified radio's in their TR-5a series correct me if I'm
wrong but I heard they spent big dollars on getting that line "certified"
with the DFS.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor unit I
would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. 

Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never be
able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect
radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least did
a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. 

Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified radar
detecting device. 

/ Eje

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Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not 
certified. 

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Gino Villarini wrote:
> 5180.hmmm!!!
>
> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an  
> illegal channel
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
>  wrote:
>
>   
>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>
>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>
>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
>> cause a lot
>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
>> NAT as was
>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you  
>>> have all
>>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and  
>>> they do
>>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and  
>>> all of
>>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>>>
>>> -Kevin Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>>>
>>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces  
>>> are
>>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the  
>>> traffic that
>>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41  
>>> RIP routes
>>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that  
>>> much
>>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others  
>>> and if
>>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.  
>>> CPU
>>> usage
>>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>






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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Eje Gustafsson]

The Wi-SPY devices are fairly affordable. And they support remote monitoring
both with Windows and Linux. So you could set one up in a small linux box
that you leave on site and just let it log and you can view the data
remotely from your Windows machine over the network or go and pickup the
unit and view the log data that way. So will do just what you want. 
Also the frequency resolution the Wi-Spy devices offer is better then what I
normally set my real SA on when I check out radio cards or check out
signals. Very capable devices IMO there is no reason why a WISP shouldn't
have at least one of these in their toolbox. I can understand why many do
not want to buy a expensive spectrum analyzer for $3k+ for the simpler ones
but in all reality be able to track down signal sources and interference as
a WISP is a must. I know some people are using like Canopy SM's to do this
but they interface is slow and clunky and don't log any data. 


/ Eje Gustafsson
WISP-Router, Inc.
http://store.wisp-router.com/items.asp?Cc=WiFiTools&Bc=



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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer
listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced
logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.




On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
 wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through
> channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That
> would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to
> know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
>  Original Message 
>> From: "Blair Davis" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

It bounces from 30% to 50% pretty regular. 

Nothing is on NAT.
Connection tracking is disabled.



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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Gino - Top right corner.

Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?

I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would cause a lot
of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of NAT as was
mentioned would be the first place I'd look.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal  wrote:

> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you have all
> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and they do
> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of
> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>
> -Kevin Neal
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic
that
> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP
routes
> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU
> usage
> on it is around 40-50%.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
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Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Adam Goodman]

I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum analyzer
listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably priced
logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.




On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
 wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through
> channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That
> would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to
> know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
>  Original Message 
>> From: "Blair Davis" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kevin Suitor]

5.2 is allowed for outdoor - the Redline AN-80i is certified for this
band.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor
unit I
would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. 

Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never
be
able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect
radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least
did
a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. 

Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified
radar
detecting device. 

/ Eje

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Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not 
certified. 

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Gino Villarini wrote:
> 5180.hmmm!!!
>
> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an

> illegal channel
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
>  wrote:
>
>   
>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>
>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>
>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
>> cause a lot
>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
>> NAT as was
>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you  
>>> have all
>>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and  
>>> they do
>>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and  
>>> all of
>>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>>>
>>> -Kevin Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>>>
>>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces  
>>> are
>>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the  
>>> traffic that
>>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41  
>>> RIP routes
>>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that  
>>> much
>>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others  
>>> and if
>>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.  
>>> CPU
>>> usage
>>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>






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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Eje Gustafsson]

And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor unit I
would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. 

Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never be
able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect
radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least did
a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. 

Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified radar
detecting device. 

/ Eje

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Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not 
certified. 

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Gino Villarini wrote:
> 5180.hmmm!!!
>
> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an  
> illegal channel
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
>  wrote:
>
>   
>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>
>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>
>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
>> cause a lot
>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
>> NAT as was
>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you  
>>> have all
>>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and  
>>> they do
>>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and  
>>> all of
>>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>>>
>>> -Kevin Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>>>
>>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces  
>>> are
>>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the  
>>> traffic that
>>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41  
>>> RIP routes
>>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that  
>>> much
>>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others  
>>> and if
>>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.  
>>> CPU
>>> usage
>>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>





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[WISPA] DFS Radar Question

[Scott Carullo]

Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan through 
channels and report back on radar signals heard on what frequencies?  That 
would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of interest to 
know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...

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Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?

[Blair Davis]

For locations subject to freezing, AGM can't be beat.

For locations that get hot and that are accessible, I prefer wet cells

Scott Carullo wrote:

  I prefer AGM batteries over gell - we like Trojan brand

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Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?

[Randy Cosby]

Me too.. .but can you get them for $100 @ 200AH? :)

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Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?

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I prefer AGM batteries over gell - we like Trojan brand

Scott Carullo
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Dennis Burgess - LTI]

Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not 
certified. 

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Gino Villarini wrote:
> 5180.hmmm!!!
>
> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an  
> illegal channel
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
>  wrote:
>
>   
>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>
>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>
>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
>> cause a lot
>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
>> NAT as was
>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you  
>>> have all
>>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and  
>>> they do
>>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and  
>>> all of
>>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>>>
>>> -Kevin Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>>>
>>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces  
>>> are
>>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the  
>>> traffic that
>>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41  
>>> RIP routes
>>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that  
>>> much
>>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others  
>>> and if
>>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.  
>>> CPU
>>> usage
>>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?

[Blair Davis]

Don't know where you are, but gel cells are not a good idea in very hot
or cold environments.

Randy Cosby wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Gino Villarini]

5180.hmmm!!!

Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an  
illegal channel

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
 wrote:

> Gino - Top right corner.
>
> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>
> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would  
> cause a lot
> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of  
> NAT as was
> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>
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> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal   
> wrote:
>
>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you  
>> have all
>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and  
>> they do
>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and  
>> all of
>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>>
>> -Kevin Neal
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>>
>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces  
>> are
>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the  
>> traffic that
>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41  
>> RIP routes
>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that  
>> much
>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others  
>> and if
>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.  
>> CPU
>> usage
>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Scott Reed]

Unless it has run out of memory, that should be true.

Dennis Burgess - LTI wrote:
> unltil it his 100% and stays there, its not overloaded hahahaha .
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>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
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>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
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>> Kurt Fankhauser
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[WISPA] Gell Cell?

[Randy Cosby]

Anyone using Gell Cell batteries for solar or AC-powered backup (using a 
UPS or charger)?

Any tips?  I have an opportunity to buy 4 factory "blemished" group 4d 
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?

[D. Ryan Spott]

I have not had an opportunity to try to do this yet but this person has:

>

He is short on details.

ryan

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> I have verified that they do not.
>
> Matt Larsen
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> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
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>> Has anyone verified if the Z-com 900mhz card works with the Tranzeo? 
>> http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=11%2D401&eq=&Tp=
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:35 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
>>
>> Unfortunately, that will not work.   I have been trying to get Tranzeos 
>> to work with StarOS (and Mikrotik) for a while and have not been able to 
>> make it happen.   I have even taken the Tranzeos apart and put the cards 
>> into the other radios and did not get it to work.
>>
>> I did take the cards out of a couple of dead Tranzeo 900 radios (blown 
>> ethernet port), put one in a StarOS AP, and the second into a WAR1 and 
>> put it back in the Tranzeo case and that worked out pretty well.If 
>> either StarOS or Mikrotik would come up with a way to tune into the 
>> correct center frequency, I think you could get them to work, but I have 
>> not had any luck so far. 
>>
>> Next step is I'm trying out one of the new EL900 APs from Tranzeo to see 
>> if it will do what I want to do.   If I could just get them to do radius 
>> authentication, I would be happy.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> They use different center frequencies so no, they do not interoperate.
>>> 
>>>   
>> However, I believe you can rip a card (and its amp/converter? Out of a
>> Tranzeo and put it into 'tik.
>>   
>> 
>>> ryan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:03 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List' 
>>> Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo 900mhz ?
>>>
>>> Does the Tranzeo Slim-line 900mhz series only work with a Tranzeo AP? Or
>>> 
>>>   
>> can
>>   
>> 
>>> I use a XR9 in Mikrotik?
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

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unltil it his 100% and stays there, its not overloaded hahahaha .

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Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
> on it is around 40-50%.
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Josh Luthman]

Gino - Top right corner.

Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?

I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would cause a lot
of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of NAT as was
mentioned would be the first place I'd look.

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal  wrote:

> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you have all
> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and they do
> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of
> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>
> -Kevin Neal
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU
> usage
> on it is around 40-50%.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kevin Neal]

Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you have all
unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and they do
fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of
them have the 564 daughterboard in them.

-Kevin Neal



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
on it is around 40-50%.

 

 

 

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WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Gino Villarini]

On what freqs you have all those wireless cards? 


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Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:50 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic
that passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41
RIP routes might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't
that much sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from
others and if there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let
me know. CPU usage on it is around 40-50%.

 

 

 

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WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com

 

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

[Gary Garrett]

I had insurance from Hartford once.
Had a bad couple of months and paid the premium late.
They canceled me and said they do not insure ISP's or for that matter an 
Internet anything company.
I tried again a year later and they said the same thing No Internet 
company. Many on this list have Hartford Ins. so that is just a plain 
lie, they do not want my business and don't have the hair to say so.
The point is you can pay the premiums for years and still get dumped or 
just plain refused renewal. Insurance is pretty much Government mandated 
Organized Crime.
With the modern Business world Lawyers and Insurance are a symbiotic 
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Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

[chris cooper]

We use Hartford.  They've been great.  Decent deductible, they pay
claims without complaint, no premium increase.

Chris
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Scottie Arnett wrote:
> They provide insurance at a rate for what you want covered. You pay
less for a high deductable. In both cases, they will try everything they
can to get out of paying you, and when they finally have to pay, they
cancel the policy. So what was the use in getting the policy to begin
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Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[D. Ryan Spott]

I use these:  I buy 
them from Graybar in boxes of 100.

I figure this: my average run is around 30-150 feet.

Ethernet is good for 300+/- feet @ 100/1000bt . I figure that if I mess 
up the twisted pair just a little bit in that 100 foot long cable I 
won't see a huge impact in my 4mb-10mb service and if I do, then I bet 
wrong and I am out time and some minor materials.

All of the cable I pull is outdoor gel filled cable so everything is 
pretty aqua-phobic once I put electrical tape over the splice. I also 
offer the home owner the opportunity to put the cable behind a 2x4 
screwed to the wall over the cable or to put it through some conduit to 
keep the dog off the cable.

ryan

Chuck Profito wrote:
> It is usually chewed low, so we pull new cat 5 inside, the raise or cut the
> upper piece to under the eve, then use a small black plastic project box,
> $1.00, and a keystone or modular jack.  That way, if they can't teach their
> dog manners, we have a easy spot to redo it. We don't use couplers at all,
> although in the project box it should also work.  And we do charge for this.
>  
>  
> Chuck Profito
> 209-988-7388
> CV-ACCESS, INC
>   cprof...@cv-access.com 
> Providing High Speed Broadband 
> to Rural Central California
>  
>  
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
>  
> I do new wire from radio to just inside the house, and splice.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 
> I've used cat5 couplers before and always end of having to go back and run a
> new wire so that's what I do from now. Also get to charge the customer more
> with the new wire.
>  
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
>  
> splice?  We NEVER splice the cable.  It's always new.
> marlon
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: "D. Ryan Spott"   
> To: "WISPA General List"   
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
>  
>  
>   
> Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other
> breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time.
>  
> ryan
>  
>  
> D. Ryan Spott
> rsp...@cspott.com
>  
>  
>  
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>  
> 
> I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago.
> Replaced
> the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it.
> Then just
> last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed
> through the
> new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I
> replaced
> the entire cable again and charged them $50.
>  
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
>  
> We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or
> cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna
> to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it,
> etc.).
>  
> Travis
> Microserv
>  
> my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
>   
> I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and
> business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp
> subscriber equipment.
>  
> We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially
> when
> we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a
> whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch
> services,
> etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but
> when
> they go bad, they're expensive to replace.
>  
> Like to hear how others are doing it.
>  
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Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

[Gary Garrett]

The Burlington Northern Railroad is self Insured.
You save millions of $ on insurance premiums but you know for sure 
someday there will be a train wreck and people will die.
S0... You put the money you would have spent on insurance in the 
bank and add to it monthly just like paying for insurance. Over time you 
have a huge and growing fund that you can borrow from for expansion etc.
You have eliminated the banks interest on capital and in effect you gain 
the interest. Plus you sleep well at night knowing if something happens 
you can cover it.

The problem is you better hope the $$ grows enough before that big 
lightning storm we all know is coming..



Scottie Arnett wrote:
> They provide insurance at a rate for what you want covered. You pay less for 
> a high deductable. In both cases, they will try everything they can to get 
> out of paying you, and when they finally have to pay, they cancel the policy. 
> So what was the use in getting the policy to begin with?
> 




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Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[Gary Garrett]

I think I would put a lightning protector at that point and call it good.



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> I do new wire from radio to just inside the house, and splice.
> 



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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[Scott Carullo]

No - sorry missed that part of the conversation just had one sitting here

APC PDUs have the ability to see total power consumption but not per port - 
not the ones I have any way. They have the pther feature You asked for as 
well.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
> From: "J. Vogel" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:45 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
> 
> Does it have ethernet, remote monitoring, or power-cycle capability?
> 
> John
> 
> Scott Carullo wrote:
> > P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have
> >
> > Scott Carullo
> > Brevard Wireless
> > 321-205-1100 x102
> >
> >  Original Message 
> >   
> >> From: "J. Vogel" 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM
> >> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
> >>
> >> Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find 
any
> >> info about it on their site.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> >> 
> >>> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 
watts 
> >>>   
> >
> >   
> >>> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
> >>>
> >>> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has 
an 
> >>>   
> >
> >   
> >>> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
> >>>   
> > remotely 
> >   
> >>> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 

> >>>   
> > tower. 
> >   
> >>> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 

> >>>   
> > sent 
> >   
> >>> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old 
fashioned?) 
> >>>   
> > I 
> >   
> >>> love the unit.
> >>> marlon
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - 
> >>> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
> >>> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
> >>> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will 
>  
> > use.
> >   
>  How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp 
>  
> > power
> >   
>  supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
>  I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
>  estimate on kw/hr first.
> 
>  Brian
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

[Scottie Arnett]

They provide insurance at a rate for what you want covered. You pay less for a 
high deductable. In both cases, they will try everything they can to get out of 
paying you, and when they finally have to pay, they cancel the policy. So what 
was the use in getting the policy to begin with?

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:14:31 -0400

>Yeah but most Wisps operators are some of the financially worst off people I
>have ever met. I agree on not making a bunch of small claims, same holds
>true with your automobile policy. I remember Mac said once that he actually
>got APC to pay out on their equipment protection guarantee and he got
>something like $15k from it and he said even he couldn't believe it.
>
>Kurt Fankhauser
>WAVELINC
>P.O. Box 126
>Bucyrus, OH 44820
>419-562-6405
>www.wavelinc.com
> 
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of John Scrivner
>Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:23 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment
>
>I carry a very high deductible (like $10K per incident). I keep
>insurance strictly for liability coverage and for catastrophic
>coverage like if our office burns down or a tornado comes through and
>wipes everything out. My rates are low and I do not plan to ever make
>a claim. Insurance companies are in business to make money like
>everyone else. If you use it on small claims then you eat away their
>profit and they have little choice but to consider you as a higher
>risk. Cable TV companies and power companies do not make frequent
>small claims. They take the same approach as I outline above I think.
>At a minimum you MUST have liability coverage in order to locate on
>leased space on towers, poles, etc. There is value in them covering
>you for up to a million or two in liability even if a claim is never
>made. I hope that WISPs think hard about how they interact with
>insurance companies and how we as an industry are perceived by our
>carriers. If WISPs as an industry are seen as companies who make
>frequent claims for any loss then I am guessing this will become a
>factor in how all WISPs are rated for insurance. Do yourselves a favor
>and plan NOT to make claims on insurance. Buy extra gear for your
>towers for replacements and budget a percentage of your gear as having
>to be replaced each year for upgrades, loss, etc. It is cheaper to
>self-insure your gear than to think you can have your insurance carry
>you for every little claim for lightening damage and such.
>Scriv
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Scottie Arnett 
>wrote:
>> Typical "legal organized crime" insurance companies. As long as you are
>paying them and not filing a claim, everything is happy go lucky. File one
>claim and they want to jack your rates through the roof or cancel your
>policy. How do they get away with this stuff? I have 1st hand experience
>with it. I can't believe all are like that, but all I have ever dealt with
>are. If anyone knows of a "professional" insurance company that provides
>what they say without the "crap mentioned above", please let me know.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:13:02 -0400
>>
>>>What I have heard from other WISPs is that once you do a big claim they
>>>cancel your policy.  I've heard it from multiple angels from multiple
>>>companies so I've always believed it to be true.
>>>
>>>Josh Luthman
>>>Office: 937-552-2340
>>>Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>1100 Wayne St
>>>Suite 1337
>>>Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>>>--- Henry Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Charles Wyble
>wrote:
>>>
 Why would one find another insurer?

 I do believe they can do a search on claims you have filed and charge
 accordingly. So changing insurers most likely won't help.



 Josh Luthman wrote:
 > What we do and what I've been suggested is hold onto an insurance
>policy
 and
 > use it when you really have to.  If an AP or two and some CPEs go bad,
 don't
 > claim it as it your rates will rise or the policy may be canceled.
 >
 > If you lost an entire tower and hundreds of thousands of dollars (or
 > whatever size completely kicks your bucket) then claim it and prepare
>to
 > find another insurer.
 >
 > Josh Luthman
 > Office: 937-552-2340
 > Direct: 937-552-2343
 > 1100 Wayne St
 > Suite 1337
 > Troy, OH 45373
 >
 > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
 > --- Henry Spencer
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Alan Long 
 wrote:
 >
 >> All gear.
 >>
 >> 
 >>

[WISPA] New Subject! Equipment Insurance

[webbillys]

Is anyone offering customer insurance on the wireless equipment? It was on
this list last year, but the link I had doesn't work anymore. Wondering if
I could borrow from your files.

Thanks Jean
www.surfmore.net



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Re: [WISPA] FW: Tranzeo Cleaning out the Cupboards Sale

[Jerry Richardson]

No problem. I'm not the vendor, nor do I use Tranzeo. 

Thought I was doing Tranzeo users a favor by forwarding the email as these 
radios will not be available any other way than through Tranzeo directly.

__ 
Jerry Richardson 
airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of John Scrivner
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA Board Members List; sa...@tranzeo.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: Tranzeo Cleaning out the Cupboards Sale

As far as I am concerned this is spam. Tranzeo is NOT a paid vendor member of 
WISPA and as such gets no free ads here. Even if they were a member this is not 
how approved ads are sent to our list membership.
Please refrain from sending out vendor ads to our list without board approval.
Thank you,
John Scrivner



On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson  
wrote:
> Dear Valued Customer,
>
>
>
> Tranzeo went through the cupboards and did some spring cleaning. We 
> have the following surplus stock of NEW radios and are offering them 
> at an incredible one time Savings to you DIRECT from our factory. 
> (These radios will not be offered through the distributor Channel).
>
> Item
>
> One-Time Price
>
> # Available
>
> TR-900-N
>
>  $            199.00
>
>             84
>
> TR-6000
>
>  $            106.00
>
>             60
>
> TR-5a-N
>
>  $            112.00
>
>            43
>
> TR-5800
>
>  $            125.00
>
>             42
>
> TR-CPQ-N
>
>  $             98.00
>
>             40
>
> TR-SL5-N
>
>  $            109.00
>
>            240
>
> TR-6619
>
>  $            165.00
>
>            124
>
> TR-CPE90-15
>
>  $             79.00
>
>             21
>
> TR-5amp-N
>
>  $            300.00
>
>             18
>
> TR-5amp-24
>
>  $            300.00
>
>             14
>
> TR-SL5-16
>
>  $            109.00
>
>             18
>
> TR-5amp-24
>
>  $            300.00
>
>             10
>
> TR-6500
>
>  $            300.00
>
>               9
>
> TR-5amp-N
>
>  $            300.00
>
>             15
>
> TR-5a-24
>
>  $            154.00
>
>               6
>
> TR-5plus-20
>
>  $            192.00
>
>             70
>
> TR-CPQ-N
>
>  $             98.00
>
>               3
>
> EL-500ag / TR-24H-120-13
>
>  $            250.00
>
>            113
>
> TR-6600
>
>  $            115.00
>
>               1
>
>
>
> To Order Now call Tranzeo direct or e-mail us at sa...@tranzeo.com.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Tranzeo Team
>
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Re: [WISPA] FW: Tranzeo Cleaning out the Cupboards Sale

[John Scrivner]

As far as I am concerned this is spam. Tranzeo is NOT a paid vendor
member of WISPA and as such gets no free ads here. Even if they were a
member this is not how approved ads are sent to our list membership.
Please refrain from sending out vendor ads to our list without board
approval.
Thank you,
John Scrivner



On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson
 wrote:
> Dear Valued Customer,
>
>
>
> Tranzeo went through the cupboards and did some spring cleaning. We have
> the following surplus stock of NEW radios and are offering them at an
> incredible one time Savings to you DIRECT from our factory. (These
> radios will not be offered through the distributor Channel).
>
> Item
>
> One-Time Price
>
> # Available
>
> TR-900-N
>
>  $            199.00
>
>             84
>
> TR-6000
>
>  $            106.00
>
>             60
>
> TR-5a-N
>
>  $            112.00
>
>            43
>
> TR-5800
>
>  $            125.00
>
>             42
>
> TR-CPQ-N
>
>  $             98.00
>
>             40
>
> TR-SL5-N
>
>  $            109.00
>
>            240
>
> TR-6619
>
>  $            165.00
>
>            124
>
> TR-CPE90-15
>
>  $             79.00
>
>             21
>
> TR-5amp-N
>
>  $            300.00
>
>             18
>
> TR-5amp-24
>
>  $            300.00
>
>             14
>
> TR-SL5-16
>
>  $            109.00
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>             18
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> TR-5amp-24
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>  $            300.00
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>             10
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> TR-6500
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>  $            300.00
>
>               9
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>             15
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>
>               6
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> TR-5plus-20
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>  $            192.00
>
>             70
>
> TR-CPQ-N
>
>  $             98.00
>
>               3
>
> EL-500ag / TR-24H-120-13
>
>  $            250.00
>
>            113
>
> TR-6600
>
>  $            115.00
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>               1
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Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[Chuck Profito]

It is usually chewed low, so we pull new cat 5 inside, the raise or cut the
upper piece to under the eve, then use a small black plastic project box,
$1.00, and a keystone or modular jack.  That way, if they can't teach their
dog manners, we have a easy spot to redo it. We don't use couplers at all,
although in the project box it should also work.  And we do charge for this.
 
 
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to Rural Central California
 
 
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
 
I do new wire from radio to just inside the house, and splice.

Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 
I've used cat5 couplers before and always end of having to go back and run a
new wire so that's what I do from now. Also get to charge the customer more
with the new wire.
 
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
 
splice?  We NEVER splice the cable.  It's always new.
marlon
 
- Original Message - 
From: "D. Ryan Spott"   
To: "WISPA General List"   
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
 
 
  
Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other
breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time.
 
ryan
 
 
D. Ryan Spott
rsp...@cspott.com
 
 
 
On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 

I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago.
Replaced
the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it.
Then just
last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed
through the
new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I
replaced
the entire cable again and charged them $50.
 
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
 
We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or
cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna
to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it,
etc.).
 
Travis
Microserv
 
my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
  
I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and
business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp
subscriber equipment.
 
We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially
when
we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a
whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch
services,
etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but
when
they go bad, they're expensive to replace.
 
Like to hear how others are doing it.
 
Thanks,
 
 

 
 
  

  

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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[J. Vogel]

Marlon referenced a new kill-a-watt that has an ethernet port, remote
monitoring, and power-cycling capability. I can't find any of those
features mentioned on any of the models on the kill-a-watt site, or on
the thinkgeek.com link you provided. Perhaps I missed it. Thanks for the
link though. :)

John

Vickie Edwards wrote:
> ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another
> meter-type gadget:
>
> http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=kill+a+watt&x=0&y=0
>
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of J. Vogel
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>
> Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
> info about it on their site.
>
> John
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>   
>> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20
>> 
> watts 
>   
>> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
>>
>> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an
>> 
>
>   
>> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to
>> 
> remotely 
>   
>> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a
>> 
> tower. 
>   
>> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be
>> 
> sent 
>   
>> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?)
>> 
> I 
>   
>> love the unit.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will
>>>   
> use.
>   
>>> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp
>>>   
> power
>   
>>> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
>>> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
>>> estimate on kw/hr first.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[J. Vogel]

Does it have ethernet, remote monitoring, or power-cycle capability?

John

Scott Carullo wrote:
> P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
>  Original Message 
>   
>> From: "J. Vogel" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>>
>> Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
>> info about it on their site.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> 
>>> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 
>>>   
>
>   
>>> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
>>>
>>> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 
>>>   
>
>   
>>> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
>>>   
> remotely 
>   
>>> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 
>>>   
> tower. 
>   
>>> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 
>>>   
> sent 
>   
>>> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) 
>>>   
> I 
>   
>>> love the unit.
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will 
 
> use.
>   
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp 
 
> power
>   
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian



 
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[WISPA] FW: Tranzeo Cleaning out the Cupboards Sale

[Jerry Richardson]

Dear Valued Customer,

 

Tranzeo went through the cupboards and did some spring cleaning. We have
the following surplus stock of NEW radios and are offering them at an
incredible one time Savings to you DIRECT from our factory. (These
radios will not be offered through the distributor Channel). 

Item

One-Time Price

# Available

TR-900-N

 $199.00 

 84 

TR-6000

 $106.00 

 60 

TR-5a-N

 $112.00 

43 

TR-5800

 $125.00 

 42 

TR-CPQ-N

 $ 98.00 

 40 

TR-SL5-N

 $109.00 

240 

TR-6619

 $165.00 

124 

TR-CPE90-15

 $ 79.00 

 21 

TR-5amp-N

 $300.00 

 18 

TR-5amp-24

 $300.00 

 14 

TR-SL5-16

 $109.00 

 18 

TR-5amp-24

 $300.00 

 10 

TR-6500

 $300.00 

   9 

TR-5amp-N

 $300.00 

 15 

TR-5a-24

 $154.00 

   6 

TR-5plus-20

 $192.00 

 70 

TR-CPQ-N

 $ 98.00 

   3 

EL-500ag / TR-24H-120-13

 $250.00 

113 

TR-6600

 $115.00 

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Re: [WISPA] Promotion

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 10:50 -0500, Jeff Ehman wrote:
> First, this is an area with people not used to high 
> speed internet so I think it would be very tough for 
> them to figure out how to connect to the access point.  

This is not something that many would have a difficult time with.  I
think that a bigger reality is that most of the people that would see it
would be either transient customers (not residents) OR they would
already have a broadband connection and be setting up laptops to connect
to their own AP/Router in their office/home.  

> Also, I would assume that not too many people out there have a 
> need for a laptop or travel around with one if they do.  

This is sort of the point I was making above.  Most people who are in
their "home area" would not be searching for a new connection with their
laptops.

> Third, it would be much easier to make a simple flyer and mail it 
> then trying to buy/configure/install a wireless hotspot.  ESPECIALLY 
> if you are looking at Mikrotik and have never used it before.

Setting up a Mikrotik Hotspot is something that can be done in less than
30 minutes in most cases.  This is not that hard to do.  The real
problem with the hotspot idea is that most hotspots (including Mikrotik)
will require internet access in order to function correctly.  

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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[Scott Carullo]

P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
> From: "J. Vogel" 
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
> 
> Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
> info about it on their site.
> 
> John
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> > My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 

> > these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
> >
> > To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 

> > ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
remotely 
> > (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 
tower. 
> > It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 
sent 
> > to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) 
I 
> > love the unit.
> > marlon
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
> >
> >
> >   
> >> I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will 
use.
> >> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp 
power
> >> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
> >> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
> >> estimate on kw/hr first.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I do new wire from radio to just inside the house, and splice.

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

  I've used cat5 couplers before and always end of having to go back and run a
new wire so that's what I do from now. Also get to charge the customer more
with the new wire.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

splice?  We NEVER splice the cable.  It's always new.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "D. Ryan Spott" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll


  
  
Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other
breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time.

ryan


D. Ryan Spott
rsp...@cspott.com



On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:



  I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago.
Replaced
the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it.
Then just
last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed
through the
new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I
replaced
the entire cable again and charged them $50.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or
cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna
to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it,
etc.).

Travis
Microserv

my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
  
  
I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and
business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp
subscriber equipment.

We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially
when
we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a
whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch
services,
etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but
when
they go bad, they're expensive to replace.

Like to hear how others are doing it.

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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[Vickie Edwards]

ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
info about it on their site.

John

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20
watts 
> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
>
> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an

> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to
remotely 
> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a
tower. 
> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be
sent 
> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?)
I 
> love the unit.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>
>
>   
>> I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will
use.
>> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp
power
>> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
>> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
>> estimate on kw/hr first.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[J. Vogel]

Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
info about it on their site.

John

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 
> these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
>
> To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 
> ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to remotely 
> (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a tower. 
> It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be sent 
> to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I 
> love the unit.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
>
>
>   
>> I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
>> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power
>> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
>> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
>> estimate on kw/hr first.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I've used cat5 couplers before and always end of having to go back and run a
new wire so that's what I do from now. Also get to charge the customer more
with the new wire.

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Bucyrus, OH 44820
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

splice?  We NEVER splice the cable.  It's always new.
marlon

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From: "D. Ryan Spott" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll


> Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other
> breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time.
>
> ryan
>
>
> D. Ryan Spott
> rsp...@cspott.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago.
>> Replaced
>> the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it.
>> Then just
>> last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed
>> through the
>> new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I
>> replaced
>> the entire cable again and charged them $50.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
>>
>> We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or
>> cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna
>> to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it,
>> etc.).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
>>> I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and
>>> business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp
>>> subscriber equipment.
>>>
>>> We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially
>>> when
>>> we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a
>>> whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch
>>> services,
>>> etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but
>>> when
>>> they go bad, they're expensive to replace.
>>>
>>> Like to hear how others are doing it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna

[Jason Hensley]

There are a few options for a 5.8 Hpol omni, but not one that covers
5.1-5.8.  

Thanks!



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna

This is only 5.7-5.8 and I think it's going to be the closest match to your
request. Only HPOL omni I have ever seen in that band.

http://www.wlanparts.com/product/58EOH9/Antenna_58GHZ_OUTDOOR_OMNIDIRECTIONA
L_HPOL_9DBI_58EOH9.html


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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:22 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna

Looking for a H-Pol Omni that covers the entire 5Ghz band (5.1-5.8Ghz).
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

[Marlon K. Schafer]

My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 
these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 
ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to remotely 
(through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a tower. 
It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be sent 
to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I 
love the unit.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Rohrbacher" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


>I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
> How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power
> supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
> I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
> estimate on kw/hr first.
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna

[Kurt Fankhauser]

This is only 5.7-5.8 and I think it's going to be the closest match to your
request. Only HPOL omni I have ever seen in that band.

http://www.wlanparts.com/product/58EOH9/Antenna_58GHZ_OUTDOOR_OMNIDIRECTIONA
L_HPOL_9DBI_58EOH9.html


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:22 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna

Looking for a H-Pol Omni that covers the entire 5Ghz band (5.1-5.8Ghz).
Anyone know of an antenna that does that?





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Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[Marlon K. Schafer]

15 minute drive?  Oh man.  How cool would that be?

I have 1.5 hour drives to both edges of the network.  It's still just me too!
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Rohrbacher 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll


  I never used to charge for a lot of that stuff but then one day I said screw 
it.  $75 for a service call.  I had some complaints, started lowering the price 
for 5 minute repairs and decided on another change.  I now do $50 service 
calls.  I decided instead of getting complaints about $75 or lowering the price 
all the time because it's a quick fix that I'd be better off and have an easier 
time charging $50 all the time than $75 half the time.  It has worked out 
nicely.  No complaints and I don't feel like I'm screwing people (like $75 for 
a 5 minute job).  Couple things to remember is my coverage area is pretty 
small.  My office is in the middle so the drive time to any edge is not much 
more than 15 minutes.  We're also mostly residental, so we don't need instant 
response.  I can schedule a couple things in one area to make it efficient.

  Brian

  Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 
Oh my! We could never get away with charging anywhere near that! If we sent
our customers a bill like that they would call up the bigger wisp in this
area that is doing free installs and just switch. Not to mention the DSL
here is $20/month.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

I think sometimes the provider shoots themselves in the foot, because they 
don't charge, when a customer would be perfectly willing to pay.
For example, The second time a dogs eats a wire, as Kurt explained, I don't 
think most home owners would mind paying.
In most cases we do repair/maintenance at NO Charge, for things that are our

responsibilty, that we warrant to cover.
And we'll give customers a break now and then, if they are an easy or long 
term customer of ours.
But there is nothing wrong with charging, when its appropriate. Nothing less

than $90, our 1 hour min..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll


  Win:win:win situation!

Cops around here...I'm going to leave this one be.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer


On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

Around here the cops would let you beat them up and still make them pay
financially. *grins*

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

Should have charged them the first time.  If someone threw paint on
your truck would you scrub it off or make them pay (financially pr
physically)?

On 4/18/09, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
  I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. 
Replaced
the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then
just
  last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through 
the
new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I
replaced
  the entire cable again and charged them $50.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or
cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna
to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it,
etc.).
  Travis
Microserv

my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and
business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp
subscriber equipment.

We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially 
when
we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a
whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services,
etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, bu

Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll

[Marlon K. Schafer]

splice?  We NEVER splice the cable.  It's always new.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "D. Ryan Spott" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll


> Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other
> breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time.
>
> ryan
>
>
> D. Ryan Spott
> rsp...@cspott.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago.
>> Replaced
>> the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it.
>> Then just
>> last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed
>> through the
>> new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I
>> replaced
>> the entire cable again and charged them $50.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
>>
>> We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or
>> cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna
>> to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it,
>> etc.).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
>>> I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and
>>> business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp
>>> subscriber equipment.
>>>
>>> We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially
>>> when
>>> we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a
>>> whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch
>>> services,
>>> etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but
>>> when
>>> they go bad, they're expensive to replace.
>>>
>>> Like to hear how others are doing it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless/Wimax in Nashville

[Ray & Jean]

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Subject: [WISPA] Wireless/Wimax in Nashville


> Does anyone know of a provider doing this type of service in the areas 
> North of Nashville?  We can see downtown Nashville in the distance.  We 
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[WISPA] 5GHz antenna

[Jason Hensley]

Looking for a H-Pol Omni that covers the entire 5Ghz band (5.1-5.8Ghz).
Anyone know of an antenna that does that?




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[WISPA] Wireless/Wimax in Nashville

[Norman Schippert]

Does anyone know of a provider doing this type of service in the areas North of 
Nashville?  We can see downtown Nashville in the distance.  We are right off 
I-65.



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