Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Nash
Thanks...

So is this how it goes?...

Attach the cat5's ground strand to the ground terminal on the PoE box, and 
just cut the strand and foil at the RJ45 plug that goes into the radio?

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact


 Mark... I've never seen a recommendation from Dragonwave to ground the
 Ethernet cable at the top.  For all of the links I have installed... I 
 never
 have...

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact

We're installing a Dragonwave Horizon Compact system and I'm not quite
sure
how to ground it.

First off, this unit has dual copper ethernets (1 for PoE/Data, 1 for
Management).  The unit is completely outside powered via PoE.

We know how to ground the radio above, and the cat5 below at the PoE /
Lightning Arrestor.

What we don't know is what to do with the ethernet cable above.

We're using the Belden 7919A outdoor shielded cable, as recommended by
the
Dragonwave Quick Reference Guide.

Can someone tell me if the ethernet cables need to be grounded near the
radio at the top of the tower?

This is on a water tower, btw, and we have a ground cable going from the
ground rod directly to the radio (#6, about 150').  Other side is on a
high
school rooftop, grounded directly to a rod (#6, about 200').  Again, not
sure what to do with the radio-side cat5 cable.

Any help would be appreciated, as we're to have this project completed
by
Friday and into testing phase.

Thanks...

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com





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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Nash
yeesh...  I had a guy call today.  Asked him to reboot his computer.  He 
said that he did.  When we asked him are you sure you rebooted your 
computer, he asked how to I do that?.

This business would be great if it weren't for the customers, sometimes. ;)

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
 day.



 The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
 called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has Internet
 when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and 
 obviously
 his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see 
 the
 client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE. 
 The
 customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
 POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am 
 doing,
 I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
 switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
 again.



 Imagine that!



 Rick Harnish



 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
 the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they are
 too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to 
 where
 it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual 
 crops
 of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
 guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
 fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be like,
 if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a couple
 days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
 fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just out
 to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I 
 finally
 had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
 strange.



 Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
 few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning storm
 at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked 
 up
 silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.



 The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
 Tranzeo radio.



 I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the 
 month
 of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their
 Internet has not worked since then.  I actually left a phone message for
 them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they 
 had
 died or something.  Oddly, another Tranzeo customer.  All they had to do 
 was
 power cycle the radio.  But waiting 2.5 months before calling?



 - Original Message - 

 From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com

 To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org  User Group

 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM

 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the 
 year
 shook my office!

 -Steve D



 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com
 wrote:

 That sounds like an average afternoon here in Central Florida. We dread 
 the
 season. Fortunately today has been rather calm..so far.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida#Climate

 Florida's nickname is the Sunshine State, but severe weather is a 
 common
 occurrence in the state. Central Florida is known as the lightning capital
 of the United States, as it experiences more lightning strikes than 
 anywhere
 else in the country.

 L

 Dylan

 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Doug Clark
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather




 Its been thunderstorms and massive rain here, I have been fielding non 
 stop
 calls

 with blown routers and ethernet cards :o(



 ---Original Message---



 From: Matt Larsen - Lists mailto:li...@manageisp.com

 Date: 6/10/2009 3:44:24 PM

 To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org ;  Motorola Canopy
 mailto:motor...@wispa.org  User Group;  w...@part-15.org

 Subject: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 Storm #2 rolling in today



 We've already had three tornado warnings and at least one on the ground

 within three miles of my house.  Amazingly 

Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact

2009-06-11 Thread lakeland
We install Transtector CAT5 protectors at the radio and where cable enters the 
structure. We don't ground the POE otherwise.  Never had an issue with a 
poolpoad of links on some of NYC's tallest buildings

Bob 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:10:02 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact


Thanks...

So is this how it goes?...

Attach the cat5's ground strand to the ground terminal on the PoE box, and 
just cut the strand and foil at the RJ45 plug that goes into the radio?

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact


 Mark... I've never seen a recommendation from Dragonwave to ground the
 Ethernet cable at the top.  For all of the links I have installed... I 
 never
 have...

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact

We're installing a Dragonwave Horizon Compact system and I'm not quite
sure
how to ground it.

First off, this unit has dual copper ethernets (1 for PoE/Data, 1 for
Management).  The unit is completely outside powered via PoE.

We know how to ground the radio above, and the cat5 below at the PoE /
Lightning Arrestor.

What we don't know is what to do with the ethernet cable above.

We're using the Belden 7919A outdoor shielded cable, as recommended by
the
Dragonwave Quick Reference Guide.

Can someone tell me if the ethernet cables need to be grounded near the
radio at the top of the tower?

This is on a water tower, btw, and we have a ground cable going from the
ground rod directly to the radio (#6, about 150').  Other side is on a
high
school rooftop, grounded directly to a rod (#6, about 200').  Again, not
sure what to do with the radio-side cat5 cable.

Any help would be appreciated, as we're to have this project completed
by
Friday and into testing phase.

Thanks...

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com





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[WISPA] Cat5 Grounding

2009-06-11 Thread Eric Rogers
Ok... I have been dreaming a little.  I have had a couple direct hits on
towers because of the storms through the Midwest and it got me
thinking... (ouch it hurts)...

We put patch panels at the top and bottom of the towers and usually run
bundles of cables between.  The more I am getting into the RF world and
towers, (I am an IT guy by heart), I am thinking that using the 25 pair
lines with an armor/shield would be a better way of going.  If I ran 2 -
25 pair runs up a tower, then you can follow the grounding ritual of
grounding at the equipment, as it comes off a tower, and just before it
enters the building with standard coax grounding kits that Tessco and
others sell.

Thoughts?  Anyone do this currently?

Eric



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Re: [WISPA] Rad Airmux 200 Login

2009-06-11 Thread Bob Moldashel
Thanks Josh


Josh Luthman wrote:
 Ya I love sending three emails to get one response - SORRY =(

 To my knowledge, it is the only option.  I know there is no HTTP (at least
 HTML, don't know how the software communicates) or telnet/ssh interface.

 Software is decent, but is not nearly good enough to excuse the need for a
 Windows only executable that you can't download unless you jump through
 hoops or keep a hold of from the CD with the purchase of a new unit.  Plus
 it is a bit confusing IMO.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

   
 Only Windows would have so many dumb characters and spaces...

 Softlink:
 http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/ceragonairmuxsoftware.zip

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 
 Pretty sure this is what you're after...

 http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/FA4800 Manager 1[1].620.zip

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netwrote:

   
 OK Boys and Girls

 Anyone know where I can get a copy of Management Software for this
 baby.  I have a new customer with an existing link that is giving them
 problems and they don't have it.  I am told it is the only way to config
 and look at the radio. Is this true?

 Any help would be appreciated. Offlist if you prefer.

 Tnx.

 Bob
 lakel...@gbcx.net




 
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Re: [WISPA] Rad Airmux 200 Login

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
For you it was the least I could do!

On 6/11/09, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 Thanks Josh


 Josh Luthman wrote:
 Ya I love sending three emails to get one response - SORRY =(

 To my knowledge, it is the only option.  I know there is no HTTP (at least
 HTML, don't know how the software communicates) or telnet/ssh interface.

 Software is decent, but is not nearly good enough to excuse the need for a
 Windows only executable that you can't download unless you jump through
 hoops or keep a hold of from the CD with the purchase of a new unit.  Plus
 it is a bit confusing IMO.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:


 Only Windows would have so many dumb characters and spaces...

 Softlink:
 http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/ceragonairmuxsoftware.zip

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


 Pretty sure this is what you're after...

 http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/FA4800 Manager 1[1].620.zip

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bob Moldashel
 lakel...@gbcx.netwrote:


 OK Boys and Girls

 Anyone know where I can get a copy of Management Software for this
 baby.  I have a new customer with an existing link that is giving them
 problems and they don't have it.  I am told it is the only way to
 config
 and look at the radio. Is this true?

 Any help would be appreciated. Offlist if you prefer.

 Tnx.

 Bob
 lakel...@gbcx.net




 
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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

2009-06-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
LOL  Yeah, we get a LOT of calls that the office gals cant fix.  I'll ask if 
the customers have already rebooted etc.  They'll say yes.

So I'll go through the routine of having the customer power cycle 
everything.  OK, did you pull out the power plug for the little white box 
with a green light on it?  Customer:  Yeah, I just did that but I'll do it 
again.

Next thing you know it's all working fine.  The girls HATE it when that 
happens.  Customers just say yes to everything.  If they'd just give 
accurate answers we could be so much more helpful and get things done much 
faster!

As for weather, I spent about 14 hours on Tuesday doing repair work from a 
couple of storms over the weekend.  Power supplies, routers, ethernet 
adapters etc.  A couple of radios.  The strangest was when a radio power 
supply would blow and the ethernet adapter in the computer would blow, but 
nothing would happen to the router that was in the middle.  Go figure.  The 
blown ethernet was 100% HP or Dell on board ethernet adapters.  I've seen 
quite a few of the Dell's go.

Fortunately none of the failures was my gear.  Knock on wood.

I was down there with my bucket truck for part of one of them.  In the day 
the lightning would light things up and we could hear the thunder inside the 
truck at 60mph.  Amazing stuff.

One lady that I talked to said she'd lived in the area since the 60's and 
could count on one hand the number of worse storms that she's seen. 
Probably with fingers left over.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 yeesh...  I had a guy call today.  Asked him to reboot his computer.  He
 said that he did.  When we asked him are you sure you rebooted your
 computer, he asked how to I do that?.

 This business would be great if it weren't for the customers, sometimes. 
 ;)

 Mark Nash
 UnwiredWest
 78 Centennial Loop
 Suite E
 Eugene, OR 97401
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 http://www.unwiredwest.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:30 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
 day.



 The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
 called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has 
 Internet
 when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
 his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
 client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
 The
 customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
 POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
 I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
 switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
 again.



 Imagine that!



 Rick Harnish



 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
 the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they 
 are
 too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
 it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
 of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
 guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
 fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be 
 like,
 if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a 
 couple
 days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
 fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just 
 out
 to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I
 finally
 had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
 strange.



 Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
 few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning 
 storm
 at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked
 up
 silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.



 The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
 Tranzeo radio.



 I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the
 month
 of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their
 Internet has not worked since then.  I actually left a phone message for
 them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they
 had
 died or something.  Oddly, another Tranzeo customer.  All they had to do
 was
 power 

Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread RickG
I had a similar incident with the previous wisp I owned in Palm Beach:
Customer called with outage so I went to their location to find a
crane lifting a large load in front of their radio. Worse yet, the
crew was taking lunch and left it right in the way.
My favorite outage happened just the other day. One of my towers went
completely out. This tower has always been sensitive to power outages
during electrical storms but there were none in the area. The
equipment is located in a shed so I went in, first eyeballing the
shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
the cord which was now unplugged!
-RickG

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Listsli...@stlbroadband.com wrote:
 LOL.
 I had several support calls today.  I tried to trouble shoot, but not the
 usual problems.
 My Dude Server started pinging away today and sending messages to my
 Blackberry around noon.  Customers were going down left and right.  No
 storms in the area, the AP was up and running, no obvious problems.  So we
 jumped into the jeep and headed for the highrise that this AP was on which
 several businesses connect to.  All the while customers connecting and
 disconnecting.
 Upon approaching the end of our 57 mile drive we see the highrise looming in
 the background with a 200'+ crane standing in front of our radio lifting an
 AC off the roof.  I was relieved, but a bit upset with the property
 management.
 Just goes to show you, every support call can be the unexpected.

 Victoria Proffer
 CEO
 StLouisBroadband.com
 ShowMeBroadband.com
 314.974.5600
 SBA Certified WOSB

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Rick Harnish
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:31 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

 This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
 day.



 The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
 called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has Internet
 when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and obviously
 his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see the
 client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.  The
 customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
 POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am doing,
 I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
 switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
 again.



 Imagine that!



 Rick Harnish



 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
 the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they are
 too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to where
 it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual crops
 of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
 guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
 fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be like,
 if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a couple
 days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
 fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just out
 to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I finally
 had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
 strange.



 Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
 few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning storm
 at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked up
 silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.



 The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
 Tranzeo radio.



 I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the month
 of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their
 Internet has not worked since then.  I actually left a phone message for
 them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they had
 died or something.  Oddly, another Tranzeo customer.  All they had to do was
 power cycle the radio.  But waiting 2.5 months before calling?



 - Original Message -

 From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com

 To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org  User Group

 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM

 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the year
 shook my office!

 -Steve D



 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, 

Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
So you're saying you need to put a shovel to chop up the snakes in the work
truck too?  Geez, this things getting full =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a similar incident with the previous wisp I owned in Palm Beach:
 Customer called with outage so I went to their location to find a
 crane lifting a large load in front of their radio. Worse yet, the
 crew was taking lunch and left it right in the way.
 My favorite outage happened just the other day. One of my towers went
 completely out. This tower has always been sensitive to power outages
 during electrical storms but there were none in the area. The
 equipment is located in a shed so I went in, first eyeballing the
 shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
 down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
 the cord which was now unplugged!
 -RickG

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Listsli...@stlbroadband.com wrote:
  LOL.
  I had several support calls today.  I tried to trouble shoot, but not the
  usual problems.
  My Dude Server started pinging away today and sending messages to my
  Blackberry around noon.  Customers were going down left and right.  No
  storms in the area, the AP was up and running, no obvious problems.  So
 we
  jumped into the jeep and headed for the highrise that this AP was on
 which
  several businesses connect to.  All the while customers connecting and
  disconnecting.
  Upon approaching the end of our 57 mile drive we see the highrise looming
 in
  the background with a 200'+ crane standing in front of our radio lifting
 an
  AC off the roof.  I was relieved, but a bit upset with the property
  management.
  Just goes to show you, every support call can be the unexpected.
 
  Victoria Proffer
  CEO
  StLouisBroadband.com
  ShowMeBroadband.com
  314.974.5600
  SBA Certified WOSB
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Rick Harnish
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:31 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather
 
  This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
  day.
 
 
 
  The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
  called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has
 Internet
  when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
  his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
  client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
  The
  customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
  POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
  I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
  switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
  again.
 
 
 
  Imagine that!
 
 
 
  Rick Harnish
 
 
 
  From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
  To: Motorola Canopy User Group
  Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather
 
 
 
  This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
  the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they
 are
  too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
  it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
  of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
  guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
  fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be
 like,
  if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a
 couple
  days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
  fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just
 out
  to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I
 finally
  had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
  strange.
 
 
 
  Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
  few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning
 storm
  at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked
 up
  silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.
 
 
 
  The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
  Tranzeo radio.
 
 
 
  I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the
 month
  of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their
  Internet has not worked since then.  I actually left a phone message for
  them in April, they are an older couple 

Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread RickG
LOL, I remember someone listed tools for the truck but didnt see that! -RickG

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 So you're saying you need to put a shovel to chop up the snakes in the work
 truck too?  Geez, this things getting full =)

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a similar incident with the previous wisp I owned in Palm Beach:
 Customer called with outage so I went to their location to find a
 crane lifting a large load in front of their radio. Worse yet, the
 crew was taking lunch and left it right in the way.
 My favorite outage happened just the other day. One of my towers went
 completely out. This tower has always been sensitive to power outages
 during electrical storms but there were none in the area. The
 equipment is located in a shed so I went in, first eyeballing the
 shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
 down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
 the cord which was now unplugged!
 -RickG

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Listsli...@stlbroadband.com wrote:
  LOL.
  I had several support calls today.  I tried to trouble shoot, but not the
  usual problems.
  My Dude Server started pinging away today and sending messages to my
  Blackberry around noon.  Customers were going down left and right.  No
  storms in the area, the AP was up and running, no obvious problems.  So
 we
  jumped into the jeep and headed for the highrise that this AP was on
 which
  several businesses connect to.  All the while customers connecting and
  disconnecting.
  Upon approaching the end of our 57 mile drive we see the highrise looming
 in
  the background with a 200'+ crane standing in front of our radio lifting
 an
  AC off the roof.  I was relieved, but a bit upset with the property
  management.
  Just goes to show you, every support call can be the unexpected.
 
  Victoria Proffer
  CEO
  StLouisBroadband.com
  ShowMeBroadband.com
  314.974.5600
  SBA Certified WOSB
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Rick Harnish
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:31 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather
 
  This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
  day.
 
 
 
  The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
  called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has
 Internet
  when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
  his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
  client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
  The
  customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
  POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
  I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
  switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
  again.
 
 
 
  Imagine that!
 
 
 
  Rick Harnish
 
 
 
  From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
  To: Motorola Canopy User Group
  Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather
 
 
 
  This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
  the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they
 are
  too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
  it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
  of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
  guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
  fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be
 like,
  if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a
 couple
  days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
  fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just
 out
  to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I
 finally
  had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
  strange.
 
 
 
  Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
  few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning
 storm
  at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked
 up
  silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.
 
 
 
  The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
  Tranzeo radio.
 
 
 
  I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the
 month
  of March, they 

Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I actually just read it 10 minutes ago :)

On 6/11/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 LOL, I remember someone listed tools for the truck but didnt see that!
 -RickG

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Josh
 Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 So you're saying you need to put a shovel to chop up the snakes in the
 work
 truck too?  Geez, this things getting full =)

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a similar incident with the previous wisp I owned in Palm Beach:
 Customer called with outage so I went to their location to find a
 crane lifting a large load in front of their radio. Worse yet, the
 crew was taking lunch and left it right in the way.
 My favorite outage happened just the other day. One of my towers went
 completely out. This tower has always been sensitive to power outages
 during electrical storms but there were none in the area. The
 equipment is located in a shed so I went in, first eyeballing the
 shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
 down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
 the cord which was now unplugged!
 -RickG

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Listsli...@stlbroadband.com wrote:
  LOL.
  I had several support calls today.  I tried to trouble shoot, but not
  the
  usual problems.
  My Dude Server started pinging away today and sending messages to my
  Blackberry around noon.  Customers were going down left and right.  No
  storms in the area, the AP was up and running, no obvious problems.  So
 we
  jumped into the jeep and headed for the highrise that this AP was on
 which
  several businesses connect to.  All the while customers connecting and
  disconnecting.
  Upon approaching the end of our 57 mile drive we see the highrise
  looming
 in
  the background with a 200'+ crane standing in front of our radio
  lifting
 an
  AC off the roof.  I was relieved, but a bit upset with the property
  management.
  Just goes to show you, every support call can be the unexpected.
 
  Victoria Proffer
  CEO
  StLouisBroadband.com
  ShowMeBroadband.com
  314.974.5600
  SBA Certified WOSB
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Rick Harnish
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:31 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather
 
  This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the
  other
  day.
 
 
 
  The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why
  he
  called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has
 Internet
  when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
  his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
  client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
  The
  customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on
  the
  POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
  I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the
  light
  switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
  again.
 
 
 
  Imagine that!
 
 
 
  Rick Harnish
 
 
 
  From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
  To: Motorola Canopy User Group
  Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather
 
 
 
  This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some
  of
  the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they
 are
  too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
  it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
  of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.
   I
  guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
  fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be
 like,
  if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a
 couple
  days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
  fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just
 out
  to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I
 finally
  had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
  strange.
 
 
 
  Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The
  last
  few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning
 storm
  at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have
  picked
 up
  silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.
 
 
 
  The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
  

Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding

2009-06-11 Thread Scott Reed
That and put surge suppressors in the Cat5 between the patch panel and 
the devices.
Maybe something like APCs
PRM4 
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PRM4with 
PNETR 
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR5modules

Eric Rogers wrote:
 Ok... I have been dreaming a little.  I have had a couple direct hits on
 towers because of the storms through the Midwest and it got me
 thinking... (ouch it hurts)...

 We put patch panels at the top and bottom of the towers and usually run
 bundles of cables between.  The more I am getting into the RF world and
 towers, (I am an IT guy by heart), I am thinking that using the 25 pair
 lines with an armor/shield would be a better way of going.  If I ran 2 -
 25 pair runs up a tower, then you can follow the grounding ritual of
 grounding at the equipment, as it comes off a tower, and just before it
 enters the building with standard coax grounding kits that Tessco and
 others sell.

 Thoughts?  Anyone do this currently?

 Eric


 
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[WISPA] Conficker Attack?

2009-06-11 Thread Ryan Ghering
So last night at about 10 pm we started to receive the largest flood I have
ever seen. It looked like a DDOS attack, looking into my router
the tcp flow showed an input queue of over 100 million pps on my DS3
upstream. By default we block all Microsoft internal ports in and out bound
on our upstream. i.e 137 138 445 etc. port 445 deny showed 3.1 million hits.
I cleared the counters, contacted my upstream, they see it as well. They
input a Access-list to block port 445 and the attack starts dropping off. (
took about 10 mins for the network buffers to clear and the load to drop on
my routers ). The question is was this caused by conficker? what other
attacks use 445 tcp ?

As a side note, my upstream called this morning, asked if they could remove
the access-list, stating its policy to only leave ACL's in place for 12 to
24 hours.
I asked them If this was conficker what can be done to permently block it.
They tell me this is my issue not theres. So I have to take a chance in 12
hours when they remove the ACL that my network will be screwed again. An log
export shows in just a 10 minute period over 18,000 address's denyed on 445
tcp.

Needless to say it was a long night. and a screwed up morning. Has anyone
else experianced a similar flood on 445 recently?


Ryan



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[WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread RickG
I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company
provided 4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is
slightly larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about
mounting 2.5 mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross
brackets. any ideas?
-RickG



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Re: [WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
Tessco has all of that stuff. We have done it before.

-Cameron

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] new water tank

I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company
provided 4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is
slightly larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about
mounting 2.5 mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross
brackets. any ideas?
-RickG




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Re: [WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Pretty much anything you could need is here:
http://www.tessco.com/products/productHierarchy.do?subtabId=132

Specifically:
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=482468eventPag
e=1


 
 
__ 
Jerry Richardson 
airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] new water tank

I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company provided
4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is slightly
larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about mounting 2.5
mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross brackets. any ideas?
-RickG




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Re: [WISPA] Conficker Attack?

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
If 445 is the Windows SMB port then a whole bunch of viruses use it.
Something like 90% of viruses?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:

 So last night at about 10 pm we started to receive the largest flood I have
 ever seen. It looked like a DDOS attack, looking into my router
 the tcp flow showed an input queue of over 100 million pps on my DS3
 upstream. By default we block all Microsoft internal ports in and out bound
 on our upstream. i.e 137 138 445 etc. port 445 deny showed 3.1 million
 hits.
 I cleared the counters, contacted my upstream, they see it as well. They
 input a Access-list to block port 445 and the attack starts dropping off. (
 took about 10 mins for the network buffers to clear and the load to drop on
 my routers ). The question is was this caused by conficker? what other
 attacks use 445 tcp ?

 As a side note, my upstream called this morning, asked if they could remove
 the access-list, stating its policy to only leave ACL's in place for 12 to
 24 hours.
 I asked them If this was conficker what can be done to permently block it.
 They tell me this is my issue not theres. So I have to take a chance in 12
 hours when they remove the ACL that my network will be screwed again. An
 log
 export shows in just a 10 minute period over 18,000 address's denyed on 445
 tcp.

 Needless to say it was a long night. and a screwed up morning. Has anyone
 else experianced a similar flood on 445 recently?


 Ryan



 
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Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding

2009-06-11 Thread Eric Rogers
I already use them, but doesn't always help.  That is our standard setup
now.  They have saved us many times, but if we take a direct hit,
sometimes the equipment makes it, and sometimes it doesn't.  For
instance, we got hit last night.  Only two sectors blew, the rest are
still working 9 total radios operating and 2 dead ones.  I was just
brainstorming and thought if we could ground the cat5 bundle better, it
might keep the potential differences to a minimum by grounding at the
top, as it leaves the tower, and as it enters the building.

Eric



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding

That and put surge suppressors in the Cat5 between the patch panel and 
the devices.
Maybe something like APCs
PRM4 
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PRM4wi
th 
PNETR 
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR5
modules

Eric Rogers wrote:
 Ok... I have been dreaming a little.  I have had a couple direct hits
on
 towers because of the storms through the Midwest and it got me
 thinking... (ouch it hurts)...

 We put patch panels at the top and bottom of the towers and usually
run
 bundles of cables between.  The more I am getting into the RF world
and
 towers, (I am an IT guy by heart), I am thinking that using the 25
pair
 lines with an armor/shield would be a better way of going.  If I ran 2
-
 25 pair runs up a tower, then you can follow the grounding ritual of
 grounding at the equipment, as it comes off a tower, and just before
it
 enters the building with standard coax grounding kits that Tessco and
 others sell.

 Thoughts?  Anyone do this currently?

 Eric





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Re: [WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread lakeland
www.sitepro1.com.  Hutton. Tessco. 

Site pro will be cheapest
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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:03:46 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] new water tank


I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company
provided 4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is
slightly larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about
mounting 2.5 mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross
brackets. any ideas?
-RickG



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Re: [WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread Scott Reed
One more source:
www.nellinc.com

RickG wrote:
 I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company
 provided 4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is
 slightly larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about
 mounting 2.5 mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross
 brackets. any ideas?
 -RickG


 
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Re: [WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread Scott Reed
Oops.
nelloinc.com

Scott Reed wrote:
 One more source:
 www.nellinc.com

 RickG wrote:
   
 I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company
 provided 4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is
 slightly larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about
 mounting 2.5 mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross
 brackets. any ideas?
 -RickG


 
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Re: [WISPA] Conficker Attack?

2009-06-11 Thread Charles Wyble


Ryan Ghering wrote:

 As a side note, my upstream called this morning, asked if they could remove
 the access-list, stating its policy to only leave ACL's in place for 12 to
 24 hours.
 I asked them If this was conficker what can be done to permently block it.


Do they have an IPS in place? If they aren't blocking the windows ports 
(which I understand the rational for/against), then I would hope they 
have an IPS in place. If so, signatures are readily available to detect 
conficker.



 They tell me this is my issue not theres.

Heh. Typical.

  So I have to take a chance in 12
 hours when they remove the ACL that my network will be screwed again. An log
 export shows in just a 10 minute period over 18,000 address's denyed on 445
 tcp.

Yep. Sounds about right. They really should implement filtering. Can 
they do an ACL just on your vlan? I understand them not wanting to 
filter at the border. However they should be willing to filter on your 
VLAN. Is this one of the major telcos?



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[WISPA] Service in Newport TN?

2009-06-11 Thread Kristi Fundu
Please hit me off-list.
Thanks.

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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

2009-06-11 Thread reader
I thought I was alone...   I would not have believed that I could have a 
customer who's had a computer for a long time, and used them at work, and 
when I asked if she could reboot it, she had no idea what I meant.

We finally found that her putting her MAC into sleep mode resulted in no 
connection when it woke up.No idea why.   She now shuts it down at 
night.





insert witty tagline here

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 yeesh...  I had a guy call today.  Asked him to reboot his computer.  He
 said that he did.  When we asked him are you sure you rebooted your
 computer, he asked how to I do that?.

 This business would be great if it weren't for the customers, sometimes. 
 ;)

 Mark Nash
 UnwiredWest
 78 Centennial Loop
 Suite E
 Eugene, OR 97401
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 http://www.unwiredwest.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:30 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
 day.



 The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
 called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has 
 Internet
 when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
 his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
 client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
 The
 customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
 POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
 I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
 switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
 again.



 Imagine that!



 Rick Harnish



 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
 the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they 
 are
 too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
 it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
 of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
 guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
 fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be 
 like,
 if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a 
 couple
 days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
 fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just 
 out
 to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I
 finally
 had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
 strange.



 Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
 few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning 
 storm
 at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked
 up
 silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.



 The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
 Tranzeo radio.



 I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the
 month
 of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their
 Internet has not worked since then.  I actually left a phone message for
 them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they
 had
 died or something.  Oddly, another Tranzeo customer.  All they had to do
 was
 power cycle the radio.  But waiting 2.5 months before calling?



 - Original Message - 

 From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com

 To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org  User Group

 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM

 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the
 year
 shook my office!

 -Steve D



 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com
 wrote:

 That sounds like an average afternoon here in Central Florida. We dread
 the
 season. Fortunately today has been rather calm..so far.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida#Climate

 Florida's nickname is the Sunshine State, but severe weather is a
 common
 occurrence in the state. Central Florida is known as the lightning 
 capital
 of the United States, as it experiences more lightning strikes than
 anywhere
 else in the country.

 L

 Dylan

 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Doug Clark
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 PM
 To: Motorola 

Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

2009-06-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have been doing tech support for over 10 years now since the dialup 
days. I have learned two very important lessons when dealing with customers:

1. Always assume the customer is completely computer illiterate and 
incompetent. Initially treat the customer like you would a 5 year old 
when explaining something to them. Once you have a grasp for how much 
they know then you can move a bit quicker.

2. NEVER give the customer a choice. Always ask what have you done, what 
does the screen say, how do you access your email, which program do you 
use, etc. Never use leading questions like: have you tried this or 
does the error message read that. Always assume the customer will lie 
to you.

Yes this its depressing to have to do this, but once you learn to work 
with customers like this your call times will decrease. You will not run 
around in circles because it will be harder for the customer to give you 
false information. You do need patience to listen to everything the 
customer says, and you will be able to pick out the relevant information 
to find the problem sooner.

The good news is that there are exceptions to this. You will learn which 
customers are more capable than others and be able to work with them at 
a higher level.

just my 2 cents...

- Matt

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 LOL  Yeah, we get a LOT of calls that the office gals cant fix.  I'll ask if 
 the customers have already rebooted etc.  They'll say yes.

 So I'll go through the routine of having the customer power cycle 
 everything.  OK, did you pull out the power plug for the little white box 
 with a green light on it?  Customer:  Yeah, I just did that but I'll do it 
 again.

 Next thing you know it's all working fine.  The girls HATE it when that 
 happens.  Customers just say yes to everything.  If they'd just give 
 accurate answers we could be so much more helpful and get things done much 
 faster!

 As for weather, I spent about 14 hours on Tuesday doing repair work from a 
 couple of storms over the weekend.  Power supplies, routers, ethernet 
 adapters etc.  A couple of radios.  The strangest was when a radio power 
 supply would blow and the ethernet adapter in the computer would blow, but 
 nothing would happen to the router that was in the middle.  Go figure.  The 
 blown ethernet was 100% HP or Dell on board ethernet adapters.  I've seen 
 quite a few of the Dell's go.

 Fortunately none of the failures was my gear.  Knock on wood.

 I was down there with my bucket truck for part of one of them.  In the day 
 the lightning would light things up and we could hear the thunder inside the 
 truck at 60mph.  Amazing stuff.

 One lady that I talked to said she'd lived in the area since the 60's and 
 could count on one hand the number of worse storms that she's seen. 
 Probably with fingers left over.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


   
 yeesh...  I had a guy call today.  Asked him to reboot his computer.  He
 said that he did.  When we asked him are you sure you rebooted your
 computer, he asked how to I do that?.

 This business would be great if it weren't for the customers, sometimes. 
 ;)

 Mark Nash
 UnwiredWest
 78 Centennial Loop
 Suite E
 Eugene, OR 97401
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 http://www.unwiredwest.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:30 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 
 This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
 day.



 The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
 called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has 
 Internet
 when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
 his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
 client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
 The
 customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
 POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
 I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
 switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
 again.



 Imagine that!



 Rick Harnish



 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
 the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they 
 are
 too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
 it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
 of field or soybeans.  They are 

Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding

2009-06-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
Does anyone have any pictures showing how you break out and ground the 
Cat5 shield in cases where the radios are at the top of the tower?

Thanks,

Matt



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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

2009-06-11 Thread Rick Harnish
So she did have fingers  How about teeth?  :)

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather

LOL  Yeah, we get a LOT of calls that the office gals cant fix.  I'll ask if

the customers have already rebooted etc.  They'll say yes.

So I'll go through the routine of having the customer power cycle 
everything.  OK, did you pull out the power plug for the little white box 
with a green light on it?  Customer:  Yeah, I just did that but I'll do it

again.

Next thing you know it's all working fine.  The girls HATE it when that 
happens.  Customers just say yes to everything.  If they'd just give 
accurate answers we could be so much more helpful and get things done much 
faster!

As for weather, I spent about 14 hours on Tuesday doing repair work from a 
couple of storms over the weekend.  Power supplies, routers, ethernet 
adapters etc.  A couple of radios.  The strangest was when a radio power 
supply would blow and the ethernet adapter in the computer would blow, but 
nothing would happen to the router that was in the middle.  Go figure.  The 
blown ethernet was 100% HP or Dell on board ethernet adapters.  I've seen 
quite a few of the Dell's go.

Fortunately none of the failures was my gear.  Knock on wood.

I was down there with my bucket truck for part of one of them.  In the day 
the lightning would light things up and we could hear the thunder inside the

truck at 60mph.  Amazing stuff.

One lady that I talked to said she'd lived in the area since the 60's and 
could count on one hand the number of worse storms that she's seen. 
Probably with fingers left over.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 yeesh...  I had a guy call today.  Asked him to reboot his computer.  He
 said that he did.  When we asked him are you sure you rebooted your
 computer, he asked how to I do that?.

 This business would be great if it weren't for the customers, sometimes. 
 ;)

 Mark Nash
 UnwiredWest
 78 Centennial Loop
 Suite E
 Eugene, OR 97401
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 http://www.unwiredwest.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:30 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather


 This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other
 day.



 The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he
 called it Dark Internet asked what he meant.  He said he only has 
 Internet
 when it is dark out.  Well, this call was made during the day and
 obviously
 his Internet was not working at the time.  The technician could not see
 the
 client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE.
 The
 customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the
 POE.  While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am
 doing,
 I need to turn on the lights.  Miraculously, when he turned on the light
 switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working
 again.



 Imagine that!



 Rick Harnish



 From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM
 To: Motorola Canopy User Group
 Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather



 This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago.  Some of
 the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they 
 are
 too wet.  That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to
 where
 it will be too late to plant anything in those fields.  Not the usual
 crops
 of field or soybeans.  They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas.  I
 guess they could always plant hay.  Our biggest business customer is a
 fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be 
 like,
 if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a 
 couple
 days then they can't handle all the orders.  They do all the custom
 fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server.  I was just 
 out
 to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I
 finally
 had to put a switch inbetween.  Not a negotiation problem, just plain
 strange.



 Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring.  The last
 few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning 
 storm
 at Christmas time.  We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked
 up
 silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn.



 The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old
 Tranzeo radio.



 I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the
 month
 of March, they have been back 

Re: [WISPA] new water tank

2009-06-11 Thread RickG
10-4. Thanks!

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Jerry
Richardsonjrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 Pretty much anything you could need is here:
 http://www.tessco.com/products/productHierarchy.do?subtabId=132

 Specifically:
 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=482468eventPag
 e=1




 __
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 airCloud Communications

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:04 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] new water tank

 I'm preparing  to deploy on a new water tank. The water company provided
 4 antenna masts. Unfortunately, the masts are 3.5 which is slightly
 larger than normal antenna mounts.  I've thought about mounting 2.5
 mast horizontally but not sure where to find cross brackets. any ideas?
 -RickG


 
 
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[WISPA] Outdoor Rack Mount Enclosures

2009-06-11 Thread cj sattler

What are people using for outdoor enclosures at tower/roof locations?

I had a ton of nice ones that work perfect from a company we purchased but they 
are all now used up.

What i need is to mount a 1u layer 3 switch, a lot of power injectors and a 1u 
automatic transfer switch PDU

Preferably, i'd like to mount it on a wall but i could put it on bricks on the 
floor if needed.

It needs to have fans and some air flow, but no AC or heater.

I can find some for 2-15k, but would like to find something cheaper.

What are all of you using?

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread Blake Bowers
So you had to replace the cord?

I know if it was my site the shotgun pellets would
have blown right through the cord...


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support


shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
the cord which was now unplugged!
-RickG




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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread RickG
Heh, I went back to the van to get my glow rod and by the time I got
back he was gone. Now last year one of my tower sites had wires chewed
on by opossums. On a trip out there I came across the varmint near the
tower and did have my shotgun - blew him across the property. What do
they like about cables anyways?
-RickG

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Blake Bowersbbow...@mozarks.com wrote:
 So you had to replace the cord?

 I know if it was my site the shotgun pellets would
 have blown right through the cord...


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support


 shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
 down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
 the cord which was now unplugged!
 -RickG



 
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[WISPA] DOCSIS resources

2009-06-11 Thread Rogelio
Several upcoming large Wi-Fi deployments are going to get their power 
and egress connection DOCSIS strand, and I unfortunately know very 
little about that medium.

Can anyone recommend me any good resources for getting up to speed, 
particularly on DOCSIS 3.0?

Right now, I'm just looking through the books at Amazon and trying to 
find the best one to start with

http://tinyurl.com/mrgdvl

Any other websites or professional associations would be greatly 
appreciated.



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Re: [WISPA] DOCSIS resources

2009-06-11 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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Behalf Of Rogelio
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:51 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] DOCSIS resources

Several upcoming large Wi-Fi deployments are going to get their power 
and egress connection DOCSIS strand, and I unfortunately know very 
little about that medium.

Can anyone recommend me any good resources for getting up to speed, 
particularly on DOCSIS 3.0?

Right now, I'm just looking through the books at Amazon and trying to 
find the best one to start with

http://tinyurl.com/mrgdvl

Any other websites or professional associations would be greatly 
appreciated.




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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Either because of the warmth or they think it's food.  That's all animals
worry about - food, shelter and reproduction.

Silly humans worry about innernets n stuf =þ

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improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:55 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heh, I went back to the van to get my glow rod and by the time I got
 back he was gone. Now last year one of my tower sites had wires chewed
 on by opossums. On a trip out there I came across the varmint near the
 tower and did have my shotgun - blew him across the property. What do
 they like about cables anyways?
 -RickG

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Blake Bowersbbow...@mozarks.com wrote:
  So you had to replace the cord?
 
  I know if it was my site the shotgun pellets would
  have blown right through the cord...
 
 
  Don't take your organs to heaven,
  heaven knows we need them down here!
  Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support
 
 
  shelf where the equipment is which had no lights - so next I looked
  down at the  power plug and saw a rather large snake wrapped around
  the cord which was now unplugged!
  -RickG
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Rack Mount Enclosures

2009-06-11 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
These are great, you'll never have a problem with anything getting in them.

http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=361100WT.mc_id=etb
gen



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Behalf Of cj sattler
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:57 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor Rack Mount Enclosures


What are people using for outdoor enclosures at tower/roof locations?

I had a ton of nice ones that work perfect from a company we purchased but
they are all now used up.

What i need is to mount a 1u layer 3 switch, a lot of power injectors and a
1u automatic transfer switch PDU

Preferably, i'd like to mount it on a wall but i could put it on bricks on
the floor if needed.

It needs to have fans and some air flow, but no AC or heater.

I can find some for 2-15k, but would like to find something cheaper.

What are all of you using?

thanks
cj

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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Rack Mount Enclosures

2009-06-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I have a couple from Purcell.  They aren't cheap but are very nice.  As an 
added bonus the factory is only about a 1.5 hour drive from here.  I can go 
pitch a fit in person if anyone needs it :-).

Ask them about seconds.  Sometimes they make enclosures for people that 
cancel or don't like them etc.   Purcell then has boxes that they just want 
to dump.  I've gotten $600 boxes for $150 just so they didn't have to toss 
them.

laters,
marlon

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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor Rack Mount Enclosures



What are people using for outdoor enclosures at tower/roof locations?

I had a ton of nice ones that work perfect from a company we purchased but 
they are all now used up.

What i need is to mount a 1u layer 3 switch, a lot of power injectors and a 
1u automatic transfer switch PDU

Preferably, i'd like to mount it on a wall but i could put it on bricks on 
the floor if needed.

It needs to have fans and some air flow, but no AC or heater.

I can find some for 2-15k, but would like to find something cheaper.

What are all of you using?

thanks
cj

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Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support

2009-06-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Ask the rabbits that keep eating the spark plug and o2 sensor wires on my 
cars!  sigh

Marlon

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support


Heh, I went back to the van to get my glow rod and by the time I got
back he was gone. Now last year one of my tower sites had wires chewed
on by opossums. On a trip out there I came across the varmint near the
tower and did have my shotgun - blew him across the property. What do
they like about cables anyways?
-RickG





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[WISPA] CVI (and other federal clearances) for various wireless projects

2009-06-11 Thread Rogelio
I'm working with ADT on some wireless projects, and in addition to TWIC, 
they told me I need to get this CVI thing for some of the port projects 
we're doing

http://www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/programs/gc_1185556876884.shtm

I'm curious if anyone else here has had to do this for any wireless 
opportunity.

(It's an easy thing to qualify for.  Just read through the training 
[about 30 page clicks], answer like 7 questions, put in your contact 
info, and you get an email with your CVI number.)

On a side note, what other certs / clearances / passes are relevant in 
the federal space?  I'm relatively new to working with the government, 
and am surprised at these various obstacles, which others seem to take 
for granted. :b



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