Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
We have been on the pay-for Zimbra solution for a couple of years now and are very happy with it. It's stable, offers a very nice web interface, and the upgrade to the collaboration product is above and beyond anything I've used before, including an Outlook/Exchange environment. The search capabilities are also much advanced to other solutions I've seen. It makes organizing and finding emails in a *many Gb* mailbox very easy. Dylan -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server Anyone using Zimbra Open Source Edition as an email server? Feedback? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RB-411AH being really Weird
Mikrotik Gurus please Read and give advice sorry for the length of this. I have a tower that has been very weird for me The night before Thanksgiving we had a huge storm. There was very little lightening but +2 of rain. At 6:00 am Thanksgiving day the whole tower crashed. I have AC run to the top, a Allen Bradley power supply converts to dc and powers the 8 devices I have at the top all of them Mikrotik but one UBNT. The Allen Bradley Power supply had died Completely. I had a Climber replace the 12 Volt Allen Bradley with a 24 Volt since all the equipment could handle the 24 volts. Everything came back up and life was good. For 6 hours. Then the 3- RB411AH /XR2 sectors just started rebooting over and over again. Then they went off completely but everything else on the tower was fine. I personally climbed the tower a day later and found that the 24V power supply was putting out 36 volts and the Over Voltage protection on the 411's were turning them off. I replaced the Power Supply to a 12 volt turned up to 18Volt and immediately everyth ing was fine. For 1 week. All the sudden one morning I got pages saying 1 of the sectors was down again so I started watching it and It would be up for 3 min then reboot itself I checked Routing and Watchdog all were fine, just to be sure I turned watch dog off. Then all the sudden It stayed up. 30 min later sector 2 started going up and down. After 15 min of that they all stabilized. They have been up for 8 days now. This morning I woke up and had one of them completely down and one of the others have been going up and down. I was sending a tech out to reset the tower when the Sector that had been down for 5 hours for some reason rebooted itself and has worked ever since and just now the 2nd sector stabilized as well. I am going to run new wires to the Sectors and replace all the 411s and xr2s. I am afraid this will not resolve the issue. I have already replaced the POE's and APCs as well. All running ROS 4.11. It has been terrible weather here so I am limping as best I can till it is safer for the climb. Any other ideas. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB-411AH being really Weird
Ethernet no errors. Ferrites on all Ethernets. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB-411AH being really Weird Do the ethernet ports show any errors? Do you use ferrites on the cat5 cables? -original message- Subject: [WISPA] RB-411AH being really Weird From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Date: 14/12/2010 1:56 pm Mikrotik Gurus please Read and give advice sorry for the length of this. I have a tower that has been very weird for me The night before Thanksgiving we had a huge storm. There was very little lightening but +2 of rain. At 6:00 am Thanksgiving day the whole tower crashed. I have AC run to the top, a Allen Bradley power supply converts to dc and powers the 8 devices I have at the top all of them Mikrotik but one UBNT. The Allen Bradley Power supply had died Completely. I had a Climber replace the 12 Volt Allen Bradley with a 24 Volt since all the equipment could handle the 24 volts. Everything came back up and life was good. For 6 hours. Then the 3- RB411AH /XR2 sectors just started rebooting over and over again. Then they went off completely but everything else on the tower was fine. I personally climbed the tower a day later and found that the 24V power supply was putting out 36 volts and the Over Voltage protection on the 411's were turning them off. I replaced the Power Supply to a 12 volt turned up to 18Volt and immediately everyth ing was fine. For 1 week. All the sudden one morning I got pages saying 1 of the sectors was down again so I started watching it and It would be up for 3 min then reboot itself I checked Routing and Watchdog all were fine, just to be sure I turned watch dog off. Then all the sudden It stayed up. 30 min later sector 2 started going up and down. After 15 min of that they all stabilized. They have been up for 8 days now. This morning I woke up and had one of them completely down and one of the others have been going up and down. I was sending a tech out to reset the tower when the Sector that had been down for 5 hours for some reason rebooted itself and has worked ever since and just now the 2nd sector stabilized as well. I am going to run new wires to the Sectors and replace all the 411s and xr2s. I am afraid this will not resolve the issue. I have already replaced the POE's and APCs as well. All running ROS 4.11. It has been terrible weather here so I am limping as best I can till it is safer for the climb. Any other ideas. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] We ARE being noticed!
2M signatures, tons of comments at FCC ahead of net neutrality vote December 14 2010 - 12:28 pm ET | Tracy Ford | RCR Wireless News The Federal Communications Commission is getting deluged with comments before it gets ready to vote on proposed rules to regulate the Internet, including rules that would govern wireless broadband. Among the groups filing is an organization called SavetheInternet.com, which promises to hand deliver 2 million signatures to the FCC. The group, backed by Free Press, said it represents more than 850 groups from across the political spectrum. We represent people from every walk of life, and don't take a penny of corporate money to do this work. Our goal is to give Internet users a seat at the table, a voice in Washington when it comes to protecting our vital right to access an open Internet. .Net Neutrality issue isn't merely an issue to be decided among corporate Titans, their lobbyists and Beltway insiders. It pits the special interests of the few (phone and cable companies) against a vast and authentic grassroots effort involving Americans of every stripe. On the other hand, Mobile Future said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski's proposal is reasonable. Given the vibrantly competitive wireless marketplace and the real and relevant differences between wireline and wireless networks, Mobile Future continues to believe that Commission regulation of wireless broadband Internet access is inappropriate. That said, Mobile Future is supportive of Chairman Julius Genachowski's plan to move ahead with rules patterned after the compromise legislation proposed by Representatives Henry Waxman and Rick Boucher, i.e., the Open Internet Act of 2010.2 Compared to the more inflexible net neutrality proposals being advocated by some for wireless services, the Chairman's proposed reasonable approach would be more consistent with spurring investment and innovation to bring the benefits of wireless broadband services to all Americans. Dish Networks said it called FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn to discuss the issue. Dish expressed its support for strong open Internet rules, and provided several examples from the record of wireless applications that potentially could be blocked under the proposed wireless blocking rule reported to be under consideration for adoption at the upcoming commission open meeting. One issue that hasn't received much media attention is how fixed wireless broadband providers would be treated under the proposal. Netwurx provides fixed wireless broadband service in rural Southeastern Wisconsin using unlicensed spectrum. Netwurx is concerned that certain Network Neutrality rules, if adopted, would severely and adversely affect our ability to continue to provide our customers with affordable fixed wireless broadband services. It is our understanding that although mobile broadband will have a special set of rules, fixed wireless broadband will be lumped in with traditional wired services and be subject to a stricter set of rules. We feel that the network neutrality rules imposed on fixed wireless broadband should be no more rigid than the rules that will apply to mobile wireless broadband providers. The physics of wireless technology and delivery necessitate a relaxed set of rules for all wireless technologies. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Pacific Wireless Radome availability in Europe
Hi all maybe somebody can point me out a reseller/distributor in Europe that has some of: HGR-06 600mm Diameter Radome Cover for Parabolic Dish Antenna any hint appreciated Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm deploying it into an OpenVZ container today. I saw folks online get it to work (once they adjusted several quotas). I will see if it works. :) On 12/13/2010 06:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Doesn't work worth a darn in OpenVZ or KVM virtual environments. Still working on migrating containers around to free up a physical server to try VMWare. Should work on that as VMWare owns Zimbra. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNB7P2AAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtXTMQAJ0wuIOlgWcDPjedpZlskSVu Mao9FlTbpV+EQOkjcyLkvAb2bdVCHHv7beethz6q+xjDp4SUJT6ksKaFIHfY+hTN 23/9W4GyFXbpz7N49MvTLt+YXXHB1rcrdSnukPKRWB6bGCBb7goAcVZWy0VQiHvv 4o/TZNHsaYtLFl2yE+4OB/1yW8T666Jz89onqffuu9CaWqV8xYaZsukVBY47uWBK b3L/H4wnWcNvm/8Uoa5uCWoWnmPpIcHyQec8H8BSNcDYwRnQX0imF8vXMKp93t2y lr8HbECp6npQ01rJ/9m705S4PVN5x2JTb/tqVubmvR5cjBcI+rKdWn6PLM1j9meJ diWAkuEHHWSYaigSjujzzdVVP8qr1FxmYwaZ8M2wd2C9UJhX02CdDbNmwwzwJCV3 JshNT1yjRTh6tesDS/yiJW1Apq8bY6rZ8b+z04o48foSHlfFp2JPMS301/7aFQgP /1LDqGIFQoWnBYdbq1z2feu4BvV1oQ2xEwlZLl8NTOJ2xu8L7w+o9Ma9xsNsrdk6 r+BjdvScrgZYenQDOUqenFRto9o3OA2QI1uTQahcUSuXpEffBexyPjHN2IupucxY FHHQ1Aj/5yokbEIaz4SDgpJY0xkkAQA9Tg2wG4A2Sngefuy8Avw9AAwhVMJ9Ok1m SLxDsgK92RMSaV12Ha/r =W4TG -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pacific Wireless Radome availability in Europe
Paolo, That is a L-com part number and is stocked here in the US. We can ship from here if you would like. I will see what partners are available in or around Italy. Best regards, Mike Goicoechea VP of Operations Cielo Systems International 806-977-9001 ext 101 806-763-1945 fax Skype Mike.Goik m...@cielosystems.net Wispa Vendor Member -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Pacific Wireless Radome availability in Europe Hi all maybe somebody can point me out a reseller/distributor in Europe that has some of: HGR-06 600mm Diameter Radome Cover for Parabolic Dish Antenna any hint appreciated Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
Well, I kinda got it to work after massaging a lot of Java settings, but I didn't want to have something in production that required that much massaging to work correctly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/14/2010 12:14 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm deploying it into an OpenVZ container today. I saw folks online get it to work (once they adjusted several quotas). I will see if it works. :) On 12/13/2010 06:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Doesn't work worth a darn in OpenVZ or KVM virtual environments. Still working on migrating containers around to free up a physical server to try VMWare. Should work on that as VMWare owns Zimbra. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNB7P2AAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtXTMQAJ0wuIOlgWcDPjedpZlskSVu Mao9FlTbpV+EQOkjcyLkvAb2bdVCHHv7beethz6q+xjDp4SUJT6ksKaFIHfY+hTN 23/9W4GyFXbpz7N49MvTLt+YXXHB1rcrdSnukPKRWB6bGCBb7goAcVZWy0VQiHvv 4o/TZNHsaYtLFl2yE+4OB/1yW8T666Jz89onqffuu9CaWqV8xYaZsukVBY47uWBK b3L/H4wnWcNvm/8Uoa5uCWoWnmPpIcHyQec8H8BSNcDYwRnQX0imF8vXMKp93t2y lr8HbECp6npQ01rJ/9m705S4PVN5x2JTb/tqVubmvR5cjBcI+rKdWn6PLM1j9meJ diWAkuEHHWSYaigSjujzzdVVP8qr1FxmYwaZ8M2wd2C9UJhX02CdDbNmwwzwJCV3 JshNT1yjRTh6tesDS/yiJW1Apq8bY6rZ8b+z04o48foSHlfFp2JPMS301/7aFQgP /1LDqGIFQoWnBYdbq1z2feu4BvV1oQ2xEwlZLl8NTOJ2xu8L7w+o9Ma9xsNsrdk6 r+BjdvScrgZYenQDOUqenFRto9o3OA2QI1uTQahcUSuXpEffBexyPjHN2IupucxY FHHQ1Aj/5yokbEIaz4SDgpJY0xkkAQA9Tg2wG4A2Sngefuy8Avw9AAwhVMJ9Ok1m SLxDsgK92RMSaV12Ha/r =W4TG -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] We ARE being noticed!
Oh wow. They quoted my filing of the WISPA letter. :-) On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: 2M signatures, tons of comments at FCC ahead of net neutrality vote December 14 2010 - 12:28 pm ET | Tracy Ford | RCR Wireless News The Federal Communications Commission is getting deluged with comments before it gets ready to vote on proposed rules to regulate the Internet, including rules that would govern wireless broadband. Among the groups filing is an organization called SavetheInternet.com, which promises to hand deliver 2 million signatures to the FCC. The group, backed by Free Press, said it represents more than 850 groups from across the political spectrum. “We represent people from every walk of life, and don’t take a penny of corporate money to do this work. Our goal is to give Internet users a seat at the table, a voice in Washington when it comes to protecting our vital right to access an open Internet. …Net Neutrality issue isn’t merely an issue to be decided among corporate Titans, their lobbyists and Beltway insiders. It pits the special interests of the few (phone and cable companies) against a vast and authentic grassroots effort involving Americans of every stripe.” On the other hand, Mobile Future said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski’s proposal is reasonable. “Given the vibrantly competitive wireless marketplace and the “real and relevant differences” between wireline and wireless networks, Mobile Future continues to believe that Commission regulation of wireless broadband Internet access is inappropriate. That said, Mobile Future is supportive of Chairman Julius Genachowski’s plan to move ahead with rules patterned after the compromise legislation proposed by Representatives Henry Waxman and Rick Boucher, i.e., the Open Internet Act of 2010.2 Compared to the more inflexible net neutrality proposals being advocated by some for wireless services, the Chairman’s proposed reasonable approach would be more consistent with spurring investment and innovation to bring the benefits of wireless broadband services to all Americans.” Dish Networks said it called FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn to discuss the issue. “Dish expressed its support for strong open Internet rules, and provided several examples from the record of wireless applications that potentially could be blocked under the proposed wireless blocking rule reported to be under consideration for adoption at the upcoming commission open meeting.” One issue that hasn’t received much media attention is how fixed wireless broadband providers would be treated under the proposal. Netwurx provides fixed wireless broadband service in rural Southeastern Wisconsin using unlicensed spectrum. “Netwurx is concerned that certain Network Neutrality rules, if adopted, would severely and adversely affect our ability to continue to provide our customers with affordable fixed wireless broadband services. It is our understanding that although mobile broadband will have a special set of rules, fixed wireless broadband will be lumped in with traditional wired services and be subject to a stricter set of rules. We feel that the network neutrality rules imposed on fixed wireless broadband should be no more rigid than the rules that will apply to mobile wireless broadband providers. The physics of wireless technology and delivery necessitate a relaxed set of rules for all wireless technologies.” Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ONE HOUR LEFT!!!!
Have you protected your business yet today. If not, don't do anything else today until you file your Open Internet letter. If you don't, everything else may be moot anyways. This is my last post of encouragement. I bet you are all tired of hearing it. TOPIC: Treatment of Fixed Wireless Broadband in Open Internet Decision to be made at the FCC Commission Meeting on Dec. 21st, 2010. DEADLINE: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 5:30 PM EST IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH All WISPs and WISP Vendors, Friday I sent out an announcement of a critical decision that is tentatively scheduled to be made at the December 21st FCC Commission meeting which may severely impact your business and its future. WISPA filed its Ex Parte comments on Friday, which I have attached. Doc121010-013.pdf. Below, is an excerpt of commentary made by Steve Coran, WISPA's telecommunication attorney about this Open Internet proposal. As you may be aware, at the December 21 meeting, FCC Chairman Genachowski intends to put to full Commission vote his proposed Open Internet (net neutrality) rules. This means that all communications with Commission decision-makers must be completed by 5:00 PM ET on Tuesday, December 14. The Chairman has Commissioner Clyburn's vote, and will not get Commissioners Baker and McDowell on board. Commissioner Copps would prefer more stringent Title II regulation and may hold out for some concessions, but at the end of the day its widely believed he will sign on to the rules, yielding a 3-2 vote along party lines. Republican House members have already indicated that an FCC vote in favor of Open Internet rules would exceed the FCC's authority and be subject to legislation and political fall-out. From recent press reports and the Chairman's statements, and of relevance to WISPA, we understand the proposed rules will create two separate regulatory regimes, one for fixed and one for mobile. Mobile wireless broadband providers will be subject to less stringent requirements, while fixed wireless will be included in the more heavily regulated class of broadband providers. On the other hand, the Chairman has indicated that he will allow pay-as-you-go or usage-based billing. Not sure about any caps or constraints, but at least on this point the Chairman is open to innovative billing models. As we did during the TV Whitespaces proceedings, we have taken the time to write a template letter that we encourage ALL WISPs and our partner vendors to file. The deadline is Tuesday, December 14th at 5:30 pm EST. Feel free to customize this letter, also attached to personalize it to your specific company demographics. Any text in Red should be replaced by company specific information. This campaign is extremely important and has a very short window of opportunity for each of you to respond by. Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file and upload it at the following website. http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc. If you choose not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the Express filing method at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd. The proceeding number ET Docket Nos. 09-191 and WC Docket No. 07-52. You can add the second Proceeding Number by clicking Add Proceeding. I would like to thank Doug Clark, Jack Unger and Steve Coran for their assistance in editing and refining this letter template. If you do not care for the tone of this letter, please feel free to write your own. I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company to do. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ONE HOUR LEFT!!!!
I just filed Filing with confirmation #20101214466539 Tom Fadgen Coastinet.com _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:03 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List'; motor...@afmug.com Subject: [WISPA] ONE HOUR LEFT Importance: High Have you protected your business yet today. If not, don't do anything else today until you file your Open Internet letter. If you don't, everything else may be moot anyways. This is my last post of encouragement. I bet you are all tired of hearing it. TOPIC: Treatment of Fixed Wireless Broadband in Open Internet Decision to be made at the FCC Commission Meeting on Dec. 21st, 2010. DEADLINE: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 5:30 PM EST IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH All WISPs and WISP Vendors, Friday I sent out an announcement of a critical decision that is tentatively scheduled to be made at the December 21st FCC Commission meeting which may severely impact your business and its future. WISPA filed its Ex Parte comments on Friday, which I have attached. Doc121010-013.pdf. Below, is an excerpt of commentary made by Steve Coran, WISPA's telecommunication attorney about this Open Internet proposal. As you may be aware, at the December 21 meeting, FCC Chairman Genachowski intends to put to full Commission vote his proposed Open Internet (net neutrality) rules. This means that all communications with Commission decision-makers must be completed by 5:00 PM ET on Tuesday, December 14. The Chairman has Commissioner Clyburn's vote, and will not get Commissioners Baker and McDowell on board. Commissioner Copps would prefer more stringent Title II regulation and may hold out for some concessions, but at the end of the day its widely believed he will sign on to the rules, yielding a 3-2 vote along party lines. Republican House members have already indicated that an FCC vote in favor of Open Internet rules would exceed the FCC's authority and be subject to legislation and political fall-out. From recent press reports and the Chairman's statements, and of relevance to WISPA, we understand the proposed rules will create two separate regulatory regimes, one for fixed and one for mobile. Mobile wireless broadband providers will be subject to less stringent requirements, while fixed wireless will be included in the more heavily regulated class of broadband providers. On the other hand, the Chairman has indicated that he will allow pay-as-you-go or usage-based billing. Not sure about any caps or constraints, but at least on this point the Chairman is open to innovative billing models. As we did during the TV Whitespaces proceedings, we have taken the time to write a template letter that we encourage ALL WISPs and our partner vendors to file. The deadline is Tuesday, December 14th at 5:30 pm EST. Feel free to customize this letter, also attached to personalize it to your specific company demographics. Any text in Red should be replaced by company specific information. This campaign is extremely important and has a very short window of opportunity for each of you to respond by. Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file and upload it at the following website. http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc. If you choose not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the Express filing method at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd. The proceeding number ET Docket Nos. 09-191 and WC Docket No. 07-52. You can add the second Proceeding Number by clicking Add Proceeding. I would like to thank Doug Clark, Jack Unger and Steve Coran for their assistance in editing and refining this letter template. If you do not care for the tone of this letter, please feel free to write your own. I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company to do. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
We, too, have the complete suite and it has been absolutely wonderful . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server We have been on the pay-for Zimbra solution for a couple of years now and are very happy with it. It's stable, offers a very nice web interface, and the upgrade to the collaboration product is above and beyond anything I've used before, including an Outlook/Exchange environment. The search capabilities are also much advanced to other solutions I've seen. It makes organizing and finding emails in a *many Gb* mailbox very easy. Dylan -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server Anyone using Zimbra Open Source Edition as an email server? Feedback? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
We, too, have the complete suite and it has been absolutely wonderful . . . J o n a t h a n How many email accounts? Open Source version? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
I'll have to check...many hundreds, I guess. It's the paid-for collaboration suite. You get support, too. I use the OUTLOOK Connector and it's great. Every PC I've got is always exactly like every other PC I've got...all OUTLOOK folders, sent stuff, calendar, contacts, etc. When I get a new PC, it's automatically engorged with all my 25GB of stuff. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 3:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server We, too, have the complete suite and it has been absolutely wonderful . . . J o n a t h a n How many email accounts? Open Source version? -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] Network Neutrality Ex Parte Letter Template for Operators to file
At 12/14/2010 08:37 AM, RickH wrote: I appreciate you guys putting this all together so quickly. I filed mine but it would be a good idea if this call went out again with step by step instructions. TOPIC: Treatment of Fixed Wireless Broadband in Open Internet Decision to be made at the FCC Commission Meeting on Dec. 21st, 2010. DEADLINE: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 5:30 PM EST IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH Oh, foolish me. I thought you said 5:00 PM. I had 32 minutes to spare after filing! ;-) I guess I'm not an early bird. Since I'm not a WISP per se but do like to file in FCC proceedings, I threw this together. It basically says that ISPs per se, including all WISPs, should not be regulated, but that dominant wireline providers, like ILECs, should make wholesale facilities available, and that's the only neutrality required, or probably even likely to withstand judicial scrutiny. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 FCC-09-191-ExParte.doc Description: MS-Word document WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
I'll have to check...many hundreds, I guess. It's the paid-for collaboration suite. You get support, too. I use the OUTLOOK Connector and it's great. Every PC I've got is always exactly like every other PC I've got...all OUTLOOK folders, sent stuff, calendar, contacts, etc. When I get a new PC, it's automatically engorged with all my 25GB of stuff. Main purpose I am looking at is about 1500 email accounts for our user base. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Open Internet Campaign Update
It appears that our letter writing campaign including the WISPA filing totaled 114. There may be a few stragglers out there that haven't been publicized yet. I would like to thank all of those who took the time to do this the last few days. Some wrote some very detailed and excellent letters. To review, go to http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment_search/input?z=g8a9b and type in 09-191 to see all of the filings or 09-191 and the name of the filer if you want to read anyone in particular. You should all give yourself a pat on the back and feel good about the fact that you have voiced your opinion in the public record. For those of you that are a first time filer, it wasn't that hard was it? Now we need to send these letters to your Senators and Congressmen/Congresswomen before the December 21st hearing. It would also help to call their office and at a minimum discuss the letter with one of the staff and better yet, try to schedule a face to face meeting. Even if Chairman Genachowski gets this passed, there will most likely be Congressional action challenging the FCC Decision. It will be important that our legislative representatives understand the impact that regulation may have on millions of US Citizens Internet access. To lookup your House Representatives, go to https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml To lookup your Senator, go to http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm There were a few filings that were entered as Word Docs with track changes turned on. They appear in the federal record showing edits that were made to the template. To prevent that in the future, make a pdf of your document or print and scan it before sending. Although it isn't a big deal, it does enhance the professionalism of your filing if you make sure that edits are not evident. The only other mistake I saw made was some filers used WISPA or my name instead of their own. If you can't find your filing when you search for it, you may be one of those people. 1. WISPA 2. Northern Neck Wireless 3. St. Louis Broadband 4. New Ways Wireless 5. OregonFast 6. Zig Wireless - Steve Narducci 7. Northwest Ohio 8. Kentucky WiFi 9. Omnicity 10. Cache Broadband 11. Imagine Networks 12. Txox Communications 13. Sitco Wireless Internet 14. Zig Wireless - Justin Wilson 15. Boonlink 16. Endless Journey 17. Eastern Indiana WIFI 18. CSWEB 19. Blast Communications 20. Crescomm Services 21. ECSIS 22. PCS-WIN dba RCWIFI 23. CMS Internet 24. Southern California Telephone Co. 25. Premium Choice Broadband 26. Alluretech/CoffeyNet 27. Tincans.Net 28. Murcevilo Software dba WISPMON 29. Western WiMax 30. MidwayNet.Net 31. Wireless Data Net, LLC 32. Shelby Broadband 33. E-Vergent Wireless 34. Antelecom, Inc. 35. Just Micro Digital Services, Inc. 36. PriceNET Wireless 37. TRAIN 38. Wisper Wireless Solutions, Inc. 39. Fourway.Net 40. Netwurx 41. CV-Access, Inc. 42. Corn Belt Wireless, Inc. 43. Stewart Computer Services 44. 101Netlink 45. OnlineNW 46. Mt. Vernon.Net, Inc. 47. Jag Wireless 48. Eduro Networks, Inc. 49. Comspeco.Net 50. Cloud Alliance 51. Advanced Automation, LLC. 52. Bertram Communications 53. Alex Goldman 54. Avolve 55. PowerONe 56. Portative Technologies, LLC 57. Great American Broadband 58. Mountain Wireless, LLC 59. InvisiMax, Inc. 60. JCWiFi 61. WaveLinc 62. Internet Communications, Inc. 63. Zirkel Wireless, LLC 64. BPS Networks 65. Indian Creek Internet Services, Inc. 66. Excel.Net 67. Air Advantage, LLC 68. iWispr 69. Triton Communications 70. Home Town Network, Inc. 71. Sandhills Wireless, LLC 72. Hudson Valley Wireless 73. Wireless Media Technologies, LLC 74. BlueGrass.Net 75. A Better Wireless, Inc. 76. Wyoming.com 77. Air Logic 78. Great Lakes Intenet 79. Cielo Systems 80. Vistabeam 81. California DSL 82. Fire2Wire 83. ADK Internet 84. PDMNet 85. Western Broadband 86. Mercury Wireless 87. Finally Broadband, LLC. 88. Stratuswave 89. Washington Broadband 90. Ionary Consulting 91. GoZoe Wireless 92. Xpressweb Internet Services, Inc. 93. JetWeb 94. Continental Computers 95. KWOM 96. Veloxinet 97. Cherry Capitol Connection 98. Nutel Broadband Corporation 99. Connext, LLC 100.Roadstar Internet, Inc. 101.NetSurfUSA, Inc. 102.Midcoast Internet Solutions 103.WIFI Midwest, Inc. 104.Spectra Access 105.Skynet Country 106.Peak Internet 107.Smarter Broadband 108.AIRbaud
Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server
I, as a user, can highly recommend it. If you'd like to dig deeper, I can put you in touch with our CTO who deals with them and configures it. There would appear to be nothing to crop the base to under 10s of thousands in my experience. It's a delight, however, I must tell you. The ability to take any mailbox back to any previous date is also amazing. It never ceases to amaze me. If you have a user that says Oh, my, I deleted all my folders by accident. Well, you have a life saver. Their mobile Web version is really cool, too. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Zimbra Email Server I'll have to check...many hundreds, I guess. It's the paid-for collaboration suite. You get support, too. I use the OUTLOOK Connector and it's great. Every PC I've got is always exactly like every other PC I've got...all OUTLOOK folders, sent stuff, calendar, contacts, etc. When I get a new PC, it's automatically engorged with all my 25GB of stuff. Main purpose I am looking at is about 1500 email accounts for our user base. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Appeals Court Holds that Email Privacy Protected by Fourth Amendment
In a landmark decision issued today https://www.eff.org/files/warshak_opinion_121410.pdf in the criminal appeal of U.S. v. Warshak https://www.eff.org/cases/warshak-v-united-sta , the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the government must have a search warrant before it can secretly seize and search emails stored by email service providers. Closely tracking arguments made by EFF in its amicus brief https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/Warshak_EFF_Amicus_Brief.pdf , the court found that email users have the same reasonable expectation of privacy in their stored email as they do in their phone calls and postal mail. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/breaking-news-eff-victory-appeals-cour t-holds -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Jumbo Frames
Is there any reason to enable Jumbo Frames? My RB1000 and Dell switches have the capabilities. Time Warner says they can enable it on my fiber switch if I want. -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Jumbo Frames
Greater throughput. On Dec 15, 2010 12:24 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any reason to enable Jumbo Frames? My RB1000 and Dell switches have the capabilities. Time Warner says they can enable it on my fiber switch if I want. -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] Network Neutrality Ex Parte Letter Template for Operators to file
Fred, Excellent Filing. The big risk is abuse of power by those with dominent market power, thus possibly the need for some targeted regulation. But I'm not aware of any WISPs that has scaled large enough to have dominent market power to the extent to become a risk to consumers or other providers. I asked for Fixed Wireless to be exempt from NetNeutrality restrictions simply because there is no market need to regulate a small provider. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] Network Neutrality Ex Parte Letter Template for Operators to file At 12/14/2010 08:37 AM, RickH wrote: I appreciate you guys putting this all together so quickly. I filed mine but it would be a good idea if this call went out again with step by step instructions. TOPIC: Treatment of Fixed Wireless Broadband in Open Internet Decision to be made at the FCC Commission Meeting on Dec. 21st, 2010. DEADLINE: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 5:30 PM EST IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH Oh, foolish me. I thought you said 5:00 PM. I had 32 minutes to spare after filing! ;-) I guess I'm not an early bird. Since I'm not a WISP per se but do like to file in FCC proceedings, I threw this together. It basically says that ISPs per se, including all WISPs, should not be regulated, but that dominant wireline providers, like ILECs, should make wholesale facilities available, and that's the only neutrality required, or probably even likely to withstand judicial scrutiny. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Broken Dragonwave
Yes, there are more cost effective alternatives to repair, if you have time. First, there is a third party company that will repair your modems or sell you refurbished modems for your IDUs. I ran into one not to long ago, unfortuantely I forget who it was off the top of my head. (But I'll try to find out) I'm assuming you have the Split archetecture models. What model do you have? I might have a resource for you. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: [WISPA] Broken Dragonwave We bought a used Dragonwave link, and it appears that both ends have broken radio modems. Dragonwave wants $2,000 to replace each modem card assembly, for a total of $4k. Does anyone know what that is, and if it is possible to repair without paying Dragonwave unholy amounts of cash? Thanks, Kevin -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions
Oldest trick in the book, attach a position to an ideological word that people cant disagree with. Who can disagree with freedom. Little does the public know they are supporting a position that could reduce freedom and possibly even destroy their freedom of choice, as they signon to positition that will reduce speeds, increase costs, reduce investment, and destroy small competitive providers. Freedom really means no regulation, so providers can have the freedom to build networks without unnecessary beurocracy and burdens. Freedom to allow people to build businesses based without strings attached. Ironically, Google is one of the largest advocates of NEtNEutrality but yet one of the largeset threats to freedom. NetNEutrality is best purposed to stop abuse of power by those with market power. I'd argue Google has majority market power beyond that of any single access provider. Google has more eyeballs and and steers Internet traffic more than any other entity. What would happen if we made a Save the Small Provider, the real Open Internet or Vote Content Neutrality not NetNeutrality for an Open Internet would it get a top indexing on search engines? Or would the Save the INternet Pro NetNEutrality get the top Indexing? Google has the power allow consumers to see the point of view of content providers, but to prevent their access to view Access provider's point of view. On a critical vote week like this week, Google has power to censor what consumers can find and have access to. What preventing Google from doing that right now, and compromising our Free country? What makes content providers a better steward of Freedom than Access providers? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Cameron Crum To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions I just sent ours in. Cameron On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: While normally an ally of WISPA, in this case Free Press is taking a position that is opposite WISPs feelings on this topic. This is a MAJOR reason while it is absolutely essential that ALL WISPs take the time to file by 5:00 PM tomorrow. I have attached the WISPA filing and a template to use. Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc file and upload it at the following website. http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc. If you choose not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the Express filing method at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd. The proceeding number ET Docket Nos. 09-191 and WC Docket No. 07-52. You can add the second Proceeding Number by clicking Add Proceeding. Free Press Floods FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions Group wants Commission to toughen up chairman's proposed compromise order By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting Cable, 12/13/2010 11:45:52 AM Free Press is killing some trees to try and save the Internet. Free Press says that SavetheInternet.com volunteers will be hand-delivering 2 million petitions to the FCC, with volunteers making the trek every hour on the hour until sometime Tuesday. Free Press wants the FCC to toughen up the chairman's proposed compromise order expanding and codifying its network openness rules. The order does not rely on reclassifying broadband access under some common carrier regs (Title II), allows for specialized services, and does not apply most of them to wireless broadband. The FCC is planning to vote on the order Dec. 21, which is still subject to edits and emendations as the commissioners vet the draft. Free Press calls the chairmen's proposal a toothless effort that give[s] just about everything to giant phone and cable companies, and leave[s] Internet users with almost nothing. That two million are not all in response to the compromise FCC proposal, but represent the names on a number of different petitions on net neutrality cirucluated over the past couple of years, according to Free Press' Craig Aaron. Copies of the different petitions are being attached to the appropriate list of names, approximately 50,000 per boxful, which are being delivered hourly to the commission through Tuesday. To monitor the progress of the data drop, go to marathon.savetheinternet.com Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/