Re: [WISPA] 900MHz Omni and gain

2006-11-07 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Brian,

No more then 8db in my playbook anymore. And horz. if at all possible.

Sectors on 900 is the best way to go too.

I got an Antel 11db with downtilt that I would sell if you really want a
vertical omni. Heavy duty antenna.

Barry

Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 8:20:28 AM, you wrote:

BR I looking for input on what vertical 900 omni to use.  I have heard 
BR statements from Marlon like I'd never use a 2.4 omni over such and such
BR gain., because of the beamwidth and such.  Anyway what are the 
BR opinions of the use of the 900 omni?  
BR http://www.pacwireless.com/products/omni_900mhz.shtml

BR Brian



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Re[2]: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-16 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello KyWiFi,

As someone who has many towers with 900 omni's ( and many years
supporting them), this combo ( SR9 plus mikrotik/starOS/whatever)  eliminates
the desire to ever deploy an omni again. IMHO.

Some of our most rural areas are so polluted in 900mhz, an omni just
doesn't cut it.

Mikrotik now needs GPS polling..

Barry


Friday, October 13, 2006, 11:00:21 AM, you wrote:

KL Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
KL it and I'm sure others do too!

KL Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
KL instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
KL is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
KL PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

KL TGIF.


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KL From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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KL Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
KL Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


KL Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
KL Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
KL While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
KL What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
KL about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
KL and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
KL always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
KL subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
KL or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
KL luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
KL locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
KL the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
KL way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
KL out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
KL needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
KL so much better.
KL Superior Wireless
KL New Orleans,La.
KL www.superior1.com

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Re[2]: [WISPA] Outage

2006-09-29 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello,

Squirrels are rats with fluffy tails and good PR firms...

Barry

Thursday, September 28, 2006, 6:16:12 PM, you wrote:

NW HaHa! Amazing. We had a similar issue where some possible rats (or could
NW have been squirrels, never found out for sure from them what it was) had
NW gotten in a customer's wall and bit through the cable, just not 
NW completely severing the wires. So the link was very flaky, in and out.
NW 75% out. Fixed it with some small PVC pipe through the wall.

NW Nick


NW Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 So, I'm working from home today.  The internet goes off.  Wireless 
 router fine...cannot access cpe.  The cpe cable runs down the chimney
 and I figured it rubbed through on the top.  I go up there and it is
 fine.  I go to basement and head for the cable (runs through 8x8 
 cleanout to chimney)  I go to grab the tarp that is wadded up and 
 stuffed in the hole and I hear this awful hissing and growling.  I 
 jumped back and about crapped my pants!  Long story shortit 2 hrs
 later and I now have a cap on the chimney and the GREY SQUIRREL ran
 towards the back woods (lucky bastard, I'm too close to town for the
 .22)  I was using a brick tied to a rope and I was throwing it down
 the chimney for an hour.  He decided to run when I tried to stab him
 with a piece of pvc I found in the basement.  Anyway, beware of them
 squirrels.

 Brian





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Re: [WISPA] A little help with Mikrotik

2006-09-20 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Mark,

15 miles!!   HAHAHAHA I wish I was so lucky. We are ecstatic if we
get 2 miles with 2.4Ghz.

We can hardly do 3 miles at times with 900mhz.

IIRC, 802.11 timed out at about 11 miles and StarOS had adjusted those
settings. Not sure what Mikrotik has done, although nstreme may
address that.

Barry

Wednesday, September 20, 2006, 2:22:32 PM, you wrote:

MK I use 11b mode for most of my clients.   I have 3 routerboard 112's in long
MK distance shots, and I'm sorely disappointed at the performance.   Compared
MK to Star-OS, the throughput is down about 40%.Two clients just one house
MK apart, and about 15 miles from the AP show dramatic performance differences.
MK The RSSI is the same for both, btw.   One, with compression and other
MK atheros features enabled will pass 1200KB of compressible data, around
MK 520-540KB of non-compressible data.   Right next door, the best I can
MK achieve through the RB112 is around 350KB.   I see this dramatic deficit in
MK ALL my MT installs, in that none of them which are over 15 miles will come
MK anywhere near the throughput of the WRAP / Star-OS client.  All are CM9
MK radios.

MK I've looked through everything I can find, and checked the compression box
MK in the appropriate place (using winbox) but the performance is about the
MK same as my compex  boards's original firmware, which i judged to be
MK inadequate.

MK Am I missing something?   Is this just a setting problem or ???

MK Any help appreciated.


MK +++
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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Company President Indicted on Federal Fraud Charges

2006-09-18 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello George,

WOW!   I helped Steve get through the USDA Broadband program when
we got approved in the broadband pilot program.

Barry

Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:25:55 AM, you wrote:

GR defrauding the U.S. Department of Agriculture of more than $1.6 million
GR in connection with a $4.2 million loan related to the expansion of
GR wireless broadband service to rural Minnesota.

GR http://communitydispatch.com/artman/publish/article_6420.shtml
GR -- 
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Re[2]: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi

2006-09-01 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Brian,

Heh, that's normal for verizon in my area.  Many times the carrier
will drop tower power as they bring a new site online, might be what
is happening.

Barry

Thursday, August 31, 2006, 2:59:50 PM, you wrote:

BR No kidding.  In the last month my Nextel went from 4 bars in all places
BR to 0-1 bar at most times now.  Something bad is going on.  And I am way
BR out in the sticks.  Should be less interference.

BR Brian Rohrbacher

BR Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

 Brian,

 I'm sure that there are a lot of upgrades going on in urban areas, but
 it will take a while before they hit many rural markets.  In the 
 meantime, all these folks that are going to try downloading videos and
 music to their phones will put exponentially higher loads on the 
 cellular data networks.   Even with the advantages of licensed 
 spectrum and cleaner noise floors, you are still talking about the 
 disadvantages of having to maintain that data stream to a moving 
 target, roaming between towers through widely varying signal 
 conditions and low gain antennas on the customer side.  Fixed 
 applications don't have to deal with that at all, and it is possible
 to optimize signal strength to make it perform.  My former partner in
 Vistabeam is the operations manager for a cell carrier, and I get to
 hear about all the issues on their networks.  Suffice to say, they get
 to deal with a lot of the same problems we do, the problems are just a
 lot more expensive to fix.

 Hell, as far as I can tell the cellular guys are having problems just
 keeping voice operational on many of their networks!  Just as a few of
 the guys on this list that I call regularly (Mac, Scriv, Marlon) and
 ask them how many times my conversations with them get cut off because
 of crappy phone service.   They should get voice figured out before
 they try to deliver live video to a postage stamp screen on a cell phone.

 Matt Larsen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Brian Webster wrote:

 Matt,
 The cellular folks have been quietly improving their data network
 capability. Their biggest problem to date was the T1 backhauls from the
 tower sites. These were already loaded with voice traffic. In many
 markets
 there are aggressive programs underway to replace all the T1's with
 licensed
 microwave backhaul with much more bandwidth. Cellular has the 
 advantage of
 cleaner spectrum and lower noise floors. It has been proven that they
 can
 deliver over the air rates necessary, once they fix the backhaul 
 bottleneck
 they will be serious competitors. Remember they also get to leverage
 their
 already existing tower network. Sprint/Nextel even has the advantage
 of all
 that 2.5 GHz spectrum they just announced their WIMAX plans for.
 One of the major players for giving them wireless backhaul is 
 FiberTower
 who just merged with First Avenue Networks. This gives them instant
 access
 to a lot of spectrum all over the US. While this may not be good news to
 most of the folks on this list, there is an upside. The telcos are
 going to
 lose a lot of business from them dropping those expensive $1200 per
 month T1
 circuits to each and every tower site.that should effect some
 numbers for those guys.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster
 www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:44 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi


 Check back in with us in a year and let us know how that cell data card
 is working.  If you thought the oversubscription on dialup lines was
 bad, wait until more people get on the cellular data networks.  Talk
 about something that will not scale when the data hits it - wow.

 Matt Larsen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Brad Belton wrote:
  

 I wasn't going to pipe in on this topic, but George hit it square on
 the
 head: Cellular.

 Laptops are now available with built-in cellular data cards.  This
 trend
 will only continue as the cellular data rates continue to increase.  My
 Sprint data card pretty consistently pulls 500Kbps and can peak at
 nearly
 1.5Mbps.  This is far better than many WiFi hotspots I have 
 connected to
 

 and
  

 certainly better than any Muni-WiFi system I've seen.

 Pure coverage alone will give the cellular networks a huge advantage
 over
 any muni system.  I can guarantee you the next laptop I buy will have a
 cellular data card built-in.  grin

 Best,


 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:07 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi

 Tom DeReggi wrote:




 My arguement is that the biggest prospective client for use of a
 mobile
 network is the governement. If you give service to them free or 
 without
 financial contribution from them, its just plain stupid in my mind.

   

Re[2]: [WISPA] SR9 cards......

2006-04-04 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Travis,

Amen Brother Travis Trango's are good radios. I would also say Canopy fits 
too, but have no
experience in it. Blair you are welcome to come on up and see
our network, I'm in central Michigan north of Lansing. Hit me offlist
if you want.

Barry

Monday, April 3, 2006, 10:04:26 PM, you wrote:

TJ Hi,

TJ I currently have 20+ Trango 900mhz AP's with omni directional antennas
TJ that will push 2-3 miles NLOS without a problem. I think what you should
TJ have said was I can't find a cheap enough solution to do what I want
TJ instead of there is nothing available. With over 500 Trango 900mhz
TJ CPE's deployed, the product works well thru heavy trees. :)

TJ Travis
TJ Microserv

TJ Blair Davis wrote:

 Tony,

 I hope so.  However, I am running out of time.  Let me give you a 
 little background.

 I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county.  It is a
 mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell.  The TurboCell provides back haul and
 service for  long range clients, (3 miles), or for NLoS clients at
 short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (3 miles).
 This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth
 demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise 
 levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one 
 area we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell).

 I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell
 back hauls.  I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to 
 replace my TurboCell CPE's and AP's.  Netstream is my most likely 
 choice here as well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz
 as well.

 I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get
 thru a severe NLoS for a single user.  This was a very expensive 
 deployment and the average customer would not pay for it.  I tested
 several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the
 RF Linx UDC's..

 I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want 
 service.  They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home,
 but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire 
 subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the
 only reasonable option I can come up with.  None of the existing 
 900MHz systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and
 adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6
 60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total.  
 Netstream using SR9 cards seems tailor made for this.

 Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin
 testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin 
 deployment by the end of this month.  Now, it looks like I won't even
 be able to start testing until the end of May.  Even getting a pair of
 the cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the 
 eagerly waiting customers

 I am really getting up against the wall here.  My time is running out
 and I must find my answer soon.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Blair

 We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to
 make
 sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more 
 difficult
 then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait.

 Sincerely, Tony Morella
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Re[2]: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history

2006-04-03 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello John,

Any chance the 900 stuff will become similarly priced? Also, why not
package units in one box when buying in bulk? Would seem to be cheaper
to ship and less waste to group multiple orders in one box.


Barry

Monday, April 3, 2006, 12:33:39 PM, you wrote:

JS The connectorized 5830 AP (part number M5830S-AP-EXT) will be
JS available for shipment in about a week.  It is certified for use
JS with the 120 degree sector and omni from Pac Wireless as well as
JS the dual-pol 90 deg. sector from Radiowaves.  Stay tuned for info
JS on the Atlas AP.

JS John Seaman
JS Trango Broadband Wireless

JS -Original Message-
JS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JS Behalf Of Mark Nash
JS Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:30 AM
JS To: WISPA General List
JS Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history


JS Trango is clearly trying to get their product deployed before more
JS inexpensive WiMAX CPE hits the street.

JS - They announced their $149 CPE (in 30 packs), but must install M5830 AP as
JS a transition
JS - They announced a M5800 $300 rebate/tradein program for your old APs
JS - Don't know if they have announced yet but I have heard they will have a
JS connectorized M5830 AP so you don't have to purchase 6 AP's then replace
JS them

JS I don't have an idea of the timing on the Atlas AP.  That would be nice to
JS hear about...

JS Mark Nash
JS Network Engineer
JS UnwiredOnline.Net
JS 350 Holly Street
JS Junction City, OR 97448
JS http://www.uwol.net
JS 541-998-
JS 541-998-5599 fax

JS - Original Message - 
JS From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JS To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
JS Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:36 AM
JS Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history


 Thats one of the trade offs, 5800 is end of lifed :-(
 I don't mind retiring 5800AP in favor of next generation AP.
 What I mind is reitring 5800AP to replace it with a last generation
JS 5830AP,
 that most likely will need to be re-replaced shortly after by an OFDM AP.
 I still think the merit of accomplish a quality $150 CPE is amazing.
 But I'd wish they'd get the Atlas AP comming, so we can see if the M5580
JS is
 a usable or non usable OFDM product.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO- changes history


 I just wish the new units worked with the 5800 AP's...

 On 1/18/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened.
  It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have
JS been
  in
  shock.
 
  Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to
JS buy,
  before they shipped.
  This year, they just sent them, and I wasn't told the price.
  Was it sorta like a restaurant with no prices on the menu?
  Send us the gear to see how nice it is, and then tell us the big price
JS tag
  after we realized the advantages?
  Think about it, Like a Fox, but will be able to do up to 30 mbps, cross
  platform supported!
  They jsut released a Fox-D2 for the low price point model. The M5580 was
  likely going to have a bigger price tag, if I guessed.
  What was it going to be, $300, $400, $500?  When I heard $150 today, I
  able
  shxt myself. I was blown away. I never expected it.
 
  I remember three years ago, when everyone was talking about the 2 year
JS ROI
  on equipment, wishing that if they only had a $500 CPE! And one came,
  thanks
  Trango. And then some people started getting greety and pushing the
  limits,
  and said If we only had a $300 CPE. And sure enough it came. Thanks
  Trango.  (Also a few others like Tranzeo releasing 2.4Ghz for under
JS $150).
  Some jerks actually had the nerve to then say, if I only had a $150
  CPE!.
  It just plain got rediculously funny at that point. Then Like Emeral
JS would
  say BAM! Trango did it agin, $150.  This is truly a defining
  moment
  in history.  No NOT for a commodity WIFI product, not for a 2.4Ghz
  product.
  But for a Commercial Robust WISP product! Equivellent to what we easilly
  paid $500 for, less than a year ago.
 
  I was lucky to share an experience this past October at a Trango
JS meeting.
  After the reception, some of us stuck around to hang out. We were all
  dreaming about what we needed, to be more successful and sell more
JS radios.
  Then out of nowhere Z gets all serious and asks What If...we had a
JS $200
  CPE? We respond, how much quantity would that take? 5000, 10,000?
  Instantly, Travis is like, at that price I'd commit to 5000, 1000 at a
  time. Then I was like, I'd take 500. Etc, etc.  Then we all realized
JS we
  were dreaming and drinking way to much wine, and called it a night.
JS CPEs
  were still $400 at that time, ya know. God what a poker face! I thought
JS Z
  was kidding!  And the irony in it all, 

Re: [WISPA] 900b mhz omni

2006-01-26 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello ccooper,

Why go higher then 9db? The pattern will shrink to paper thin
figuratively speaking. We have wy better luck with 9db or less
at 900mhz.

Barry

Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 10:04:54 PM, you wrote:



cic Anybody know where i can find an H-pol 900 mhz omni w/ higer gain than 9Db?
cic thanks, 
cic chris



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Re[2]: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

2006-01-19 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Travis,

Well they do if the cover comes off..

:-)

Barry

Thursday, January 19, 2006, 10:01:18 AM, you wrote:

TJ No, they do not. I've asked for that exact thing since 2001 and original
TJ 5800 AP's. I've heard there may be something coming however... ;)

TJ Travis
TJ Microserv

TJ Blair Davis wrote:

 Anyone know if the Trango 5.8GHz ap's have an external antenna 
 connection?  out here, 60deg sectors on an ap are a bit small






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Re: [WISPA] Anyone here have business service in Peoria, IL?

2005-12-05 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Tony,

Duopolist-  good one. Had to think for a second on that one.

Barry

Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 5:59:12 PM, you wrote:

TW I wanted to see if anyone here could serve any of these 4 locations in
TW Peoria before I pass them to a duopolist.

TW http://tony3.com/locations.jpg

TW I'm looking for ~$100/mo ~1Mbps symmetric connectivity for each
TW location.  If you're close to these numbers let me know and I'll see
TW what I can do.  They probably will use 1GB/mo of bandwidth at any of
TW the locations, but there was some talk about remote video in the future.

TW Thanks,
TW Tony



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Re: [WISPA] MRTG

2005-09-21 Thread Barry at Mutual Data

Brian,

Look here, all in one package fairly straightforward install.
http://www.openxtra.co.uk/products/mrtg-xtra.php

Free version too!!!

Barry



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see XP anywhere in here 
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl


I'm asking, what specific thing do I download from there.  Someone 
hold my hand here.  :)  I don't have a clue.


Brian

Jory Privett wrote:

You need the active Perl instillation files. Apache is a web server. 
It is used so you can view the files made by MRTG over the internet.  
If you only care to view them on the one local PC then you don't need 
to worry about it.Yes  both will work on an XP Desktop.  That's where 
mine runs.
 
Jory Privett

WCCS

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*From:* Brian Rohrbacher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] MRTG

What do I need from here  
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl


and what is Apache?  Will it work on my XP desktop.  Thats all I
have to work with.

Jory Privett wrote:

That is all you need id you will use the Microsoft Web server. 
If you want you can download Apache http://www.apache.org and it

will work also.
 
Jory Privett

WCCS

- Original Message -
*From:* Brian Rohrbacher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:27 PM
*Subject:* [WISPA] MRTG

I need to get MRTG on my XP computer so I can graph usage. 
I don't know what to download.  I guess I need some
ActivePerl. 
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl 
I don't know what to get for XP.  And for MRTG, I downloaded
from here 
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/  I

downloaded this one,

[   ] MRTG-2.12.2.zip http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/mrtg-2.12.2.zip  19-Jun-2005 15:40  1.6M(5th from the top)   



Sodo I have the right MRTG, and what ActivePerl do I need?  Do I need anything else?  If so, what and where (be specific).  For now I just need to get everything downloaded I need.  
Then I can attempt to put it all together.



Brian
   



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Re[2]: [WISPA] FCC Slides that didn't make it in time to be used

2005-09-15 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Rich,

IIRC, Bob Moldeshel had mentioned ( years ago) that if OSHA sees the picture 
they can
track down and fine the person doing the violation. Not sure if that
is high on the list of things for OSHA to do, but why give them a
opportunity?

Also, we all need to practice safe climbing.

Barry

Thursday, September 15, 2005, 11:43:44 AM, you wrote:

r Good eye.  You never know who will take note, but I wouldn't be so sure that
r this would necessarily be noted by even the FCC.

r I'll never forget an scene I watched, even though it was 29 years ago (you
r just don't forget some things).  We were giving a live demonstration of new
r 2-way trunking radios to FCC and FCC staff members in DC.  We certainly had
r expectations that we were presenting to people who knew what we were talking
r about.  Yet when we invited the FCC  FCC staff members to try the radios
r themselves I saw an FCC staff member hold the mic in their hand up to their
r mouth and said hello, and then move the potato mic over to their ear to
r listen.

r But I agree with your suggestion.  You don't want an image with your name on
r it to give a wrong impression.  But I'd be surprised if anyone with the FCC
r would actually note the omission.  :-)

r Rich


r - Original Message - 
r From: Barry at Mutual Data [EMAIL PROTECTED]
r To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
r Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:21 AM
r Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Slides that didn't make it in time to be used


r Hello Rick,

r The last slide should be pulled as the climber is not using safety
r equipment. Not a good showing if we flaunt safety rules.

r Barry

r Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 6:48:53 PM, you wrote:




RH I sent these to Michael today at 12:30 pm. I haven?t had
RH much time to work on them but this is what I came up with. If
RH anyone wants to elaborate, add to, take away or finish this work,
RH it might be useful in another presentation in the near future.
RH Michael had a 12 pm eastern time deadline which I missed L.

RH

RH Rick Harnish

RH President

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RH 260-827-2482 Office

RH 260-307-4000 Cell

RH 260-918-4340 VoIP

RH www.oibw.net

RH [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RH

RH

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[WISPA] Can you believe it?

2005-09-13 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello,

Can anyone get these people to acknowledge what WISP's have done? Or
are we really the ugly stepchild??

Barry




This is from The Jeff Pulver Blog at:
http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/002817.html

September 09, 2005
VoIP: Proving to be Effective in Katrina Emergency

Special thanks to Jim Kohlenberger of the VON Coalition for maintaining the 
following list of stories.

According to Jim, This is a summary of some of the ways the IP Communications 
industry is responding to Katrina
(largely based on news stories and company releases). It turns out that the 
ability to set up VoIP services on the
fly, from any network, has proved to be critical in an emergency. The industry 
has stepped forward to help FEMA,
the Red Cross, and the Army communicate, to help connect the refugees in the 
astrodome, to help field calls for
telethons, to help first responders communicate, to help connect hospitals who 
are disconnected, and to help
utility workers working to restore services communicate with each other. It is 
quite an amazing story, and I know
it is just the beginning.

If there are other stories you are aware of and would like to see included in 
this growing summary, please send me
a paragraph, a news release, or any other background and I will share it with 
Jim. Also, please feel free to
include stories from bloggers where IP Communications has been used to help.

VoIP: Proving to be Effective in Katrina Emergency

IP based voice communications are playing a critical role in the aftermath of 
Hurricane Katrina. The unique
mobility and decentralized aspects of VoIP are being utilized by FEMA, 
hospitals, emergency responders, for
telethon call centers, and utility workers who are restoring service.

VoIP Delivers Free Calling for FEMA, 1,000 VoIP Lines in the AstroDome, and 
Phone Service For Refugees. ATT is
establishing IP-based calling centers where directed by the Federal Emergency 
Management Agency (FEMA) to give
evacuees and emergency workers access to free calling. The first of these 
centers is expected to be operational
within a week. In Houston, ATT is working with Avaya, Cisco Systems and SBC to 
establish a communications network
for refugees moved to the Astrodome. The coalition of VoIP companies will 
deliver local, long distance and Internet
service to refugees. More than 1,000 phone lines, as well as a data 
infra-structure, will be available near the
Astrodome. ATT’s IP infrastructure will make Houston the hub for a VoIP 
network to support refugee camps
throughout the region. (INFOWORLD, September 02, 2005)

VoIP Being Deployed By Mobile Command Center For Fire, Rescue and Law 
Enforcement Agencies. In an area of vast
devastation in Mississippi with no traditional phone lines, cell phone or 
public safety radio services, F4W has
established a VoIP network to provide critical communications for relief 
agencies and a lifeline from the disaster
area to the outside world. The Tactical Wireless Emergency Broadband (TWEB™) 
network set up by F4W will provide
secure wireless Internet and VoIP service over several miles to Mobile Command 
Centers and vehicles from fire,
rescue, and law enforcement agencies. The network utilizes Motorola, Tachyon, 
and Panasonic equipment as well as
F4W control software and network devices. (Source: VoIP Magazine, Thursday, 01 
September 2005)

Internet Telephony Keeps Baton Rouge Hospital In Touch. Baton Rouge General 
Hospital, who still had a broadband
connection after the hurricane but no long distance, called up Vonage and asked 
for help. Vonage helped them get
set up with VoIP so the hospital can dial out of Baton Rouge. The hospital 
ultimately used nine voice-over IP
converters and wireless-enabled laptops with VoIP software installed for long 
distance communications and to set up
a public branch exchange for communications within the hospital and sharing 
patient data. (Government Technology,
Aug 31, 2005, By Corey McKenna, 
http://www.govtech.net/magazine/channel_story.php/96493)

Satellite Based VoIP Helping Put Utility Repair Crews In Touch To Restore 
Service. Siemens Enterprise Networks is
working with a power utility in Mississippi that has been sending repair crews 
into the field with
voice-over-Internet Protocol (VoIP) phones to make wireless calls via a 
satellite network. The VoIP system has been
the main means of voice communications for utility crew supervisors in the 
field. In this case, Siemens acted as
integrator to arrange for satellite network bandwidth, allowing the users to 
connect to a Siemens IP-based voice
switch in Atlanta. With the Siemens VoIP phones, the workers can make 
five-digit calls over a familiar device to
co-workers without needing special codes for the satellite links.(Source: 
ComputerWorld, “Telecoms face 'one big
mess' in US Gulf Coast region”, Matt Hamblen, Sept, 2 2005)

Rapid VoIP Deployments Help Get Emergency Phone Services Up and Running. The 
Louisiana Department of Health and
Hospitals 

[WISPA] Shipping still to Rayville?

2005-09-12 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello wireless,

  Are we still shipping to Rayville for stuff?

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TVWHITESPACE] NAF press release

2005-09-09 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello,

This press release really needs to be posted on a website so it can be referred 
to when
discussing this with our clients...

Barry

Friday, September 9, 2005, 12:17:46 PM, you wrote:

  
 
MKS592 fyi
 
MKS592  
 
MKS592 Marlon
MKS592 (509)  982-2181    Equipment sales
MKS592 (408) 907-6910  (Vonage)     Consulting services
MKS592 42846865  (icq)     And I run my own 
wisp!
MKS592 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
MKS592 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
MKS592 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 
MKS592  
 

MKS592  
 
MKS592 - Original Message - 
MKS592 From: Jim Snider  
 
MKS592 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
MKS592 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:53 AM
 
MKS592 Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] NAF press release
 

 
MKS592 A copy of the press release NAF sent  out this morning. 
 
MKS592 --Jim 
 
MKS592 J.H. Snider, Ph.D.  
MKS592 Senior Research  Fellow 
MKS592 New America  Foundation 
MKS592 1630  Connecticut Ave., NW 
MKS592 Washington, DC 20009 
MKS592 Phone: 202/986-2700 
MKS592 Fax: 202/986-3696 
MKS592 Web: www.newamerica.net  
MKS592 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
MKS592 (Also see my new book on digital TV  policy and politics 
MKS592 www.spectrumpolicy.net) 

 
MKS592 MEDIA  BACKGROUNDER
 
MKS592 Contact: Michael Calabrese, (202) 986-2700 (x327), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MKS592 J.H. Snider,  (202) 986-2700 (x226), [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
MKS592 KATRINA DEMONSTRATES  FAILURE OF CURRENT U.S. SPECTRUM POLICY
 
MKS592 (WASHINGTON--September 9, 2005) In  recent days the
MKS592 press has extensively covered the telecommunications breakdown
MKS592 in New Orleans and the attempts of telephone, cable, and
MKS592 broadcast companies to  reinstate service and help disaster
MKS592 victims. What has not been covered as  extensively in the
MKS592 media is the lack of communications at dozens of rural 
MKS592 Louisiana shelters and the efforts of Wireless Internet
MKS592 Service Providers  (WISPs), which use unlicensed spectrum, to
MKS592 address this  problem.
 
MKS592 Earlier this week, such stories were  featured at a
MKS592 Capitol Hill forum sponsored by the New America Foundation and
MKS592 the  Congressional Future of American Media Caucus. Rep. Diane
MKS592 Watson, D-CA, bemoaned  the lack of telecommunications
MKS592 services after the storm and said that it pointed  to the
MKS592 serious failure and the lack of preparedness in our nation's 
MKS592 telecommunications policy. New America Foundation Vice
MKS592 President Michael  Calabrese added, It is simply not
MKS592 affordable anytime soon to be stringing fiber  lines to rural
MKS592 areas, but wireless networks can provide broadband
MKS592 communications  services very quickly and inexpensively.
 
MKS592 As New Orleans is being evacuated,  thousands of
MKS592 evacuees are streaming out into the countryside where churches
MKS592 and  communities have set up shelters to take care of them.
MKS592 Unfortunately, many of  these shelters lack telecommunications
MKS592 service. Responding to this need, dozens  of rural WISPs have
MKS592 poured into rural Louisiana to help out. 
 
MKS592 As of midday Thursday, WISPs were  providing service
MKS592 to more than 1,100 evacuees at the following shelters: Mangham
MKS592 Baptist (Mangham, LA), Delhi Civic Center (Delhi, LA), Baskin
MKS592 First Baptist  (Baskin, LA), Grace Fellowship (Baskin, LA),
MKS592 River of Life Church (Winnsboro,  LA), Tallulah Community
MKS592 Center (Tallulah, LA), and Parkview Baptist (Richmond,  LA).
MKS592 The following shelters were also expected to get service by
MKS592 the end of the  day: King's Camp (Mer Rouge, LA), Richland
MKS592 Baptist Encampment (Alto, LA),  Antioch Baptist (Rayville,
MKS592 LA), and Archibald Church of God (Archibald,  LA).

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Re: [WISPA] Volunteer Contact Info Checklist

2005-09-07 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Rick,

Here is what I am doing, I talked to Mac today at 2pm and will be
heading down tomorrow morning. I support WISPA's efforts and if they
coincide with P-15, I'll let Wispa decide that.



Barry


  
RH Volunteer Information Checklist:
  
RH  
  
RH First Name: Barry
  
RH Last Name:  Buchholz
  
RH Company:   Mutual Data Services, Inc.
  
RH Address:   319 N. Clinton St.
  
RH City: St. Johns
  
RH State: Michigan
  
RH Zip Code:48879
  
RH Office Phone: 989-224-6839
  
RH Cell Phone: 989-640-3376
  
RH VoIP Phone:
  
RH Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
RH  
  
RH Health Concerns: none known
  
RH  
  
RH Medication Allergies:none known
  
RH  
  
RH Medication Needs: none known
  
RH  
  
RH Insurance Company: For what?
  
RH Insurance Company Phone Number:
  
RH  
  
RH Closest Relative: Kathy Buchholz
  
RH Relation: Wife
  
RH Address: 402 N. Traver St.
  
RH City: St. Johns
  
RH State: MI
  
RH Zip Code:48879
  
RH Phone: 989-224-8505
  
RH Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
RH  
  
RH Skills:Many- WISP!!!
  
RH  
  
RH Description of Tasks: Headingto Mac Dearmans to deliver omni
RH antenna and help out for 3 days
  
RH  
  
RH Description of Locations of Work:See Mac.
  
RH  
  
RH Date Work Commenced:
  
RH Date Work Ended:
  
RH Willing to Return:
  
RH  
  
RH  
  
RH Rick Harnish
  
RH President
  
RH OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
  
RH 260-827-2482 Office
  
RH 260-307-4000 Cell
  
RH 260-918-4340 VoIP
  
RH www.oibw.net
  
RH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
RH  
  
RH   
  
RH  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Call for 802.11 Bridges, Routers, VoIP and more.

2005-09-06 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Rick,

Is this:

a. In lieu of Part15 efforts
b. Part of Part15 efforts

Is the data in the Part-15 database being shared so these requests can
be part of getting supplies?

What about the equipment shipped out by Intel and Cisco? Is that only
for official RC efforts?

Barry



Tuesday, September 6, 2005, 1:04:24 PM, you wrote:

RH We are getting a lot of requests from down south for more equipment.  Mac
RH Dearman, JohnnyO, Tim Wolfe, Joe Miller and Joe Laura are all working
RH diligently to get more shelters online as quickly as possible.  If anyone
RH has any equipment they can donate ASAP.  Please get with me.  There are
RH nearly 20 volunteers heading down there from all over the country in the
RH next few days.  Some are in route now.  We need backhaul equipment, AP’s and
RH client radios.  Routers and VoIP equipment is also needed.   Feel free to
RH call my cell. 

RH This call for equipment includes resellers and manufacturers. Please call
RH me today!

RH Rick Harnish
RH President
RH OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
RH 260-827-2482 Office
RH 260-307-4000 Cell
RH 260-918-4340 VoIP
RH www.oibw.net
RH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re[2]: [WISPA] Back to the hurricaine......A time to focus

2005-08-31 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Mark,

Excellent post Mark, I think a database should be put together that
can list what is available and what people can bring into a situation
like this.

For example-


2 installers plus bucket truck (30 foot height)

Tower climber w/ safety equipment- up to 200 foot structure

2.4ghz 24db grid antennas
Breezecom radios AP10/WB10 pair

Gas Generator model xyz

etc etc.

I got thinking about what we could do here in Mid-Michigan, and as
long as the right structures are standing I could go 100 plus miles
with some decent bandwidth.

I think the idea to setup VOIP outside the damaged areas to help
people get communications to the outside world would be extremely
important. Something that FEMA and other agencies will not be putting
high on the list at this stage since rescue is still in place.

Barry


Wednesday, August 31, 2005, 1:46:23 PM, you wrote:

w On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:41:10 -0400, Bob Moldashel wrote
 Hey MacDon't worry.  President Bush will be there on Friday and make
 everything better. He would have been there sooner but he had a fund
 raiser scheduled for tonight and another one tomorrow.   :-)
 
 Relax everyone.  That was a joke.  I'm a stupid Republican too.  
 Don't jump up and down.  Let's keep this near topic.
 
 And more good news.The govt just released a part of the strategic
 oil reserve to help with the fuel situation down there. They say the
 main reason for this was due to the inability to move oil into the
 refineries.  What they failed to mention was that the refineries in the
 region are still shut down and are not expected to be up to 
 production levels until next week. I bet by then the oil will be 
 flowing again. If nothin more it will mean more gas for me.  Sure 
 won't help the poor people of Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana much.
 
 Amazing.
 

w There's plenty of fuel in some parts of the country.   Here in the NW, most 
of
w our fuel comes from alaska and Montana and Wyoming.  

 
 And hug your family and tell them you love themBecause many no
 longer can.
 
 Life is too short.  Live it like it is your last day.
 
 God Bless
 


w Good advice.   

 -B-
 
 Mac Dearman wrote:
 



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Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

2005-08-24 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Brian,

WHAT DEBT FREE You can't do that That will disrupt the
time space continuum thingee. Didn't you know ISP's are supposed to
not make money?

Get a grip man   :-)


Barry

Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 10:33:19 AM, you wrote:

BR I plan to be debt free in a year, so I hope to be ok.  Everyone all paid
BR off and ready to roll.

BR Matt Liotta wrote:

 I wouldn't worry about it since the way you did it put the investors
 at risk more so than you. There is a better way to do it and before
 your company gets too successful you may want to visit a lawyer and
 get things cleaned up.

 -Matt

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 Just typed up something on the laptop that said, I owe you this
 much, and we both signed it.  Not fancy, but a little better than an
 oral agreement.  I won't miss a payment and will pay them back if it
 takes closing the WISP and working 3 jobs.  Missing payments is not
 an option.  Only if I'm laid up in the hospital.  Personal 
 guaranteed?  Well, I told them I will pay it back...  I know the 
 agreement leaves a lot open, but I trust these 4 people.  Anyway, so
 they are not investors.  Lastly, lets just leave me be about this :)
 I'd rather not try to defend a million questions about what if this
 and what if that.  It is what I did and it is done.

 Charles Wu wrote:

 that would be a loan
 what type of collateral do they have? or what happens if you miss a
 payment?
 have you personally guaranteed the money?
  
 -Charles
  
  

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 August 15-17, 2005

 -Original Message-
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher
 *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

 Well, I guess we would call them loans as I have all control.
 Correct me if I am wrong.  They gave me money at a fixed rate.
 Loans or investments?

 Charles Wu wrote:

 well...in determing their dumbness (assuming you're willing to
 divulge this information) - what sort of investment / equity
 share / control do your investors have?
  I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does everyone
 have
 an equal share? (which is a different story all together) or
 does 1 single person have a majority share and the other 4 are
 minority partners
  -Charles
  
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 http://www.wispnog.com http://www.wispnog.com/
 August 15-17, 2005

 -Original Message-
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian
 Rohrbacher
 *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 8:05 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

 Well, I guess I found four dumb people that got me
 started.  All my start up funds came from 4 people.  All
 four were subs from a previous WISP I  owned,  (before my
 partner took everything over and left me out in the cold)
 they all said, I want you providing service, not the other
 guy.  So here I am.  7 months in and going strong.  Oh,
 almost forgot, like my lawyer has me say..all that is
 just my opinion.  ;-)   I think dumb investors
 are great!
  Charles Wu wrote:

 sure
  a passive minority equity position stake in a 
 privately
 held company is worthless, as legally, the person with the
 majority stake can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of
 purchasing, spending, cash distribution, etc)
  think about it, if it was your money, would you
 be willing
 to just invest it into a company when the majority
 partner can do whatever he/she wants to and you have no
 recourse?
  -Charles
 
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 http://www.wispnog.com http://www.wispnog.com/
 August 15-17, 2005

 -Original Message-
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
 *Dylan Oliver
 *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 4:10 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

 Charles,

 would you expand on that?

 On 8/22/05, *Charles Wu* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




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Re[2]: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

2005-08-24 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Jeromie,

First, I'm with Mark on this issue. This form sucks lemons.

But on to the article, I see no reason why I need to submit to a city
if I wish to send video over my system. I am an information packet
sending service. What business is it of theirs? Who cares what is in
each packet.

 The whole franchise thing, IMNSHO, should be a dead issue (like telco
 monopolies should be) since many  companies NOW want to build out systems.
  Back in 1960whatever I can  see why a franchise would have been needed
  to help the cable company bring in video. But those days are over.

 If I stream video who cares.. Oh they want a cut of the business
 but not provide one iota of risk or effort to make it work. I think
 that is the definition of parasite. A better solution would have
 muni's building open systems that anyone can access, who cares what
info is being sent to the customer.

 Hell, I want to build a head end just to be able to stream 100 channels of
 video to my customers. Sheesh its just MTV, go shoot me..


Barry



Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 1:29:10 PM, you wrote:

JR Under the current FCC chairman i have to agree.

JR 
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2005-08-22-telecom-usat_x.htm?POE=MONISVA

JR The only thing i get from that is they now want to alter the franchise
JR process to allow telcos to do something
JR they already can and know exactly how to do. Add this to the recent
JR ruling that cable co's do not need to
JR share and you got people on a grass knoll. I agree with Mark that we are
JR being setup for a fall.

JR Jeromie


JR Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

I'm quite sure it's only real purpose is finding out where all of us are,
and where we are  and who we are so we can be easily taxed and regulated.

Like Congress gives a rip about small business?Only so as it gives them
numbers to pontificate about.


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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


  

In this particular case it's actually a very good thing Mark.

Part of what's kept us at arm's length in a number of venues is the lack


of
  

numbers.  The FCC is trying to get an accurate count and this was an
existing system for doing just that.

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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477




While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes
from?   How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does
not
require thier action to exist?

Further, what's the justification in the first place?   I think this is
the
camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll
  

be
  

steamrollered into non-existence real fast.


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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


  

Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to
the
FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.

laters,
Marlon
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- Original Message - 
From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477




For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form
477
with the FCC by September 1.

Here is a link to the form:

http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477

Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.

Cheers,

Matt Larsen
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Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello George,

We raised ours to $150 ( was 125) early summer when gas hit 2.50 a gallon. No 
one
peeped. We also switched from running our bucket truck to a pickup
with ladder racks. Sucks when you do an install and the bucket would
really work. We got Verizon falling all over themselves giving away
DSL here too. That forced us to look at marketing/selling to people
in the country though. I'm not price warring with them.

We also are firming up our pay if not our equipment service calls.
Was letting that slide too much and the infected crap people run is
not worth doing it for free.

We are looking into alternative technologies to power our trucks
also.

Barry

Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 7:27:57 PM, you wrote:

G Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas
 prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.

G If you can get away with it.
G But I don't think Qwest or Charter are raising there rates because of gas.

G I think this is just the cost of doing business and in this business
G with fixed install prices, we are squeezed.

G I was thinkin off buying a better gas mileage vehicle, now I'm really
G considering it.


G George




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Re[2]: [WISPA] Lanyard and positioning straps

2005-08-16 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Brian,

Tessco has climbing stuff and Tennessee Equipment is another option.
Lurk on the Tower-pro list for other climbing stuff.

We need to hook up for lunch someday, we are not that far apart!

Barry

Tuesday, August 16, 2005, 10:58:25 AM, you wrote:

BR I'll need to order today.  Does midwest have the best prices? I want a
BR double lanyard but they are 150 - 200, it that what they all run or is
BR this just super high quality?  I didn't want to have 1000 into climbing
BR gear.  I know I knowI could die.


BR is this the best positioning strap?  
BR http://www.midwestunlimited.com/store_detail.lasso?-Token.id=10241

BR The double lanyard needs to have the big fat hooks.  Anymore suggestions?

BR George wrote:

 http://www.midwestunlimited.com/store_detail.lasso?-Token.id=10229

 George


 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 I just bought a harness.  (I know, two years in and it's my first 
 harness)  I need a nice double lanyard and a positioning strap (or
 two, does it take 2?)

 Where can I find good quality, but not a premium price.  Or maybe 
 medium quality.  I don't want to go broke or fall.  :)

 Thanks.





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Re[2]: [WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially proposeDSLderegulationonThursday

2005-08-04 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello Charles,

 (in Chicago, SBC DSL modems now come w/ WiFi
CW access points turned on broadcasting away...sure, it's a convenience to the
CW consumers, but I cannot but wonder if this is an insidious method of
CW trashing 2.4 muni-wifi / wisp networks)

We have a village of about 400 homes that has veriscum dsl with
wireless AP's all over it now. You can pretty much stay connected anywhere in 
that
town and stay on the verizon hotspot.  No one needs a 200mw AP in
their house IMO.

Barry


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Re[2]: [WISPA] 5.8 GHz PtP - weaker RSLs

2005-08-03 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello John,

Redline.

Barry

Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 8:49:52 AM, you wrote:

JS Is there anyone who is using anything other than Trango who sees this
JS same issue?
JS Scriv



JS Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

Im on the other end of the country - Oregon...

I saw no changes in my 5 ghz stuff.   Solar activity would have an impact
here too, right?   how long does the influence last?



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- Original Message - 
From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.8 GHz PtP - weaker RSLs


  

On 2 Aug 2005 at 12:56, Brian Webster wrote:



Since different people saw the same problem in multiple locations I
  

would
  

suspect a propagation problem, probably as a result of solar activity.
  

While possible, there's one thing that just makes that sound really weird.

We're using Trango gear as well, and (as Scriv mentioned) saw some similar
problems last night...

One of our Trango APs has two client SUs associated. Both links are about


nine
  

miles, but the endpoints are only about three miles apart, on the same


state
  

highway. Think of it as a V shape, where the AP is at the bottom of the


V.
  

And the V is actually pointing west-to-east. But whatever.

One of those links went completely bananas, lost about 10dB of signal,


dropped
  

connection all over the place. The other didn't skip a beat.

I have another, similar, link that did the same thing last night. One AP,


three
  

SUs. One went bonkers, the other two were things of beauty and perfection.
Again, the endpoints are only a couple miles apart.

[newbie mode ON!]

Is solar flare activity really sufficiently random that this is


plausible?
  

With clients on the same frequency, and so relatively close together, I'd
expect any really broad-scale interference to knock them all off at the


same
  

time, instead of just doing so randomly.

David Smith
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