Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
Yes. In addition, you can create complex dependencies in addition to normal parent/child relationships. For example, if you have a utility power sensor at a site, you can create a dependency for non-battery-backed equipment at the site that's separate from the parent/child relationship built from the network structure. Same thing can be done for any service that's monitored by the system... GPS lock on a CMM, etc. The notification structure in nagios is also tiered. So for example the first notification for a downed service can go out to an ops group, then if it's not acknowledged in time, the next round of notifications goes out to the ops group as well as their supervisor, etc. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/25/2011 18:34, D. Ryan Spott wrote: > Nagios does this quite well. > > ryan > > > > On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > wrote: > >> Hi Ed >> >> I was looking also for something that sends one "report email" in case >> of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part >> of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one >> email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state >> change when occurs. >> >> anybody has found something with this approach? >> >> Thank you >> >>> Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, >>> works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless >>> and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services. >>> >>> Ed Spoon >>> Manager of Internet Services >>> triparish.net<http://triparish.net> / cajun.net<http://cajun.net> >>> Member: FISPA / WISPA >>> Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 >>> Computer Sales& Services, Inc. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco >>> mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote: >>> >>> hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had >>> the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the >>> unstability of the version >>> >>> Do you have it in production without any issue? >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>>> Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the >>> problem is! >>>> *--- >>>> **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_** >>>> **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik& WISP Support Services >>>> Office*: 314-735-0270 >> > *Website*: >>>> http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> >>>> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >>>> <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/> - Author of "Learn RouterOS" >>>> <http://routerosbook.com/>/* >>>> >>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> >>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen >>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM >>>> *To:* WISPA General List >>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? >>>> >>>> We use PRTG, The latest one. >>>> >>>> We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff >>> alerts >>>> us via email and text message. >>>> >>>> Nick Olsen >>>> Network Operations >>>> >>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> *From*: "Paolo Di Francesco">> <mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> >>>> *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM >>>> *To*: "WISPA General List">> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> >>>> *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have >>> implemented to >>>> see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. >>>> >>>> Nagios or similar? >>>> >>>> any hint would be appreciated :) >>>> >>>> thank you >>&
Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
Here is the one I'm using. It checks to make sure the neighbor relationship is good between two BGP peers (cisco): http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Uncategorized/Software/SNMP/check_bgp/details It's written in Perl, and you'll need the Net::SNMP module to make it work. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Can you share the nagios plugin for BGP session status? Kevin - Original Message - From: "Patrick Shoemaker" To: ; "WISPA GeneralList" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Nagios. For everything from BGP session status to shelter temperature. Very flexible and easy to make custom checks. Add a GSM modem to send SMS messages directly from the box. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi all I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. Nagios or similar? any hint would be appreciated :) thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
Nagios. For everything from BGP session status to shelter temperature. Very flexible and easy to make custom checks. Add a GSM modem to send SMS messages directly from the box. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi all I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. Nagios or similar? any hint would be appreciated :) thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] APC Surge Components
Yes, WB Manufacturing. Just released: http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=38 -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 07:42 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] APC Surge Components I use APC FRM4 chassis with PNETR5 modules for Cat5e surge suppression. I think APC has discontinued these. Does anyone know where I might get some of these? What makes a good, fairly low-cost, compact unit for use in tower cabinets? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bulk text alerts
Yes. Just be sure to set up sender restrictions so any joe on the internet can't use your distribution groups. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 13:54 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bulk text alerts I am not Exchange saavy, but can't you create server-side groups and send an email to the group? On 9/9/2011 1:30 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, we are using dude for network monitoring, technicians receive email notifications to our smartphones upon outage. This has always worked well. Now I can create distribution lists in outlook that I can send out text notifications to customers manually when we receive our notifications, but how can I automate this? I would like to have distribution lists for each cell, and if that particular cell goes out, it automatically notifies a distribution list of users connected to that cell. We are using Exchange/outlook for email, but open to other suggestions. Thanks Pat From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bulk text alerts Everybody sees all outages, not just the ones that impacts them. Can make your network appear less reliable that it really is. On 9/8/2011 11:04 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: +1: Any reason not to just use twitter? On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Joel Barnard mailto:jbarn...@nwic.ca>> wrote: We use twitter. Customers who are interested in network status updates can follow the Twitter page, and subscribe to text messages. When there's a problem you just tweet manually or use API for automated things. Joel Barnard Niagara Wireless Internet Co. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bulk text alerts Does anyone use or know of an application or service for sending bulk text messages. We would like a one time pay vs. pay per message. What we would like to accomplish is create a group message for network status alerts that go out via text message to customers that wish to receive such. Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET<http://CSWEB.NET> Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net<http://www.nwwnet.net> (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net<http://www.nwwnet.net> (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --
Re: [WISPA] Bulk text alerts
Though I agree Twitter is probably the right mechanism for the OP, if you want to do direct SMS, also consider a standard GSM modem as an alternative to the MultiTech SMS servers. http://www.sierrawireless.com/productsandservices/AirLink/Programmable_Modems/Fastrack_Xtend_EDGE.aspx You can get Chinese equivalents on Ebay, just make sure they're in the correct GSM band. Search for wavecom modem. Sierra Wireless now holds it. There are a number of open source apps that will send SMS using these modems. I use one for network monitoring alerts. Get an AT&T gophone SIM for it and pay $20/month for unlimited SMS and no voice. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 16:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bulk text alerts We have been looking at MultiTech's SMS servers but haven't bought one yet. http://www.multitech.com/en_US/PRODUCTS/Families/MultiModemiSMS/ On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: > Does anyone use or know of an application or service for sending bulk > text messages. We would like a one time pay vs. pay per message. > What we would like to accomplish is create a group message for network > status alerts that go out via text message to customers that wish to receive > such. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Patrick Nix, Jr., > Computer Network Solutions > CSWEB.NET Internet Services > IT Manager > > http://www.cnetworksolutions.com > http://www.csweb.net > > (918) 235-0414 > > > > > > Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential > and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this > information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and > may be illegal. > > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Sales COntact?
I haven't dealt with him personally, but he's left a bunch of voicemails for me recently: Chris McCracken 303-404-8721 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-mccracken/4/a6/65a -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:59 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] Juniper Sales COntact? Anyone has a Juniper Sales Contact? We have a project that we would like to get them onboard Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning protection, Surge Protection, now we need....
Ew! Break off the tabs where the Ethernet cables pass through the base of the protector. Then the lid will seal tightly and keep the slugs out. Also won't crush the cables. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 22:51 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Lightning protection, Surge Protection, now we need SLUG protection! http://imgur.com/V2QCA Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI
Pretty sure he wants to deliver a PRI to the customer for use with their non-IP-enabled PBX, then run SIP over his network. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 17:02 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI We use pbx in a flash distro of asterisk works well and that distro is a no-brained. Check out nerdvittles.com for great articles and pbxinaflash.com Feel free to ask away But I agree why use a PRI? U can use sip or iax trunks. More info I'd needed on what is needed. Ldz Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: > The folks on the Voiceops list seem to be fans of using Adtran for this: > > http://www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/Adtran/product/4212904L1/39 > > Let me know if you try one of those out. I'd like to start doing this too. > I'd want the CPE to be as dumb as possible. An asterisk box at the customer > seems like a lot of complexity and room for failure modes to me. > > -- > Patrick Shoemaker > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 15:09 > To: WISPA General List; us...@wug.cc > Subject: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI > > Has anyone set these up for customers? We were thinking about putting an > Asterisk box in with a T-1 PRI interface and connecting it to the customer's > equipment. > Would this work? > > Any pitfalls? Any affordable turnkey solutions for this? > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI
The folks on the Voiceops list seem to be fans of using Adtran for this: http://www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/Adtran/product/4212904L1/39 Let me know if you try one of those out. I'd like to start doing this too. I'd want the CPE to be as dumb as possible. An asterisk box at the customer seems like a lot of complexity and room for failure modes to me. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 15:09 To: WISPA General List; us...@wug.cc Subject: [WISPA] "Virtual" T-1 PRI Has anyone set these up for customers? We were thinking about putting an Asterisk box in with a T-1 PRI interface and connecting it to the customer's equipment. Would this work? Any pitfalls? Any affordable turnkey solutions for this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA
Yep it can do 8 simultaneous g.729, but only one T38 fax call per pair of lines. Subsequent fax calls will fall back to g711 passthru. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:58 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA I thought each port could do g729 at the same time? It's been a while since I used it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Shoemaker mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: Yep, it's 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router. Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it's 4 SPA2102 ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of lines, etc.). They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning scheme as the rest of the ex-sipura product line. Wish there was no fan, and wish the power connector had some sort of retaining clip and not just a barrel connector. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:52 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA What Patrick said. I have one on the shelf if you're interested. It seems to work just as well as the SPA2x02. Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: SPA8000 -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49 To: motor...@afmug.com<mailto:motor...@afmug.com>; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>) Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA
Yep, it's 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router. Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it's 4 SPA2102 ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of lines, etc.). They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning scheme as the rest of the ex-sipura product line. Wish there was no fan, and wish the power connector had some sort of retaining clip and not just a barrel connector. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:52 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA What Patrick said. I have one on the shelf if you're interested. It seems to work just as well as the SPA2x02. Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: SPA8000 -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49 To: motor...@afmug.com<mailto:motor...@afmug.com>; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>) Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA
SPA8000 -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49 To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Oops, didn't mean to repeat Jerry's post. Didn't see it before writing mine. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 14:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Yes, and also keep in mind that gain is not always tied to antenna beamwidth. Gain is a function of antenna directivity (which is a good indicator of beamwidth) and antenna efficiency. Parabolic reflectors, for example, have greater directivity, and therefore narrower beamwidths and better interference rejection, than panels, since panels have higher efficiency. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 13:07 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas He is stating (and I agree) it is better to have greater gain on the antenna then it is more transmit power. Spend more money on your antennas then worrying about tx power. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jawad A Hai mailto:ahja...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Too much antenna ?? you mean bigger antenna gain ?? From: Jerry Richardson<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas In my opinion it's better to have too much antenna and turn the Tx power down so that I can get narrower beamwidths. The narrower beamwidths make a big difference in a noisy environments. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas PtP I will go for short distances anything under 10 KM. Above that I will go for dish. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:25 AM To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Just noticed the subject was ptp. What kind of distances? Panels are not a great choice a lot of the time. On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, "RickG" mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>wrote: > >> I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or >> Jirous. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai >> mailto:ahja...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate >>> if you some body can advise me. >>> >>> Hi, >>> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt >>> without any luck ) >>> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from >>> UBNT) >>> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. >>> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. >>> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. >>> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to >>> port isolation(MIMO). >>> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is >>> nothing without a good antenna. >>> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range >>> in very crowded environments. >>> I have been trying different brands with different results and its >>> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an >>> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just >>> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. >>> >>> Thank YOu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wis
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
Yes, and also keep in mind that gain is not always tied to antenna beamwidth. Gain is a function of antenna directivity (which is a good indicator of beamwidth) and antenna efficiency. Parabolic reflectors, for example, have greater directivity, and therefore narrower beamwidths and better interference rejection, than panels, since panels have higher efficiency. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 13:07 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas He is stating (and I agree) it is better to have greater gain on the antenna then it is more transmit power. Spend more money on your antennas then worrying about tx power. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jawad A Hai mailto:ahja...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Too much antenna ?? you mean bigger antenna gain ?? From: Jerry Richardson<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas In my opinion it's better to have too much antenna and turn the Tx power down so that I can get narrower beamwidths. The narrower beamwidths make a big difference in a noisy environments. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas PtP I will go for short distances anything under 10 KM. Above that I will go for dish. From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:25 AM To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Just noticed the subject was ptp. What kind of distances? Panels are not a great choice a lot of the time. On Jul 13, 2011 10:23 PM, "RickG" mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman > mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>wrote: > >> I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or >> Jirous. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai >> mailto:ahja...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate >>> if you some body can advise me. >>> >>> Hi, >>> This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt >>> without any luck ) >>> I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from >>> UBNT) >>> Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. >>> i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. >>> Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. >>> ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to >>> port isolation(MIMO). >>> Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is >>> nothing without a good antenna. >>> My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range >>> in very crowded environments. >>> I have been trying different brands with different results and its >>> difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an >>> advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just >>> one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. >>> >>> Thank YOu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller
Worst case Canopy FSK, best case fast Ethernet switchport on my backbone. I don't anticipate much load on these things, this is just free WiFi for general purpose use in highrise building lobby/café/farmers market. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 14:02 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller That would REALLY depend on what his connectivity "pipe" is. If he's putting DSL or Cable modem at these locations to provide the backhaul, he's going to suffer in one direction or the other. That said, we do still have one marina on DSL, unfortunately, however all the rest are on 5Ghz backhauls to the mountain top towers and have nice symmetrical bandwidth. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller Why not use MT Routers to PPTP tunnel the remote networks back to your NOC with one one server managing/monitoring all the networks? Less costly and you get the benefit of a single server to view all the networks and a MT on site for diagnostics and bandwidth management. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller Is anyone using Ubiquiti's UniFi APs and running the controller software on a device other than a normal PC server? I'd like to deploy these things at some remote locations (free public WiFi hotspots) and am looking for a single board computer or something like a SheevaPlug that will run the controller software and is small, inexpensive, and doesn't consume much power. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com<mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3702 - Release Date: 06/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller
That could work. I like that idea. I'm a Mikrotik novice, what sort of hardware should I be using? Anything with PoE injector built in to power the UniFi APs? -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller Why not use MT Routers to PPTP tunnel the remote networks back to your NOC with one one server managing/monitoring all the networks? Less costly and you get the benefit of a single server to view all the networks and a MT on site for diagnostics and bandwidth management. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller Is anyone using Ubiquiti's UniFi APs and running the controller software on a device other than a normal PC server? I'd like to deploy these things at some remote locations (free public WiFi hotspots) and am looking for a single board computer or something like a SheevaPlug that will run the controller software and is small, inexpensive, and doesn't consume much power. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com<mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3702 - Release Date: 06/13/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller
Is anyone using Ubiquiti's UniFi APs and running the controller software on a device other than a normal PC server? I'd like to deploy these things at some remote locations (free public WiFi hotspots) and am looking for a single board computer or something like a SheevaPlug that will run the controller software and is small, inexpensive, and doesn't consume much power. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com<mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch
Seems like they're $10 each in low quantity, should have a quote in a few minutes. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 14:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch Are they really only $6-7? Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Shoemaker mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: Found it: http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no technician is required on site when the port actually occurs. Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com<mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch
$10 from Vetco Supply, http://www.vetcosupply.com<http://www.vetcosupply.com/> -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 14:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch Are they really only $6-7? Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Shoemaker mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: Found it: http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no technician is required on site when the port actually occurs. Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com<mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch
Found it: http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no technician is required on site when the port actually occurs. Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch
Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no technician is required on site when the port actually occurs. Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Toll free SIP termination
Is anyone here successfully using a carrier that does free termination of toll-free traffic via SIP? It would be nice to not pay for toll-free termination, but I need to maintain PSTN quality 100% of the time, pass caller ID, etc. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com<mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Safety Harness
I have the Elk River also and like it. It has a built-in seat which makes suspended work much easier. Like sitting on a swing in a playground. Martha, feel free to stop by my office if you want to check it out before buying anything. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 4/18/2011 22:06, Josh Luthman wrote: Tessco or Midwest Unlimited. Brands are arguable. It's like Dewalt or Ryobi, Ford or Dodge, Dell or Gateway, etc Mine is Elk River. I think it's this one... http://www.midwestunlimited.com/detail.lasso?cat_master=1002&cat_level=1254&product_id=10679 <http://www.midwestunlimited.com/detail.lasso?cat_master=1002&cat_level=1254&product_id=10679> Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Martha Huizenga <mailto:mar...@dcaccess.net>> wrote: Can anyone tell me where they purchase Safety Harnesses? Is there a special kind or brand I should be looking for? Thanks Martha -- Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC <http://www.dcaccess.net> 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/DCAccess> or follow us on Twitter <http://twitter.com/dcaccess> /* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
Because usually when we're analyzing a coax cable the current we care about is flowing within the cable, on the outer surface of the inner conductor and the inner surface of the outer conductor. The physical dimensions and materials of the cable components and the dielectric constant (relative permittivity) of the material between the conductors defines the velocity factor. This case is different since we're analyzing currents flowing on the outside of the shield. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 4/13/2011 23:00, Greg Ihnen wrote: If the dielectric of coax cables causes them to have a velocity factor of .6, why would the jacket insulation be different? Greg On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: Except in this case, assuming the shield is intact and good quality, we are dealing with undesired currents flowing on the surface of the cable shield only. At 100 MHz and assuming an aluminum foil shield in the cat5, the shield metal is thicker than a few skin depths (about 8 um skin depth). So we essentially have a solid conductor in open air, and if the insulation’s relative permittivity is close enough to 1 to neglect (should be), the velocity factor is close to 1. -- Patrick Shoemaker *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*On Behalf Of*Greg Ihnen *Sent:*Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:32 *To:*WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install In space (vacuum). Cables have a velocity factor. On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: And speed of light (c) = 300,000,000 m/s -- Patrick Shoemaker *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*On Behalf Of*Patrick Shoemaker *Sent:*Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:10 *To:*sc...@brevardwireless.com <mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>; WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Wavelength (m) = speed of light (m/s) / frequency (Hz) Avoid ¼ wavelength multiples. -- Patrick Shoemaker *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*On Behalf Of*Scott Carullo *Sent:*Wednesday, April 13, 2011 14:54 *To:*can...@believewireless.net <mailto:can...@believewireless.net>; WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables. You don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will compound your problem. Make them as de-tuned length as possible. I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a high-power FM station and it was a resonant length and it got so hot I had to drop it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: "can...@believewireless.net <mailto:can...@believewireless.net>" <mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> *Sent*: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:39 AM *To*:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> *Subject*: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs. Any recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
Except in this case, assuming the shield is intact and good quality, we are dealing with undesired currents flowing on the surface of the cable shield only. At 100 MHz and assuming an aluminum foil shield in the cat5, the shield metal is thicker than a few skin depths (about 8 um skin depth). So we essentially have a solid conductor in open air, and if the insulation's relative permittivity is close enough to 1 to neglect (should be), the velocity factor is close to 1. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install In space (vacuum). Cables have a velocity factor. On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: And speed of light (c) = 300,000,000 m/s -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:10 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com<mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Wavelength (m) = speed of light (m/s) / frequency (Hz) Avoid ¼ wavelength multiples. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 14:54 To: can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net>; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables. You don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will compound your problem. Make them as de-tuned length as possible. I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a high-power FM station and it was a resonant length and it got so hot I had to drop it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 [http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg] From: "can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net>" mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs. Any recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
And speed of light (c) = 300,000,000 m/s -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:10 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Wavelength (m) = speed of light (m/s) / frequency (Hz) Avoid ¼ wavelength multiples. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 14:54 To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables. You don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will compound your problem. Make them as de-tuned length as possible. I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a high-power FM station and it was a resonant length and it got so hot I had to drop it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 [http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg] From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs. Any recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install
Wavelength (m) = speed of light (m/s) / frequency (Hz) Avoid ¼ wavelength multiples. -- Patrick Shoemaker From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 14:54 To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install Get with someone who can tell you exactly how long to make the cables. You don't want them any whole fraction of the FM wavelength freq or it will compound your problem. Make them as de-tuned length as possible. I've had a coax in my hand not hooked to anything in the vacinity of a high-power FM station and it was a resonant length and it got so hot I had to drop it. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 [http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg] From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cable for FM Tower Install We are mounting close to a 50kW FM antenna and want to use heavy, double shielded cable for the runs to the APs since we've seen issues in the past. Fiber up the tower but will need 3-4 ft jumpers to the APs. Any recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing
Also keep in mind that most transactions done with these machines over POTS are unencrypted. So don't try to plug one into a VoIP ATA. On 4/11/2011 20:20, Josh Luthman wrote: All of my customers are through wireless medium. There are a handful with the credit card processing machines you see everywhere (the blue thin ones). No complaints. 90% of these units have a 10baseT (that's ten not one hundred) Ethernet port. I have seen a couple that DO NOT have an Ethernet port. Every provider I have ever talked to supported both mediums. Every customer will thank you greatly for moving them to Ethernet instead of dial up - transactions are at least a tenth the time. Call the merchant, say you want to use Ethernet instead of phone (you may need dial tone for this migration period!!!) and they'll tell you what to push. http://www.floridamerchantunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/vx510_39.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Ben West <mailto:b...@gowasabi.net>> wrote: I am curious if anyone has experience providing wireless service to small businesses who use a POS credit card system. My own chats with various small biz owners here in St. Louis suggests that their merchant account providers tend to expect a twisted-pair phone line and/or dedicated DSL/cable, no wireless. I imagine this may vary depending on who actually provides the merchant account, but has anyone received feedback from such providers about their expectations for serving the credit card machines wireless? E.g. must you use dedicated, encrypted wireless links (as common sense would suggest), and/or VPNs, or must the POS machine sit on a dedicated LAN, etc? Thanks. P.S. By POS I mean Point of Sale, to avoid any confusion. ;) -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net <mailto:b...@gowasabi.net> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gmail Motion :-)
Hahaha, I almost wouldn't put it past them. What better way to target ads based on personal appearance. This picture cracks me up: Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 4/1/2011 10:26, Cliff Leboeuf wrote: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] query for the list
Or just post to the list. Just put service required and the city, state in the title. Even those of us who don't have time to read all posts usually see the titles. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 3/16/2011 11:28, Steve Barnes wrote: > May I suggest that you use the following WISPA Lookup. > http://www.batchgeo.com/map/?i=fa0332971a0356b5fc6eb2e4e2cbd637&q > <http://www.batchgeo.com/map/?i=fa0332971a0356b5fc6eb2e4e2cbd637&q>= > > If you put the zip or address in the upper right hand search it will > give you the WISPA Members in that area that may be able to service you. > > Or as stated earlier contact Rick Harnish. > > Steve Barnes > > General Manager > > PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi <http://www.rcwifi.com/> > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Chris Stradtman > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:23 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] query for the list > > I didn't mean standard monthly rate. I fully expect these one offs to be > rather lucrative for the ISP. I just meant that legally we can't really > commit to a year long install on a venue that we're only going to be in > for a week or two. > > Chris Stradtman > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Cameron Crum <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote: > > We all know what bandwidth costs are like at these shows for > vendors. If you don't, the last big show I attended as a vendor cost > $1500 for 1.5M for 2 days. Very few shows are as friendly as WISPA > regionals and MUMs to vendors. I would say if you are willing to > revenue share some of that, you might get a bit more interest. > Otherwise, a month of service fees is probably not worth the > headache for most WISPs. > > Cameron > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mike Hammett > mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > I would love to drop that kind of bandwidth in on an on-demand basis. > Unfortunately, there aren't (m)any of those venue types in my area. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > On 3/15/2011 8:17 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > This may not be the right place for this query, but if it's not I'm > > hoping someone will point me in the correct direction. > > > > I'm not actually a WISP, however on a regular basis I could use > > service from WISPs. > > > > We do network professional services for tradeshows and other events. > > Many times I could really use a wireless backup link to venues that > > just have one terrestrial link (or indeed sometimes we could use the > > wireless as the primary link). Typically these events need > > connectivity for between 2 days and 2 weeks. We're willing to pay for > > up to a month's service even if we only need it for 2 days, however > > for obvious reasons full year contracts are out of the question. We > > typically know months ahead of time where the location is (once and a > > great while we will only get 2 weeks warning). Bandwidth demands can > > vary between 5M and 1G depending on a lot of factors. > > > > Typically the information we would get would be something like > > > > somebuilding > > 123 Anywhere Street > > sometown, somestate X > > bandwith = 10M burstable to 50M > > > > for example. > > > > My question is: Is this an appropriate place to post the requests, or > > if not, where could we post requests to get exposure to potentially > > interested WISPs?? > > > > We've found that just doing a web search for WISPs in the area and > > repetitive phone calls to yield a close to 0 success rate. I do > > understand that not every WISP is going to be interested in this sort > > of business. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Chris Stradtman > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > &g
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
This is too general of a question to answer. What exactly was the problem you encountered? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 3/4/2011 7:08 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > Does any one have a tool or guidelines for setting cost and priority on > OSPF interfaces? > We had a link go down today. OSPF did what it should, but it did not > move to the preferred alternate route. I got it there by changing some > costs, but I need a way to get it right without needing a failure to > tell me it is wrong. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco line card
Ask this on [c-nsp], you'll get a response there. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 2/12/2011 6:59 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone ever used a Cisco 3GE-GBIC-SC line card in a 12000 series > router and a WS-G5483 GBIC module (copper)? The data sheet on the line > card says it requires a fiber GBIC module, yet the single GE line card > will use a copper GBIC without an issue. > > Travis > Microserv > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Your input on 5 GHz rules changes needed
I like this idea. Combine it with a requirement for manufacturers to disable access to the TDWR frequencies until an unlocking code is entered. The unlocking code will be generated once a license is issued for the link as part of the licensing process. I'm assuming that the main problem here is uneducated users deploying links without knowing the effects they are having on the TDWR systems. This isn't going to help the rogue operators who know what they're doing and don't care. I seem to remember one violator in PR who was using Canopy 5700BH boards inside a 5400BH case, and had changed the channel down into 5.4 using the engineering page, bypassing DFS requirements and power limits. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 2/9/2011 2:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > I notice that the FCC issued a $10,000 fine to Ayustar in San Juan > about a year ago. I hope they got the message. > > It just might be that the FCC and NTIA were a little fast in making > 5600-5650 part of the Part 15 bands. Sure, licensed equipment can be > used without a license (vis. 3650) but that's a pretty > straightforward violation. On the other hand, it would be better to > have access to that band, including the 30 MHz guard bands that the > NTIA presentation shows as being needed, at least near the TDWRs. > > And that's the rub: There are 45 TDWRs, and a lot of places nowhere > near them. Sensing has not proven reliable. But a GPS/database > approach is costly. Maybe the best compromise is to take 5570-5680 > and take it out of Part 15, or limit Part 15 use to indoor low power > only (like 5150-5250). Then the 110 MHz at risk can be made > available under Part 90, as nonexclusive light licensing. The > license would have to specify its frqeuencies area of operation, and > follow rules that avoid TDWR interference. So if it's within say 10 > miles of a TDWR, it would need the 30 MHz spacing, and if within some > larger radius, it would need less spacing, and if way far from one of > them, it could operate within the TDWR band. In exchange for this, > we should ask for higher power limits, perhaps the same as on > 5725-5850 ISM, for places where it wouldn't interfere with TDWR (say > if it's both>30 MHz and> 20 km away, or>100 km away). This could > be done with a map of both TDWR and any other protected radars. > > At 2/9/2011 01:59 PM, Jack Unger wrote: >> On 2/9/2011 9:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> The proper fix for this problem is a visit from the enforcement guys, and a >>> nasty fine for repeat offenders. >> Joint FAA/FCC Enforcement teams have been out for a long time >> but this is >> a VERY costly solution and likely not sustainable in this era of shrinking >> budgets. That's why it's better to solve this problem before >> enforcement becomes >> the option of (costly) last resort. WISPA has suggested to the FCC that they >> better PUBLICIZE enforcement actions and they are considering that. >>> After that, what would be so hard about using sensing and DFS (done right >>> this time) to cause systems near the radars to notch out the 110mhz of >>> spectrum while not bothering anyone else? >> This is much more difficult that it sounds. The wireless >> industry has been >> working for over a year (manufacturers, chip makers, etc.) to do >> this and has so >> far been unable to come up with an acceptable technical solution. >> The effort is >> on hold at the moment. >>> The radar systems are well known, should be an easy signal to detect. >> They are not so easy to detect. New radar waveforms come into >> use. Radars >> go on and off-line. Wireless systems can't sit around all day just listening; >> they have real world traffic to handle. Again, the best minds in the industry >> have so far failed to figure out an acceptable solution. >>> The radios already tend to send a LOT of data back and forth, radio name, >>> signal levels, speed, language, channel used etc. etc. etc. Certainly any >>> radio that turns on could sense for 30 seconds, if it detects a TDWR signal >>> at a certain threshold, then report than back to the AP and the AP could >>> then lock out the needed channels for that particular location. >> You are more than welcome to volunteer to join the wireless "Industry >> Group" engineering team that has been addressing this issue for the >> last year. >> I'll be happy to introduce you to the team leader so you can sign up to >> contribute your engineering advice. >&g
Re: [WISPA] IDEAS to help solve the 5 GHz TDWR problem
I'm close to IAD, DCA, BWI, and ADW. With so many radars in such a small area I'd imagine some triangulation could be done. DC is not on the FAA's hotlist though... Next weather event I will take a look. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 2/9/2011 12:32 AM, Jack Unger wrote: Here are some ideas to help solve the TDWR interference problems around the country and possibly save 110 MHz of spectrum (5570 to 5680 MHz). We may not need to physically go to the problem areas because the data is available online. Here's what we could do: First, I'm attaching an NTIA report about TDWR interference. It contains a picture showing what the interference "strobe" lines look like (see page 7). Once you read this report, you will have a good understanding of the problem and how to look for interference strobes. Second, the TDWR radar outputs can be accessed from <http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp> then select the TDWR radar that you want to monitor. The trick is learning how to configure your view of the radar to be able to see strobes that are present. It requires tweaking with the elevation angle and velocity settings during the presence of actual precipitation conditions being displayed on a radar. I've seen strobes myself after I've played with the radar settings for a while to see what settings make them the most visible. It requires some time for experimentation. I'll ask the FCC for updated "problem airport" information. The last reported problem areas were New York, Chicago, Denver, Dallas and San Juan Puerto Rico. If we can get a volunteer team in each area to monitor their local TDWR during heavy weather, that team can get a general idea of the direction that the strobes are coming from. As the attached report indicates, one UNII transmitter can cause several, slightly different direction strobes so again, it's going to take some practice to figure this out but with practice and dedication from local teams, we should be able to track some of these offending transmitters down. Have a look at the report and experiment with viewing your local radar. Once you figure out what radar settings show the strobes best, PLEASE tell the rest of us. If we put our heads together to address this, we may be able to locate many of these interference sources and save the band without needing strict new FCC regulations. If you want an email list set up for the team in your area (for example, (xxx_area_TDWR_Team), let me know and I'll get the lists set up. I think it's worth a try. Who's on board and which TDWR system are you near? jack 818-227-4220 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
The TLink45 (P5055m) uses DFS2 and is certified for 5.2 and 5.4... but it will only carry 3500-4000 PPS and overall is a POS. Moto PTP series (Orthogon) has 5.4 certified options, but certainly isn't in the price range mentioned. RadWin 2000 will do 100 FDX in those bands and is FCC certified. $5K+ per link though. Redline AN80 another option. Also .$$ Keep in mind you will be using DFS and therefore should be using high performance parabolics if there is any chance of radar activity. Otherwise be ready for 1-minute link drops. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: > If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto > > Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang. > > There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including > ubiquity. > > Mikrotik is not DFS2. > > Jerry Richardson > Sent Mobile > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, "Matt" wrote: > >> Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer >> with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band >> gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant >> in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth >> and a lower price. >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ductch Claim that Wi-Fi is killin Trees
Yes, wi-fi kills trees for sure... When they're in the fresnel zone, we cut them down! -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 12/3/2010 8:36 AM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: > Wi-Fi is killing trees, study finds > Enjoying reading the latest technology news and reviews here on Crave? Hope > you're pleased with yourself, because you're killing a tree. Dutch > researchers have discovered the sad news that Wi-Fi makes trees sick. > The tree-loving folks of Dutch city Alphen aan den Rijn commissioned the > study after finding abnormalities on trees that couldn't be explained by > known viral or bacterial infections. Over the last five years, the study > found that all deciduous trees in the western world are affected by > radiation from mobile-phone<http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/> > networks and wireless LANs. > > Over 70 per cent of trees in urban areas in the Netherlands are afflicted by > Wi-Fi sickness, displaying significant variations in growth, and bleeding > and fissures in their bark. That's compared with just 10 per cent showing > symptoms five years ago. Meanwhile, trees in wooded areas remain happy and > healthy, untroubled by wireless unwellness. > > We've been debating the health issues raised by Wi-Fi since Crave was > knee-high to a router, examining contradictory findings > <http://crave.cnet.co.uk/accessories/crave-talk-is-wi-fi-the-21st-century-pl > ague-49290554/> way back in 2007. Since then, there hasn't been any > conclusive proof whether Wi-Fi is harmful to humans or not. > The Health Protection Agency > <http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/Radiation/UnderstandingRadiation/Understanding > RadiationTopics/ElectromagneticFields/WiFi/> states that "there is no > consistent evidence to date that exposure to radio signals from Wi-Fi and > WLANs adversely affects the health of the general population". A small > number of people suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity -- the > symptoms of which include headaches and nausea -- but there's some debate > about the degree to which those symptoms are actually caused by > electromagnetic fields. > > Generally speaking, our exposure to radio signals from Wi-Fi is well below > government safety levels, and much lower than from mobile phones, in part > because you don't walk around with a router clamped to your ear. You'd have > to live in a Wi-Fi hotspot for a year to absorb the same amount of radio > waves as you would from a 20-minute phone call, and there's no concrete > evidence that mobile phones are bad for you either. If you're worried, just > make yourself a hat out of tin foil. > We like trees an' all, but they're no Internet. There's only one thing for > it: we'll just have to launch all the forests into space > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckJBvl_uT0> . Right, time to make like a > tree and leave. > > > Read more: > http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/wi-fi-is-killing-trees-study-finds-50001681/ > #ixzz173UMdYiX > <http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/wi-fi-is-killing-trees-study-finds-50001681 > /> > > I think their comparison to mobile is bunk. > I always have my router clamed to my ear when I am using Wi-Fi ... > > > Victoria Proffer - President/CEO > StLouisBroadband.com<http://stlbroadband.com/> > ShowMeBroadband.com<http://showmebroadband.com/> > 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 > Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband > St. Louis WISP since 2003 > SBA Certified WOSB > <http://stlbroadband.com/> > WISPA Board of Directors 2010 - 2011 > WISPA - Missouri State Coordinator > <http://wispa.org/> > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and > may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, > be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this e-mail > or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting or > destroying the e-mail and any attachments without retaining any copies. > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982
Here's an article about the incident with additional photos: http://ethics.tamu.edu/ethics/tvtower/tv3.htm -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 11/9/2010 4:29 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: > This disaster was used as an example when I was in engineering school. > Why the engineering drawings need to be followed and avoid "field > redesigns". > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982
This disaster was used as an example when I was in engineering school. Why the engineering drawings need to be followed and avoid "field redesigns". -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 11/9/2010 3:41 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > I was looking for something non related to this and came across this > video. > > > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1192512888 > > > Be safe out there. > > > > -- > Marco C. Coelho > Argon Technologies Inc. > POB 875 > Greenville, TX 75403-0875 > 903-455-5036 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring
Yes, basically anything that can pull SNMP data is canopy friendly. But being able to update firmware with a few clicks, add new alerts without digging through piles of MIBs, monitor SMs without needing to assign IP addresses to them, etc. are nice things about Prizm. You can do it all with a third party app, but is it worth it to pay your network admins to customize the system rather than just buying some Prizm licenses? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 10/14/2010 4:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Powercode, Jon's software and boss are all canopy friendly. > > On Oct 14, 2010 4:40 PM, "Patrick Shoemaker" > <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: > > It is expensive, and has some quirks, and can be a pain to configure, > > but it is definitely the best choice for close integration with Motorola > > equipment. There is a customer management module in there and there are > > reports for top bandwidth users, etc. > > > > Patrick Shoemaker > > Vector Data Systems LLC > > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> > > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > > On 10/14/2010 3:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> I've heard it is decent but expensive. > >> > >> On Oct 14, 2010 2:28 PM, "Carl Shivers" <mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net> > >> <mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net <mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net>>> wrote: > >> > A bit. I've heard that Prizm isn't all it's cracked up to be. > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> > >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>] On > >> > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > >> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:35 AM > >> > To: WISPA General List > >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring > >> > > >> > If this is all Motorola, have you looked at Prizm? > >> > > >> > Patrick Shoemaker > >> > Vector Data Systems LLC > >> > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> > >> <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> > >> > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > >> > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > >> > > >> > On 10/14/2010 11:58 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: > >> >> We have a monitoring system, but it doesn't meet the needs of our > >> >> Customer Service side of the company. > >> >> > >> >> I would like to have a GUI to see Networks by locations showing > the APs > >> >> and their SMs. I'm using Canopy 900 MHz with connected SMs. They > would > >> >> like to be able to see a mouse over so they could identify the > customers > >> >> when an outage occurs giving customer data and location. > >> >> > >> >> Because of bandwidth consumption by some of our customers, the > old 80 - > >> >> 20 rule, I would also like to start capturing the Byte throughput > on my > >> >> customers so I can set bandwidth caps and tiered bandwidth usage > >> services. > >> >> > >> >> Any thoughts on what might be best for this? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> > >> >> > >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> > >
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring
It is expensive, and has some quirks, and can be a pain to configure, but it is definitely the best choice for close integration with Motorola equipment. There is a customer management module in there and there are reports for top bandwidth users, etc. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 10/14/2010 3:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I've heard it is decent but expensive. > > On Oct 14, 2010 2:28 PM, "Carl Shivers" <mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net>> wrote: > > A bit. I've heard that Prizm isn't all it's cracked up to be. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On > > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:35 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring > > > > If this is all Motorola, have you looked at Prizm? > > > > Patrick Shoemaker > > Vector Data Systems LLC > > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> > > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > > On 10/14/2010 11:58 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: > >> We have a monitoring system, but it doesn't meet the needs of our > >> Customer Service side of the company. > >> > >> I would like to have a GUI to see Networks by locations showing the APs > >> and their SMs. I'm using Canopy 900 MHz with connected SMs. They would > >> like to be able to see a mouse over so they could identify the customers > >> when an outage occurs giving customer data and location. > >> > >> Because of bandwidth consumption by some of our customers, the old 80 - > >> 20 rule, I would also like to start capturing the Byte throughput on my > >> customers so I can set bandwidth caps and tiered bandwidth usage > services. > >> > >> Any thoughts on what might be best for this? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > > > > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring
If this is all Motorola, have you looked at Prizm? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 10/14/2010 11:58 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: > We have a monitoring system, but it doesn’t meet the needs of our > Customer Service side of the company. > > I would like to have a GUI to see Networks by locations showing the APs > and their SMs. I’m using Canopy 900 MHz with connected SMs. They would > like to be able to see a mouse over so they could identify the customers > when an outage occurs giving customer data and location. > > Because of bandwidth consumption by some of our customers, the old 80 – > 20 rule, I would also like to start capturing the Byte throughput on my > customers so I can set bandwidth caps and tiered bandwidth usage services. > > Any thoughts on what might be best for this? > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: EFF needs your help to stop the Senate's DNScensorship bill
And here are mine, in case anyone wants to copy and modify: Mr. Cardin: I am writing as a Maryland resident, an Internet user, and the owner of a Maryland-based Internet Service Provider that serves Maryland businesses. I would like to voice my opposition to S. 3804, the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act. I realize that combating software piracy, copyright infringement, and counterfeit material is an important goal given the increasing prevalence of these nefarious activities in today's online world. However, the methodology proposed in this act to fight these disreputable activities is not aligned with the best interests of Internet users and network operators worldwide. Of particular concern is the proposed ability of the US government to make alterations to the Internet's Domain Name System (DNS) in order to limit access to domains that are deemed to be supporting copyright infringement, software piracy, or other illegal activity. Please consider the following when voting on S. 3804 tomorrow: -Allowing government control of DNS adds a layer of censorship to the Internet as a whole. The commercial and public success of the Internet is based in no small part to its open nature. Adding government censorship to a key component of the Internet goes against the principles that led to its success. -Implementing government-based DNS censorship will add significant administrative burden to network operators. This will result in increased cost to consumers for their residential Internet connections. Additionally, this burden will be particularly onerous for smaller ISPs that can't leverage the economies of scale that nationwide operators enjoy. -Censoring the Internet's DNS will surely result in the development of alternative name-resolution services that circumvent the goals of COICA. This will not only negate the purpose of the act, but will add an unnecessary layer of complexity to the Internet as a whole. The net result will be decreased network reliability and increased cost. I would encourage the Senate Judiciary Committee to pursue alternate means to limit illegal Internet activity. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems, LLC http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/28/2010 4:19 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > If anyone interested, these are my comments that I sent to my Maryland > senator. > > Dear Senator, > > My understanding is that the Senate Judiciary Committee is currently > considering the newly proposed Internet Censorship and Copyright bill. I > am a Maryland ISP, and writing this letter to strongly appose this bill. > Implementing this bill, would force Internet Access Providers to > compromise their DNS (Domain Name System) to blacklist and censor > Internet Domain Names. Such an act could destroy the USA’s dominant > ownership and control position of the Internet, both in the US and World > Wide, for numerous reasons. > > 1) If DNS censorship were to be implemented, the US would look like > Hypocrite. How can we promote an open and free Internet, and then > simultaneously mandate practices that do the opposite, and censor > content and content providers. > > 2) ISPs are accountable and liable to their customers, both ethically > and contractually. It is inappropriate for an ISP to block content or > compromise their customer’s Internet experience, based on the claims > made by third party blacklisting companies, because the ISP would have > no reasonable way to verify the accuracy of the provided blacklist data. > Simply asking ISPs to trust the data is inappropriate. > > 3) ISPs should not be forced to determine what is and what isn’t legal > content. That is the job of the courts and/or trained law enforcement. > Access Providers have systems in place to “pass data”, and in most cases > are agnostic to the actual content that passes. In some cases, privacy > policies prevent ISPs from even looking at it. It therefore is > inappropriate for ISPs to be forced to blacklist domains in DNS, when > they may not have a reasonable way to verify whether content is legal or > not. > > 4) What’s most important is that we do not lose sight that we play in a > GLOBAL market place, not only a US market place. The US currently has > the majority market share of in Internet hosting collocation, and > hosting Broadband traffic. This market share leverages the US to > maintain significant control of the Internet, both politically and > competitively. If the US were to impose anti-neutral conditions on > broadband providers and ISPs, such as to force them to censor domains in > the DNS system, Content providers would likely move their servers > oversees. If the US loses its hosting market share, it could result in > the US and US carriers losing control of the Inte
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
Check your math... Best case scenarios: c = 3e8 m/s = 3e5 km/s l = 22000 mi = 35406 km (35406 km) / (30 km/s) = 0.118 s = 118 ms Round trip packet time due to RF delays only from ground point to ground point = 472 ms Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/22/2010 9:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The latency can't be because of the distance. Rf travels too fast for that. I expect there are large modem banks on the satellite. On Sep 22, 2010 9:40 PM, "Greg Ihnen" <mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com>> wrote: That's the speed of light in a vacuum. It's somewhat slower in matter (air). I use satellite internet here and the latency is a little under 800ms at best. A ping has to go from my terminal up to the satellite, down to the earth station, back up from the earth station, and back down to my terminal. I blink at least once waiting for my ping to come back. Greg On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Totally agree. > >> When your Internet has to ... WISPA Wants You! Jo... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted!
Hey, that looks like our Hughes Memorial Tower here in DC: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Washington,+District+of+Columbia&ll=38.963889,-77.027759&spn=0,0.006539&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.963786,-77.027765&panoid=4Ar2-y_7Pek7ryLgjPdMUA&cbp=12,142.6,,0,-30.81 761 feet. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/14/2010 12:24 PM, RickG wrote: > I know what you mean! In West Palm, we were on a 550' monster off I-95. > You could see it for miles around. The equipment 330' up on a standoff > that was 10' from the tower, 330' up. I admit, it took me two separate > tries to get the guts to walk out on it. Pics attached. We were plagued > by lightning hits that picked on the switch in the enclosure at the top. > I moved the enclosure off the standoff and left the radios on the mast > on the standoff which helped a lot. Eventually, I ran fiber up and that > fixed the issue altogether. > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Justin Wilson <mailto:li...@mtin.net>> wrote: > > If it is a2-3 foot standoff it gets tricky. I replaced a 2 foot > dish on a 3 foot standoff last year. Clipped the lobster tails to > the tower and had to use the positioning hooks to balance myself on > the end of the standoff. One of those places where once you get it > positioned its fairly comfortable. Takes a little getting used not > having any tower under you though. > > Had to go out on this standoff once: > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30529837&l=89297015d2&id=1289017769 > > <http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30529837&l=89297015d2&id=1289017769> > > > -- > Justin Wilson http://j...@mtin.net>> > http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News > http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter > Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support > > > > > *From: *Mike Hammett <http://wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> > > *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <http://wireless@wispa.org>> > *Date: *Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:59:24 -0500 > > *To: *WISPA General List <http://wireless@wispa.org>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting pics wanted! > > I have no idea how people use standoffs. How do you access the > gear on the standoff? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > On 9/13/2010 9:36 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > > > I know you got ‘em. > > > > I’m looking for some nice pics of the various ways of mounting > sector antennas. I have a tower with 5 to 10 and even 20” > structural tube to mount to, three sided classic 1980’s tower. > 300 footer. I’m the king at ripping off designs and welding > up my own (sorry, my bad) and am looking for some good ideas > for this thing. > > > > I’d say pretty please but I’m not that pretty and I never > please. Well, so says the wife.. **sigh** > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <http://wireless@wispa.org> > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <http://wireless@wispa.org> > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -
Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default
I would make sure that the SNMP community string is set to something other than default, and disable write access if you're not using that functionality. I forget if it's enabled by default, but I think it is for Prizm. Also, might want to upgrade that software? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/9/2010 11:31 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >Patrick, > > This unit has run seamlessly for over 5 years then dumped to default > twice in a day. I changed passwords again the second time and it hasn't > happened yet, but that was just yesterday. We had other network issues > at the same time that may have contributed. When we've had other issues > we lost the two other Moto backhauls as well, the hazard of bridged > networking. > > Thanks, > Forbes > > On 9/9/2010 7:15 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >> I don't see much of anything useful in there. Is there anything in >> common with the ones that have lost their config? Same site, same power >> supply, same manufacturing batch, etc? >> >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> On 9/8/2010 10:22 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >>> Patrick this is today's event log, no there's no sync, does this help?: >>> >>> >>> 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : >>> CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : >>> CANOPYBOOT 1.0 >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES >>> 03:30:18 UT : 09/08/10 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set >>> 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage. >>> 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set >>> 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset >>> Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 99 Max ExtInt 717 >>> Cur DecInt 68 Max DecInt 180 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 47 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 >>> Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 6 Max FEC 328 Cur FPGA 93 Max FPGA >>> 488 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0 >>> 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** >>> 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : >>> CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES >>> 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : >>> CANOPYBOOT 1.0 >>> 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 >>> 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES >>> 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set >>> 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset >>> Exception -- External Hard Reset >>> 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : >>> CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : >>> CANOPYBOOT 1.0 >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 >>> 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES >>> 00:13:50 UT : 01/01/00 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage. >>> 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set >>> 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File >>> C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset >>> Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 0 Max ExtInt 66 Cur >>> DecInt 60 Max DecInt 178 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 65 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 Cur >>> EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 0 Max FEC 60 Cur FPGA 0 Max FPGA 61 Cur >>> FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0 >>> 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** &
Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default
I don't see much of anything useful in there. Is there anything in common with the ones that have lost their config? Same site, same power supply, same manufacturing batch, etc? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/8/2010 10:22 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > Patrick this is today's event log, no there's no sync, does this help?: > > > 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : > CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : > CANOPYBOOT 1.0 > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES > 03:30:18 UT : 09/08/10 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set > 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage. > 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set > 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset > Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 99 Max ExtInt 717 > Cur DecInt 68 Max DecInt 180 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 47 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 > Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 6 Max FEC 328 Cur FPGA 93 Max FPGA > 488 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0 > 17:47:59 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** > 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : > CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES > 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : > CANOPYBOOT 1.0 > 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 > 17:48:00 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES > 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set > 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset > Exception -- External Hard Reset > 00:00:00 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : > CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : > CANOPYBOOT 1.0 > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 > 00:00:01 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES > 00:13:50 UT : 01/01/00 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage. > 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set > 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset > Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 0 Max ExtInt 66 Cur > DecInt 60 Max DecInt 178 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 65 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 Cur > EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 0 Max FEC 60 Cur FPGA 0 Max FPGA 61 Cur > FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0 > 00:10:34 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** > 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : > CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES > 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : > CANOPYBOOT 1.0 > 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 > 00:10:35 UT : 01/01/00 : File root.c : Line 891 FPGA Features : DES > 18:45:04 UT : 09/08/10 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set > 18:56:43 UT : 09/08/10 : File httptask.c : Line 616 Reboot from Webpage. > 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 1055 Time set > 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File > C:/ISIPPC/pssppc.250/bsps/devices/whisp/syslog.c : Line 914 System Reset > Exception -- External Hard Reset WatchDog Cur ExtInt 27 Max ExtInt 601 > Cur DecInt 52 Max DecInt 176 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 34 Cur LED 0 Max LED 1 > Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 4 Max FEC 267 Cur FPGA 23 Max FPGA > 405 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 AAState 0 > 18:56:40 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 874 **System Startup** > 18:56:41 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 879 Software Version : > CANOPY4.2.1 Apr 16 2004 15:23:05 BH-DES > 18:56:41 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 883 Software Boot Version : > CANOPYBOOT 1.0 > 18:56:41 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 887 FPGA Version : 06240318 > 18:56:41 UT : 09/08/10 : File root.c : Line 8
Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default
Okay, if it is the PTP100/200 series, is the event log being preserved after the reset to defaults? Did you change just the user passwords or did you change the SNMP community string as well? Do you have anything plugged in to the timing port? What is the setting for the default plug action set to- reset to defaults or just bypass user login? If PTP400/500/600 series, the reset signal is sent over the power conductors feeding the ODU. It's feasible that a cable or PIDU problem could cause erroneous resets. But the same cable or PIDU problem on three separate radios would be unlikely. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/8/2010 8:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The subject says BH as in BH10 or BH20... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Patrick Shoemaker > wrote: >> PTP400/500/800 is a completely different platform than PTP100/200. >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> On 9/8/2010 8:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> It's all the same hardware isn't it? >> >> On Sep 8, 2010 7:53 PM, "Patrick Shoemaker" >> wrote: >> >> First it would help to know what model BH you have. >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> On 9/8/2010 6:08 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >>> This is the third Motorola backhaul where the remote en... >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default
PTP400/500/800 is a completely different platform than PTP100/200. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/8/2010 8:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It's all the same hardware isn't it? On Sep 8, 2010 7:53 PM, "Patrick Shoemaker" <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> wrote: First it would help to know what model BH you have. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com <mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/8/2010 6:08 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > This is the third Motorola backhaul where the remote en... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moto BH Reset to Default
First it would help to know what model BH you have. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 9/8/2010 6:08 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > This is the third Motorola backhaul where the remote end reset it's > settings to default. I've changed passwords and it did it again within > an hour of leaving. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Forbes Mercy > Washington Broadband, Inc. > forbes.me...@wabroadband.com > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Plastic jacket is the major cause of ESD damage...
Yup, wind will do it, though in a rainstorm I'd expect that the water on the surface of the jacket would provide a good enough path to ground to dissipate the charge. I would also expect that if your UTP cable is directly attached to the metal tower structure at either end, you wouldn't have any problems with flashover at the ends of the cable as described by Mike Ford. But if there are any long sections of cable that aren't directly touching the tower structure, I suppose it would be possible for the static charge to jump through the cable insulation and reach the ethernet conductors. If you have a lightning protector at either end of the cable, this wouldn't matter much as the energy would go to ground through this instead of through the ethernet chipset in your radio or switch. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 8/26/2010 11:08 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Mr. Shoemaker, So the effect you are describing below is the result of wind rather than induced energy from a nearby lightning strike? When I was a maritime radio officer I witnessed very strong static electricity on non-dc grounded antennas during storms. I've seen repeated rapid static discharges across PL-259 connectors that went on for minutes as a rain squall blew past. I assume you're talking about this effect. If plain old non-shielded ethernet cable is wired tied to antenna support, down the tower and to cable tray at the bottom of the tower doesn't that give the static charge on the outside of the jacket a place to go? Greg On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: Mike ford is describing electrostatic charge buildup on the outside of the cable jacket. This occurs because the friction between air molecules moving by and the surface of the cable jacket causes a charge separation on the surface of the jacket. In conductive materials this charge would simply bleed off, but a good plastic cable insulator will retain the charge on the surface of the jacket until the voltage is so high that it exceeds the breakdown voltage of the jacket. Then the charge dissipates through the nearest path to ground, which could be through a sensitive electronic component in the radio. Shielded cables and connectors will solve this problem by dumping the charge to ground once it builds up enough to jump through the cable jacket. This is different than the usual EMI scenarios we look at as WISPs--namely induced currents in ethernet cables due to strong nearby electric fields. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 8/26/2010 9:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Mike Ford says in this post: http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22612&page=3 === Hello, Using STP with AirGrid/NB give buildup of ESD along the Ethernet cables plastic jacket a place to go other then the radio. The Ethernet cables plastic jacket is the major cause of damage to our devices if they are not grounded at the base of the tower or have no provisions for ground. Once the charge on the outside of that jacket passed 25-30kV it has enough potential to ark OVER the top of the plastic RJ45 connector and onto the Ethernet pins of the Ethernet lines. If you have a grounded cable, that is properly grounded at the base of the tower, this will provide the path of least resistance for the ESD buildup on the Ethernet cabling. The whole goal is to prevent the static from ARcing to the Ethernet lines damaging the devices. === I always thought the ESD was picked up and transferred through the metal components on a cable. I never considered the plastic jacket the source or transmission medium for a high-voltage static discharge. This would seem to indicate if you lose the jacket and had a naked cable that you would eliminate the ESD problem - but somehow I don't buy that either. Those of you electrical gurus please enlighten me. Either something isn't right (or needs further explanation) or I just learned something I never knew... maybe both :)Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Plastic jacket is the major cause of ESD damage...
Mike ford is describing electrostatic charge buildup on the outside of the cable jacket. This occurs because the friction between air molecules moving by and the surface of the cable jacket causes a charge separation on the surface of the jacket. In conductive materials this charge would simply bleed off, but a good plastic cable insulator will retain the charge on the surface of the jacket until the voltage is so high that it exceeds the breakdown voltage of the jacket. Then the charge dissipates through the nearest path to ground, which could be through a sensitive electronic component in the radio. Shielded cables and connectors will solve this problem by dumping the charge to ground once it builds up enough to jump through the cable jacket. This is different than the usual EMI scenarios we look at as WISPs--namely induced currents in ethernet cables due to strong nearby electric fields. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 8/26/2010 9:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Mike Ford says in this post: http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22612&page=3 === Hello, Using STP with AirGrid/NB give buildup of ESD along the Ethernet cables plastic jacket a place to go other then the radio. The Ethernet cables plastic jacket is the major cause of damage to our devices if they are not grounded at the base of the tower or have no provisions for ground. Once the charge on the outside of that jacket passed 25-30kV it has enough potential to ark OVER the top of the plastic RJ45 connector and onto the Ethernet pins of the Ethernet lines. If you have a grounded cable, that is properly grounded at the base of the tower, this will provide the path of least resistance for the ESD buildup on the Ethernet cabling. The whole goal is to prevent the static from ARcing to the Ethernet lines damaging the devices. === I always thought the ESD was picked up and transferred through the metal components on a cable. I never considered the plastic jacket the source or transmission medium for a high-voltage static discharge. This would seem to indicate if you lose the jacket and had a naked cable that you would eliminate the ESD problem - but somehow I don't buy that either. Those of you electrical gurus please enlighten me. Either something isn't right (or needs further explanation) or I just learned something I never knew... maybe both :)Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] contract for use or tower
If you can't find what you need on the Wiki, let me know and I will forward along tower contracts I've used in the past. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Liam Cummings wrote: > K working on it now > > > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:27 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] contract for use or tower > > > > I think there are multiple contracts on the Wiki, and I have some that > are commercial contracts. Join up! > > > > Regards, > > Chuck Hogg > > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> > > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Liam Cummings > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:18 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] contract for use or tower > > > > This is the only reply I got on this. I guess I have no takers. L > > > > I can become a member today but I highly doubt the sample contracts will > be what I am looking for. > > > > Thanks > > > > Liam > > > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Chuck Bartosch > *Sent:* Monday, August 02, 2010 9:47 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] contract for use or tower > > > > If you're a WISPA member, I think the wiki has a number of sample contracts. > > Chuck > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 2, 2010, at 8:50 AM, "Liam Cummings" > <mailto:lcummi...@datacomspecialists.com>> wrote: > > I’m looking for a good contract to use for exclusive use of > someone’s tower. Anyone want to share what they have with us? Would > save me tons of time. J > > > > > > TX > > > > Liam > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need a Trango P5055M-EXT single end
I think this is kosher since it's Friday and all... I need a single end of a Trango P5055m. EXT version (connectorized). Not the Atlas 5010m, the TLink45 P5055m. If anyone has one, please email me offlist with a price. Thanks, -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generators
Oversize. It's the most practical way to ensure stability when powering a load that can have a poor power factor or a leading power factor. Datacenter loads being a perfect example. Switching power supplies with poor input filtering, UPSes that dump their entire load on the genset all at once, variable frequency drives on HVAC equipment, etc. are all present in datacenter loads and will all wreak havoc on your generator. I recommend reading this article: http://www.cumminspower.com/www/literature/technicalpapers/PT-6001-ImpactofPowerFactorLoads-en.pdf Any new generator in that size range will have an electronic governor, this is a must. There are lots of small things to consider, like block heaters if you are in a cold climate, and using algaecide if you're storing diesel. Find a vendor who knows what they're doing. Finally, monitoring. Make sure the generator has a built-in control system that will report errors. Most do this with a simple dry contact closure. You can tie this in to your building monitoring system if you have one to alert you if there is a problem, or attach to a SNMP capable device and monitor it using Nagios or whatever your network monitoring system is. Generators need to be tested frequently. Even the best ones love to die at very inopportune times. Mine exercise weekly and I run a load test every month after hours. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Chuck Hogg wrote: > Ok, so I am in the market for a Generator. Looking for probably > 30-45kW. I’ve heard people say I need a PMG Exciter?? Anyone with > experience in doing this? It’s to support our datacenter, a few racks, > a few 2200 UPS’s and PDU’s, and Cooling. I find all kinds of different > ones on eBay and elsewhere, and am hoping someone already did the > legwork and figured out everything they needed and can share? > > > > Regards, > > Chuck Hogg > > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> > > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ClearWire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_McCaw Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Chuck Profito wrote: > ??? > I know it was an old database #, so I tried it and got thru, I'm sure the > ext tree is not past you. mcc > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:33 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ClearWire > > Smart ass > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 6/30/2010 12:03 AM, Chuck Profito wrote: >> Craig McCaw >> Craig McCaw Headquarters >> 2300 CARILLON POINT >> Kirkland Washington 98033 >> Telephone: (425) 216-7600 >> Toll Free: 800-305-5873 >> Fax: (425) 216-7900 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:23 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] ClearWire >> >> Does anyone have a non consumer-facing contact at ClearWire? >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vox outage
The tubes are flowing again... Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Patrick Shoemaker wrote: > They're a wholesale telephone carrier. They should have a nontechnical > staff member available to take calls from their resellers in these > situations. > > And yes, I see that we've got IP connectivity back to them. Devices > haven't started to reregister yet though. > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > Jeremie Chism wrote: >> An administrative person to answer calls and give an eta would be nice. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> From my standpoint, would my customers rather me babble on the phone >>> with them about the problems, or fix them? >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/30/2010 9:29 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>>> I'm sure they are aware of the problem, but it's simply poor business >>>> practice to not be able to communicate with their customers during a >>>> service outage. >>>> >>>> Service disruptions make customers unhappy. Service disruptions with no >>>> information provided to customers make them REALLY unhappy. >>>> >>>> Patrick Shoemaker >>>> Vector Data Systems LLC >>>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just like my support line that runs over VoIP. If you can't call me, I >>>>> know the Internet is down. If you can't call them, I'm sure they know >>>>> the service is down. >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/30/2010 9:03 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, IP connectivity to their SIP servers is gone so everything is down >>>>>> hard. Sure would be nice if they ran their support line out of band. >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker >>>>>> Vector Data Systems LLC >>>>>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >>>>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>>>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeremie Chism wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone else using vox experiencing an outage. I am unable to get anyone >>>>>>> there to figure out what is going on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>
Re: [WISPA] Vox outage
They're a wholesale telephone carrier. They should have a nontechnical staff member available to take calls from their resellers in these situations. And yes, I see that we've got IP connectivity back to them. Devices haven't started to reregister yet though. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jeremie Chism wrote: > An administrative person to answer calls and give an eta would be nice. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> From my standpoint, would my customers rather me babble on the phone >> with them about the problems, or fix them? >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> On 6/30/2010 9:29 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>> I'm sure they are aware of the problem, but it's simply poor business >>> practice to not be able to communicate with their customers during a >>> service outage. >>> >>> Service disruptions make customers unhappy. Service disruptions with no >>> information provided to customers make them REALLY unhappy. >>> >>> Patrick Shoemaker >>> Vector Data Systems LLC >>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>> >>> >>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> Just like my support line that runs over VoIP. If you can't call me, I >>>> know the Internet is down. If you can't call them, I'm sure they know >>>> the service is down. >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/30/2010 9:03 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, IP connectivity to their SIP servers is gone so everything is down >>>>> hard. Sure would be nice if they ran their support line out of band. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Shoemaker >>>>> Vector Data Systems LLC >>>>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >>>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jeremie Chism wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else using vox experiencing an outage. I am unable to get anyone >>>>>> there to figure out what is going on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> --
Re: [WISPA] Vox outage
Has anyone got any working contact method for anyone at Vox? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jeremie Chism wrote: > Anyone else using vox experiencing an outage. I am unable to get anyone there > to figure out what is going on. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vox outage
I'm sure they are aware of the problem, but it's simply poor business practice to not be able to communicate with their customers during a service outage. Service disruptions make customers unhappy. Service disruptions with no information provided to customers make them REALLY unhappy. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike Hammett wrote: > Just like my support line that runs over VoIP. If you can't call me, I > know the Internet is down. If you can't call them, I'm sure they know > the service is down. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 6/30/2010 9:03 AM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >> Yes, IP connectivity to their SIP servers is gone so everything is down >> hard. Sure would be nice if they ran their support line out of band. >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> Jeremie Chism wrote: >> >>> Anyone else using vox experiencing an outage. I am unable to get anyone >>> there to figure out what is going on. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vox outage
Yes, IP connectivity to their SIP servers is gone so everything is down hard. Sure would be nice if they ran their support line out of band. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jeremie Chism wrote: > Anyone else using vox experiencing an outage. I am unable to get anyone there > to figure out what is going on. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP Contract
I hope you can find something slightly more interesting to post to your facebook profile! Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jerry Richardson wrote: > So I assume that means I can't post it on my Facebook page? > > JK > > - Jerry > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:58 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP Contract > > Well that was supposed to go offlist, would appreciate it being shared > only with WISPA members, even though it's now all over the place. > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> Chuck Hogg wrote: >>> Does anyone have a contract for VoIP that has wording in it for network >>> outages and the like for us WISPs to protect us? Care to share? Offlist >>> is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Chuck Hogg >>> >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> >>> http://www.shelbybb.com <http://www.shelbybb.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP Contract
This is the public list. [WISPA Members] and [WISP] are the restricted lists. Oops... Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Josh Luthman wrote: > We're all WISPA members on this list, I believe. Or is this list not > restricted? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Patrick Shoemaker > wrote: >> Well that was supposed to go offlist, would appreciate it being shared >> only with WISPA members, even though it's now all over the place. >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>> Patrick Shoemaker >>> Vector Data Systems LLC >>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>> >>> >>> Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>> Does anyone have a contract for VoIP that has wording in it for network >>>> outages and the like for us WISPs to protect us? Care to share? Offlist >>>> is fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Chuck Hogg >>>> >>>> Shelby Broadband >>>> 502-722-9292 >>>> ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> >>>> http://www.shelbybb.com <http://www.shelbybb.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP Contract
Well that was supposed to go offlist, would appreciate it being shared only with WISPA members, even though it's now all over the place. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Patrick Shoemaker wrote: > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > Chuck Hogg wrote: >> Does anyone have a contract for VoIP that has wording in it for network >> outages and the like for us WISPs to protect us? Care to share? Offlist >> is fine. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Chuck Hogg >> >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> >> http://www.shelbybb.com <http://www.shelbybb.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips
GFCIs do nothing to protect your equipment from surges, spikes, etc. All they do is interrupt the circuit if the current flowing on the hot conductor is not equal to the current flowing on the neutral conductor, which indicates that some current is leaking to ground. You need a TVSS to arrest surges, spikes, etc. Your equipment should not be plugged into a GFCI outlet. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com RickG wrote: > I suppose you have to weigh between possibly losing an occational > power supply or outages causing multiple truck rolls. > What I really want to know is using a GFCI outlet standard proceedure > for tower installations? > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Tom Sharples wrote: >> They may have saved your gear tho. We do use them on installs in industrial >> yards, ports, etc. and there I'm quite sure they saved several camaeras, >> swiches and power supplies from an untimely demise. >> >> Tom S. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Blair Davis >> To: WISPA General List >> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips >> >> >> GFCI's around here trip every time the lightning flashes. >> >> I won't use them to power radio gear. >> >> >> >> RickG wrote: >> Anyone had any issues with a GFCI outlet (not breaker) tripping? I've >> had several outages on this tower and want to stop it. Personally, I >> dont think the GFCI is necessary as the box is in a class 6 NEMA >> enclosure. Any thoughts? >> Thanks in advance! >> -RickG >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Internal Virus Database is out of date. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 >> 07:35:00 >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems
With standard FSK Canopy (7/14 Mbps) you can re-use frequencies on back-to-back sectors only. There is no throughput hit for doing so. Think about what the GPS sync does- it causes all AP transmission timeslots to occur simultaneously, and all receive timeslots to be synchronized. So colocated APs will never be receiving while another is transmitting, avoiding self-interference. However, SMs receiving from a transmitting AP cluster must have enough separation between APs transmitting on the same frequency so that the signal from the desired AP is above the minimum SNR for the given modulation (10 dB for 2x mode) when compared to another AP transmitting on the same frequency. This can be achieved with a standard Canopy AP module by placing them back to back--the front/back ratio on the antennas provides more than 10 dB isolation. But a SM placed at the edge of two 60 degree sectors wouldn't have nearly enough isolation between the two sectors if they were running on the same frequency to maintain an acceptable SNR. So in short, you need three channels to run a standard 6 AP sector GPS sync'd with Canopy. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike Hammett wrote: > Going in a different direction... > > Can you reuse a given frequency on every sector around a tower (4x or > 6x), or are you limited to something less than that? Do you get full > capacity on each sector, or are you limited to some percentage of that > full capacity if you use the same channel all the way around? > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 6/14/2010 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LOA for VoIP
Attached. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Chuck Hogg wrote: Does anyone have any standard LOA's for their VoIP agreements? We've been using one, but would like to see what others are doing? You can attach and send to me offlist. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> http://www.shelbybb.com <http://www.shelbybb.com> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ LOA.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] HSS for RW2000
Does anyone know if it is possible to use a straight through cat-5 cable to connect the HSS ports on two RADWIN 2000 radios (without using an HSS module)? If so, anyone know the electrical specs on these signals so I can use proper surge protection? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: RAdwin 2000 freq and channel change?
You must be logged in as installer to perform a freq. band change. However operator can change frequencies within a band. L series will support max 20 MHz channel BW. C series lets you do 40 with the latest firmware. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 6/8/2010 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > Load your Radwin Manager > Login as Operator or Installer > In the Top left click on Link Configurator. > Hit next twice (I think) and you should land on the Channel settings page. > You can set width and Allowed frequencies. > Finish through the wizard to changes settings on the link. > > Steve Barnes > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:14 PM > To: WISPA General List; motor...@afmug.com > Subject: [WISPA] OT: RAdwin 2000 freq and channel change? > > Anyone knows how to change channel bandwidth and operating freq range on the > Radwin 2000? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] TLink45 integrated for connectorized trade?
I've got a TLink45 radio with integrated 23 dBi antennas. Anyone want to trade for a connectorized version? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades
Hardcoding one side of an ethernet link to 100/FDX and leaving the other on autonegotiate will result in a duplex mismatch due to the way the autonegotiation works. Cisco has a nice article about this: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech_note09186a00800a7af0.shtml Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Steve Barnes wrote: > *UPDATE* > > The new 2.4.50 firmware does work with hardware version 3. It does not make > any performance increase, that only happens for Hardware version 4. It is > more sensitive on the Ethernet Cable side and best to hard code to FDX. The > issue I had was that the router was hard coded FDX but the Radwin was auto > and it was falling to half some of the time and loosing connection. Sounds > like I may have a questionable crimp. > > > Steve Barnes > Manager > PCS-WIN > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Barnes > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades > > Danger, Will Robinson, Danger. > > For those of you who have the Rad-Win 2000 series and are looking forward to > the firmware upgrade to take them to 100Mb Fdx. Be careful. The firmware > came out and I (stupidly) applied it. IT went on without a hitch and > rebooted the radios. They came up and started passing traffic. No > improvement in speed (rats). Then one end locked up. I rebooted it and it > started working. HMMM! That's concerning. 1hour later the other end locked > up. Hmmm! Call Tech support. They had me do a hardware Inventory and found > out that my Rad-wins are hardware version 3 the upgrade was for hardware > version 4 and above. Nowhere did it state this and nowhere did the firmware > updater check to make sure that I had new enough units. Why did the firmware > go on in the first place if they weren't compatible? Now tech support is > working on how to downgrade. > > What I get for wanting more for free and not waiting for more testing. > > P.S. I love my Rad-Win units. They have worked 110% of the time and very > consistent. > > Steve Barnes > Manager > PCS-WIN > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 6 mile 100MB link 5Ghz non-licensed
I just put one of these (Radwin 2000 C series) in and it seems like a quality unit so far. No production traffic going over it yet though. I'm confused about the 40 MHz channel (100 FDX) though- I just spoke with one of their support engineers yesterday and the firmware is still not available for this... Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jerry Richardson wrote: > just got an email this morning that radwin has a new 100m Fdx link > that runsbin all bands. > > they claim it's very cost competetive but no pricing on the email. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 12, 2010, at 8:50 AM, "Scott Carullo" > wrote: > >> What are your recommendations? I now this has been asked before but >> now >> I'm asking again (opinions and equipment changes). >> >> Budget is not really a problem on this link, just need it to work >> good. >> Licensed not an option due to its location, can't explain. >> >> Thanks >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> >> >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Radwin 2000 Nagios templates
Does anyone have Nagios definitions written for the RadWin 2000 radios? Something to monitor the basics like modulation level, RSL, etc. If so, mind sharing them? I'm lazy. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISM vs UNII
Thanks for the clarification. When you say "does not allow data", do you mean spread spectrum communications? For example, isn't the little slice of unlicensed spectrum at 49 MHz an ISM band? There are plenty of devices that use that for non spread spectrum "data transmission". Or is this another case of using the term "ISM" too loosely? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com ralphlists wrote: > Not exactly correct. > > You do not want to run under the ISP service! It does not allow data. > It is for devices that do things with RF energy- not ones that "communicate" > > > There is a good old example of a wireless integrator who was using illegal 1 > watt amps on Cisco 340 access points to distribute Internet in Post > Properties apartments. He interfered with Hams (they were running a repeater > with a 2.4 GHz licensed input) and an FCC investigation ensued. When he got > caught with the amps and a fine was discussed, the operator got deeper and > deeper into his lies by saying that he wasn't Part 15, but ISM. Since he > had no ISM license, the fine then went to something like 10 grand a day. > Suddenly he decided maybe Part 15 with illegal amps was a little easier on > the wallet. Anyway, the provider went out of business. > > You can still probably find some stuff about it by Googling. The Company was > Darwin Networks and the place was Houston TX. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:38 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISM vs UNII > > Two different sets of regulations. ISM has more permitted uses and > generally looser rules. UNII has more restrictions but more spectrum is > available than just ISM. > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > On 4/24/2010 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> Whats the diff? >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> >> 787.273.4143 >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISM vs UNII
Two different sets of regulations. ISM has more permitted uses and generally looser rules. UNII has more restrictions but more spectrum is available than just ISM. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 4/24/2010 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Whats the diff? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cheap Bird Deterrent Methods
Yup, use that stuff. Nixilite is another major brand, but be sure to get the plastic stuff to avoid having a bunch of little parasitic antennas sitting right next to your APs. Use a quality structural sealant like GE Silpruf to attach it to your equipment. You can pry it off later if necessary, but it definitely won't be coming off in the wind. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com chris cooper wrote: > http://www.birdbgone.com/products/plastic-bird-spikes > > These work for us. Glue them to the top of your sectors. > > Chris > Intelliwave > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Cheap Bird Deterrent Methods > > Birds suck. Bird crap all over the new sectors, grids, everything. > Tired of coming home smelling of bird crap. I prefer my usual stink. > > Is anyone using the plastic owls or any other weird thing to keep those > flying crap machines off the AP's? i think of it everytime I climb a > grain leg but never do anything about it. This is the year! > > Oh, and racoons. One AP is a 100 foot grain bin with steps up the side. > Racoon poop (i only imagine that it what it is) on every other step. > That I can deal with, I have kids afterall. But the birds just need to > stop. > > Bob- > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP
Ipifony is a WISPA vendor member with a similar solution to the NetSapiens platform. There will be startup costs. If you're looking to offer voice services without big startup costs, you should probably investigate a white label VoIP service. I've been using Vox for several years now and have pleased with the experience. You'll find that the margins are not as high this way, but it will allow you to build a voice customer base without much capital expenditure. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Kevin Sullivan wrote: > We'd like to start offering VoIP to our wireless customers, and we've taken a > look at a couple of packaged soultions like NetSapiens. What is everyone else > using? We'd like to start at a lower $$ than the $17,000 that we've been > hearing from the packaged deals. > > Kevin > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering
There are status LEDs in the beehive one- these won't work with reversed polarity unless they've designed for that scenario... Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > ?? Both of these products are simple passive surge/LA - they don't inject > power or make any distinction if pins 4/5 & 7/8 are positive or negative. > It'll work regardless which PoE standard you're using. > > `S > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:22 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering > > Darn! Need something just like that only for normal polarity. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Patrick Shoemaker > wrote: >> That is different than the 600ss. The 600ss is made by Transtector for >> Motorola and is a Moto part. The one I linked is made by WB Mfg (Chuck >> McCown). I would imagine it only works with Canopy/Trango 24V reverse >> polarity PoE. >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> RickG wrote: >>> Is this the same thing? >>> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=600SS&eq=&Tp= >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Patrick Shoemaker >>> wrote: >>>> This is for Canopy radios: >>>> >>>> http://www.wbmfg.com/products/accessories/surge-suppressor >>>> >>>> Test port, voltage/current indicator LEDs, lightning protection. >>>> Weatherproof enclosure. >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick Shoemaker >>>> Vector Data Systems LLC >>>> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >>>> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >>>> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >>>> >>>> >>>> RickG wrote: >>>>> Lightning season is when I miss my home state of California the most. >>>>> You really dont know what your missing! I feel like the British must >>>>> have felt in WWII during the German bombing runs. Every year, boom, >>>>> boom, boom. (sorry for the dramatics). >>>>> Neither did I include an LP/EMI device in my business model but I also >>>>> didnt count on so many truck rolls. It just becomes a matter of which >>>>> is more cost effective and beneficial to customer satisfaction. I too >>>>> prefer that the customer be there but obviously this is only a side >>>>> benefit along with ease of access. >>>>> At any rate, you're "maintenance adapter" is right on target but I'm >>>>> not big into home made stuff. So, I'm hoping someone knows of a device >>>>> out there that incorporates these features and is factory made. >>>>> -RickG >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Scott Vander Dussen >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Rick- >>>>>> Obviously this application is for a tower (hence APs..). Our pricing >>>>>> model doesn't permit us the extra $20-30 per customer plus installation >>>>>> time etc. to install a LA/EMI Filter for every customer. Lighting isn't >>>>>> really a problem where we are (California) - Since we started in 2002 >>>>>> never had a single tower, customer, anything negatively affected by >>>>>> lighting. >>>>>> >>>>>> That being said - we don't like to do a maintenance call when the >>>>>> customer isn't home b/c then you can't get to their equipment (which may >>>>>> be the problem) or their power supply for the radio etc. When we need >>>>>> to, and the customer isn't home - we have simple "maintenance adapter" >>>>>> that we made - it has two RJ45 jacks and a short CAT5 cable coming out. >>>>>> The adapter is placed in-line between the radio and PoE CAT5 (to >>>>>> customer's power supply in home) - the short CAT5 goes plugs into the >>>>>> radio and the remaining RJ45 port has access to the network only (PoE >>>>>> pins removed) for use in your laptop. >>>>>> >>>>>> Down side is it requires rebooting CPE
Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering
You're welcome. I think the filter will do the trick. I can't find a datasheet for that patricular model, but since it's for automotive use it probably knocks down AM radio frequencies and thus will attenuate the higher FM frequencies even better. Since your power line is directly connected to the power pairs in the cat-5, I'd say it's very likely that's the source of your ethernet errors. The run up the tower is coupling to the FM antenna and re-radiating all that RF back inside your nicely sealed enclosure system. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Patrick- > Got everything except the EMI gasket - didn't know that existed but sounds > cool. I've looked into http://www.zero-ground.com/ for the liquid tight but > went with cheap-o hardware store instead. Not a PoE switch, "hacked" as you > say - but in a professional way. (: Canopy Cyclone APs encased in metal > housings, grounded and all the good stuff.. > > Thanks for your help - I just didn't know if that filter would be any benefit > at all or not, I'll give it a shot and see how we do, thanks again. > > `S > > -Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering > > Yes, I'd start by putting that filter you found on the incoming power to > the switch enclosure. Also, > > -Make sure the door is bonded to the enclosure cabinet with a ground > strap at minimum, preferably metal EMI gasket around door seal also > > -Keep the size of any enclosure penetrations to a minimum, though at FM > frequencies you should be okay here > > -Make sure the liquid tight is bonded to the enclosure and APs > > -Make sure AP cases are bonded to enclosure through equipment grounds > > -You're using shielded RJ45's at both ends of the STP between switch and > APs, right? Is this a PoE switch or is there some hacking of the > ethernet cables going on to inject power for the APs? > > What kind of APs? > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > Scott Vander Dussen wrote: >> Installing APs on a FM tower. Fiber from base of tower > fib/copper switch >> at AP location. STP encased in flexible metal liquid tight from fib/copper >> switch NEMA enclosure to APs. APs are getting eth port errors when in >> 100FDX, locking in 10FDX solves the issue. >> >> 24VDC is injected in to each AP in the NEMA enclosure - I have ferrite beads >> on both ends of the STP (near switch and base of AP) but problem remains. >> Additional ferrite beads on the DC power line, still have issues. I believe >> the majority of EMI is entering through the power cable. I did not run a >> shielded power cable or power through coax or anything intelligent like that >> - just a standard 2-16ga outdoor cable. So I'm looking for something to >> just drain off any conducted FM EMI off that 24VDC power line before it gets >> injected directly on the CAT5 that feeds those APs. >> >> Thanks for reading! >> `S >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:21 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering >> >> Off the ethernet line or power? The EMI filter you posted should do the >> trick for DC power. For ethernet, the "WISP approved" method seems to be >> adding ferrite beads to the cat-5 cable at the end. I've never done this >> myself. Tell us a little more about the problem you're trying to solve... >> >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> Scott Vander Dussen wrote: >>> Any suggestions for filtering off FM noise? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker >>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:03 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering >>> >>> This is for Canopy radios: >>> >>> htt
Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering
Yes, I'd start by putting that filter you found on the incoming power to the switch enclosure. Also, -Make sure the door is bonded to the enclosure cabinet with a ground strap at minimum, preferably metal EMI gasket around door seal also -Keep the size of any enclosure penetrations to a minimum, though at FM frequencies you should be okay here -Make sure the liquid tight is bonded to the enclosure and APs -Make sure AP cases are bonded to enclosure through equipment grounds -You're using shielded RJ45's at both ends of the STP between switch and APs, right? Is this a PoE switch or is there some hacking of the ethernet cables going on to inject power for the APs? What kind of APs? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Installing APs on a FM tower. Fiber from base of tower > fib/copper switch > at AP location. STP encased in flexible metal liquid tight from fib/copper > switch NEMA enclosure to APs. APs are getting eth port errors when in > 100FDX, locking in 10FDX solves the issue. > > 24VDC is injected in to each AP in the NEMA enclosure - I have ferrite beads > on both ends of the STP (near switch and base of AP) but problem remains. > Additional ferrite beads on the DC power line, still have issues. I believe > the majority of EMI is entering through the power cable. I did not run a > shielded power cable or power through coax or anything intelligent like that > - just a standard 2-16ga outdoor cable. So I'm looking for something to just > drain off any conducted FM EMI off that 24VDC power line before it gets > injected directly on the CAT5 that feeds those APs. > > Thanks for reading! > `S > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:21 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering > > Off the ethernet line or power? The EMI filter you posted should do the > trick for DC power. For ethernet, the "WISP approved" method seems to be > adding ferrite beads to the cat-5 cable at the end. I've never done this > myself. Tell us a little more about the problem you're trying to solve... > > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > Scott Vander Dussen wrote: >> Any suggestions for filtering off FM noise? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:03 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering >> >> This is for Canopy radios: >> >> http://www.wbmfg.com/products/accessories/surge-suppressor >> >> Test port, voltage/current indicator LEDs, lightning protection. >> Weatherproof enclosure. >> >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> RickG wrote: >>> Lightning season is when I miss my home state of California the most. >>> You really dont know what your missing! I feel like the British must >>> have felt in WWII during the German bombing runs. Every year, boom, >>> boom, boom. (sorry for the dramatics). >>> Neither did I include an LP/EMI device in my business model but I also >>> didnt count on so many truck rolls. It just becomes a matter of which >>> is more cost effective and beneficial to customer satisfaction. I too >>> prefer that the customer be there but obviously this is only a side >>> benefit along with ease of access. >>> At any rate, you're "maintenance adapter" is right on target but I'm >>> not big into home made stuff. So, I'm hoping someone knows of a device >>> out there that incorporates these features and is factory made. >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Scott Vander Dussen >>> wrote: >>>> Rick- >>>> Obviously this application is for a tower (hence APs..). Our pricing >>>> model doesn't permit us the extra $20-30 per customer plus installation >>>> time etc. to install a LA/EMI Filter for every customer. Lighting isn't >>>> really a problem where we are (California) - Since we started in 2002 >>>> never had a single tower, customer,
Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering
That is different than the 600ss. The 600ss is made by Transtector for Motorola and is a Moto part. The one I linked is made by WB Mfg (Chuck McCown). I would imagine it only works with Canopy/Trango 24V reverse polarity PoE. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com RickG wrote: > Is this the same thing? > http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=600SS&eq=&Tp= > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Patrick Shoemaker > wrote: >> This is for Canopy radios: >> >> http://www.wbmfg.com/products/accessories/surge-suppressor >> >> Test port, voltage/current indicator LEDs, lightning protection. >> Weatherproof enclosure. >> >> >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> RickG wrote: >>> Lightning season is when I miss my home state of California the most. >>> You really dont know what your missing! I feel like the British must >>> have felt in WWII during the German bombing runs. Every year, boom, >>> boom, boom. (sorry for the dramatics). >>> Neither did I include an LP/EMI device in my business model but I also >>> didnt count on so many truck rolls. It just becomes a matter of which >>> is more cost effective and beneficial to customer satisfaction. I too >>> prefer that the customer be there but obviously this is only a side >>> benefit along with ease of access. >>> At any rate, you're "maintenance adapter" is right on target but I'm >>> not big into home made stuff. So, I'm hoping someone knows of a device >>> out there that incorporates these features and is factory made. >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Scott Vander Dussen >>> wrote: >>>> Rick- >>>> Obviously this application is for a tower (hence APs..). Our pricing >>>> model doesn't permit us the extra $20-30 per customer plus installation >>>> time etc. to install a LA/EMI Filter for every customer. Lighting isn't >>>> really a problem where we are (California) - Since we started in 2002 >>>> never had a single tower, customer, anything negatively affected by >>>> lighting. >>>> >>>> That being said - we don't like to do a maintenance call when the customer >>>> isn't home b/c then you can't get to their equipment (which may be the >>>> problem) or their power supply for the radio etc. When we need to, and >>>> the customer isn't home - we have simple "maintenance adapter" that we >>>> made - it has two RJ45 jacks and a short CAT5 cable coming out. The >>>> adapter is placed in-line between the radio and PoE CAT5 (to customer's >>>> power supply in home) - the short CAT5 goes plugs into the radio and the >>>> remaining RJ45 port has access to the network only (PoE pins removed) for >>>> use in your laptop. >>>> >>>> Down side is it requires rebooting CPE to install (unplugging cable) and >>>> also you need to get access to CPE which can be difficult sometimes. >>>> >>>> `S >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of RickG >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:23 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering >>>> >>>> This is inline with my previous question about a lightning protector. >>>> Would it be a good idea to incorporate a unit that does filtering/LP >>>> in a small enclosure on the outside of the home/business with an >>>> ethernet port for easy access to the network rather than having to >>>> depend on the customer to be there? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Scott Vander Dussen >>>> wrote: >>>>> Looking to filter conducted FM EMI off a 24VDC power line that supplies >>>>> Canopy APs with power. Would something like this be appropriate, or even >>>>> on the right track? >>>>> <http://bit.ly/a3WKJ9>http://bit.ly/a3WKJ9 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> `S >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering
Off the ethernet line or power? The EMI filter you posted should do the trick for DC power. For ethernet, the "WISP approved" method seems to be adding ferrite beads to the cat-5 cable at the end. I've never done this myself. Tell us a little more about the problem you're trying to solve... Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Any suggestions for filtering off FM noise? > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering > > This is for Canopy radios: > > http://www.wbmfg.com/products/accessories/surge-suppressor > > Test port, voltage/current indicator LEDs, lightning protection. > Weatherproof enclosure. > > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > RickG wrote: >> Lightning season is when I miss my home state of California the most. >> You really dont know what your missing! I feel like the British must >> have felt in WWII during the German bombing runs. Every year, boom, >> boom, boom. (sorry for the dramatics). >> Neither did I include an LP/EMI device in my business model but I also >> didnt count on so many truck rolls. It just becomes a matter of which >> is more cost effective and beneficial to customer satisfaction. I too >> prefer that the customer be there but obviously this is only a side >> benefit along with ease of access. >> At any rate, you're "maintenance adapter" is right on target but I'm >> not big into home made stuff. So, I'm hoping someone knows of a device >> out there that incorporates these features and is factory made. >> -RickG >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Scott Vander Dussen >> wrote: >>> Rick- >>> Obviously this application is for a tower (hence APs..). Our pricing model >>> doesn't permit us the extra $20-30 per customer plus installation time etc. >>> to install a LA/EMI Filter for every customer. Lighting isn't really a >>> problem where we are (California) - Since we started in 2002 never had a >>> single tower, customer, anything negatively affected by lighting. >>> >>> That being said - we don't like to do a maintenance call when the customer >>> isn't home b/c then you can't get to their equipment (which may be the >>> problem) or their power supply for the radio etc. When we need to, and the >>> customer isn't home - we have simple "maintenance adapter" that we made - >>> it has two RJ45 jacks and a short CAT5 cable coming out. The adapter is >>> placed in-line between the radio and PoE CAT5 (to customer's power supply >>> in home) - the short CAT5 goes plugs into the radio and the remaining RJ45 >>> port has access to the network only (PoE pins removed) for use in your >>> laptop. >>> >>> Down side is it requires rebooting CPE to install (unplugging cable) and >>> also you need to get access to CPE which can be difficult sometimes. >>> >>> `S >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:23 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering >>> >>> This is inline with my previous question about a lightning protector. >>> Would it be a good idea to incorporate a unit that does filtering/LP >>> in a small enclosure on the outside of the home/business with an >>> ethernet port for easy access to the network rather than having to >>> depend on the customer to be there? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Scott Vander Dussen >>> wrote: >>>> Looking to filter conducted FM EMI off a 24VDC power line that supplies >>>> Canopy APs with power. Would something like this be appropriate, or even >>>> on the right track? >>>> <http://bit.ly/a3WKJ9>http://bit.ly/a3WKJ9 >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> `S >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >
Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering
This is for Canopy radios: http://www.wbmfg.com/products/accessories/surge-suppressor Test port, voltage/current indicator LEDs, lightning protection. Weatherproof enclosure. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com RickG wrote: > Lightning season is when I miss my home state of California the most. > You really dont know what your missing! I feel like the British must > have felt in WWII during the German bombing runs. Every year, boom, > boom, boom. (sorry for the dramatics). > Neither did I include an LP/EMI device in my business model but I also > didnt count on so many truck rolls. It just becomes a matter of which > is more cost effective and beneficial to customer satisfaction. I too > prefer that the customer be there but obviously this is only a side > benefit along with ease of access. > At any rate, you're "maintenance adapter" is right on target but I'm > not big into home made stuff. So, I'm hoping someone knows of a device > out there that incorporates these features and is factory made. > -RickG > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Scott Vander Dussen > wrote: >> Rick- >> Obviously this application is for a tower (hence APs..). Our pricing model >> doesn't permit us the extra $20-30 per customer plus installation time etc. >> to install a LA/EMI Filter for every customer. Lighting isn't really a >> problem where we are (California) - Since we started in 2002 never had a >> single tower, customer, anything negatively affected by lighting. >> >> That being said - we don't like to do a maintenance call when the customer >> isn't home b/c then you can't get to their equipment (which may be the >> problem) or their power supply for the radio etc. When we need to, and the >> customer isn't home - we have simple "maintenance adapter" that we made - it >> has two RJ45 jacks and a short CAT5 cable coming out. The adapter is placed >> in-line between the radio and PoE CAT5 (to customer's power supply in home) >> - the short CAT5 goes plugs into the radio and the remaining RJ45 port has >> access to the network only (PoE pins removed) for use in your laptop. >> >> Down side is it requires rebooting CPE to install (unplugging cable) and >> also you need to get access to CPE which can be difficult sometimes. >> >> `S >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:23 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] EMI Filtering >> >> This is inline with my previous question about a lightning protector. >> Would it be a good idea to incorporate a unit that does filtering/LP >> in a small enclosure on the outside of the home/business with an >> ethernet port for easy access to the network rather than having to >> depend on the customer to be there? >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Scott Vander Dussen >> wrote: >>> Looking to filter conducted FM EMI off a 24VDC power line that supplies >>> Canopy APs with power. Would something like this be appropriate, or even >>> on the right track? >>> <http://bit.ly/a3WKJ9>http://bit.ly/a3WKJ9 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> `S >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
I'm pretty sure that Matt was talking about *RF spectrum* weather information here. I've thought about this a few times too- would be an extremely useful product. Even more useful if it had enough intelligence to learn the TDD patterns of the owner's equipment, and listen during the guard intervals so that it showed spectrum conditions with the owner's equipment removed. Being able to see real-time spectrum conditions on an operating link is one of the most useful features on the Orthogon PTP radios, IMO. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com jp wrote: > I dont' graph temp/humidity at my towers. I do graph it for my detatched > garage and datacenter though. (The most important locations) > > I have a little atom PC running centos, 1-wire temp/humidity sensor from > www.hobby-boards.com, owfs, mrtg, apache. It also has rsync and a 2tb > drive for offsite backup of my photos. It is connected with fiber to my > home for the offsite backup access. > > http://www.f64.nu/garage/temp_2.html > http://www.f64.nu/garage/temp_3.html > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:50:45PM -0700, Ryan Spott wrote: >> Must be nice to be so close to a NOAA weather station.. and to have >> consistant weather from one mile-post to the next. I can tell you that out >> here, 200' elevation <> 4500' elevation 4 miles away. :) >> >> And I do graph all of that. :) >> >> ryan >> >> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: >> >>> We do this now. From NOAA weather stations. All our backhaul links are >>> polled every 60 seconds for just about everything they spit out (i.e. bits >>> in/out, signals, errors, temperature, etc.) as well as NOAA weather info >>> (temp, humidity, pressure, etc.) for the nearest station. It's all >>> available on a graph to us through extranet. Works very well. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: >>> >>>> This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some >>>> sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that >>>> would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather >>> information. >>>> The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; >>>> possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it >>>> historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of >>>> the environment for which their network is operating in. >>>> >>>> -Matt >>>> >>>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these >>> for >>>>> each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower >>>> location. >>>>> How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? >>>>> Scriv >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Phone exchanges
Qwest has some crappy ones, but that doesnt help Scott out much. http://www.northwesternbell.us/wholesale/network/ratecentermaps.html Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike Hammett wrote: > I don't believe there are any official ratecenter maps. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Scott Reed" > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:16 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: [WISPA] Phone exchanges > >> Does anyone know where I can find a KML that shows telephone exchange >> coverage? We need to know what areas we cover with our dial-up phone >> numbers relative to our towers.. >> >> -- >> Scott Reed >> Sr. Systems Engineer >> GAB Midwest >> 1-800-363-1544 x2241 >> 1-260-827-2241 >> Cell: 260-273-7239 >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Phone exchanges
If you're looking for wire center maps, good luck- I've never been able to find them. Brian Webster says they are not freely available. Here are LATA maps but not in KML: http://www.latamaps.com/Telecom_Maps/Regional_LATA_maps/regional_lata_maps.html http://www.localcallingguide.com will probably be your best bet but I can't find any rate center maps there. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 3/25/2010 5:16 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find a KML that shows telephone exchange > coverage? We need to know what areas we cover with our dial-up phone > numbers relative to our towers.. > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE injector with redundant AC inputs
That's perfect. Thank you. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Kristian Hoffmann wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 16:56 -0400, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >> Looking for a 48 volt POE injector (either 802.3af or just a dumb >> injector) that has dual AC power inputs. Dual -48VDC inputs work too. >> Not finding much of anything at first glance... > > Tycon Power has a DC-DC 48V PoE that takes dual 9-36VDC inputs... > > http://tyconpower.com/products/POE_Inserters.htm > > You could use two wall warts to power it. Not the most efficient thing > ever, but probably cheaper than the Cisco option. > > -Kristian > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] POE injector with redundant AC inputs
Looking for a 48 volt POE injector (either 802.3af or just a dumb injector) that has dual AC power inputs. Dual -48VDC inputs work too. Not finding much of anything at first glance... -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Modified Sine Inverter Acceptable
Most of these things you're talking about use switching power supplies. Generally it doesn't matter if the input waveform is a pure sinusoid or modified sine- the first stage of a SMPS is a rectifier and filter capacitor that converts the input to DC anyway. I've never had any trouble running various electronics off modified sine inverters. You'll be losing some efficiency and thus battery runtime by using the inverter and individual equipment power supplies. But you'll have readily available off the shelf parts, and an easy to understand/repair system. Your call on the tradeoff. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote: > Hey Guys, > > For running commodity routers, radios, servers on a remote site, is > using a modified sine wave acceptable? I have some electrical engineers > at the site im working on thinking of putting in a modified sine > inverter, and joining them up with a large battery cache. > > The question we raised was, will a modified sine wave be > damaging/problematic for things like a Ubiquti Radio/POE Injector, small > WRT54GL router, small switch, and two servers (300-400w each). > > Let me know. > > I searched the lists and found this, > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/2007-July/027900.html but I > didnt see the impact on the equipment there, just UPSes. > > I am going from: > > [very dirty mains 90-120v] - [battery charger] - [battery bank] - > [inverter] --- outlets, [Equipment Transformers] - [Equipment] > > Ideas? Other power engineers on site brought along a Chicago Electric > Inverter #95596 - > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95596 > > -Israel > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] small generator with ATS
Alpha power makes some nice small automatic generators that run off propane. They are about the size of one of those pad mount battery boxes that the cable industry uses to back up their outdoor plant. The small ones are vertically oriented and don't take up much ground space. Available in 24VDC, 48VDC, and 110 VAC. They are expensive though. The cheapest prepackaged system that you can (mostly) trust and is not a hack is the small Generac air cooled line. 8 kW is the smallest and they will run on natural gas or propane. These can be found for $2000 shipped with the ATS. http://zillerelectric.com/Generac_Air_Cooled/Guardian_Generator_5501.html Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Marco Coelho wrote: > I'm looking for small, 3-6 KW, propane fed generators with automatic > transfer / exercise switches. This would be an ideal size for small > tower sites. > > Marco > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Short range link with DFS concerns
I will be putting up a new 5.3 GHz link in the near future. The distance is only a few thousand feet. Normally I would use radios with integrated panel antennas, but this link is near a weather radar tower. Experience has shown that even when the radar's operating frequencies are blocked out of the radio's DFS channel map, the DFS algorithm can trip due to spurious emissions from the radar transmitter. I usually get around this by using high performance dishes with a narrow beam and small sidelobes. Since this link is only a few thousand feet, 2 foot HP dishes seem like overkill. Also, aesthetics are a concern at one end of the link and a physically small antenna would be best. Is anyone aware of a high quality (Radiowaves, Andrew, etc.) dual polarity high performance parabolic for 5.3 GHz that is smaller than 2 feet? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radiowaves p/n
Thanks. Any alternatives I should consider? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Ryan Ghering wrote: > Ack sorry I ment. Radio Waves HPD1-5.2NS > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Shoemaker < > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> wrote: > >> Who knows the part number for a RadioWaves 1 foot DUAL POLARITY >> parabolic dish for 5.2-5.8 GHz? I keep seeing that they are available, >> but no part number or distributor stock. >> >> >> -- >> Patrick Shoemaker >> Vector Data Systems LLC >> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com >> office: (301) 358-1690 x36 >> http://www.vectordatasystems.com >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Radiowaves p/n
Who knows the part number for a RadioWaves 1 foot DUAL POLARITY parabolic dish for 5.2-5.8 GHz? I keep seeing that they are available, but no part number or distributor stock. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] am tower proximity
With good installation practices (shielded ethernet cable, proper grounding, quality radio gear with EMI shielding, etc.) you will not likely have a problem with a 1 kW station. However, by building a large steel structure of your own so close to the AM transmitter, you'll be affecting their radiation pattern. You should get in touch with the station engineer prior to construction so that they can prepare. The AM station's pattern has to be approved by the FCC, and any large nearby metal structures will become parasitic antennas and affect the radiation pattern. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com jp wrote: > I am considering constructing a small tower site (for microwave ptp uses > mostly) next to an AM radio tower. Like about 300' away. I know not to > be on the tower itself. Am I likely to run into any issues with that > sort of closeness to AM radio? > > It's a 1KW station based on current public information. > > TIA, > Jason > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation?
Good point. Right after starting my first year of engineering school, I literally had to teach one of my classmates how to use a phillips screwdriver. This person didn't stick with engineering for long :) I guess I'll just say that I know the difference between my RBW and VBW. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Blake Bowers wrote: > No offense, but as also a BSEE, I offer that many people with > a degree still have no clue about test equipment or simple things like > soldering irons. > > I recall all too clearly a young lady who had her BSEE doing an > internship with the FBI, who had no idea how those components > were actually connected together on a board. > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > - Original Message - > > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? > > >> I am an EE... I know my way around a spec-an. >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation?
Grab an old Canopy SM off ebay - they have a decent spectrum analyzer built in if you just want to sit it out at a site and get a general feel for what's going on. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > The problem with nearly all of the radio based systems is that they don't > see constant carrier. Don't even pick it up. > > I've seen that with both the trango and alvarion vl systems. > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "jp" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? > > >> We've got an older HP (now agilent) spectrum analyzer that does up to >> 22ghz. Most people don't know how to use it. I had plenty of experience >> with O-scopes, and obtained a manual for it, so I'm comfortable with it. >> The average 25 year old geek would be lost after turning it on. >> >> We occasionally drag it out and use a directional antenna to locate a >> source of interference. Sees the cell phone, 900 paging, and some 900 >> unlicensed stuff real good. 5ghz is harder as the antennas are much more >> directional. >> >> For monitoring over a time period, Trango 900 SUs and Alvarion 900VL SUs >> are great at spectrum analysis too via the CLI, as is the Alvarion FH >> 900 with the spectrum analysis firmware and windows utility. For 5ghz, >> I'd recommend an Alvarion VL SU for the band you are testing. >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:34:45PM -0500, Steven G McGehee wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Was wondering if any of you have owned or used a spectrum analyzer for >>> common WISP frequencies like 3.3-3.8Ghz, 5Ghz, as well as 11, 18, 23, >>> and 24Ghz. I'm primarily interested in 3.3-3.8Ghz and the complete 5Ghz >>> range. Something that could analyze as low as 900Mhz and as high as the >>> 60-80Ghz would be nice too, but not as important. I've tinkered with a >>> Bumblebee device before in 5Ghz, but wondered what analyzers you folks >>> would recommend. >>> >>> Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! >>> >>> -Steven >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- >> /* >> Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL >>KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting >> http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ >> */ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation?
I am an EE... I know my way around a spec-an. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Dennis Burgess wrote: > Proper setup is key! > > --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, > MTCTCE, MTCUME > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:30 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? > > Personally, I had terrible luck with my Spectran, but I am tired of > explaining my story every time this subject comes up. Maybe my > particular unit was a dud, but at any rate it was so inaccurate (as > verified by a calibrated RF signal generator) that I had to replace it. > > Patrick Shoemaker > Vector Data Systems LLC > shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com > office: (301) 358-1690 x36 > http://www.vectordatasystems.com > > > Dennis Burgess wrote: >> You can't go wrong with a spectran. > http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp >> These wil do 2.4, 900mhz, 3.65, and your entire 5 gig band. Work > great, >> under 2K! >> >> >> >> --- >> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, >> MTCTCE, MTCUME >> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:35 PM >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? >> >> Hi all, >> >> Was wondering if any of you have owned or used a spectrum analyzer for > >> common WISP frequencies like 3.3-3.8Ghz, 5Ghz, as well as 11, 18, 23, >> and 24Ghz. I'm primarily interested in 3.3-3.8Ghz and the complete > 5Ghz >> range. Something that could analyze as low as 900Mhz and as high as > the >> 60-80Ghz would be nice too, but not as important. I've tinkered with a > >> Bumblebee device before in 5Ghz, but wondered what analyzers you folks > >> would recommend. >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! >> >> -Steven >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation?
Personally, I had terrible luck with my Spectran, but I am tired of explaining my story every time this subject comes up. Maybe my particular unit was a dud, but at any rate it was so inaccurate (as verified by a calibrated RF signal generator) that I had to replace it. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Dennis Burgess wrote: > You can't go wrong with a spectran. http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp > These wil do 2.4, 900mhz, 3.65, and your entire 5 gig band. Work great, > under 2K! > > > > --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, > MTCTCE, MTCUME > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:35 PM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? > > Hi all, > > Was wondering if any of you have owned or used a spectrum analyzer for > common WISP frequencies like 3.3-3.8Ghz, 5Ghz, as well as 11, 18, 23, > and 24Ghz. I'm primarily interested in 3.3-3.8Ghz and the complete 5Ghz > range. Something that could analyze as low as 900Mhz and as high as the > 60-80Ghz would be nice too, but not as important. I've tinkered with a > Bumblebee device before in 5Ghz, but wondered what analyzers you folks > would recommend. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Exactly. The terms "wireless" and "fiber" are too broad to make any valid reliability comparison without more specifics. Comparing a licensed point to point microwave system with redundant paths, spatial diversity, standby power, and a tower structure rated to 150 MPH to an aerial fiber strand running through the woods in northeast ice storm territory would lead one to believe that wireless is the more reliable technology. Comparing a 2.4 GHz 802.11 link with grid antennas shooting some trees in icy territory to a SONET ring connecting two metro area datacenters would lead one to believe that fiber is the more reliable technology. Unfortunately, this distinction is not made by the general public, and it makes the sales process for business grade fixed wireless services more difficult. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Bret Clark wrote: > Brian Webster wrote: >> Fiber deployments have been commonplace between >> telephone switches for years now and I have never heard about reliability >> issues and/or downtime problems with the fiber. Not that they don't happen >> but when you average their uptime to their outages, I would think they have >> some of the better reliability figures over any technology. >> > > Sure, because they are running a SONET network and fiber breaks are > rather common, but when you have a secondary path then you don't hear > about it. Build a wireless infrastructure the same way with redundancy > and you'll have the same uptime. > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Telephones & such. Was:Not About Health Insurance
If you are using a VZW cell phone, you can disable outgoing CID for all calls. It can be re-enabled on a per-call basis using *82. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Josh Luthman wrote: > I won't help you spoof CID but I can help you with the user thing. > > On 12/9/09, Robert West wrote: >> Or spoof your caller ID to something outrageous like the seafood department >> at Kroger. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Telephones & such. Was:Not About Health Insurance >> >> Well, either one of those are good ideas but I'm more in the 11th >> commandment "Thou shalt not hassle". Call me lazy but I make way too many >> calls to add even more digits. I'll go for your second suggestion when I get >> the time. Thanks! >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Josh Luthman >> wrote: >> >>> Simply *67 if you call from your cell phone. >>> >>> Or if you're like me use the remote phone feature. You use your phone to >>> call your work phone, then issue commands to have the work phone call >>> someone. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM, RickG wrote: >>> >>>> Ya, I put a stop to that quick. >>>> >>>> The only number I've ever given is my office number. The bad thing about >>>> caller ID is they collect your cell number when you call them. To fix >>> that, >>>> I got a second line and have no voicemail on it. >>>> >>>> LOL, you can always send them to rejectionhotline.com! >>>> >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> To your house? Now that's just creepy. >>>>> >>>>> What I've always done is given them this number - 9375522343. It's a >>> DID >>>>> on >>>>> L3 and routes to our switch. >>>>> >>>>> The switch and such makes it ring to my user, "Josh Luthman". My user >>> is >>>>> built on a Cisco 79xx phone. If my phone is OOS it goes straight to >> my >>>>> cell. If I don't answer it and I am not on the phone, it auto >> forwards >>>> to >>>>> my cell. If I have it on DND straight to VM. >>>>> >>>>> I tell customers that one number is the only number you need is the >>> main >>>>> number, but if you need me specifically then call 2343 and I'll help >>> you >>>> as >>>>> soon as I can. >>>>> >>>>> On those "special nights" just tap the DND button and I'm >> disconnected. >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, RickG wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Every customer had my cell number but it became way too much burden. >>>>>> Nothing >>>>>> like being interupted while enjoying a movie because theire laptop >>> wont >>>>>> connect to their wireless router. Oh ya, I even got the proverbial >>> "my >>>>>> mouse" wont work last week! My greeting even said, "please call the >>>>> office" >>>>>> but everyone thinks they are special. So, after 5 years, I finally >>>>> changed >>>>>> my cell number and force them to call into the office. Ah, life is >>> sooo >>>>>> mu
