Re: [WISPA] Wireless for America?
Their about us is STILL Lorem Ipsum. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben West Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless for America? I've noticed Wireless for America appearing prominently on the blog ad rotation recently: http://wirelessforamerica.org/ Looks like their website is pretty new, as their About Us page was lorem ipsum until less than a week ago. Their ad copy focus on the broadband crisis, and their solution for it. They appear to be petitioning the FCC and/or Congress to permit coexistence on the GPS band. http://wirelessforamerica.org/the-facts/technologies-coexisting/ http://www.interceptradio.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=1t=5694 (less favorable) Anyone happen to know just what is Wireless for America? -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
I plan to be there. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits That brings up another point. WISPAPALOOZA was a couple hundred bucks. Most conferences are $1,000+. VMWorld was like $1300. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/3/2011 10:29 AM, David Sovereen wrote: Shafty really? How much are they charging for the event? Zero, except that you need to book through them, and they derive some revenue through the booking. How much was registration to Wispapalooza? How much is registration to Animal Farm? The policy seems fair to me. I suppose they could charge an event registration fee of ___ for persons who booked through another means, which might help Ralph's situation, but I don't think Double Radius' position is without merit. Dave _ From: Andy Trimmell mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits +1 for pretty shafty! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits That's pretty shafty! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwf mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not their travel agent. If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you to leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
The vendors pay for this stuff, not DR. And the room class I chose was not 279.00. I prefer not to sleep in the engine room. And we are a pretty regular and profitable customer to DR. You know, if I were in their shoes, I would do what is required to keep a happy customer. Next year I plan to go to the WISPA conference and skip this thing. I can hear sales pitches any time. The reason I go is to network with you guys anyway! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits The most interesting part is the cruise was only $279 per person. How much cheaper could he have gotten it with an employee discount? And how much would DR have to charge to allow this person into all the sessions/keynotes/afterhours free drinks/etc.? Travis On 11/3/2011 10:02 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: I would think if the guy was one of your customers and specifically went on the cruise to be a part of the show, then you could let it slide or at least have a door price. It seems to me a little good will for someone who helps support you all year is in order. And as to others attending, I say charge a door price and let them come if they really want. I doubt there would be a lot of takers. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I see your point and agree. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, David Sovereen david.sover...@mercury.net wrote: Shafty really? How much are they charging for the event? Zero, except that you need to book through them, and they derive some revenue through the booking. How much was registration to Wispapalooza? How much is registration to Animal Farm? The policy seems fair to me. I suppose they could charge an event registration fee of ___ for persons who booked through another means, which might help Ralph's situation, but I don't think Double Radius' position is without merit. Dave From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits +1 for pretty shafty! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits That's pretty shafty! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not their travel agent. If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you to leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
No, just the ones who told them 2 months ago that this would be the case and who paid for a cruise expecting to be able to listen to all the vendor's sales pitches (which is pretty much what the whole thing is) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:43 AM To: david.sover...@mercury.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits Yes. should all the cruise attendants be accepted on the WWL conf just for being in the ship? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits Shafty really? How much are they charging for the event? Zero, except that you need to book through them, and they derive some revenue through the booking. How much was registration to Wispapalooza? How much is registration to Animal Farm? The policy seems fair to me. I suppose they could charge an event registration fee of ___ for persons who booked through another means, which might help Ralph's situation, but I don't think Double Radius' position is without merit. Dave _ From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits +1 for pretty shafty! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits That's pretty shafty! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not their travel agent. If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you to leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not their travel agent. If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you to leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Do you serve these areas in Texas?
Amazing that I heard very little from the list. But I did use the FCC's broadband site and found some. NONE of them were WISPA members. I did put the sales pitch on 'em though. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Do you serve these areas in Texas? Odessa TX Sherman TX Midland TX Tyler TX I have some Dentist's offices who are looking for a secondary ISP for when their T1 goes down. Thanks Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM
FCC type accepted for the USA? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:00 AM To: WISPA General List; Scott Reed Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM Some links http://gregsowell.com/?p=3253 http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=254 -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:01:45 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM And you would assume everyone that wants to know about MT uses Facebook because ? On 10/14/2011 2:01 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Check our facebook page J Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ Training - Author of http://routerosbook.com/ Learn RouterOS From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16 AM To: a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM Any new announcements in hardware? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2090/4551 - Release Date: 10/14/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM
No! That is what lists are for. Just post it in a form that isn't a sales pitch from you and is generally helpful to us all. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM Check our facebook page J Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ Training - Author of http://routerosbook.com/ Learn RouterOS From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16 AM To: a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM Any new announcements in hardware? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Do you serve these areas in Texas?
Odessa TX Sherman TX Midland TX Tyler TX I have some Dentist's offices who are looking for a secondary ISP for when their T1 goes down. Thanks Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Do you serve these areas in Texas?
Thanks Chris and Fred. I found ERF, and I will try to see what Texoma can do. I think they probably don't want a terrestrial service and a leased line will be way to much $$ for what they want to pay, so I guess Tech1.net probably won't work. After I sent the original message, I tried the FCC broadband site and found a couple more. I have been putting the pressure on them to join WISPA. One didn't even know about CALEA. Ralph -Original Message- From: Fred Goldstein [mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:55 AM To: rwf Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you serve these areas in Texas? At 10/10/2011 10:49 AM, you wrote: (offnet) Some ISPs I know in those areas... Odessa TX Midland TX These might be served (leased line) by Amarillo-based Managed Telecom Inc./Tech1.net. Check with Johnny Kincanon jkinca...@tech1.net. Sherman TX Internet Texoma (texoma.net) is in that area, with wireless and probably some wireline. I don't know who's running it nowadays though. Tyler TX I have some Dentist's offices who are looking for a secondary ISP for when their T1 goes down. Thanks Ralph Brightlan.net --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Possibly looking for a WISP or contractor in/near Oxnard CA for a task
I may need to have some go by and test a 1.3 mile PtP shot between 2 rooftops for me. Anyone interested? Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Safety Harness
Martha Is this a climbing harness or a safety harness for a platform/bucket truck/aerial lift/roof etc? Others told you about the tower ones (I happen to prefer the DBI Sala for that) But the simpler one with only the rear D ring that is for the equipment I mentioned can also be had at Home Depot in a pinch. About $70.00 Reason I mention this is that some of us have bucket trucks or rent lifts as well and OSHA watches them too. We were just field inspected a few weeks ago. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Safety Harness Can anyone tell me where they purchase Safety Harnesses? Is there a special kind or brand I should be looking for? Thanks Martha -- Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on http://www.facebook.com/DCAccess Facebookor follow us on http://twitter.com/dcaccess Twitter image001.gifimage002.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
Several years ago Proxim made a wireless system called Harmony. Their midspan POE (model 7562) is the device that fits what the OP was looking for. They are around Ebay and some of the surplus dealers. I can't remember the configuration but I think it was 6 ports. The Power output was the normal 4/5 7/8 and was, I think 12-18 volts. http://www4.shopping.com/Proxim-Harmony-power-system/info http://cgi.ebay.com/Proxim-Harmony-Proxim-Harmony-7562-/280425765945?pt=LH_D efaultDomain_0hash=item414aad9c39 Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 09:52 AM, Brad Belton wrote: And here I am thinking all this time that I was the only one who would appreciate a device like this! I spoke with someone at Streakwave a few months ago about this and basically got a blank stare response. He had no idea why I would want such a thing..sigh So, to any manufacturers up to the task, here is (IMO) a starting point of a bullet point list for the PoE device I'm envisioning: (1) Multi-port models. (e.g. 6, 12 24 ports) Of course. (2) SNMP Web Interface Management with ACL firewall. Explain more? What do you want to query via SNMP? Write via SNMP? Why does it need an ACL system? Why not just use your existing network security system to keep people out? You do have a dedicated infrastructure management network right? (3) Redundant power supplies with separate power cords. (e.g. UPS Blue UPS Red) Of course. How much power would need to come in? Would the power supplies be hot swappable? (4) Dip switch DC polarity selectable per port. (e.g. Trango/Canopy vs. UBNT, etc.) (5) Dip switch 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC passive and standard 802.3af selectable per port. Hmmm. Why not just do this via software interface (like cisco poe switch for example). That would make the most sense to me. (6) 1U shallow depth form factor. Naturally (7) Auto-Ping per port. What does this mean? Is this like an iboot where if it doesn't receive a heartbeat in specified time period it cycles power on the port? Of course you would be able to disable this when doing maintenance that is a longer outage (like say flashing firmware or something) (8) LED Status indicators per port. Why? Just give it via SNMP/web interface. (Guess I'm just so used to being a remote support person that I never expect to have local access. Have managed 10s of thousands of remote systems that I never saw). (9) Optional DC power source model for solar sites? DC power is a requirement I think. On every model. (10) Optional Trango Apex/Orion GigE model? Don't know what this is. Maybe others on the list will? What else would be beneficial in the design of this PoE controller? Think you about covered it. One thinks Cisco would do something like this and make it fairly dumb/cheap. They already meet all your above requirements (well don't know about redundant power supply on 1U but I imagine that could easily be done). From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNbBdHAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtz2UP/1UBbIBjHfM7T5Z0tzO2GtJY 27ztWSH8X826ii+0Q7msSBJxASHFP3wlQFQKP1KiHy/W4GxhJDXeFnFiZKeV+IFp GKsID3Xn7Og83ttVIMRKzX8DMhLwc31GoPkeEh7qix/a1JUACHgH9P9yZSOKCCmZ wD1msdvgop07Q6USTMiiMxe0OCbzzkQbIc0ERmdNjclvlZkJ0Ya0feLeEeag5LoQ 53wolRkpY6MA0lt0VH+3wXb1/mbQxklL9ezKDhmn9s/wwte8CqCL795aBfkVI4Z/ oZuw+00FI5gJGQpQti04MoO0lou6N1N7MEVsFMc6f895rscGXNmjViWTX6QKgplL a7ncy9dQpbc7XQOJSUrSHn5S4O3K/vgpnJ+pK+3TiPTd9YVhOOGUIMA3vwz5BeQ/ gGi8mWrtvaffAeEptQObfx1yf29Vk8qJbpwpXGo1eY+sE4rqeuBeYzPt06lyuSyc fU27hnc52xYulcTVeHXGPFBw+a97m+xbw6Rd7wqHTXEs8WWTFErUQ5+zQdYIMilG u8v95euKSPT7zicvIZubxjLgPwWTQIgSc2/kFkxDW5Z5j3l/JM/7MW72h8WfVN4w AjhVTJbP75VpkazJeLTfsBH8mdGyE21yY8fi35u7U9yh1jyy+OSvOtoeUfssG8CC 8587g27Ezu02NaT2E1cJ =r5jL -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
[WISPA] Problems with 24 port managed switches from Demarc-Tech
When Tony Morella and Demarc-Tech was going out of business last year, we bought quite a few of the managed switches he was selling. Within a month, they were dropping like flies. Not dying, but just locking up with all lights on. We asked Tony for assistance but he said he was out of business and to contact some place in China. They never even responded to our requests. I’m asking whether anyone else purchased these dogs and if you are having the same trouble. Does anyone know is there is a firmware update for them? Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico - $25,000 FCC TDWR Enforcement Action
The interesting thing is who they were: none other than ATT! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:42 PM To: WISPA General List; memb...@wispa.org; us...@wug.cc Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico - $25,000 FCC TDWR Enforcement Action An FCC announcement today reported that FCC enforcement action led it to a company in San Juan Puerto Rico that was interfering with the TDWR system that serves the San Juan International Airport. The company was fined $25,000 for 1. Using equipment on an frequency that the equipment was not certified to operate on. 2. Operating without DFS. 3. Repeatedly and willfully violating the Communications Act and Part 15 rules. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-11-306A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-11-306A1.doc Jack Unger Chair - WISPA FCC Committee 818-227-4220 -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Commercial Service Needed- Ltttlerock WA (near Olympia)
Can anyone help? 122200 Bordeaux Rd Littlerock (Little Rock?) WA 98556 Need to find ASAP. Thanks Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot
We have never gone over the session limit with Wireless Orbit, and as I said, our entire network is a hotspot. Before Mikrotik broke the cookies we had even fewer sessions logged. I wish MT would fix the cookies! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot In polite words? Dishonest users. a month or two later we would have charge backs. Time/Money spent dealing with them got to the point where it cost more to deal with that kind of user then it did to just stuff the CC's in the trashcan and give free service. Now we do cash/check and those are done daily/weekly in person, not night deposited. We now know instantly if there is a bounce and it does not cost us a bounce fee and a unknown balance. Now that we have recovered and have expanded I am not even looking for the classic fixed user. I will cover every inch of my service area with a hotspot and let it run like that. I still have many people who want the classic fixed service but more then half of them come from hotspot users. What I want is a service that handles the back end billing and cuts me a check each week. This does not seam to very hard, or worth 50% of said billing. Wireless Orbit, and all the others I have looked at, have a crazy low session limit for the entry level accounts. Id like to try them out, but 1000 sessions would be less then 2 or 3 days. One user can generate 50+ sessions a day. I could always increase the session timeouts but then risk people landing on a existing session. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: How so? Been thinking about this for a couple of locations and am curious what issues you ran into. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless On 12/9/10 10:18 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: I do not take CC's directly anymore. They about put us out of business. I might have to start again but would rather not. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:02 AM, rwfralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: MT Hotspot Wireless Orbit (AAA and Billing) Authorize.net (Credit card stuff) We keep 100% (except for the credit card charge) We are 1000% satisfied -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot What are you using for automated hotspot user generation and billing? I have had my own scripts for user generation but still needed to do billing. I am looking at various 'cafe' and hotspot setups but some want $50/mo, others want up to 30%, etc, which seams high to handle a login page and billing. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot
Well how else do you suggest they pay? I suppose you could generate chits on some PC and have them give cash in exchange for a chit. Our entire network (13 cities) is run as a giant hotspot and everyone pays monthly with their credit card. In areas where people don't have credit or debit cards, they go to Walmart and buy a prepaid Visa. I would not do it any other way! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot I do not take CC's directly anymore. They about put us out of business. I might have to start again but would rather not. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:02 AM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: MT Hotspot Wireless Orbit (AAA and Billing) Authorize.net (Credit card stuff) We keep 100% (except for the credit card charge) We are 1000% satisfied -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot What are you using for automated hotspot user generation and billing? I have had my own scripts for user generation but still needed to do billing. I am looking at various 'cafe' and hotspot setups but some want $50/mo, others want up to 30%, etc, which seams high to handle a login page and billing. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot
MT Hotspot Wireless Orbit (AAA and Billing) Authorize.net (Credit card stuff) We keep 100% (except for the credit card charge) We are 1000% satisfied -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Automated Hotspot What are you using for automated hotspot user generation and billing? I have had my own scripts for user generation but still needed to do billing. I am looking at various 'cafe' and hotspot setups but some want $50/mo, others want up to 30%, etc, which seams high to handle a login page and billing. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] best cam bang for buck?
Axis Q6032 And it is NOT anywhere close to 29.95, but seem to want a decent camera. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] best cam bang for buck? I want a couple of cams to put on my towers to watch critters (deer, coons, possums, ect) at night. I have fiber to the towers so no issues with pipe (I'll give open access to cams). I want to PTZ with high resolution, and just like any other WISP, I need it for about $29.95. Just kidding but what is the best bang for my buck (pun intended)? -- Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee
After the 200.00, there is no fee for the actual radios. Not a bad deal, actually Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee $200 Phil On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: What is the #.65 license fee? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee
Sorrry- I just hear that offer expired. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee Wow, so I get free radios?? Hey, UBNT, I want 1500 XR3's!!! Sorry, I couldn't resist.. J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee After the 200.00, there is no fee for the actual radios. Not a bad deal, actually Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee $200 Phil On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: What is the #.65 license fee? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee
Took a couple weeks for the License. Base stations and CPES (both of which need registered) took about a month. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee Speakig of 3.65 GHz . . . Have any of you been through the 3.65 GHz Form 621 process? How long does this take, and then how long to get the FCC to approve once you have completed the Form 621 process? Kind Regards, David Hannum New Era Broadband, LLC On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wow, so I get free radios?? Hey, UBNT, I want 1500 XR3's!!! Sorry, I couldn't resist.. J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee After the 200.00, there is no fee for the actual radios. Not a bad deal, actually Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee $200 Phil On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: What is the #.65 license fee? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear
Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet? How did it work? Anyone know who has some in stock? Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear
I just bought all the Locos Baltic had left. Sorry guys. They have about 85 sectors and Rockets left though. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear Got my CPE's two days ago... On 11/9/2010 12:35 PM, Robert West wrote: I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the CPEs aren't available. Once they show up then the sectors and rockets will be gone. Grab what ya can when you can! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet? How did it work? Anyone know who has some in stock? Ralph -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] More Clearwire/Sprint spin control
Sprint 4G/Clearwire – Update To Business Solutions Partners November 4, 2010 Clearwire described the financial status of its ongoing operations during its quarterly earnings call today. During the call, the company referred to current funding gaps, which your customers may have questions about or concerns. It's important that you know the facts and can clearly address questions on this subject. Below is a list of FAQs that will give you the information you need. Q: Today, Clearwire discussed its financial status; can you elaborate on how Sprint is involved with this given that it owns a majority of Clearwire shares? A: Sprint’s CEO, Dan Hesse recently stated that Sprint has been in discussions with Clearwire regarding the financial status of its ongoing operations as well as Sprint potentially providing new financing. We expect those discussions to continue as we review alternatives with Clearwire. There is no assurance that the discussions will result in any transaction with Clearwire. Sprint is providing no additional comments on this matter at this time. It is critical to emphasize that our 4G plans remain unchanged: * Sprint has demonstrated unparalleled leadership in 4G. This dates back to our technology selection in 2006 and includes over two years’ experience running a 4G network which now covers 80 million people in over 60 markets. We will continue to demonstrate network leadership and innovation in 4G in the years to come. * This leadership has resulted in increased market share, especially in iconic devices like the EVO and Epic 4G. Sprint currently offers a dozen 4G devices and is on its third generation of several 4G devices before the competition’s launch of a single device. * While our leadership will resolve these matters, Sprint’s sales teams and retail associates will remain focused on leveraging 4G to enrich the lives of our customers and deliver solutions that save businesses time and money. Reactive messaging – Sprint 4G Network Devices (Customer impact) Q: What does Clearwire’s news today mean to the future of Sprint 4G and the network build for 2011? A: Clearwire has indicated that it is actively pursuing various initiatives to raise additional capital, including discussions with a number of major shareholders and other third parties about a number of options, including potential strategic transactions, additional debt or equity financings and/or asset sales. Q: Will the Clearwire/WiMAX network be shutting down? A: No, in fact we are currently in 61 markets with plans to launch San Francisco, Miami and Washington D.C. later this year. There are no plans to discontinue 4G/WiMAX service in any of our launched markets. Q: What does this mean for my current 4G/WiMAX devices? A: The 4G/WiMAX devices that are in the marketplace will continue to offer great service for customers using those devices and will see no change in service or support as a result of Clearwire’s announcements. Q: What does Clearwire’s potential spectrum sale mean for Sprint 4G? A: Sprint cannot comment on any potential Clearwire transaction. Even if Clearwire were to auction 40 MHz of its spectrum, the current Sprint 4G offering would not be impacted, and Clearwire’s 4G spectrum holding would still be twice that of its nearest competitor. __ Related Sprint/Clearwire messaging: Q. How can Sprint remain committed to Clearwire as its 4G partner when three of Sprint’s executives recently resigned from the Clearwire Board of Directors? Key Elements for Answer/Response * Sprint is exercising caution and good corporate governance by stepping off the Clearwire board * Sprint retains majority ownership of Clearwire along with seven of the 13 board seats * Sprint remains committed to WiMAX through its relationship with Clearwire A. The resignation of Sprint executives from the Clearwire Board of Directors was the result of a recent clarification of a federal antitrust law by the Supreme Court. Through the exercise of prudence and an abundance of caution and good corporate governance, Sprint has concluded that it could be viewed as an independent company that competes with Clearwire, and as a result, has decided that Sprint will no longer have officers or employees serving on the Clearwire Board. Sprint is still permitted to nominate replacements for these vacancies. Sprint did not give up its seats on the Clearwire Board. This action does not change Sprint’s commitment to 4G through its relationship with Clearwire. Sprint believes it will continue to gain efficiencies with respect to its investment in Clearwire through its contractual relationship, as
Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast
Like this? http://ralphfowler.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Liam Cummings Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too. I want to start using something like this for our site surveys because it would be much easier than getting out the telescoping pole we use and having someone hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just making one myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements
They have required it there for several years. It is part of the reason we get to operate there. It is required on 5.4 as well. On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: If this radar operates at 5600-5650 why does the FCC now require the DFS on 5300mhz ??? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:42 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA's FCC Committee Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements Eric, That is a very responsible position to take. The database doesn't exist yet. Final definition and creation of it is being worked on right now by the Industry Group (Motorola, Cisco, Atheros, Intel, WISPA and others). WISPA and the FCC Committee will be helping with industry outreach and education so we will alert you (and as many other operators as possible) on-list when there are major developments and when the database is ready. Let me know which TDWR site you are near and I'll find out what frequency they are using so you can remain 30 MHz away from it. jack (Chair - WISPA FCC Committee) Eric Rogers wrote: Jack, Who do I contact to get on the list? I am like 5 miles from one of the TDWR radar sites. We are using Motorola 5.4 with 9.5 so it supposedly has more updated signatures. I would rather get on the list voluntarily than they find me. Eric From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:00 PM To: nstooke...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements The FAA and NTIA want all outdoor operators to 1) verify if within 35 km, 2) if within 35 km, register your equipment and contact information in a (voluntary) database so they know who to contact if there is an interference problem, and 3) use channels that are more than 30 MHz away from the single-frequency that the nearby TDWR uses. jack Nathan Stooke wrote: Hello, So in those areas they want no 5.2 or 5.4 at all or only in the already blocked out part of the 5.4 band? Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements And here is a Google Earth file for the areas they want protected around these radar sites. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Doppler_Weather_Radar Attached is a map of TDWR locations in the United States. From what I read the radar has a range of 460 kilometers. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 3:26 AM To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements A thing to note... All these enforcement actions were taken because of interference with licensed users Lessons I get from them... 1) Stay off the 5.4GHz band 2) Keep your EIRP down 3) Check your installations for out of band emissions. Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: Was going through recent enforcement actions and came across these: http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-296094A1.html http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290776A1.html http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290775A1.html Make sure you are legal. You never know when a surprise can happen. Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] cameras
Don't know what low means to you, but I recommend Axis 3344 This is low priced compared to some. Very good resolution, H.264, HD (720p) Fixed position, but the zoom and focus are controllable remotely. Really a pretty cool feature. I have used and do use plenty of them! Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 3.65 options for PtP
I need to do a lot (20+) very short distance links in a medium sized city that has a highly RF polluted environment. 5.x GHz isn't an option. Is there a CERTIFIED product that uses the Ubiquiti 3.65 card that would give me some reasonably priced bridges? I don't know if there is anything else in that price range, and it looks like most other 3.65 links are going to cost 1500.00+ Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?
Only problem with those is that they are V E R Y light duty. Like for a small 5.8 panel or a Nanostation. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Parsons Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?productid=2896cat=0page=1 One of these might do the trick. Scott -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden utility pole? We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a wooden utility pole. I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit overkill for a single omni. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DDWRT on UBNT
I loaded it once, but wasn't interested enough in it to pay for a license. That is one of the radios they require a license for. I do have a Nano-2 now with Open-WRT loaded on it, just started playing with it though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ready for prime time? Speaking of firmware, has anyone tried DD-WRT on a UBNT? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest
Matt- Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active. Some of us are here for wireless discussion, and Matt, although I understand you are no longer actively in the business, the rest of us still are. I even made a filter but you keep slipping through. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest
Oh? So you are still a WISP then? What is your company called? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest I am not longer with Rapid Link/One Ring as an employee, but I have not left the business. Ralph likes to speak out of turn. -Matt On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Matt's not in the business anymore? News to me. I thought he was with Rapid or Ring something or another? Not anymore? If true, that really is interesting... Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest Matt- Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active. Some of us are here for wireless discussion, and Matt, although I understand you are no longer actively in the business, the rest of us still are. I even made a filter but you keep slipping through. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Here is something actually about Wireless- The Dude
I'm trying to implement The Dude as a method of monitoring inside a network's firewall/router (actually a hot spot portal) and have it working OK. It was a bear to get it figured out how get it to to use a remote probe or whatever they call another instance of Dude running on a box inside. Problem is when I try to monitor a second network, also with its own probe inside its portal. How do you tell the main Dude client to use 2 or more remote probes all the time and show them all on the same map? I plan to ask this on the MT list too, but I feel there are some very knowledgeable folks here. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure
You got that right! Very difficult to weatherproof once mounted on the tower. Even if it's not on the tower it is difficult if the bottom mounting ear is attached. Plus- they weather badly and look horrible after a year. Plus- the 4 screws for the cover rust. Plus- we don't see how, but the weatherproof gland that protects the RJ45 socket on the bottom somehow allows water in. We will lose connectivity and then go up the tower only to find the plug completely corroded in the jack. Instant need to replace the radio. We have one dow right now that has half a city's mesh network down, as it is a signal injection source point. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Those look like they have a lot of junk sticking out where you'd need to weather proof connectors. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I've given up on this. There is just too much cross talk. I put all radios in the same band in their own METAL enclosure nowadays. I try to keep them at least 3 or 6 feet apart too. Life is much much nicer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear in the same box, but have been afraid to put cards in the same band in the same case. The foil spacer you put between cards Bob, do you then ground it to create a sort of Faraday shield? I know the XRx cards do a good job of shielding if you attach the pigtail. How about the receive sensitivity on the 411 cards? Has that been an issue? I think the XR cards have better specs. Wouldn't having multiple 411 cards in the same box possibly have desense issues too? Mike At 09:41 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: Forgot to add, if you're concerned with any RF collisions inside the box, the other thing I talked about earlier, having just 3 411 cards in their own box at the sector then running Cat5 to transparent bridge the 411's to a central RouterOS device would take any of that issue totally away. That's one that I'm doing just to do it, basically. Was an idea from someone a couple of months ago. (I actually listen to you guys) Had a 600a doing nothing and some 411 cards so why not play? was my thinking. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Have you had any issues with putting 3 radio cards in the same spectrum in the same box? I've thought about that but wondered if there would be desense issues where one transmitting desensitizes another one listening. At 08:38 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: Yep, looks like you're hitting the wall. We aren't lucky enough to push 3 meg here, the most is usually 1 so again, all depends on your customer base. I'd say if you already have 35 on that one AP, just splitting it into 2 180 degree sectors will just cost you cash as soon as you gain a few more customers. You already have 35 pulling it down, sounds like if you just do 2 180's, if split evenly (and it never will be) that would put you to where you probably want to be for smooth delivery but not much room for more growth. I'd go with 3 120's and a 433AH with 3 cards on it, one per sector. I have a few like that and it works fine for what I do but again, I only dole out 1mb per sub typically. I've also been upgrading some of my remote AP's to one 433AH with only one radio installed and an Omni. The anticipated upgrade path is to just add a sector or 2 and radio card as needed to the point where I have 3 sectors. Keeping the Omni of course until the third sector is needed. That's something someone already suggested doing and I like the
Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?
I am not sure but I think it is pretty much limited to Military installations. I haven't been able to verify this for sure, but one of my mesh gear providers deals pretty much only with DOD installations and he tells me that that is where the RADAR is that caused us to have to deal with the DFS rules. I could be totally wrong, but that is what he said. Ralph Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ? Anyone know of a way to find out what freq a weather radar is operating on? I know of several local ones and would like to know what freq they operate on for safety sake. Any ideas? I've looked everywhere and found nothing? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ? IMO, it is iffy for the reason you mentioned. The FCC (at the request of the FAA and the NTIA) appears ready to deny use of the 5.6 spectrum in areas where interference with airport weather radar takes place. I doubt that any WISP would ague that their use of that spectrum is more important than safe operation of commercial aircraft. I expect that newly certified 5 GHz equipment will soon (within the next year) include a updated DFS algorithm that looks for the presence of 5.6 GHz radar and switches away from 5.6 when radar is detected. Your existing equipment may remain technically legal but you do run the risk of possibly being blamed for aircraft crashes assuming you are unlucky enough to be using 5.6 near airports where you could cause actual interference to Terminal Doppler Weather Radar systems. See http://tiny.cc/LIlqB for more information. jack Travis Johnson wrote: It's iffy because the FCC allowed the specific band, and now they are trying to take it back away... two years later. If I never upgrade my radios, does that mean I'm legal to run in that specific band forever? I just don't understand how they can allow it for 2 years, and then try and take it away and think they are going to clean up the airways. Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks wrote: Motorola Canopy 5.4GHz radios updated with the latest firmware cannot transmit in the 5600-5650 part of the band. I don't understand what is iffy about the band... Canopy operators have been using it for two years or so now legally, and while DFS still has issues in its current implementation, the FCC is working to make the DFS detection better on the radio side and in turn make it harder to radio manufacturers to allow clients to avoid using DFS Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ? 5470 - 5725 is a legitimate band but DFS2 must be used on the radios. There is currently FCC activity to modify the DFS profiles for all newly-certified radios to avoid aircraft radar system in the 5.6 GHz part of the 5470-5725 band. The bottom line is - it's pretty iffy.jack Forbes Mercy wrote: My new MIMO radios have 5.6 GHZ on them, I don't recall that frequency being available in the US. Is it? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Sent from my Pizzicato PluckString... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
WOW! It is expensive. Nearly 3% of the revenue from each customer (assuming approx 35.00 monthly per customer) is a nice hit. And whatever their website is done in, does me in. That initializing that keeps coming up and the small typeface is frustrating. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path profile tool built-in. The person that is developing the product is a long time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel for what our industry needs. www.wispmon.com I've been a RadioMobile user for years now, but have found myself using the path profiler in wispmon more often than RadioMobile. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link $75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 www.wirelessmapping.com 607-643-4055 Voice 607-435-3988 Mobile 208-692-1898 Fax On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: THANKS to EVERYONE for their input. I'll let you know what I decide. Another question: Normally I do my path analysis with Delorme but I'm not feeling that is good enough considering the cost of the project and some trees I see in the distance. Is anyone out there offering path analysis for a fair rate? -RickG On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Rick: You have been getting some good advice here. I am not a networking guru and have never played one on TV, but do know a thing or two about RF. It seems with your physical layout you may have an opportunity for some space diversity. A simple link will probably serve you with 3 nines or so. If infrequent outages will sit OK with the user, then engineer a link with single radios. If you use some of the more inexpensive radio solutions as proffered here, you could put up two links with 20' to 30' of physical separation. Or, one dish on the water tower, and two on the new tower. The single one could be the AP and the other two remote ones stations. You could use an MT router running OSPF with one having a higher cost than the other. If one failed, the other would take over. My fear of a 20 mile link would be those atmospheric events we sometimes see -- tropospheric ducting. I would be curious what you come up with. Mike At 09:22 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote: Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions? -RickG --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle
True- Also knows an piercing the corporate veil. Had to look a long time to find a credit card processor to handle our Authorize.net transactions who did not require that. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:19 AM To: fwatts; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle That is correct you do not want to sign a personal guarantee. That breaks the corporation shell and you can then be held personally liable for a any part of the business. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of fwatts Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle My attorney has always told me not to sign a personal guarantee. If you are a corporation and you sign a personal guarantee it creates a way for some one to say you are no longer acting as a corporation but as a person and makes it easier for you to be held personaly responsible for other things having nothing to do with what you signed the guarantee in the first place. Frank Brightlan LLC - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Who signs the personal guarantee for Clearwire? ryan On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: What I suggest is if you do need to sign a personal guarantee, do it very very sparingly. If you have a personal guarantee, though, keep it at the top of the getting paid list - especially when SHTF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: LOL!!! Never, never never sign a personal guarantee. Even ATC does not require that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Crown Castle We are looking to get on a Crown Castle tower and =in their credit app they want to run personal credit and have a personal guarantee. Has anyone not signed the personal guarantee? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.82/2525 - Release Date: 11/25/09 07:31:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] 44 New Member Applicants
Wow! Good job! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 44 New Member Applicants WISPA is proud to announce 44 New Member applications since October 1st. We want to thank all the new applicants for supporting our efforts to support our Wireless Industry and each WISP business. It is truly enlightening to know that so many new companies are recognizing the value and voice that WISPA is bringing to our industry and have recognized the Power of Many, far outweighs the power of one. Michael Hughes Antelecom, Inc. Michael Liu ReadyLink Systems, Inc. Jeffrey Collins SonicNet Inc Greg BallardBroadband on Demand dba Kentucky WiMAX Matt ComeauxMain Street Internet Ty Carter Lightwave Communications of NC James ChildsVelowave Robert Haas BPS Networks Michael R MarriaRed Coyote, Inc Dennis CartyThunderbird Broadband Jack Gorman, Jr.Global NMS, Inc. Ashton Closner Gozoe Wireless LLP Richard Hatherill JrCnyWireless Michael LeesWestern Communications, Inc. Mark Montgomery Net-Change.Com Scott Johnson Turbonet Kevin TuckerTucker Communications, Inc. Michael Sanders DD Wireless Joe Knapp City of Sandy Mark Stephenson Country Conenctions Chris Johnson Global Net Inc. Shane MillerCollins Communications Inc. Brough Turner Ashtonbrooke Corporation Adam Forsee Wildfire Communications, LLC K Hugo California Broadband Services Michael Fitch BT David Raj Kishore.M Remo Communications Matthew Sickles AeroWire Comminications Inc. Tim Sylvester Avanzar Networks Curt Tuttle Til-Tek Ennio Bongiorno BBANDA S.R.L David WilliamsonWinchester Wireless Francesco Pispisa Aircomm IT S.R.L. Kristian Hoffmann Fire2Wire Evandro Varonil Americana Digital Chuck Hogg QuickLink Wireless Mark YassineBrighttel Corporation Jack Wilson Solutions4ebiz Charlie Frans Chimayo Red, LLC Eric Bermel Simple-Mobility LLC Pamela ValentineExalt Communications, Inc. Steven M. Bastardi The Home Town Network Inc Brian Vargyas Baltic Networks Chad Potts Greenway Communications LLC If you aren't yet a member of WISPA, please go to http://signup.wispa.org today to get started. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President WISPA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 802.3af POE to Passive POE
Anyone know of a gizmo that will allow a 12-15VDC device that is normally powered by passive poe (Pins 4/5 and 7/8 like UBNT and many of the others use) to be run from a port on a POE Ethernet switch (802.3af) Please tell me about it if you do. Thanks Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.3af POE to Passive POE
Must be some of the newest stuff. Thanks everyone for that info. And have a happy Thanksgiving. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Morris Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.3af POE to Passive POE Yes, you can. Ubiquiti has such a device. It takes 802.3af from a switch, and converts it to 16V regular passive PoE at the top of the tower. http://www.ubnt.com/products/8023af.php http://ubnt.com/downloads/instant8023af.pdf George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.3af POE to Passive POE The answer is no you can't, however there are units that will run those types of devices. They don't have the switch built in, so its a mid-span injector. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 802.3af POE to Passive POE Anyone know of a gizmo that will allow a 12-15VDC device that is normally powered by passive poe (Pins 4/5 and 7/8 like UBNT and many of the others use) to be run from a port on a POE Ethernet switch (802.3af) Please tell me about it if you do. Thanks Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle
And we should make sure to never, never do any of them. Any corporate lawyer will tell you that to be a corporation you have to act like a corporation, which includes all the red tape and seemingly silly stuff. But signing personal guarantees is a much less obvious way of doing it too. There are plenty of times that the company is bankrupt but the former principals still have their money and that is the reason you don't want to do this. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle There are MANY, MANY other ways to pierce the corporate veil than signing a personal guarantee. It's interesting how many corporations don't hold regular shareholder's meetings. That is often the easiest way that people break the veil without a meeting, it appears the corporation is acting as a partnership or sole proprietor, in which case there is no corporation protection. Regardless, actually breaking through the veil, etc. would only be required if the company didn't pay the bills... in which case, the company is probably bankrupt which means the person is probably without any money either... so really, it's a moo point. (Yes, I meant moo. Anyone watch Friends? :)) Travis Microserv rwf wrote: True- Also knows an piercing the corporate veil. Had to look a long time to find a credit card processor to handle our Authorize.net transactions who did not require that. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:19 AM To: fwatts; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle That is correct you do not want to sign a personal guarantee. That breaks the corporation shell and you can then be held personally liable for a any part of the business. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of fwatts Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle My attorney has always told me not to sign a personal guarantee. If you are a corporation and you sign a personal guarantee it creates a way for some one to say you are no longer acting as a corporation but as a person and makes it easier for you to be held personaly responsible for other things having nothing to do with what you signed the guarantee in the first place. Frank Brightlan LLC - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott mailto:rsp...@cspott.com rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Who signs the personal guarantee for Clearwire? ryan On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: What I suggest is if you do need to sign a personal guarantee, do it very very sparingly. If you have a personal guarantee, though, keep it at the top of the getting paid list - especially when SHTF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Blake Bowers mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: LOL!!! Never, never never sign a personal guarantee. Even ATC does not require that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: mailto:can...@believewireless.net can...@believewireless.net mailto:p...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Crown Castle We are looking to get on a Crown Castle tower and =in their credit app they want to run personal credit and have a personal guarantee. Has anyone not signed the personal guarantee? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
[WISPA] Wireless Without Limits Conference- Miami
Frank and I are on the ship now. See the rest of you tonight, I guess Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Outdoor UPS
Anyone using outdoor UPS units? Looking for about a 100-300 watt unit with 120vAC in and 120vAC out. Doing an outdoor wireless camera project and the cameras are already 120v ones, unfortunately. Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.8 vertical antenna w downtilt
I have an application where I need a 5.8 omni antenna with downtilt. The coverage diameter of the area is only about 1/10th of a mile total, and my HAAT is about 50 ft so I will need some pretty severe downtilt. Gain doesn't really matter, but a higher gain antenna is going to give me a flatter pattern- I just need it to be tilted down. This is to keep an access point from interfering with a mesh deployment further out that I want to protect as much as possible. Anyone got a suggestion for such an antenna.. Oh yeah- this has to be vertically polarized WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8 vertical antenna w downtilt
Thanks for the suggestion. I am not a fan of any omnis, really, but this needs to be an omni because this is a mesh AP. Not only that, it is a gateway or root (place where bandwidth is injected). I don't have the option of different RF hardware. An array would work, but I don't really want the (RX) loss from a power divider and an omni will do the job. It is a historic bell tower, used in many popular movies and the array would also be a lot harder to stealth. The reason I want severe downtilt is that in a mesh, you need to make sure that you don't make yourself heard by radios that are too far away because CSMA will keep both them and you from being able to transmit and will seriously harm the rest of the mesh. If I could get the antenna lower, I would. Unfortunately this is only mounting location choice to achieve LOS for this area. I am familiar with the 2 degree downtilt antennas, but for this case, I need much more that that I believe for this short of a range. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 vertical antenna w downtilt Yes, to not use an Omni, but to use an Array. Max Rad made some of the first ones for 2.4G. Hyperlinktech makes some 4 sector arrays for 5.8Ghz. If needing only Verticle polarity, this is easy. Thats the configuration they sell them in. Will probably cost you around $600, for the kit with all antennas and the combiner. You could always make your own. With a mount hieght of only 50 ft though, not sure why this is a problem, if you are only needing to extend 1/10th of a mile coverage. A nice 10dbi Omni with 2 deg elect downtilt, Proxim makes one, or Tessco's terrawave Omni, would probably work just fine for that application. For such short range, even a 7-9db antenna would be fine, giving you a plenty large enough verticle beamwidth and high enough power. If its not good enough because of NLOS foliage or Noise, I'd argue you shouldn't be using an Omni in the first place. If a low bandwdith applications, as perfect application for a StarOS system, using 4 radios (or 3 radio in this app), each on their own 5 Mhz channel, using directional antennas using the Front to back ratio advantage, buying verticle pol 120 deg sector antennas for under $150 each. Its sometimes easier to do that, than get 1 channel to survive the noise in all directions. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 vertical antenna w downtilt I have an application where I need a 5.8 omni antenna with downtilt. The coverage diameter of the area is only about 1/10th of a mile total, and my HAAT is about 50 ft so I will need some pretty severe downtilt. Gain doesn't really matter, but a higher gain antenna is going to give me a flatter pattern- I just need it to be tilted down. This is to keep an access point from interfering with a mesh deployment further out that I want to protect as much as possible. Anyone got a suggestion for such an antenna.. Oh yeah- this has to be vertically polarized WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid
Which quote from the FCC regs? The one that says You must accept any interference or the one that says you may not cause any interference to a licensed service If you can show them a license, you might have them on the second one. Unfortunately, they have YOU on the first one. They may not even be subject to the 36dB rule anyway. Better to do what you can to avoid the interference using technology (frequency change, shielding, antenna polarity, more gain on your subscriber antennas - using a type certified antenna for your certified radios, of course. Otherwise in a p#$$ing contest with the USA's largest retailer, I think I know who would win. They have invested heavily in RFID and they and Home Depot have pretty much singlehandedly set the standard for requiring their suppliers to go to it. I know, because in an earlier life, I rolled out RFID for another very large company who is one of their biggest suppliers and this company (which has the world's most recognized trademark) JUMPS when Walmart says jump! The reason I emphasize certified is that when you do engage them, they have a lot better arsenal than you and you want to be squeaky clean. Where is the store in relation to your affected tower site? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid How far is this from your site? Are they exceding 36db ERP? If they are exceding ERP and you can prove it by taking spectrum analyser out there have your lawyer send a certified letter to ADT and Walmart manager with this info and quotes from FCC rules and regulations. If there not exceding any limits you may SOL and your only option is to work around them. Sectorize your site. Matt Hello List We have an interference problem come up this week that we have been unable to resolve.Hopefully someone here has some input on how to resolve it.The problem is walmart installed a rfid scanning system at there loading dock which instantly raised the noise floor at our 900 mhz waverider access point by 20 db which killed about 30 of our weakest links.this equipment is operating across the whole band so there is no way to change channels and get away from it.The walmart store manager says its not his problem and refuses to call the company that installed it .I called the company which is adt security and they refuse to do anything unless walmart request it.walmart home office will not return my calls and the regional manager actually hung up on me and will not take calls from us now.We have been very polite with them upto this point and gave them no reason to act like jerks.Does anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this problem? Thanks Ray Hill surfmore. net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Window decal
I found some at https://www.zonerider.net/secure/zm/shop/index.php?module=shop https://www.zonerider.net/secure/zm/shop/index.php?module=shopcat=9 cat=9 They are branded Zonerider, but you could cut that part off. They cost $1.50 each To see that page, you might have to sign up as a zonemaster:, though. Someone could probably order them for you if you really wanted these particular ones. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Window decal Thanks Ryan, But I didn't want to produce them myself, I do have a couple good images, now three, but I can only find blank bumper sticker stock on semi waterproof paper, and they would rather have a interior, reverse decal, so they can wash the windows repeatedly with out destroying the sticker / label / decal. I was hoping if a member had already done some professionally I could avoid the cost of 500-1000 mim order and help another members cash flow and lingering stack of decals. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California attachment: Outlook.jpg -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Walmart
The RFID here in Georgia that the railroad uses is licensed. 2 Watts. Between 902-928 They use panels aimed at the sides of the train cars. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W.D.McKinney Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart That would be a losing battle, as we have RFID deployed all over the ship yards, the railroad and soon airport cargo facilities. The large enterprise lobby will no doubt chime in. -Dee -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Is anyone thinking about 17 and 60 ghz?
Why not? Many are already using KA band on their devices. How many DirecTV, Dish Network and WildBlue dishes do you see? KA Band: 20 GHz and 30 GHz Here's background info on how one company (WildBlue) does it. I had no idea they were using an Anik (Canadian Satellite). http://www.satsig.net/ka-band-anik-f2-wildblue-telesat.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is anyone thinking about 17 and 60 ghz? In the search for the bigger last mile pipe, there's unlicensed at both 17 and 60 ghz. I'm not sure if the consumer electronics industry is up for working at 60 ghz, but what about 17 ghz? Google gets me a lot of theoretical work at both, and engineering discussions of both, but nothing that looks like something otehr than talkware. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900 Interference- Pagers
By the way- on 2 way pagers, the portable pager device (usually 1 watt) transmits on 901 or so. Any place you have Skytel or any other 2 way you will need to make sure that YOU don't interfere with them on 901. Otherwise the shoe is on the other foot- you are out of band and they are licensed. This would mean being cognizant of where their receive antennas are and keeping your low-end 900 antennas well away from them. Of course the do have good filters because they sometimes combine antennas, but of course at that point, they are interested in filtering mostly their own 929-931 transmitters out and not 902.928. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900 interference- Filters
I have a friend who builds custom filters and has built them for the market as well as NASA. I've asked him for details on anything he sells for passing 902-928 and also protecting (notching) from specific ranges like 929. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900 interference- Licensed operation on 902-928
I am passing on a list of known Amateur Radio repeaters in the 902-928 band. If you want to be a good RF citizen and avoid interference it would be a good idea to consult this list and coordinate operation with them if you share an area. They will usually also know where other sources of interference may be. This list is given with the understand that you will use it in a constructive way, and to ensure that you are informed as to any activity out there. Remember: They are licensed- you are not. Their license (call sign) is right on the list. As an extra benefit, though, these people are anxious to work with radio technology and may already be trying to figure out what interference they are seeing may be. They have the same problems as you do with cordless phones, illegal video senders and whatnot. Some of them may be excellent resources (or potential future employees) There may also be licensed Amateur television in the same spectrum, mostly in California though. If there is an interest I can attempt to compile a list of that as well. The good word here is COORDINATE with your neighbors. Repeating for good measure: The good word here is COORDINATE with your neighbors. The URL (which should be on your favorites if you deploy 900) is http://www.ohioaprs.net/ar902/ Yes- I have one on the list. I am a WISP - and a Ham Ralph Brightlan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
400mw into a rubber duck (usually almost no gain) is probably fine. There are plenty of radios that are certified at 400 mw. Unless the rubber duck is 10 dB, I think you are fine. One that comes to mind is the Tropos 5210 mesh node. It even has 2 7.4 dBi antennas on it. It's ERP is supposedly 4 watts - which is way too much, still for a mesh with 30 nodes per sq mile, and has to be turned down anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations Hm.. My understanding is that 400mw radios are generally not FCC compliant.If that is the case, then there are a lot of telcos that have been selling non-compliant equipment in the form of those DSL modems that they sell to their customers. Just a thought. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com John J. Thomas wrote: The Telcos all over are deploying 400 mW units-anything that says 2WIRE is 400 mW. John -Original Message- From: Lonnie Nunweiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 09:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations Precisely why X2 cloaking is so important. It doubles the number of channels and X4 gives 11 of them back to us. X4 gives about 7 mbps with non compressible data and over 12 mbps with compressible data. Better than a standard B model with perfect conditions. The other thing to keep in mind is that all of those channel 6 units attached to ADSL lines are typically unused or lightly used. They connect with an ADSL line and thus cannot even begin to consume the total air time. The Telco here is distributing units with 400 mW radaios whether the client even wants wireless in their home. It does not even phase a cloaked connection so we are OK with it. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There USED to be three non overlapping channels. Now channel 6 overlaps with every third house in many markets :-). Marlon - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations Standard Wifi has 3 channels that do not overlap. X4 cloaking has 6 channels that do not overlap and X4 cloaking has 11 channels that do not overlap. We use 4 WLM-54G radios in a WAR4 and have seen no great issues unless two active radios are on the same channel. I am not sure about 6 but I know for sure that 4 works fine. Incidentally the SR9 has almost NO leakage. Even with the cards side by side they will not link up. In order to get anything from them you need a pigtail and an antenna. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at inches vs. feet is amazing. If you can keep things 3 feet apart there is much less energy, small small fractions in fact. Alvarion with their FHSS gear can get away with such things because they can always stay enough hopping channels away from near by radios. FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Where this one gets hard to explain is that people build such critters, test them in the lap and then say that they work. Life will change dramatically however, once installed into a working system AND with the addition of real customers with real traffic. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations I thought you were already working with Deliberant on just such an animal. Where are you guys with that? I know they have a dual radio unit capable of 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz in the same box. Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Playing by the rules??
I travel a lot, and over my travels I have become aware of some WISPS who are using non-certified gear, or using certified gear in a non-certified way. One of them puts an amp on almost everything. Another just puts whatever raw boards he wants to in a box and hangs them with whatever antenna he wants to use. Another of them doesn't even do power calculations to determine EIRP on big-dish links, they just use a big dish and turn up the wick to maximum glow. There was another one serving apartments who amped all his 2.4 omnis and yagis and then had the nerve to tell the FCC that he was operating under Part 18 (he's out of business now). I actually was able to have a discussion with one of them recently and the response was alarming: 1. They are too busy to worry about it- more business than they can handle. 2. Someone else in the company should know what they are doing and it isn't up to anyone else to question. 3. They have bigger fish to fry. Everyone on the block should play nice because it is a shared sandbox. A $1000.00 per day fine one day might wake them up, but why should it come to that? All the players should be setting good examples to the industry, and the bigger players should set the best example! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Automated Tower Climbs
Hard to achieve 100% tie off with that contraption, I'm sure! No thanks- I'd rather climb! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Automated Tower Climbs OSHA is gonna love that :-) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking for dual band 2.4 and 900 Sector antennas
I had thought about those, but unfortunately they are only 30 degrees wide. You'd have a fortune in Access points tied up in order to get a full circle, even if you assumed they would really cover 60 degrees. Of course that almost sounds like a 6 way cluster of Canopy APs at that point. Didn't you have some of the Superpass ones sitting in the office at Ravinia? I remember somethng tall, skinny, and dual band. Speaking of Metricom- I recently autopsied a Metricom pole top unit. They are pretty snazzy radios inside. It's a pity that they only achieved 128k with them! The radios have small patch antennas on the corners in addition to the center vertical antenna. I don't think that was well known. If there is anyone on the list who was with Ricochet/Metricom back in the day, I'd love to Email a bit with you! Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for dual band 2.4 and 900 Sector antennas If you can find some old Metrocom sectors you will have what you need. I believe a bunch of them are still up at ... if you want to take them down. Otherwise, Superpass makes some. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax
Matt- What speed/format FAX is supported now? -Original Message- At least in our markets constructions sites get wireless data and voice with working fax directly from us. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen
Rich- Just so we all know where you are coming from and in the interest of Full Disclosure, please tell us your involvement in the Dialcall/Nextel/Motorola/IDEN endeavor- specifically any vested interest in the technology (hint- Patents). -Original Message- Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen I don't know what the beef is. FleetCall bought up in the vicinity of 100 trunking SMR channels in each major metro almost 20 yrs ago. They claimed to the FCC that they could serve significantly more users than the typical 100 users/channel of the current early 90s analog technology. 100 channels at 100 users apiece serves only in the vicinity of 10,000 users. With the iDen technology they ultimately served almost half a million in the same geographic area with the same spectrum. So much for the unneeded technology assessment. Now that they're called NexTel, sure they continue adding whatever remaining licenses they can get their hands on, but the 800 and 900 Trunking and bands are land-locked (no room for expansion), so there's no new technology targeted to this band that I know of. Now that they're merged with Sprint, it's no secret where their new technology is targeted (WiMAX). Rich -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen
Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now. Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)- Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an unneeded tcchnology. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of 900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618 They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed... R -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ISPCON - Santa Clara Nov. 7-9
I'm already here, so I will try to get by -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] lightning
Yep- We look at Hamfests for any inductor with a "big hole" and pass the Ethernet or COAX through with as many turns as we can cram in the hole. Ralph From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco WirelessSent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:42 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] lightning DigiKey lists a standard inductance for each core and the frequencies they filter. Its been awhile since I researched them, but my primary focus was the FM interference and my secondary was just to get as much inductance as possible for lightning suppression. - the more times you loop the cable through it, the greater the inductance. I go for as many loops as I can possibly get. A lot of times, I buy the inductor mostlybased an the physical size that will work for my application. I use them on just about everything, even my RF pig-tails (with no looping). Brad Hagstrom On 10/17/06, Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you compute the total amount of inductance? Based on the length/properties of the Cat5 alone? Would you mind posting the formula or, better, a spreadsheet like that posted for solar? Best,-- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
I guess... If you want to give your company away. Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered? I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway g. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition To us on the inside (ISP owners/operators), 1.4x annual revenue sounds cheap but when you are on the outside it is not so cheap. I know we would sell our ISP for this amount but there are very few qualified buyers in the ISP marketplace at this time these few are looking for 1x annual revenue type deals. So, 1.4x annual revenue is actually really good considering the market at this time. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Independent Towers
The conglomerate tower owners know that there are only so many broadband (cellular) carriers to go around. The prices will drop for the WISPs as soon as the broadband business runs out! Cellular buildout cannot go on forever. There are plenty of independent tower owners who will welcome the WISP as a tenant and not rip him off. Of course as both a WISP and a tower owner, let me say that not all WISPs I know of pay their bills on time (or at all). If you need space in Dalton GA, Chatsworth GA, Calhoun GA, Rome GA, Marietta GA, Atlanta GA, Cartersville GA, or Ellijay GA just give a holler- I can hook you up on one of my towers or those of a few other independent owners. We are not ALL jerks to deal with (but if you don't pay, we will unplug your gear)! Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Hi, The problem is that cell carriers (at least in my area) pay $500 - $2,000 per month to be on a tower... the same towers that I pay $100 - $250 per month. If you owned the towers, which customer would _you_ rather have? :( Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: It seems we (people on this list) are always easily dismissed by large tower owners. These dismissals are often in the form of here, pay this $! fee up front to deal with us or who are you again? or my favorite and one that was told to me by an American Tower Rep: we don't deal with WISPs unless they are named Clearwire. Is WISPA (or Part-15 for that matter) doing anything to negotiate standard or discount leases with these tower owners? I am not a member of either organization but this sort of thing would definitely make me want to join up in a hurry. I also think that if tower owners were faced with an organized group of people they might cut though some of the BS we face when working out leases. Just a suggestion, ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Accounting for Mikrotik Hotspot
Is anyone using a solution to handle user signups and credit card billing for the Mikrotik Hotspot. It can use RADIUS, and I know there is one service called tollbooth, but I'd like an app I can run myself and not have to pay someone a cut of the proceeds. Thanks -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] TV band issue.
A TV channel is 6 MHz wide if that helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] TV band issue. How wide is the band, you think we can squeeze 10mbps on it? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] TV band issue.
They are log-periodic antennas, not tuned for any particular frequency. They cover 50-900 Mhz (approximately). TV channel 16, for example is approximately 475 MHz (or so). The 850 Mhz cellular spectrum is what became of the TV channels above 69. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV band issue. John, I was not aware that most television antennas were directional Yagis. I thought they picked up from every which direction. Now that you mention it, that makes since based on their shape. :-) Thanks for the info. Would we need to be concerned about the amount of loss over the existing TV Coax cable (RG6?), or beable to re-use it? I'm assuming it would be beneficial to be recabled with low loss LMR? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
