Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
I have a repeater in my car for my Nextel phone, and while it doesn't make the signal perfect, it does change a 2 bar area into a 4 or 5 bar area, and the deadspots are much smaller. It cost about $179.00. John Thomas Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've looked into it. Not done so yet but I keep thinking it would be cool to try something like that with a yagi going back to the main tower and an omni, or even another yagi, for local service. I keep thinking about putting a booster setup like that in my car too. grin I've seen dual band setups. marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
I have had the same results with the Wilson Electronics auto repeater with CINGULAR / ATT. They really work well, if there is signal. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. I have a repeater in my car for my Nextel phone, and while it doesn't make the signal perfect, it does change a 2 bar area into a 4 or 5 bar area, and the deadspots are much smaller. It cost about $179.00. John Thomas Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've looked into it. Not done so yet but I keep thinking it would be cool to try something like that with a yagi going back to the main tower and an omni, or even another yagi, for local service. I keep thinking about putting a booster setup like that in my car too. grin I've seen dual band setups. marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. - --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
http://www.unitywireless.com/activerf.html CHUCK PROFITO wrote: I have had the same results with the Wilson Electronics auto repeater with CINGULAR / ATT. They really work well, if there is signal. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. I have a repeater in my car for my Nextel phone, and while it doesn't make the signal perfect, it does change a 2 bar area into a 4 or 5 bar area, and the deadspots are much smaller. It cost about $179.00. John Thomas Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've looked into it. Not done so yet but I keep thinking it would be cool to try something like that with a yagi going back to the main tower and an omni, or even another yagi, for local service. I keep thinking about putting a booster setup like that in my car too. grin I've seen dual band setups. marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. - --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Couldn't you charge a monthly maintenance fee to someone for monitoring the units uptime? On 9/6/07, Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
RE: [WISPA Members] communication (was Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.)
Correction, I have made the needed revisions to the webpage code of ethics as of last night. Unless there is further discussion about other changes, we are complete for now. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] communication (was Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.) The revisions to the Code of Ethics are not completed yet. We are redefining the terms under which we will all act and behave as a condition of membership in WISPA. Our Code of Ethics is the only logical place I know of for us to state that we will support the following of all laws. Once the revisions are completed we will send a public statement along with a copy of the updated text. Our Board Meeting minutes are being put together now so we can send those to all members for review via this list. All WISPA members are subscribed to this list. Let us know if we are missing anything else here. All the best, Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: In a email addressing Ralph directly that went to the list at large I learned there was a WISPA Board meeting and a Code of Ethics change. This seems like a terrible way to communicate such information to our members especially since not all members are on the public list. -Matt Rick Harnish wrote: Ralph, I have placed you on moderation. I will approve or disapprove all of your posts to this public list. I expect your cooperation in this matter. By the way, we did make a change to Article 2 of the Code of Ethics this morning in our board meeting in response to your pleas. I'm sure it isn't enough to satisfy you but it is the best we can do at this time. WISPA represents all WISPs and will seek to guide them into compliance through various means. This will be continued discussion with the FCC on rule modification, pressuring vendors to certify all systems and hardware and educating the members on the importance of certification. This will not be a quick process and may take years to accomplish. I hope you realize that your comments are driving more people away from WISPA than they are educating. Please keep your comments and discussions civil. While you may be completely legal with your compliance, your tact and lack of politeness on the list is disgraceful, thus in my opinion, you are no better than any non-compliant WISP in our fold. If you want to be perceived as a professional then you need to start acting professional. I have not moderated your posts on the member's only list as it is a private list. However, I expect the same degree of proper decorum on that list as well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish List Moderator ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 8:36 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 8:36 AM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Scottie: We did a U.S. Cellular repeating solution for a company here in North Carolina. We are authorized partners of Spotwave and were one of the first companies to deploy in North Carolina. The product has been pretty much hands off since day one (almost three years now). The client went from zero service inside their facility to 5 bars. I'm not going to masquerade the fact; it was a little on the expensive side by any measure but you are dealing with a FCC Licensed frequency; we put in 1 donor unit and 2 repeaters. I will be glad to give you a reference if you want to talk directly to a customer that uses it. We are extremely happy with the Spotwave product line and would not hesitate to deploy it again should it be required. The only thing is you only buy one carrier freq per unit; so you have three carriers you want to enhance; you will have three donor units and repeaters. It me offlist if you want more... -- Regards, Ty Carter, President Strategic Network Consultants, Inc. 524 East 9th Street Washington, NC 27889 252-946-0351 .::. Office 252-402-5296 .::. Cell 252-946-8763 .::. Fax E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us on the web at: http://www.strategicconsultants.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
I've looked into it. Not done so yet but I keep thinking it would be cool to try something like that with a yagi going back to the main tower and an omni, or even another yagi, for local service. I keep thinking about putting a booster setup like that in my car too. grin I've seen dual band setups. marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
http://www.wi-ex.com/ A kid that works for me used one of these and a 13db yagi. Works great. c ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Have a look at this link. I think you'll find this to be what you seek. It's very straight forward and non-technical. http://www.mycellularsolutions.com/Inbuilding.html -Mark Williams On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 01:15 -0500, Scottie Arnett wrote: Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
I am wondering. If you put in a repeater... can you charge a roaming fee to the provider/subscriber? ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Scottie: We did a U.S. Cellular repeating solution for a company here in North Carolina. We are authorized partners of Spotwave and were one of the first companies to deploy in North Carolina. The product has been pretty much hands off since day one (almost three years now). The client went from zero service inside their facility to 5 bars. I'm not going to masquerade the fact; it was a little on the expensive side by any measure but you are dealing with a FCC Licensed frequency; we put in 1 donor unit and 2 repeaters. I will be glad to give you a reference if you want to talk directly to a customer that uses it. We are extremely happy with the Spotwave product line and would not hesitate to deploy it again should it be required. The only thing is you only buy one carrier freq per unit; so you have three carriers you want to enhance; you will have three donor units and repeaters. It me offlist if you want more... -- Regards, Ty Carter, President Strategic Network Consultants, Inc. 524 East 9th Street Washington, NC 27889 252-946-0351 .::. Office 252-402-5296 .::. Cell 252-946-8763 .::. Fax E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us on the web at: http://www.strategicconsultants.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
My father-in-law lives in Northern Idaho completely off-grid. He uses this little device for his home phone: http://www.coolproductz.com/ You plug your Cell-phone into it and it becomes a little CO for your home. You plug the device into any of your home phone wires (as long as you are not connected to the telco) and then all of the normal handsets plugged into the phone wiring in your house can dial out via the cell phone. My FIL has a yagi attached to his cell-socket to boost the gain to the nearest cell tower, about 18 miles away. We have one in our ambulance so the medics can use a normal wired princess handset while performing patient care. (You would be amazed at how much anxiety a high tech piece of equipment like a cell phone can bring to the average firefighter/Medic!) The neighboring fire district runs a 900Mhz portable phone so they can bring it into homes with them. This device does not support fax or modems from what I can tell. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. I've looked into it. Not done so yet but I keep thinking it would be cool to try something like that with a yagi going back to the main tower and an omni, or even another yagi, for local service. I keep thinking about putting a booster setup like that in my car too. grin I've seen dual band setups. marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Glad I could help... I'm not saying you can't do it with some other solution (unlicensed) but you best be prepared for the consequences if the cell provider gets wind of...They have spent millions of dollars in their infrastructure and don't think for one minute they would not haul your company to court over something like that. As a matter a fact; when I was doing my first authorized deployment with Spotwave; we had a conference call with US Cellular and even though Spotwave was an authorized system on the US Cellular network; the engineers would not give us coordinates or even identify the location of the tower we were trying to repeat... They claimed it was proprietary and a trade secret... and gave us NO assistance with anything. They also told us if they had one complaint about this equipment causing a problem; they would come shut it down. We had to give them contacts for the building where the equipment was. Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Ralph: While I appreciate your position; and I am all about protecting the spectrum and legalities; you don't have to keep beating this horse to death... Let it go already.. Thanks, Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
In my area, there are a lot of people who have phones with external antenna connectors. A lot of them have a 8-13db yagi outside, mounted high, with a cable run and pigtail to connect to their phone. Verzion and Centennial, while not exactly happy about it, do provide the needed info to get it working. Else the user will quit... Ty Carter Lightwave Communications wrote: Glad I could help... I'm not saying you can't do it with some other solution (unlicensed) but you best be prepared for the consequences if the cell provider gets wind of...They have spent millions of dollars in their infrastructure and don't think for one minute they would not haul your company to court over something like that. As a matter a fact; when I was doing my first authorized deployment with Spotwave; we had a conference call with US Cellular and even though Spotwave was an authorized system on the US Cellular network; the engineers would not give us coordinates or even identify the location of the tower we were trying to repeat... They claimed it was "proprietary" and a trade secret... and gave us NO assistance with anything. They also told us if they had one complaint about this equipment causing a problem; they would come shut it down. We had to give them contacts for the building where the equipment was. Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: "Scottie Arnett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubs
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Okay, this guy needs to go... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Their tower locations are public knowledge with the FCC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Glad I could help... I'm not saying you can't do it with some other solution (unlicensed) but you best be prepared for the consequences if the cell provider gets wind of...They have spent millions of dollars in their infrastructure and don't think for one minute they would not haul your company to court over something like that. As a matter a fact; when I was doing my first authorized deployment with Spotwave; we had a conference call with US Cellular and even though Spotwave was an authorized system on the US Cellular network; the engineers would not give us coordinates or even identify the location of the tower we were trying to repeat... They claimed it was proprietary and a trade secret... and gave us NO assistance with anything. They also told us if they had one complaint about this equipment causing a problem; they would come shut it down. We had to give them contacts for the building where the equipment was. Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. (RICK)
Ralph, I think I will forward Harnish your email since it is obvious you are trolling for trouble. My recommendation is going to be to expel you from the list. Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Sorry for the incontinence displayed by Ralph guys. We will maintain a civil list here and will not tolerate trolling for trouble to this degree. Sorry again, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Okay, this guy needs to go... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
External antennas are a whole nother ball of wax. The repeaters have bunches of rules to go by. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. In my area, there are a lot of people who have phones with external antenna connectors. A lot of them have a 8-13db yagi outside, mounted high, with a cable run and pigtail to connect to their phone. Verzion and Centennial, while not exactly happy about it, do provide the needed info to get it working. Else the user will quit... rchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Ralph - you need to just learn how to keep your mouth shut sometimes. I don't care if I get banned or not, but your posts and tone towards others on this list has become absolutely annoying. You are responsible for many on this list not posting at all anymore. I don't know who the hell you THINK you are but what have YOU done for this industry ? What have you done for WISPA ? What have you done for this public list other then make it a less enjoyable place for others since you been around ? It's easy for someon to come on here and blab their mouth and make the arrogant/obnoxious comments as you do at times when they don't do CRAP for this organization or this industry. You are one of those that is out for yourself. Your posts are meaningless to me at this point and I am not the only one who has this opinion. I don't appreciate how you bash others with your petty posts about compliance or non-compliance, like you are 1 step above the ones that are either half way compliant or not compliant. Your motorola radios are FCC Certified but they also TRASH any useable band they operate in ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Almost ANY non-compliant equipment builders out there operate systems that are much more co-location friendly, they allow multiple people in the areas to operate on the same frequencies. Stick a pipe in it already Compliant systems Do me and 100s of others a favor and go do some work, keep your mouth shut unless you have something valuable to share. Apparently you have MUCH too much time on your hands. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Thanks for the useful information about Cell Phone Repeaters. No thanks for the non-related information. This thread is now CLOSED. Any more onlist responses to it will be forwarded to the list moderator and the contributors will be suspended from the list. NEW SUBJECT! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Wow guys. Didn't mean to cause a rukus. Anyways, thanks to everyone that constructively replied on and off list. The boat dock sits down in a hollow and the reception is terrible. 1 bar in most places if you hold your head just right. Wilson told us how to put our phone in service mode to show the dB of the signal and it was around -93dB on the dock. They said we needed it at least around -80dB or better. On the hill above the dock, we raised up about 35ft in our bucket truck and got -78dB or so; therefore, they will need a tower put up. The dock is about 200ft LOS from the top of the hill and Wilson says that their product will reach about 250ft radius. They are planning on using a yagi to pick up the signal and an omni to repeat it. Equipment pricing is going to be in the $2000 to $3000 range from Wilson. I want to buy this from a reputable company and make sure that it is legal. I thought some of you guys may have done this type of work before and could offer me some other alternatives or suggestions? Wilson says they can't be for sure that it will work good at the dock because it is very near the reach of their equipment. We have already spoke with Verizon and they do not have a problem with it as long as its done within legal limits. Another dock about 3 miles up the lake already has a Wilson system installed and working, but they had a better receive signal than the dock I am working on. Yea Charles, this is a nice boat dock with some $300,000+ house boats at it. They are building a floating restaurant and have poured over a half mil into it already and its not 3/4 of the way done. The repeater is to provide service inside this restaurant and the houseboats around it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Ralph, I have placed you on moderation. I will approve or disapprove all of your posts to this public list. I expect your cooperation in this matter. By the way, we did make a change to Article 2 of the Code of Ethics this morning in our board meeting in response to your pleas. I'm sure it isn't enough to satisfy you but it is the best we can do at this time. WISPA represents all WISPs and will seek to guide them into compliance through various means. This will be continued discussion with the FCC on rule modification, pressuring vendors to certify all systems and hardware and educating the members on the importance of certification. This will not be a quick process and may take years to accomplish. I hope you realize that your comments are driving more people away from WISPA than they are educating. Please keep your comments and discussions civil. While you may be completely legal with your compliance, your tact and lack of politeness on the list is disgraceful, thus in my opinion, you are no better than any non-compliant WISP in our fold. If you want to be perceived as a professional then you need to start acting professional. I have not moderated your posts on the member's only list as it is a private list. However, I expect the same degree of proper decorum on that list as well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish List Moderator -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Yes, the truth does hurt... Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful.. Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment. Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_ and _relevant_ to my work. ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Amen! But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were written for all the OTHER people. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ty Carter Lightwave Communications Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front... Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or broadcasting of a cell providers frequency. And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not. 1. You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of 2. You don't own the freq. 3. You don't have the subscriber Shall I go on... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Cc: Jack Daniel Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Be prepared... In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical AND legal side of this. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters. Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
[WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.
Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before? I have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but have no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna and they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to be able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before and what kind of results they have had? TIA. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
