subject:"RE\: \[WIRELESS\-LAN\] 2.4 vs 5"

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-08 Thread Green, William C

We are seeing many of the congestion issues of 2.4GHz ameliorating themselves 
as clients are self-selecting 5GHz.  Especially in the higher density 
environments where the 2.4GHz congestion was extreme.

On our campus, 5GHz now represents 80% of the data transferred (up from 28% six 
years ago), and 63% of the association time (up from 22%).  Even higher in high 
density environments.  I expected continued increases as we replace more EOL 
WAPs with 802.11ac capable ones (many popular clients are preferring 802.11ac).

Less dire than before.

--
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gr...@austin.utexas.edu
Director, Networking and Telecommunications   phone:   +1 512-475-9295
ITS (Information Technology Services) fax: +1 512-471-2449
University of Texas
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-08 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler

I would add that with the forthcoming 802.11ax, improvements are also being 
extended to 2.4, meaning the life-span of 2.4 is being reset in some form. As 
such, we’ll likely see devices continue in 2.4 for many years, especially those 
that benefit from staying anchored to the same AP (less roaming).

Jeff

From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
on behalf of Jake Snyder <jsnyde...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 6:20 PM
To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

One thing I like in your design is the 5GHz only and dual band.  So many people 
try a 5GHz only and a 2.4Ghz only and it backfires on them.



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Jason Cook 
<jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au<mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au>> wrote:
We have a dedicated 5ghz SSID but it’s in addition to our standard which is not 
ideal… too many SSID’s doing the same thing
So our dot1x auth’s are
UofA (2.4&5)
UofA 5ghz (5 only)
eduroam (2.4 & 5)

We still see plenty of brand new devices on 2.4 only and I was helping a 
student recently who grabbed an old laptop out of hard rubbish. So we are stuck 
with making them work but in doing so we see 5ghz capable devices sitting on 
2.4 which isn’t so good. The extra SSID was fired up as a test and worked, so 
got stuck there but we  still don’t classify it under our production since it’s 
poorly named.

For end of year I’m proposing the removal of “UofA 5ghz” and making “UofA” a 
5ghz only SSID with eduroam covering both 5 and 2.4. Our users get the same 
service on eduroam anyway as they would on our branded SSID(ip connectivity 
wise).

A few years back I posted a discussion about this where we were considering 
something similar but having a 2.4ghz only network as UofA-legacy or the 5ghz 
network as UofA-Premium etc. since the current “UofA 5ghz” is technical and 
users don’t know what it means.  We never got to a point where we were fully 
happy with the plan but in general we preferred the idea that if your 2.4ghz 
only you go on something called legacy to help drive the idea that they would 
ideally not use such a device.


--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Casey Feskens
Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 4:58 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been trying 
to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of wireless 
performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4 networks vs. 
5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their devices could not see 
the 5GHz SSID.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller 
<hf0...@uah.edu<mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>> wrote:
Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and walk 
out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<j...@scrippscollege.edu<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:
I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example, 
while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s 
likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas that 
devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for “in 
flight” devices.

Jeff

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Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 and 
gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?


Cheers,
Jeff

---

Jeffrey L. Oliver
Manager, Network and Telecommunications
Information Technology Services
The University of Lethbridge
4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4

Tel: 403.329.5162<tel:(403)%20329-5162>
Mob: 403.315.4461<tel:(403)%20315-4461>

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-07 Thread Hunter Fuller

Also, I think saying that students "save $30 on the laptop buying it with
just the 2.4 radio" implies an unrealistic degree of involvement in the
technical aspects of buying a new computer. If people thought this way, I
think we would see this problem less often, because everyone loves fast
Internet connections. But those selling the computers are, more than
likely, unable to articulate the benefits of the 5GHz card, if they even
know which computers have them at all.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:43 AM Wyatt Schill <wsch...@greenriver.edu> wrote:

> Certainly not an option for us, being a community college means a lot of
> low income students.  Possibly why I still see several handfuls of iPhone 4
> phones (circa 2010) on my wifi.  Lots of 2.4 only devices, and I don’t see
> that changing for a while.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wyatt Schill
>
> Senior Network Engineer
>
> CCNP–R : CCNA-Security
>
> Green River College
>
> 12401 SE 320th St. Auburn, WA 98092
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Danny Eaton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:20 AM
>
>
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>
>
>
> I see so many IoT devices that are 2.4 only; as well as the students save
> $30 on the laptop buying it with just the 2.4 radio (but it’s 802.11n!)
> that many of them come that way as well.  We’re testing a “Rice Owls” (dual
> band) and a “Rice Owls 5 GHz” (uhm, 5 GHz only, of course) in limited
> areas, and so far, the results are positive.
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Coehoorn, Joel
> *Sent:* Monday, March 06, 2017 10:45 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>
>
>
> We still have a lot of devices (especially low-end smartphones) that only
> have 2.4 radios.
>
>
>
>
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603 <(402)%20363-5603>
> *jcoeho...@york.edu <jcoeho...@york.edu>*
>
> *Please contact helpd...@york.edu <helpd...@york.edu> for technical
> assistance.*
>
>
>
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
> God, family, and society
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Oliver, Jeff <jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4
> and gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Jeffrey L. Oliver
>
> Manager, Network and Telecommunications
>
> Information Technology Services
>
> The University of Lethbridge
>
> 4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4
>
>
>
> Tel: 403.329.5162 <(403)%20329-5162>
>
> Mob: 403.315.4461 <(403)%20315-4461>
>
>
>
> URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca
>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-07 Thread Wyatt Schill

Certainly not an option for us, being a community college means a lot of low 
income students.  Possibly why I still see several handfuls of iPhone 4 phones 
(circa 2010) on my wifi.  Lots of 2.4 only devices, and I don’t see that 
changing for a while.



Wyatt Schill
Senior Network Engineer
CCNP–R : CCNA-Security
Green River College
12401 SE 320th St. Auburn, WA 98092



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:20 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

I see so many IoT devices that are 2.4 only; as well as the students save $30 
on the laptop buying it with just the 2.4 radio (but it’s 802.11n!) that many 
of them come that way as well.  We’re testing a “Rice Owls” (dual band) and a 
“Rice Owls 5 GHz” (uhm, 5 GHz only, of course) in limited areas, and so far, 
the results are positive.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Coehoorn, Joel
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 10:45 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

We still have a lot of devices (especially low-end smartphones) that only have 
2.4 radios.



[http://www.york.edu/Portals/0/Images/Logo/YorkCollegeLogoSmall.jpg]


Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
jcoeho...@york.edu<mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu>



Please contact helpd...@york.edu<mailto:helpd...@york.edu> for technical 
assistance.

The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered 
education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Oliver, Jeff 
<jeff.oli...@uleth.ca<mailto:jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>> wrote:
Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 and 
gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?


Cheers,
Jeff

---

Jeffrey L. Oliver
Manager, Network and Telecommunications
Information Technology Services
The University of Lethbridge
4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4

Tel: 403.329.5162<tel:(403)%20329-5162>
Mob: 403.315.4461<tel:(403)%20315-4461>

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-07 Thread Ian Lyons

I don’t think there is Nirvana.  Just lesser degrees of complaints.

Each environment seems to have unique challenges, both in the WiFi radio space 
*and* with applications and students “needs”.

Students also, for whatever reason, do not share their “This sucks” messages 
with helpdesk/staff.  They suffer in silence until it hits critical mass and 
then they explode.  I find walking the public spaces, cafeterias and asking 
people “how are things” is the best way to get a pulse.   Surveys also help, 
but there is a built in drama factor with them.



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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hunter Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 10:45 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

Yes, we are attempting this strategy, but so far the rejoicing has been more 
limited than one might hope. Will let everyone know if that changes.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 21:10 Ian Lyons 
<ily...@rollins.edu<mailto:ily...@rollins.edu>> wrote:

My $.02

You need both bands.  Build out your network for 5.0 ghz range circles around 
an AP (with some over lap) using a program to map out the wifi space and turn 
off extraneous 2.4 radios

Balance is achieved, users can connect on almost every device and there will be 
rejoicing  in the land.

Okay, maybe not the last part.

Ian Lyons
Network Engineer
Rollins College

Get Outlook for Android


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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Jake Snyder <jsnyde...@gmail.com<mailto:jsnyde...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 9:20:11 PM

To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
One thing I like in your design is the 5GHz only and dual band.  So many people 
try a 5GHz only and a 2.4Ghz only and it backfires on them.



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Jason Cook 
<jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au<mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au>> wrote:
We have a dedicated 5ghz SSID but it’s in addition to our standard which is not 
ideal… too many SSID’s doing the same thing
So our dot1x auth’s are
UofA (2.4&5)
UofA 5ghz (5 only)
eduroam (2.4 & 5)

We still see plenty of brand new devices on 2.4 only and I was helping a 
student recently who grabbed an old laptop out of hard rubbish. So we are stuck 
with making them work but in doing so we see 5ghz capable devices sitting on 
2.4 which isn’t so good. The extra SSID was fired up as a test and worked, so 
got stuck there but we  still don’t classify it under our production since it’s 
poorly named.

For end of year I’m proposing the removal of “UofA 5ghz” and making “UofA” a 
5ghz only SSID with eduroam covering both 5 and 2.4. Our users get the same 
service on eduroam anyway as they would on our branded SSID(ip connectivity 
wise).

A few years back I posted a discussion about this where we were considering 
something similar but having a 2.4ghz only network as UofA-legacy or the 5ghz 
network as UofA-Premium etc. since the current “UofA 5ghz” is technical and 
users don’t know what it means.  We never got to a point where we were fully 
happy with the plan but in general we preferred the idea that if your 2.4ghz 
only you go on something called legacy to help drive the idea that they would 
ideally not use such a device.


--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Casey Feskens
Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 4:58 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been trying 
to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of wireless 
performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4 networks vs. 
5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their devices could not see 
the 5GHz SSID.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller 
<hf0...@uah.edu<mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>> wrote:
Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and walk 
out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<j...@scrippscollege.edu<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:
I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example, 
while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s 
likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas that 
devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for “in 
flight” devices.

Jeff

From: 
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-07 Thread Danny Eaton

I see so many IoT devices that are 2.4 only; as well as the students save $30 
on the laptop buying it with just the 2.4 radio (but it’s 802.11n!) that many 
of them come that way as well.  We’re testing a “Rice Owls” (dual band) and a 
“Rice Owls 5 GHz” (uhm, 5 GHz only, of course) in limited areas, and so far, 
the results are positive.  

 

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Coehoorn, Joel
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 10:45 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

 

We still have a lot of devices (especially low-end smartphones) that only have 
2.4 radios.




 


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Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
jcoeho...@york.edu <mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu> 




Please contact helpd...@york.edu <mailto:helpd...@york.edu>  for technical 
assistance.

 

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education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society

 

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Oliver, Jeff <jeff.oli...@uleth.ca 
<mailto:jeff.oli...@uleth.ca> > wrote:

Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 and 
gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?

 

 

Cheers,

Jeff

 

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Jeffrey L. Oliver

Manager, Network and Telecommunications

Information Technology Services

The University of Lethbridge

4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4

 

Tel: 403.329.5162 <tel:(403)%20329-5162> 

Mob: 403.315.4461 <tel:(403)%20315-4461> 

 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Hunter Fuller

Yes, we are attempting this strategy, but so far the rejoicing has been
more limited than one might hope. Will let everyone know if that changes.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 21:10 Ian Lyons <ily...@rollins.edu> wrote:

> My $.02
>
> You need both bands.  Build out your network for 5.0 ghz range circles
> around an AP (with some over lap) using a program to map out the wifi space
> and turn off extraneous 2.4 radios
>
> Balance is achieved, users can connect on almost every device and there
> will be rejoicing  in the land.
>
> Okay, maybe not the last part.
>
> Ian Lyons
> Network Engineer
> Rollins College
>
> Get Outlook for Android
>
> --
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Jake Snyder <
> jsnyde...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 9:20:11 PM
>
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
> One thing I like in your design is the 5GHz only and dual band.  So many
> people try a 5GHz only and a 2.4Ghz only and it backfires on them.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Jason Cook <jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
>
> We have a dedicated 5ghz SSID but it’s in addition to our standard which
> is not ideal… too many SSID’s doing the same thing
>
> So our dot1x auth’s are
>
> UofA (2.4&5)
>
> UofA 5ghz (5 only)
>
> eduroam (2.4 & 5)
>
>
>
> We still see plenty of brand new devices on 2.4 only and I was helping a
> student recently who grabbed an old laptop out of hard rubbish. So we are
> stuck with making them work but in doing so we see 5ghz capable devices
> sitting on 2.4 which isn’t so good. The extra SSID was fired up as a test
> and worked, so got stuck there but we  still don’t classify it under our
> production since it’s poorly named.
>
>
>
> For end of year I’m proposing the removal of “UofA 5ghz” and making “UofA”
> a 5ghz only SSID with eduroam covering both 5 and 2.4. Our users get the
> same service on eduroam anyway as they would on our branded SSID(ip
> connectivity wise).
>
>
>
> A few years back I posted a discussion about this where we were
> considering something similar but having a 2.4ghz only network as
> UofA-legacy or the 5ghz network as UofA-Premium etc. since the current
> “UofA 5ghz” is technical and users don’t know what it means.  We never got
> to a point where we were fully happy with the plan but in general we
> preferred the idea that if your 2.4ghz only you go on something called
> legacy to help drive the idea that they would ideally not use such a
> device.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jason Cook
>
> Technology Services
>
> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
>
> Ph: +61 8 8313 4800
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Casey Feskens
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 March 2017 4:58 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>
>
>
> We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been
> trying to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of
> wireless performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4
> networks vs. 5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their
> devices could not see the 5GHz SSID.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller <hf0...@uah.edu> wrote:
>
> Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and
> walk out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler <
> j...@scrippscollege.edu> wrote:
>
> I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example,
> while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s
> likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas
> that devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for
> “in flight” devices.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> *From: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" <
> jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>
> *Reply-To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Date: *Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
> *To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>
>
&

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Ian Lyons

My $.02

You need both bands.  Build out your network for 5.0 ghz range circles around 
an AP (with some over lap) using a program to map out the wifi space and turn 
off extraneous 2.4 radios

Balance is achieved, users can connect on almost every device and there will be 
rejoicing  in the land.

Okay, maybe not the last part.

Ian Lyons
Network Engineer
Rollins College

Get Outlook for Android



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Jake Snyder 
<jsnyde...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 9:20:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

One thing I like in your design is the 5GHz only and dual band.  So many people 
try a 5GHz only and a 2.4Ghz only and it backfires on them.



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Jason Cook 
<jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au<mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au>> wrote:

We have a dedicated 5ghz SSID but it’s in addition to our standard which is not 
ideal… too many SSID’s doing the same thing
So our dot1x auth’s are
UofA (2.4&5)
UofA 5ghz (5 only)
eduroam (2.4 & 5)

We still see plenty of brand new devices on 2.4 only and I was helping a 
student recently who grabbed an old laptop out of hard rubbish. So we are stuck 
with making them work but in doing so we see 5ghz capable devices sitting on 
2.4 which isn’t so good. The extra SSID was fired up as a test and worked, so 
got stuck there but we  still don’t classify it under our production since it’s 
poorly named.

For end of year I’m proposing the removal of “UofA 5ghz” and making “UofA” a 
5ghz only SSID with eduroam covering both 5 and 2.4. Our users get the same 
service on eduroam anyway as they would on our branded SSID(ip connectivity 
wise).

A few years back I posted a discussion about this where we were considering 
something similar but having a 2.4ghz only network as UofA-legacy or the 5ghz 
network as UofA-Premium etc. since the current “UofA 5ghz” is technical and 
users don’t know what it means.  We never got to a point where we were fully 
happy with the plan but in general we preferred the idea that if your 2.4ghz 
only you go on something called legacy to help drive the idea that they would 
ideally not use such a device.


--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Casey Feskens
Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 4:58 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been trying 
to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of wireless 
performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4 networks vs. 
5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their devices could not see 
the 5GHz SSID.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller 
<hf0...@uah.edu<mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>> wrote:
Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and walk 
out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<j...@scrippscollege.edu<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:
I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example, 
while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s 
likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas that 
devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for “in 
flight” devices.

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" <jeff.oli...@uleth.ca<mailto:jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>>
Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 and 
gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?


Cheers,
Jeff

---

Jeffrey L. Oliver
Manager, Network and Telecommunications
Information Technology Services
The University of Lethbridge
4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4

Tel: 403.329.5162<tel:(403)%20329-5162>
Mob: 403.315.4461<tel:(403)%20315-4461>

URI:   jeff.oli...@u

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Jake Snyder

One thing I like in your design is the 5GHz only and dual band.  So many people 
try a 5GHz only and a 2.4Ghz only and it backfires on them.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Jason Cook <jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> We have a dedicated 5ghz SSID but it’s in addition to our standard which is 
> not ideal… too many SSID’s doing the same thing
> So our dot1x auth’s are
> UofA (2.4&5)
> UofA 5ghz (5 only)
> eduroam (2.4 & 5)
>  
> We still see plenty of brand new devices on 2.4 only and I was helping a 
> student recently who grabbed an old laptop out of hard rubbish. So we are 
> stuck with making them work but in doing so we see 5ghz capable devices 
> sitting on 2.4 which isn’t so good. The extra SSID was fired up as a test and 
> worked, so got stuck there but we  still don’t classify it under our 
> production since it’s poorly named.
>  
> For end of year I’m proposing the removal of “UofA 5ghz” and making “UofA” a 
> 5ghz only SSID with eduroam covering both 5 and 2.4. Our users get the same 
> service on eduroam anyway as they would on our branded SSID(ip connectivity 
> wise).
>  
> A few years back I posted a discussion about this where we were considering 
> something similar but having a 2.4ghz only network as UofA-legacy or the 5ghz 
> network as UofA-Premium etc. since the current “UofA 5ghz” is technical and 
> users don’t know what it means.  We never got to a point where we were fully 
> happy with the plan but in general we preferred the idea that if your 2.4ghz 
> only you go on something called legacy to help drive the idea that they would 
> ideally not use such a device.
>  
>  
> --
> Jason Cook
> Technology Services
> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
> Ph: +61 8 8313 4800
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Casey Feskens
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 4:58 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>  
> We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been trying 
> to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of wireless 
> performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4 networks vs. 
> 5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their devices could not 
> see the 5GHz SSID.
>  
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller <hf0...@uah.edu> wrote:
> Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and walk 
> out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.
>  
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler <j...@scrippscollege.edu> 
> wrote:
> I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example, 
> while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s 
> likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas 
> that devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for 
> “in flight” devices.
>  
> Jeff
>  
> From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" 
> <jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>
> Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
> To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>  
> Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 
> and gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?
>  
>  
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>  
> ---
>  
> Jeffrey L. Oliver
> Manager, Network and Telecommunications
> Information Technology Services
> The University of Lethbridge
> 4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4
>  
> Tel: 403.329.5162
> Mob: 403.315.4461
>  
> URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca
> Web:http://www.uleth.ca/information-technology/
>  
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE 
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
> http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
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> 
>  
> --
> -
> Casey Feskens <cfesk...@willamette.edu>
> Director of Infrastructure Services
> Willamette Integrated Te

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Jason Cook

We have a dedicated 5ghz SSID but it’s in addition to our standard which is not 
ideal… too many SSID’s doing the same thing
So our dot1x auth’s are
UofA (2.4&5)
UofA 5ghz (5 only)
eduroam (2.4 & 5)

We still see plenty of brand new devices on 2.4 only and I was helping a 
student recently who grabbed an old laptop out of hard rubbish. So we are stuck 
with making them work but in doing so we see 5ghz capable devices sitting on 
2.4 which isn’t so good. The extra SSID was fired up as a test and worked, so 
got stuck there but we  still don’t classify it under our production since it’s 
poorly named.

For end of year I’m proposing the removal of “UofA 5ghz” and making “UofA” a 
5ghz only SSID with eduroam covering both 5 and 2.4. Our users get the same 
service on eduroam anyway as they would on our branded SSID(ip connectivity 
wise).

A few years back I posted a discussion about this where we were considering 
something similar but having a 2.4ghz only network as UofA-legacy or the 5ghz 
network as UofA-Premium etc. since the current “UofA 5ghz” is technical and 
users don’t know what it means.  We never got to a point where we were fully 
happy with the plan but in general we preferred the idea that if your 2.4ghz 
only you go on something called legacy to help drive the idea that they would 
ideally not use such a device.


--
Jason Cook
Technology Services
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Casey Feskens
Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 4:58 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been trying 
to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of wireless 
performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4 networks vs. 
5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their devices could not see 
the 5GHz SSID.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller 
<hf0...@uah.edu<mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>> wrote:
Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and walk 
out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<j...@scrippscollege.edu<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:
I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example, 
while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s 
likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas that 
devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for “in 
flight” devices.

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" <jeff.oli...@uleth.ca<mailto:jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>>
Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 and 
gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?


Cheers,
Jeff

---

Jeffrey L. Oliver
Manager, Network and Telecommunications
Information Technology Services
The University of Lethbridge
4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4

Tel: 403.329.5162<tel:(403)%20329-5162>
Mob: 403.315.4461<tel:(403)%20315-4461>

URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca<mailto:jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>
Web:http://www.uleth.ca/information-technology/

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Director of Infrastructure Services
Willamette Integrated Technology Services
Willamette University, Salem, OR
Phone:  (503) 370-6950
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Casey Feskens

We are currently using a 5GHz only SSID (as well as 2.4) and have been
trying to encourage students to use it. We recently conducted a survey of
wireless performance and asked questions about why people were using 2.4
networks vs. 5GHz. A surprising number of students replied that their
devices could not see the 5GHz SSID.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Hunter Fuller  wrote:

> Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and
> walk out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler <
> j...@scrippscollege.edu> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For
>> example, while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential
>> room, it’s likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and
>> other areas that devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still
>> important for “in flight” devices.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" > EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" 
>> *Reply-To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" > EDUCAUSE.EDU>
>> *Date: *Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
>> *To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" > EDUCAUSE.EDU>
>> *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your
>> 2.4 and gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey L. Oliver
>>
>> Manager, Network and Telecommunications
>>
>> Information Technology Services
>>
>> The University of Lethbridge
>>
>> 4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel: 403.329.5162 <(403)%20329-5162>
>>
>> Mob: 403.315.4461 <(403)%20315-4461>
>>
>>
>>
>> URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca
>>
>> Web:http://www.uleth.ca/information-technology/
>>
>>
>>
>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
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>>
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> discuss.
>
>


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Director of Infrastructure Services
Willamette Integrated Technology Services
Willamette University, Salem, OR
Phone:  (503) 370-6950
-

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Hunter Fuller

Similarly, we haven't looked at it. You can walk into Best Buy today and
walk out with a brand new laptop with no 5GHz wireless.

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeffrey D. Sessler 
wrote:

> I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example,
> while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s
> likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas
> that devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for
> “in flight” devices.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> *From: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" <
> jeff.oli...@uleth.ca>
> *Reply-To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Date: *Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
> *To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5
>
>
>
> Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4
> and gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Jeffrey L. Oliver
>
> Manager, Network and Telecommunications
>
> Information Technology Services
>
> The University of Lethbridge
>
> 4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4
>
>
>
> Tel: 403.329.5162 <(403)%20329-5162>
>
> Mob: 403.315.4461 <(403)%20315-4461>
>
>
>
> URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca
>
> Web:http://www.uleth.ca/information-technology/
>
>
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler

I don’t think there is a way to get away from 2.4 yet in EDU. For example, 
while most would install high-density 5GHz in every residential room, it’s 
likely cost-prohibitive to accomplish the same in hallways and other areas that 
devices transit but don’t linger. As such, 2.4 is still important for “in 
flight” devices.

Jeff

From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"  
on behalf of "Oliver, Jeff" 
Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 

Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM
To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4 and 
gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?


Cheers,
Jeff

---

Jeffrey L. Oliver
Manager, Network and Telecommunications
Information Technology Services
The University of Lethbridge
4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4

Tel: 403.329.5162
Mob: 403.315.4461

URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca
Web:http://www.uleth.ca/information-technology/

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4 vs 5

2017-03-06 Thread Coehoorn, Joel

We still have a lot of devices (especially low-end smartphones) that only
have 2.4 radios.



Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *

*Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
assistance.*


The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God, family, and society

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Oliver, Jeff  wrote:

> Folks, just wondering how many PSI’s have successfully turned off your 2.4
> and gone 5GHz only? And how much blowback?
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Jeffrey L. Oliver
>
> Manager, Network and Telecommunications
>
> Information Technology Services
>
> The University of Lethbridge
>
> 4401 University Drive, Lethbridge, Alberta, T1K 3M4
>
>
>
> Tel: 403.329.5162 <(403)%20329-5162>
>
> Mob: 403.315.4461 <(403)%20315-4461>
>
>
>
> URI:   jeff.oli...@uleth.ca
>
> Web:http://www.uleth.ca/information-technology/
>
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