Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-27 Thread Ken LeCompte
Philippe,

I am confused by your statement about Apple dropping support for EAP-TTLS. Do 
you have something official stating this? IOS9 clearly supports EAP-TTLS-PAP 
and my understanding is that MacOS 10.11 is essentially the same as iOS9 is 
terms of 802.1x.

Thank you.

Ken

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On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Philippe Hanset  wrote:

> Just to clarify, CAT (cat.eduroam.org) is mostly designed for PEAP and 
> EAP-TTLS. 
> You could use it for EAP-TLS but it doesn’t tie to a PKI (that part of the 
> code is missing)
> 
> Support for EAP-TTLS for Windows XP-VISTA-7 was interrupted this year after 
> SecureW2 asked CAT to stop using its code.
> 
> But new version of MacOS do not support EAP-TTLS, so it seems that EAP-TTLS 
> might really disappear anyway!
> (if you want to support PEAP in a non Microsoft environment, you can read 
> this: https://www.eduroam.us/node/97)
> 
> Philippe
> 
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Philippe Hanset  wrote:
>> 
>> Or if you only care about 802.1X automatic configuration (and not about all 
>> the features of device management that come with Cloudpath and others)
>> you can use the free configuration tool from cat.eduroam.org (definitely not 
>> as good as Cloudpath, but good enough for many of us ..and it does support 
>> your local SSID in addition to eduroam)
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> Philippe Hanset
>> www.eduroam.us
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Best case scenario: Ruckus' awesome Dynamic PSK feature gets rolled into 
>>> Cloudpath for the rest of us and the pricing comes down in an effort to use 
>>> CloudPath to eventually sway customers towards Ruckus hardware. Worst case: 
>>> Cloudpath effectively goes Ruckus-only, leaving us to move to either 
>>> Secure-W2, Cisco ISE, or Aruba ClearPass.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joel Coehoorn
>>> Director of Information Technology
>>> 402.363.5603
>>> jcoeho...@york.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered 
>>> education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and 
>>> society
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Frank Sweetser  wrote:
>>> Well that's... interesting.
>>> 
>>> Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These 
>>> acquisitions of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely 
>>> seem to well for customers of the independent service if you're not also a 
>>> customer of the large one.
>>> 
>>> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu|  For every problem, there is a solution 
>>> that
>>> Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
>>> Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken
>>> 
>>> On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
>>> FYI.
>>> *Lee Badman*| Network Architect
>>> Information Technology Services
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>>> Syracuse, New York 13244
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-27 Thread Turner, Ryan H
If that is the case, there are going to be a lot of unhappy people!!

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:57 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

Philippe,

I am confused by your statement about Apple dropping support for EAP-TTLS. Do 
you have something official stating this? IOS9 clearly supports EAP-TTLS-PAP 
and my understanding is that MacOS 10.11 is essentially the same as iOS9 is 
terms of 802.1x.

Thank you.

Ken

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Telecommunications Division
Office of Information Technology
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
Office ~ (848) 445-4823

On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Philippe Hanset 
<phan...@anyroam.net<mailto:phan...@anyroam.net>> wrote:


Just to clarify, CAT (cat.eduroam.org<http://cat.eduroam.org/>) is mostly 
designed for PEAP and EAP-TTLS.
You could use it for EAP-TLS but it doesn't tie to a PKI (that part of the code 
is missing)

Support for EAP-TTLS for Windows XP-VISTA-7 was interrupted this year after 
SecureW2 asked CAT to stop using its code.

But new version of MacOS do not support EAP-TTLS, so it seems that EAP-TTLS 
might really disappear anyway!
(if you want to support PEAP in a non Microsoft environment, you can read this: 
https://www.eduroam.us/node/97)

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us<http://www.eduroam.us/>


On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Philippe Hanset 
<phan...@anyroam.net<mailto:phan...@anyroam.net>> wrote:

Or if you only care about 802.1X automatic configuration (and not about all the 
features of device management that come with Cloudpath and others)
you can use the free configuration tool from 
cat.eduroam.org<http://cat.eduroam.org/> (definitely not as good as Cloudpath, 
but good enough for many of us ..and it does support your local SSID in 
addition to eduroam)

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us<http://www.eduroam.us/>

On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Coehoorn, Joel 
<jcoeho...@york.edu<mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu>> wrote:

Best case scenario: Ruckus' awesome Dynamic PSK feature gets rolled into 
Cloudpath for the rest of us and the pricing comes down in an effort to use 
CloudPath to eventually sway customers towards Ruckus hardware. Worst case: 
Cloudpath effectively goes Ruckus-only, leaving us to move to either Secure-W2, 
Cisco ISE, or Aruba ClearPass.


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jcoeho...@york.edu<mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu>




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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Frank Sweetser 
<f...@wpi.edu<mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
Well that's... interesting.

Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These acquisitions 
of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely seem to well for 
customers of the independent service if you're not also a customer of the large 
one.

Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu<http://wpi.edu/>|  For every problem, there is 
a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken

On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
FYI.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-23 Thread Steven D. Veron
Sure, just email me directly or give me a call. 



Steven D Veron 
Senior Network Analyst 
Lamar University 
Office- 409-880-2386 
Cell- 409-351-5961 
steven.ve...@lamar.edu 




- Original Message -

From: "Dan Loop" <dan.l...@chemeketa.edu> 
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:10:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath 


Steve 


I work at Chemeketa Community College in Salem, Or and we are a Ruckus Wireless 
shop as well and looking at Cloudpath. We would like a little insite into the 
do's and dont's of the setup. 


Thanks 


On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Steven D. Veron < sve...@lamar.edu > wrote: 




We just finished a Ruckus/Cloupath deployment a few months ago, and this move 
makes sense. Interesting considering I had heard Kevin turned down Cisco and 
Juniper. 


If anyone has questions about how it went you can email me directly, 



Steven D Veron 
Senior Network Analyst 
Lamar University 
Office- 409-880-2386 
Cell- 409-351-5961 
steven.ve...@lamar.edu 






From: "Benjamin John Higgins" < bjhigg...@wpi.edu > 
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:54:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath 



Just for completeness sake – Ruckus posted the press release this morning: 
http://www.ruckuswireless.com/press/releases/20151021-ruckus-wireless-acquires-cloudpath-networks-simplify-wi-fi-onboarding
 

In speaking to our CloudPath rep, we heard “We will remain Cloudpath and our 
product will remain XpressConnect. I will confirm if we have a specific roadmap 
and get back to you information as soon as I get it.” This gives me hope that 
in the short term through the school year, the product will say with its 
current feature set. 

Beyond that … not sure yet. 

--ben 

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Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 
Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 






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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath 


FYI. 



Lee Badman | Network Architect 

Information Technology Services 
206 Machinery Hall 
120 Smith Drive 
Syracuse, New York 13244 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Steven D. Veron
We just finished a Ruckus/Cloupath deployment a few months ago, and this move 
makes sense. Interesting considering I had heard Kevin turned down Cisco and 
Juniper. 


If anyone has questions about how it went you can email me directly, 



Steven D Veron 
Senior Network Analyst 
Lamar University 
Office- 409-880-2386 
Cell- 409-351-5961 
steven.ve...@lamar.edu 




- Original Message -

From: "Benjamin John Higgins" <bjhigg...@wpi.edu> 
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:54:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath 



Just for completeness sake – Ruckus posted the press release this morning: 
http://www.ruckuswireless.com/press/releases/20151021-ruckus-wireless-acquires-cloudpath-networks-simplify-wi-fi-onboarding
 

In speaking to our CloudPath rep, we heard “We will remain Cloudpath and our 
product will remain XpressConnect. I will confirm if we have a specific roadmap 
and get back to you information as soon as I get it.” This gives me hope that 
in the short term through the school year, the product will say with its 
current feature set. 

Beyond that … not sure yet. 

--ben 

-- 
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Network Engineer | Office 508.831.4860 
Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Cell 508.713.1739 






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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath 


FYI. 



Lee Badman | Network Architect 

Information Technology Services 
206 Machinery Hall 
120 Smith Drive 
Syracuse, New York 13244 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Frank Sweetser

Well that's... interesting.

Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These acquisitions 
of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely seem to well 
for customers of the independent service if you're not also a customer of the 
large one.


Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu|  For every problem, there is a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken

On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:

FYI.
*Lee Badman*| Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
Or if you only care about 802.1X automatic configuration (and not about all the 
features of device management that come with Cloudpath and others)
you can use the free configuration tool from cat.eduroam.org (definitely not as 
good as Cloudpath, but good enough for many of us ..and it does support your 
local SSID in addition to eduroam)

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:
> 
> Best case scenario: Ruckus' awesome Dynamic PSK feature gets rolled into 
> Cloudpath for the rest of us and the pricing comes down in an effort to use 
> CloudPath to eventually sway customers towards Ruckus hardware. Worst case: 
> Cloudpath effectively goes Ruckus-only, leaving us to move to either 
> Secure-W2, Cisco ISE, or Aruba ClearPass.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603
> jcoeho...@york.edu 
> 
> 
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered 
> education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and 
> society
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Frank Sweetser  > wrote:
> Well that's... interesting.
> 
> Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These 
> acquisitions of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely 
> seem to well for customers of the independent service if you're not also a 
> customer of the large one.
> 
> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu |  For every problem, there 
> is a solution that
> Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
> Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken
> 
> On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
> FYI.
> *Lee Badman*| Network Architect
> Information Technology Services
> 206 Machinery Hall
> 120 Smith Drive
> Syracuse, New York 13244
> *t* 315.443.3003  *f* 315.443.4325  *e* 
> _lhbadman@syr.edu_
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread David R. Morton
Ryan, 

I would also be interested in hearing how your SecureW2 deployment is going. 

We have their solution, but are underutilizing it at the moment as it is only 
used for eduroam configuration/onboarding (though we are in a transition with 
most users directed to the eduroam CAT). The underutilization is completely on 
our side and we’ve received great support from the SecureW2 team so far. 

David

David Morton
Director, Mobile Communications
Service Owner: Wi-Fi, Mobile & HuskyTV
University of Washington
dmor...@u.washington.edu

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Why did you switch to SecureW2?
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:56:18PM +, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
>> Wow.  That came out of nowhere.   We officially switched to SecureW2 for on 
>> boarding at the beginning of the year from Cloudpath.  Any news about 
>> management changes?  Is Kevin still running the ship?
>> 
>> Ryan Turner
>> Senior Network Engineer, ITS
>> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>> +1 919 445 0113 Office
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Lee H Badman 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> FYI.
>> 
>> Lee Badman | Network Architect
>> Information Technology Services
>> 206 Machinery Hall
>> 120 Smith Drive
>> Syracuse, New York 13244
>> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e 
>> lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu
>> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
>> syr.edu
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Turner, Ryan H
My email is r...@unc.edu.  Send me an email.  I might setup a call for those 
interested.  

Ryan Turner
Senior Network Engineer, ITS
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
+1 919 445 0113 Office

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:19 AM, David R. Morton  wrote:
> 
> Ryan, 
> 
> I would also be interested in hearing how your SecureW2 deployment is going. 
> 
> We have their solution, but are underutilizing it at the moment as it is only 
> used for eduroam configuration/onboarding (though we are in a transition with 
> most users directed to the eduroam CAT). The underutilization is completely 
> on our side and we’ve received great support from the SecureW2 team so far. 
> 
> David
> 
> David Morton
> Director, Mobile Communications
> Service Owner: Wi-Fi, Mobile & HuskyTV
> University of Washington
> dmor...@u.washington.edu
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
>> 
>> Why did you switch to SecureW2?
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:56:18PM +, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
>>> Wow.  That came out of nowhere.   We officially switched to SecureW2 for on 
>>> boarding at the beginning of the year from Cloudpath.  Any news about 
>>> management changes?  Is Kevin still running the ship?
>>> 
>>> Ryan Turner
>>> Senior Network Engineer, ITS
>>> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>>> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>>> +1 919 445 0113 Office
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Lee H Badman 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> FYI.
>>> 
>>> Lee Badman | Network Architect
>>> Information Technology Services
>>> 206 Machinery Hall
>>> 120 Smith Drive
>>> Syracuse, New York 13244
>>> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e 
>>> lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu
>>> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
>>> syr.edu
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
Why did you switch to SecureW2?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:56:18PM +, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
> Wow.  That came out of nowhere.   We officially switched to SecureW2 for on 
> boarding at the beginning of the year from Cloudpath.  Any news about 
> management changes?  Is Kevin still running the ship?
> 
> Ryan Turner
> Senior Network Engineer, ITS
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
> +1 919 445 0113 Office
> 
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Lee H Badman 
> > wrote:
> 
> FYI.
> 
> Lee Badman | Network Architect
> Information Technology Services
> 206 Machinery Hall
> 120 Smith Drive
> Syracuse, New York 13244
> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu 
> w its.syr.edu
> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
Best case scenario: Ruckus' awesome Dynamic PSK feature gets rolled into
Cloudpath for the rest of us and the pricing comes down in an effort to use
CloudPath to eventually sway customers towards Ruckus hardware. Worst case:
Cloudpath effectively goes Ruckus-only, leaving us to move to either
Secure-W2, Cisco ISE, or Aruba ClearPass.



Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *

The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God, family, and society

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Frank Sweetser  wrote:

> Well that's... interesting.
>
> Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These
> acquisitions of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely
> seem to well for customers of the independent service if you're not also a
> customer of the large one.
>
> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu|  For every problem, there is a solution
> that
> Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
> Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken
>
> On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
>
>> FYI.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Turner, Ryan H
A lot of reasons.  We are an EAP TLS shop.  We were with the enrollment 
platform almost from the beginning (I think Kevin said we were inside if the 
first 10) and used it for a few hundred thousand onboards during 2 years.  I 
would love to share all the reasons to the list, but I would prefer not to 
discuss those decisions in an open forum.  Please send me an email directly. 

But we didn't switch lightly.  A lot of testing abs verification before we 
decided to switch.  

Ryan Turner
Senior Network Engineer, ITS
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
+1 919 445 0113 Office

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 02:56:18PM +, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
>> Wow.  That came out of nowhere.   We officially switched to SecureW2 for on 
>> boarding at the beginning of the year from Cloudpath.  Any news about 
>> management changes?  Is Kevin still running the ship?
>> 
>> Ryan Turner
>> Senior Network Engineer, ITS
>> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>> +1 919 445 0113 Office
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Lee H Badman 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> FYI.
>> 
>> Lee Badman | Network Architect
>> Information Technology Services
>> 206 Machinery Hall
>> 120 Smith Drive
>> Syracuse, New York 13244
>> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e 
>> lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Curtis K. Larsen
I have to be honest - not really excited to see this.  We've been using 
Cloudpath Networks for 8 years including the Enrollment System with EAP-TLS for 
a year - and I've been super pleased with it.  I hope they intend to support 
non-Ruckus vendors for a long time and keep Kevin Koster running things.

Curtis Larsen
University Of Utah IT/CIS
Sr. Network Engineer
Office 801-587-1313


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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

Best case scenario: Ruckus' awesome Dynamic PSK feature gets rolled into 
Cloudpath for the rest of us and the pricing comes down in an effort to use 
CloudPath to eventually sway customers towards Ruckus hardware. Worst case: 
Cloudpath effectively goes Ruckus-only, leaving us to move to either Secure-W2, 
Cisco ISE, or Aruba ClearPass.




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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Frank Sweetser 
<f...@wpi.edu<mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
Well that's... interesting.

Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These acquisitions 
of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely seem to well for 
customers of the independent service if you're not also a customer of the large 
one.

Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu<http://wpi.edu>|  For every problem, there is 
a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken

On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
FYI.
*Lee Badman*| Network Architect
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus has purchased Cloudpath

2015-10-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
Just to clarify, CAT (cat.eduroam.org) is mostly designed for PEAP and 
EAP-TTLS. 
You could use it for EAP-TLS but it doesn’t tie to a PKI (that part of the code 
is missing)

Support for EAP-TTLS for Windows XP-VISTA-7 was interrupted this year after 
SecureW2 asked CAT to stop using its code.

But new version of MacOS do not support EAP-TTLS, so it seems that EAP-TTLS 
might really disappear anyway!
(if you want to support PEAP in a non Microsoft environment, you can read this: 
https://www.eduroam.us/node/97)

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us


> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Philippe Hanset  wrote:
> 
> Or if you only care about 802.1X automatic configuration (and not about all 
> the features of device management that come with Cloudpath and others)
> you can use the free configuration tool from cat.eduroam.org 
>  (definitely not as good as Cloudpath, but good 
> enough for many of us ..and it does support your local SSID in addition to 
> eduroam)
> 
> Philippe
> 
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Coehoorn, Joel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Best case scenario: Ruckus' awesome Dynamic PSK feature gets rolled into 
>> Cloudpath for the rest of us and the pricing comes down in an effort to use 
>> CloudPath to eventually sway customers towards Ruckus hardware. Worst case: 
>> Cloudpath effectively goes Ruckus-only, leaving us to move to either 
>> Secure-W2, Cisco ISE, or Aruba ClearPass.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joel Coehoorn
>> Director of Information Technology
>> 402.363.5603
>> jcoeho...@york.edu 
>> 
>> 
>> The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered 
>> education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and 
>> society
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Frank Sweetser > > wrote:
>> Well that's... interesting.
>> 
>> Anyone heard any rumors about what their roadmap might be?  These 
>> acquisitions of an independent service by a larger portfolio company rarely 
>> seem to well for customers of the independent service if you're not also a 
>> customer of the large one.
>> 
>> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu |  For every problem, 
>> there is a solution that
>> Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
>> Worcester Polytechnic Institute |   - HL Mencken
>> 
>> On 10/22/2015 10:43 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
>> FYI.
>> *Lee Badman*| Network Architect
>> Information Technology Services
>> 206 Machinery Hall
>> 120 Smith Drive
>> Syracuse, New York 13244
>> *t* 315.443.3003  *f* 315.443.4325  *e* 
>> _lhbad...@syr.edu _
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