Re: [WiX-users] Problem with nested install of SQL Express 2005 inmy installer

2007-01-08 Thread RuneC


Ok, thanks. But how does a bootstrapper handle this? How can it launch
multiple installations (prerequisites + regular), and not require multiple
elevations? Can someone recommend some articles I should read?

Rune C


As Stefan pointed out, it doesn't fit the Windows Vista UAC model. It 
can't be done silently because it requires elevation. If launched with a 
UI, it will require two elevation prompts: one for SQL and one for your 
MSI.

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[WiX-users] Solution for StartMenuFolder x StartupFolder ?

2007-01-08 Thread André Pönitz

Hi all.

There seems to be 'automatic' properties

 StartupFolder (here locally: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All 
Users\Startmenü\Programme\Autostart)

and

 StartMenuFolder (here locally: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All 
Users\Startmenü)

However, I'd like to access the level inbetween, i.e.

 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmenü\Programme

Simply using [StartupFolder]\Programme does not cut it as the 'Programme'
part is language-dependend.

Is there a method to get what I want (short of running a CA of my own)?


Andre'

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Re: [WiX-users] Solution for StartMenuFolder x StartupFolder ?

2007-01-08 Thread Tony Hoyle
André Pönitz wrote:
 
 Simply using [StartupFolder]\Programme does not cut it as the 'Programme'
 part is language-dependend.

ProgramMenuFolder

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372057.aspx

Tony

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Re: [WiX-users] Solution for StartMenuFolder x StartupFolder ?

2007-01-08 Thread André Pönitz
 
Tony Hoyle wrote:
  Simply using [StartupFolder]\Programme does not cut it as the 'Programme'
  part is language-dependend.
 
 ProgramMenuFolder

But with ALLUSERS=0 [ProgramMenuFolder] is in the user's hierarchy
whereas StartupFolder and StartmenuFolder are under 'All Users'

I basically want access to 'All Users\Program Files'
[if that make sense...]

Andre'

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Re: [WiX-users] Solution for StartMenuFolder x StartupFolder ?

2007-01-08 Thread Tony Hoyle
André Pönitz wrote:
  
 Tony Hoyle wrote:
 Simply using [StartupFolder]\Programme does not cut it as the 'Programme'
 part is language-dependend.
 ProgramMenuFolder
 
 But with ALLUSERS=0 [ProgramMenuFolder] is in the user's hierarchy
 whereas StartupFolder and StartmenuFolder are under 'All Users'
 
 I basically want access to 'All Users\Program Files'
 [if that make sense...]
 

If ALLUSERS=0 then you're installing for the local user only - modifying 
the global program files menu in this case would be an error.

Tony

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[WiX-users] Shouldn’t WiX be Production/Stable instead of Beta?

2007-01-08 Thread Mike Green
WiX is currently shown with a Development Status of 'Beta' on the WiX Project 
Summary page. That sends the wrong message to existing and potential users of 
WiX. Surely WiX (V2) can now be regarded as 'Production/Stable' can’t it?

I am also interested in the planned timetable for WiX V3 taking over as the 
stable version. Is it close to achieving that or is it many months or even 
years away?

Regards

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[WiX-users] Release notes document for 2.0.4820.0 is empty

2007-01-08 Thread Mike Green
The release notes document for 2.0.4820.0 is empty. Is that an oversight or did 
nothing change in that release?

Regards

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Re: [WiX-users] Shortcuts and ICE

2007-01-08 Thread André Pönitz
Johan Appelgren wrote:
 So the answer to the initial question is that windows installer is
 broken, and I should just ignore the ICE57 error?

I think 'yes, and not necessarily'. Have a look at hack I just
posted in the 'Solution for StartMenuFolder  x  StartupFolder ?'
thread today.

 I'm trying to use unadvertised shortcuts and haven't been able to find
 out the recommended way to create them.

So far I believe there is no clean solution. In fact, I am 
more than happy to have found something seemingly 'working'...

Andre'

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Re: [WiX-users] Shouldn't WiX be Production/Stable instead of Beta?

2007-01-08 Thread Rob Mensching
1.  The Beta status has been a struggle for me for a long while.  The core 
toolset (candle, light, lit) is very stable.  Production quality easily.  The 
CustomActions on the other had are not quite there.  Since they are currently 
grouped together (something I've considered many times changing) the status is 
best left Beta.  That said, I am close to finishing off all WiX v2 bugs: 
http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2006/12/19/Drive-to-a-WiX-v2-toolset-final-release.aspx.
  I have four left (one of the five fixed locally, I think).unkunk2.  WiX v2 
will be the stable version until WiX v3 reaches a Production quality release. 
 That WiX v3 Production quality release is realistically more than a year.  
However, if you're willing to deal with just-less-than-Production-quality, I 
think WiX v3 will probably be safe in 6 - 9 months.  Right now, there is a lot 
of churn, and the bugs being fixed in WiX v2 are not in WiX v3 yet... so I 
would not suggest shipping a product built w
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Re: [WiX-users] Configuring virtual directory ASP.NET version

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Janulewicz
I found this on the net somewhere, but I can't find it again. Sorry I
can't give proper credit, but I certainly did not come up with this on
my own.

 

You have to do some 'special stuff' to point the website to the correct
version of aspnet_isapi.dll.

 

Under my iis:WebApplication, I have a chunk that looks like this:

 

!-- This makes it an ASP.NET 2.0 application --

iis:WebApplicationExtension CheckPath=no
Script=yes

 
Executable=[FRAMEWORKROOT]v2.0.50727\aspnet_isapi.dll

  Verbs=GET,HEAD,POST /

  /iis:WebApplication

 

In my properties section, I have this:

 

Property Id=FRAMEWORKROOT 

  RegistrySearch Id=Framework20Root Type=raw Root=HKLM 

  Key='Software\Microsoft\.NETFramework' Name=InstallRoot /

/Property

 

And that's about all there is to it. Also be sure you put this app in a
separate pool if you have ASP.NET 1.1 and 2.0 apps running on the same
IIS.

 

 

-Matt

 

 

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From: Don Tasanasanta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:41 AM
To: Dana Gutride; WiX-users
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Configuring virtual directory ASP.NET version

 

Has anyone been successful at setting the ASP.NET version on a virtual
directory? 

 

I've tried the WebServiceExtension solution but it doesn't correctly set
the version to 2.0

 

I have also tried using iisext.vbs but that doesn't set the version on
my virtual directories either. 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana
Gutride
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:57 AM
To: WiX-users
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Configuring virtual directory ASP.NET version

 

WiX has built-in functionality to handle this.  You might want to look
at the link below to see how to do this without calling an external
executable.  The RootVer registry key is invaluable for determining if
ASP.NET has been correctly registered with IIS.  For instance, if the
user installs .NET before installing IIS, this registry key will not
exist.

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=15724558.

Dana

On 6/29/06, Joannic Laborde  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

First, you can check which ASP.NET version is used to create the
application:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ASP.NET\RootVer

 

Then if it is not the right version, you need to manually re-register
your application with the right ASP.NET version, using this tool:

[WindowsFolder]Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\aspnet_regiis.exe

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Goatly
Sent: June 29, 2006 4:37 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Configuring virtual directory ASP.NET version

 

Hi,

 

I'm trying to install a website, but the virtual directory that gets
created defaults to ASP.NET 1.1 and I need to configure it to use
ASP.NET 2.0 - is there any way to do this using WiX? (I'm currently
using WiX 2.0)

 

Many thanks in advance,

Mike


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Re: [WiX-users] Shouldn’t WiX be Production/Stable instead of Beta?

2007-01-08 Thread Francis Kam

Rob actually wrote a post on his blog about this in December:

http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2006/12/19/Drive-to-a-WiX-v2-toolset-final-release.aspx

-Francis



On 1/8/07, Mike Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


WiX is currently shown with a Development Status of 'Beta' on the WiX
Project Summary page. That sends the wrong message to existing and potential
users of WiX. Surely WiX (V2) can now be regarded as 'Production/Stable'
can't it?

I am also interested in the planned timetable for WiX V3 taking over as
the stable version. Is it close to achieving that or is it many months or
even years away?

Regards

Mike


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Re: [WiX-users] Shouldn't WiX be Production/Stable i nstead of Beta?

2007-01-08 Thread Mike Green
Thanks. I’ve read that blog entry now and Rob’s reply.

 

It all sounds perfectly reasonable. There should come a point though where the 
psychological value of declaring the product stable
exceeds the benefit of teasing out the final wrinkles. I often wish that Gmail 
/ Google Mail would take that idea on board and break
out of the apparent perpetual beta phase.

 

There is obviously a balance to be struck when cutting over from one major 
version to the next. Do it too often and stability
suffers; or is expensive to maintain. Do it too infrequently and new features 
are denied to production users for too long. I’d
suggest somewhere between 18 months and 2 years is a reasonable periodic cycle 
to aim for between each major release.
 
Regards

Mike
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From: Francis Kam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 January 2007 21:34
To: Mike Green
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Shouldn’t WiX be Production/Stable instead of Beta?


Rob actually wrote a post on his blog about this in December:

http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2006/12/19/Drive-to-a-WiX-v2-toolset-final-release.aspx
http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2006/12/19/Drive-to-a-WiX-v2-toolset-final-release.aspx
 

-Francis
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Re: [WiX-users] Shouldn’t WiX be Production/Stable instead of Beta?

2007-01-08 Thread Scott Palmer

Soon as I saw that Wix V2 required me to enter short file names I
immediately tossed it in the garbage (keeping backwards 8.3 filenames in the
OS was one of Microsoft's stupidest ideas) and moved to Wix V3.   The only
issue I've had with Wix V3 is that it didn't work properly for installing
device drivers so I had to roll my own custom action for that.

It would be great if there were easier ways to do UI*, but as far as
comparing to V2 goes it's a slight improvement for that too.


*since I'm whining about the UI...

Strangely enough Wix supports localized UIs, yet it requires you to layout
all the UI components using absolute positioning.  I guess all languages
take the same amount of space ;-) ?

I don't know if it is possible, but I would love to see some sort of simple
auto-layout for UI components and a better syntax for describing flow
between dialogs with the back/next buttons when conditions require you to
insert or skip specific panels.  For example, it should be possible to have
Wix automatically handle the logic for the back button.

Ok, enough complaining... overall Wix V3 has been very usable.  I plan to
release a product built from it within a couple months.

Scott

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I am also interested in the planned timetable for WiX V3 taking over as
the stable version. Is it close to achieving that or is it many months or
even years away?

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Re: [WiX-users] Solution for StartMenuFolder x StartupFolder ?

2007-01-08 Thread Scott Palmer

I do the same horrible hack.  I've never tested on Vista though.. but I
don't care about any logo-program as long as my install works.

There needs to be an easy way to turn of the errors that are reported for
this case, since this same issue has come up a couple times already.


On 1/8/07, André Pönitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


...

The problem is that the ICEs think that ProgramMenuDir is a per-user
setting (which it is for ALLUSERS=0, but not in the scenario my users
will see) and so it requires a registry value in HKCU as keypath.
So I just give them one, even if this is never used.

Does anybody see anything wrong (apart from being a horrible hack...)
with this approach?

Andre'

PS: Anyone out there who's already build a Vista-Logo-Program
'compatible' Wix v3 installer with start menu entries?


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Re: [WiX-users] Default installation directory from registry?

2007-01-08 Thread Steve Bennett
Thanks, that worked. Thought I'd already tried that, but obviously not.

 

Steve

 

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From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MSI turns Directory entries into properties, then uses those property values
to determine where files end up. So use Directory/@Id to provide the default
location, then Property with the same @Id and RegistrySearch to overwrite
it. If the value isn't found, MSI doesn't change the existing property
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Re: [WiX-users] Shouldn’t WiX be Production/Stable instead of Beta?

2007-01-08 Thread Bob Arnson
Scott Palmer wrote:
 Strangely enough Wix supports localized UIs, yet it requires you to 
 layout all the UI components using absolute positioning.  I guess all 
 languages take the same amount of space ;-) ?

To be anally-retentive precise, it's MSI that requires it, not WiX. And 
anything WiX could do is probably wasted -- beyond some very simple 
build-time operations, WiX can't extend MSI's UI support without 
rewriting it. It makes more sense for the WiX dev team to focus on the 
chainer and external UI handler that would let you plug in your own UI 
code into a declarative framework.

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