Re: [WiX-users] Advertised feature install starting

2007-11-06 Thread John Hall
I've got some machines that after a minor upgrade,
unprivileged users unexpectedly get MSI launching a dialog saying that
the feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is
unavailable. Administrators do not see the message. The installer was
run as Administrator. I assume it is because some features have been
installed as Advertised rather than Local. In my installer however, I
have marked all my features with AllowAdvertise=no, so 


It's probably an automatic repair. Check the System event log to
see which component MSI thinks is broken.


Bob,
 
Thanks for the pointer.
 
It's an HKCU registry key that would have been created for the user who
installed the application, but obviously not the user who is running. Is
this the default behaviour for a key in HKCU even if the feature is not
advertised?
 
In this case, it doesn't matter if the settings are not available for
the current user, and I would prefer MSI just to ignore these keys.
 
Also, is this the expected behaviour? I thought that a copy of the MSI
was stored away in c:\Windows\Installer, so why is the system not able
to use that one rather than looking for the original .msi file that the
bootstrapper dropped into the temp directory.
 
Regards,
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Re: [WiX-users] Upgrading

2007-11-06 Thread Craig0ss

hmmm 

What about a component search, if it finds the product it fills the
keypath??

Ive read this but am unsure on how to execute this my self

thanks



Bob Arnson-6 wrote:
 
 Craig0ss wrote:
 I need my MSI to check for an existing install of the software ie. 5.2.1,
 now it does this fine, however i also need it to check for the existing
 directory and then pass that information to a variable that the installer
 then sets the installer to install to. Basically i need the upgrade to
 install to the directory that the previous installation resides in?
   
 
 Write the directory to the registry so the upgraded version can find it 
 using RegistrySearch.
 
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[WiX-users] Custom actions per component?

2007-11-06 Thread Dror Cohen
Hi,

I wanted to know if it is possible to make a custom action run only if a 
certain component is installed and how to do it.
Also, is there a way to put custom actions in a fragment?

Thanks,
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Re: [WiX-users] Custom actions as executables

2007-11-06 Thread Richard

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dror Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

 I want my MSI to run in a custom action an executable that I want to add in=
 to the package but not stay on the user's machine. This executable might al=
 so be dependent on files (DLLs) that will be installed on the machine. What=
  is the easiest way to achieve that?

Use a type 2 custom action.
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Re: [WiX-users] Custom actions per component?

2007-11-06 Thread Richard

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dror Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

 I wanted to know if it is possible to make a custom action run only if a ce=
 rtain component is installed and how to do it.

Use a condition that is true when the component is set to be
installed.
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[WiX-users] Just found SetupBld

2007-11-06 Thread conkerjoe

I have been having issues with getting a bootstrapper working for some time
now. i just recently found the program setupbld, and it looks like it might
solve my problems. Here is what i aim to achieve
the user runs setup.exe. it would detect and prerequisits and install them,
then launch the msi but passing the update parameters if it already exists.

curretly my setup.exe installs the prereqs but i have to do a major upgrade
everytime. which is causing us major amounts of work with hacking things to
make the update go smoothly. this isnt pleasent for us or the end user.
will setupbld let me do this. if not is there a known bootstrapper that can
achieve this for me.

Back to installshield if not :( not something i would relish
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[WiX-users] Subclassing WIX dialogs

2007-11-06 Thread Lewis G. Pringle, Jr.
Folks:

It appears the standard methodology for making changes in
dialogs is to copy the dialog into your own .wxs file, and anything that
referred to it (like a UI sequence) also has to be copied and modified.

 

Are there any plans (maybe in Wix v3?) to include an ability to
do some sort of limited 'dialog subclassing'? where perhaps you could just
add a control?

 

For example, maybe something like:

 

Dialog Id=MyDialog Width=370 Height=270 InheritFrom=OrigDialog
Control Id=CDKeyLabel Type=Text X=45 Y=147 Width=50
Height=10 TabSkip=no InsertAfter=SOMECONTROL
  TextCD amp;Key:/Text
/Control

/Dialog

 

 

Lewis.

 

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[WiX-users] Building a patch in Visual Studio

2007-11-06 Thread Schuett, Michael
Is it possible to build a patch inside VS2005? All I've been able to generate 
is a useless MSI.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [WiX-users] Uninstalling WinSxS in Vista

2007-11-06 Thread Geoff Finger
On Nov 5, 2007 9:33 PM, Bob Arnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Geoff Finger wrote:
  I've run into an issue with Vista where the side by side assemblies
  installed to WinSxS do not get removed when the uninstaller is run.
 

 Known issue and I'm not aware of a workaround. And yes it sucks.

Well good to know that it's still a current issue and not something
wrong on my end. Thanks!

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Re: [WiX-users] Building a patch in Visual Studio

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Marcu
Not possible using the Setup Deployment project. You can however build patches 
out of the MSI's it produces using wix v3's admin image patching features.

Generate an admin image of your baseline and upgrade msi's. Call torch with -ax 
and the msi's in the admin layouts. Then follow the wix patch building process 
from there.

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Is it possible to build a patch inside VS2005? All I've been able to generate 
is a useless MSI.

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[WiX-users] Chaining a redist package into an MSI

2007-11-06 Thread Karesz Kecskemeti
Hello,
 
My issue is that I try to build an MSI, and it has a third party redist package 
inside it. This redist package has to be installed as part of my MSI 
installation. I believe this can be done by creating a custom action to execute 
this package.
 
The problem is that this redist package is actually another MSI that was 
compiled into a .exe, and I have no idea what kind of problems this can bring 
up.
So, the questions are:
Is this a supported scenario?
Do I have to do something special or just create a simple custom action that 
runs the redist .exe?
Will there be any issues uninstalling my MSI (and will it uninstall the redist 
bits as well)?
 
Thanks in advance for your insight,
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Re: [WiX-users] Chaining a redist package into an MSI

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Wone
If you run it then it will probably unpack into a folder with a GUID for a
name. If you keep Windows Explorer open on C:\ you will see the new folder
appear as a child of the root. Generally these folders are removed again
when the setup exits cleanly so the key is to terminate with extreme
prejudice using Task Manager. Then you can rummage through the contents,
picking out MSIs and other goodies. This is how I extracted sqlncli.msi from
SQLEXPR.EXE so now I don't have to deploy all of SQL Express just to get SQL
Native Client support.

 

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To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Chaining a redist package into an MSI

 

Hello,
 
My issue is that I try to build an MSI, and it has a third party redist
package inside it. This redist package has to be installed as part of my MSI
installation. I believe this can be done by creating a custom action to
execute this package.
 
The problem is that this redist package is actually another MSI that was
compiled into a .exe, and I have no idea what kind of problems this can
bring up.
So, the questions are:
Is this a supported scenario?
Do I have to do something special or just create a simple custom action
that runs the redist .exe?
Will there be any issues uninstalling my MSI (and will it uninstall the
redist bits as well)?
 
Thanks in advance for your insight,

Karesz 
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Re: [WiX-users] install integrated MSHelp2 with WixVSExtensions.dll

2007-11-06 Thread Shannon Lewis
Steve

 

Not sure if you're still working on this, but I've recently been
struggling with the same issues in WiX v3, and have finally got the help
integration working.

 

On the LGHT0204 errors (sequencing  errors), I had to do the following

 

InstallExecuteSequence

  InstallFinalize Sequence=7800 /

/InstallExecuteSequence

 

As per
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=642714aid=1588180gro
up_id=105970 

 

Also referenced there is the Foreign Key issue.  WiX v3 currently has an
'explicit' foreign key between HelpPlugIn and HelpNamespace, whereas the
Merge Modules only assume a 'logical' foreign key.  Check the
differences between the resulting MSI and the Merge Modules in the
_Validation table entries for the HelpPlugIn table (Orca is probably the
easiest tool to use).

 

Interestingly, these ICE checks seem to be done on the MSI after it has
been created on disk, i.e. the FK errors don't actually stop the MSI
creation.  If you open the MSI with Orca and run the validation you'll
see the same issues appear.  If you use Orca to modify the entries in
the _Validation table, to match those of the Merge Modules, the errors
will no longer appear.

 

The ICE82 warnings referring to ProgramFilesFolder.364... will still
appear, but can apparently be ignored.  As can the ICE03 warnings
relating to string overflows.

 

I'm only new to both building MSIs and using Help2, so I'm far from an
authority on either, just wanted to pass on the little that I had
learned along the way.

 

Some other notes:

 

I have a WiX node that looks like  Wix
xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi;
xmlns:vs=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/VSExtension;

 

And the HelpFile node

vs:HelpFile Id=someHxSFile Name=nameAsPerHxtUrl /

 

As indicated, the Name attribute must match the Url attribute in the
HelpTOCNode of the HxT file, if not the Table of Contents does not
deploy properly (the help will correctly appear in the dexplore Index
tab though).  I got this wrong initially, novice mistake I'm assuming,
and it took me a LONG time to find what was wrong.  The MSDN help for
HxReg.exe eventually tipped me off to what I'd done wrong.

 

Then the HelpCollection node looks like 

vs:HelpCollection Id=someHxC Description=some
description Name=company.title.1033

vs:HelpFileRef Id=someHxSFile /

vs:PlugCollectionInto

  Attributes=someHxA 

  TableOfContents=someHxT 

  TargetCollection=MS_VSIPCC_v80

 
TargetTableOfContents=FL_vsipcc_hxt_86880.3643236F_FC70_11D3_A5
36_0090278A1BB8/

  /vs:HelpCollection

 

HelpCollection Name is using format as per recommendation in
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb164959(VS.80).aspx

The Attributes attribute is optional, you may not need it depending on
how you've authored the help content.

 

I'm assuming than an MST file, in conjunction with MSITRAN.EXE, could be
used to correct the ICE03 errors as a post build step (to correct the
_Validation table), but I haven't tried yet.
http://www.creativedocs.net/blog/archives/32-Patching-the-MSI-file-for-V
ista-compliance.html gave me the idea for this.

 

 

Whilst it would obviously be nice to get an Error and Warning free
compile done, it appears there is at least a workaround until the WiX
team can get to the issue.

 

Hope this helps

 

Regards

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[WiX-users] File Reference Syntax

2007-11-06 Thread Cryptonomicon

Once again I am struggling badly with wix. 

I have a file  

 File Id=File_ClientExe Name=StrawberryFields.exe
Source=$(var.ClientRoot)$(var.ClientExeName) Checksum=no ReadOnly=yes

that I want to use as the target of a verb

  ProgId Id=StrawberryFields.sbf Description=!(loc.SampleDescStr2)
  Extension Id=sbf ContentType=application/sbf
Verb Id='open' Command='Open' TargetFile='[!File_ClientExe]'
Argument='%1' /
  /Extension
/ProgId

What is wrong with my use of File_ClientExe? 

Error   25  Unresolved reference to symbol 'File:[#File_ClientExe]' in 
section
'Fragment:'.
D:\Home\Development\StrawberryFields\InstallationKit\StrawberryFieldsInstaller\Client.wxs
24  1   StrawberryFieldsInstaller


I have tried the usual sequence of '[!File_ClientExe]' '[#File_ClientExe]'
'[File_ClientExe]' '!File_ClientExe'

etc - which never works

Can someone please point me to the complete language syntax and scope rules


BTW in the documentation for Wix - it describes using Wix as a mind set
change - where your installer should be written in parallel with your
development.  I would say that the same goes for documentation.  

I am afraid that to date the last couple of weeks of using Wix has been the
most depressing and frustrating experience in a quarter of a century of
coding.  The years of effort that have gone into this thing which should be
a poster child is totally let down by inadequate documentation, lack of
examples etc. 

So as a word of advice - Stop all development now and work on the
documentation.  If all the words that have been typed into this forum had
been typed into a wiki the job would have been done long ago. As it is the
same people are repeating the same answers to the same questions to the
point that they cant be bothered providing answers that people can
understand.

Once you have an up to date and complete language definition and a full set
of examples - then by all means respond to queries with Its in the Wix 3
chm - but at the moment I've looked - and I cant find it - and if I can
find it I can't understand it.

Sorry about the venting.

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Re: [WiX-users] Advertised feature install starting

2007-11-06 Thread Bob Arnson

John Hall wrote:


It's an HKCU registry key that would have been created for the user 
who installed the application, but obviously not the user who is 
running. Is this the default behaviour for a key in HKCU even if the 
feature is not advertised?


Yes, for an advertised shortcut.

Also, is this the expected behaviour? I thought that a copy of the MSI 
was stored away in c:\Windows\Installer, so why is the system not able 
to use that one rather than looking for the original .msi file that 
the bootstrapper dropped into the temp directory.


It does but something's requiring source. You can set the MSI logging 
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Re: [WiX-users] Custom actions as executables

2007-11-06 Thread Bob Arnson

Dror Cohen wrote:


I want my MSI to run in a custom action an executable that I want to 
add into the package but not stay on the user's machine. This 
executable might also be dependent on files (DLLs) that will be 
installed on the machine. What is the easiest way to achieve that?




MSI doesn't have support for an embedded CA that relies on installed 
DLLs. Either live with the file staying behind or remove the dependencies.


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Re: [WiX-users] Chaining a redist package into an MSI

2007-11-06 Thread Bob Arnson

Karesz Kecskemeti wrote:
My issue is that I try to build an MSI, and it has a third party 
redist package inside it. This redist package has to be installed as 
part of my MSI installation. I believe this can be done by creating a 
custom action to execute this package.
 
The problem is that this redist package is actually another MSI that 
was compiled into a .exe, and I have no idea what kind of problems 
this can bring up.


MSI doesn't support installing multiple MSI packages in one transaction. 
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Re: [WiX-users] Upgrading

2007-11-06 Thread Bob Arnson
Craig0ss wrote:
 What about a component search, if it finds the product it fills the
 keypath??
   

Should work. I've never tried it.

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Re: [WiX-users] Subclassing WIX dialogs

2007-11-06 Thread Bob Arnson

Lewis G. Pringle, Jr. wrote:


Are there any plans (maybe in Wix v3?) to include an 
ability to do some sort of limited 'dialog subclassing'? where perhaps 
you could just add a control?




It's not supported now; it might be possible, similar to how WiX v3 
implements floating Publish elements that let you define control 
events outside the dialog. Feel free to file a feature request.



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[WiX-users] upgrade and 3 field version numbers

2007-11-06 Thread Nitin
Hi,

 

I ran in some issue with upgrades, and when I checked the logs, I found that
the version numbers were 4 fields ( 1.0.0.1 ). MSDN tells me that it will
ignore the 4th part, so I have changed my version to 1.0.1, which works.

 

The problem is I show my product version (in about box) based on my .net
assembly version, which has 4 fields, but for MSI, I use 3 fields, so
Add/remove shows 3 fields.

 

I would like to know why MSI doesn't support 4 field versions. Any best
practices for versioning?

 

Thanks,

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