Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
As per Rob's suggestion, here's a letter to the SQL team RE: the SQL Express installer. - Dear SQL Server Team: SQL Server 2005 Express Edition has become a platform that many developers have come to count on in building applications. It provides a flexible, redistributable database engine, suitable for the creation of database applications. One problem many developers face is in the deployment of their solutions. Currently, there is no way to seamlessly integrate the setup of SQL Server 2005 Express Edition into the setup of a developer's application. The developer is forced to either install silently, providing the user with no progress feedback during the installation; install with minimal UI, which displays a non-integrated progress meter for a suboptimal end user experience; or to force the user to install SQL Server 2005 Express Edition as a separate install prerequisite. None of these options are palatable for developers wishing to provide a smooth, integrated installation experience for their users. The .NET Framework redistributable had much the same problem until version 3.0. Beginning with the 3.0 version, the framework bootstrapper responds to an argument passed on the command line (the /progress switch) which allows the developer to register for progress messages transmitted back to his code via a named pipe. A whitepaper describing how developers can take advantage of their approach is available on the MSDN website (found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa663365.aspx at the time of this writing). Implementing a similar solution for the SQL Server Express Edition installer would go a long way toward helping developers who need to use the product, but would like to present their users with a custom setup UI. Looking toward the future, the WiX toolset is looking to add a custom bootstrapper in a future version. Without a progress reporting solution in place, consumers of that bootstrapper will not be able to seamlessly integrate SQL Server Express Edition into their setups. Please consider this a request to implement what should be a low-cost, low-risk feature into the SQL Server installer. Sincerely, Jim Evans, Numara Software -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:25 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. If you write it, I'll add my name. I'd even be happy to try to find the right people to send it to. smile/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Jim Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:16 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. RE: SQL Express installer progress: I only recently learned of the .NET Framework's installation progress solution, and am planning on using it. As near as I can tell, SQL Express does not provide a similar solution, so I guess we should start working on that letter. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:13 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. There is a feature planned to provide progress to parent processes of the bootstrapper. The .NET Framework does this already, we'll probably do the identical thing (presuming it is rich enough). I don't know if SQL Express does the same... if not, then the progress for that component will be dismal and we should all collectively send a letter to the team to ask them to implement a solution like the .NET Framework. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Jim Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:02 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. Bob Arnson wrote: It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. Fair enough. I'm at the point in my project where I was hoping that I didn't have to build my own bootstrapper. I guess I'll refactor when the bootstrap framework is available. What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. Communicating progress is really one of the things I struggle with. How do you communicate progress with wrapped package
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Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
In my opinion, the biggest current issue is the fact that you still have to have a bootstrapper to install MSI 4.5 before you can start your MSI, followed by a lack of desire to take on distributing MSI 4.5 for those of us deploying over the internet. The fact that almost no one knows about it is probably bigger, however. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:22 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. cut-big-blob-of-text/ I've not done much with MSI 4.5 and it's embedded chainer.nbsp;nbsp; Is there a larger platform issue to tackle in getting all of thenbsp; various ISV's ( including the hundreds of teams at MSFT )nbsp; playing in the 4.5 work? nbsp; Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2008/06/06/Proposed-adjustments-the-WiX-v2-and-WiX-v3-roadmap.aspx Based on the feedback left by those of you here and elsewhere, I've posted some proposed adjustments to our current roadmap. I am curious what people think about trimming the next releases of WiX v2 and WiX v3 to get done sooner. Feedback here or as comments on my blog is appreciated. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
Evans, Jim wrote: This is sorely disappointing to me personally. Quite frankly, I need the bootstrapper. I hate that I'll be waiting for WiX v4 to get it. It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. In an earlier email, Rob, you mentioned that your team had the design pretty well nailed down, though the code has a long way to go. Is there any chance that the community could get a peek at that design? What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
To provide a bit more detail on what Bob said, the biggest difference between the planned WiX bootstrapper and the other bootstrappers discussed here is to create something with built in layers so that you can use only the functionality that you want. Additionally, the hope is to make the binary very tiny (definitely 500K, and I personally want to come in 120K) with very few dependencies. No earth shattering patentable functionality just very tight C/C++ code. Also, Bob pointed out that this is the same struggle I had when we forked WiX v3 off of WiX v2. There was feature creep affecting the WiX v2 schedule so we just had to cut the new stuff free. Thus WiX v3 was born. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 09:08 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. Evans, Jim wrote: This is sorely disappointing to me personally. Quite frankly, I need the bootstrapper. I hate that I'll be waiting for WiX v4 to get it. It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. In an earlier email, Rob, you mentioned that your team had the design pretty well nailed down, though the code has a long way to go. Is there any chance that the community could get a peek at that design? What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
Bob Arnson wrote: It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. Fair enough. I'm at the point in my project where I was hoping that I didn't have to build my own bootstrapper. I guess I'll refactor when the bootstrap framework is available. What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. Communicating progress is really one of the things I struggle with. How do you communicate progress with wrapped package installations? In other words, if I wanted to bootstrap a prerequisite package that the manufacturer distributes only as an executable setup.exe (not a standalone MSI file)* to provide my user with a unified installation experience, how does your design propose to allow me to do that? *Examples of said packages are the .NET Framework installer and the SQL Server 2005 Express installer. Both are common prerequisites for applications, both are MSI-based installs, but do not provide standalone .MSI installers. Unifying the installation experience for applications that install these packages is difficult-to-impossible. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
There is a feature planned to provide progress to parent processes of the bootstrapper. The .NET Framework does this already, we'll probably do the identical thing (presuming it is rich enough). I don't know if SQL Express does the same... if not, then the progress for that component will be dismal and we should all collectively send a letter to the team to ask them to implement a solution like the .NET Framework. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Jim Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:02 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. Bob Arnson wrote: It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. Fair enough. I'm at the point in my project where I was hoping that I didn't have to build my own bootstrapper. I guess I'll refactor when the bootstrap framework is available. What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. Communicating progress is really one of the things I struggle with. How do you communicate progress with wrapped package installations? In other words, if I wanted to bootstrap a prerequisite package that the manufacturer distributes only as an executable setup.exe (not a standalone MSI file)* to provide my user with a unified installation experience, how does your design propose to allow me to do that? *Examples of said packages are the .NET Framework installer and the SQL Server 2005 Express installer. Both are common prerequisites for applications, both are MSI-based installs, but do not provide standalone .MSI installers. Unifying the installation experience for applications that install these packages is difficult-to-impossible. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
RE: SQL Express installer progress: I only recently learned of the .NET Framework's installation progress solution, and am planning on using it. As near as I can tell, SQL Express does not provide a similar solution, so I guess we should start working on that letter. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:13 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. There is a feature planned to provide progress to parent processes of the bootstrapper. The .NET Framework does this already, we'll probably do the identical thing (presuming it is rich enough). I don't know if SQL Express does the same... if not, then the progress for that component will be dismal and we should all collectively send a letter to the team to ask them to implement a solution like the .NET Framework. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Jim Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:02 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. Bob Arnson wrote: It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. Fair enough. I'm at the point in my project where I was hoping that I didn't have to build my own bootstrapper. I guess I'll refactor when the bootstrap framework is available. What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. Communicating progress is really one of the things I struggle with. How do you communicate progress with wrapped package installations? In other words, if I wanted to bootstrap a prerequisite package that the manufacturer distributes only as an executable setup.exe (not a standalone MSI file)* to provide my user with a unified installation experience, how does your design propose to allow me to do that? *Examples of said packages are the .NET Framework installer and the SQL Server 2005 Express installer. Both are common prerequisites for applications, both are MSI-based installs, but do not provide standalone .MSI installers. Unifying the installation experience for applications that install these packages is difficult-to-impossible. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
If you write it, I'll add my name. I'd even be happy to try to find the right people to send it to. smile/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Jim Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:16 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. RE: SQL Express installer progress: I only recently learned of the .NET Framework's installation progress solution, and am planning on using it. As near as I can tell, SQL Express does not provide a similar solution, so I guess we should start working on that letter. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:13 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. There is a feature planned to provide progress to parent processes of the bootstrapper. The .NET Framework does this already, we'll probably do the identical thing (presuming it is rich enough). I don't know if SQL Express does the same... if not, then the progress for that component will be dismal and we should all collectively send a letter to the team to ask them to implement a solution like the .NET Framework. grin/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Jim Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:02 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. Bob Arnson wrote: It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. Fair enough. I'm at the point in my project where I was hoping that I didn't have to build my own bootstrapper. I guess I'll refactor when the bootstrap framework is available. What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. Communicating progress is really one of the things I struggle with. How do you communicate progress with wrapped package installations? In other words, if I wanted to bootstrap a prerequisite package that the manufacturer distributes only as an executable setup.exe (not a standalone MSI file)* to provide my user with a unified installation experience, how does your design propose to allow me to do that? *Examples of said packages are the .NET Framework installer and the SQL Server 2005 Express installer. Both are common prerequisites for applications, both are MSI-based installs, but do not provide standalone .MSI installers. Unifying the installation experience for applications that install these packages is difficult-to-impossible. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
That all sounds fine to me personally, as long as I can start investing my time in refactoring all of our installers with WiX v4 (and its bootstrapper!) sometime around the time you would said it would be available. Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:56 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. To provide a bit more detail on what Bob said, the biggest difference between the planned WiX bootstrapper and the other bootstrappers discussed here is to create something with built in layers so that you can use only the functionality that you want. Additionally, the hope is to make the binary very tiny (definitely 500K, and I personally want to come in 120K) with very few dependencies. No earth shattering patentable functionality just very tight C/C++ code. Also, Bob pointed out that this is the same struggle I had when we forked WiX v3 off of WiX v2. There was feature creep affecting the WiX v2 schedule so we just had to cut the new stuff free. Thus WiX v3 was born. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 09:08 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap. Evans, Jim wrote: This is sorely disappointing to me personally. Quite frankly, I need the bootstrapper. I hate that I'll be waiting for WiX v4 to get it. It's unlikely to change the date when the bootstrapper becomes available. Working on it in the v4 branch gives us the flexibility to ship it in stages and not be forced to do a more limited release just to ship v3. Also note that there's nothing that ties the bootstrapper to a particular build of WiX; you can easily use v3 to build your setups and v4 for the bootstrapper. In an earlier email, Rob, you mentioned that your team had the design pretty well nailed down, though the code has a long way to go. Is there any chance that the community could get a peek at that design? What aspects of the design are you interested in? The biggest piece is all internal: e.g., how the worker thread handles installations and communicates progress with the UX thread. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Proposed adjustments the WiX v2 and WiX v3 roadmap.
I like the new plan, let's get it done! :D On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2008/06/06/Proposed-adjustments-the-WiX-v2-and-WiX-v3-roadmap.aspx Based on the feedback left by those of you here and elsewhere, I've posted some proposed adjustments to our current roadmap. I am curious what people think about trimming the next releases of WiX v2 and WiX v3 to get done sooner. Feedback here or as comments on my blog is appreciated. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
