Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-17 Thread Rob Mensching
I see that you already filed a bug. If there are any patching 
implications to re-sequencing actions we will have move this to WiX v4.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I can't think of any relationship between AppSearch and
 FindRelatedProducts so I would think it wouldn't matter on their order
 but I think it is important that they are before LaunchConditions.

 Just to explain why this is a problem to me, most of my installs are run
 silently and consequently the LaunchConditions won't trigger if a newer
 version of the application is install and you can end installing an
 older version as well as newer one. If anyone is interested I blogged
 about this
 http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/launchconditions-findrelated
 products.html.

 Should I raise a bug for this so it isn't lost?

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@wixtoolset.org]
 Sent: 14 February 2009 02:02
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

 The current sequence of actions came from the MSI sequence.msi except
 for AppSearch/LaunchConditions. We filed a doc bug with the Windows
 Installer team about those two and I think they agreed it is a better
 ordering (when will we sit it addressed, no idea).

 I suppose we could suggest the same for FindRelatedProducts (before or
 after AppSearch?). Have to verify it won't have any patch impact.

 Neil Sleightholm wrote:
   
 I can sort of see the point of that but that list doesn't even mention
 FindRelatedProducts. Putting FindRelatedProducts after
 
 LaunchConditions
   
 actually breaks installs if you run a downgrade silently.

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
 Sent: 13 February 2009 20:54
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts


 For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK suggests that
 LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx

 Personally I've always done it the other way around so I can use the
 results of AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at my day job,
 I've dumped LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my own pattern that
 uses additional data that isn't available until after costing.


 
 http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchcon
   
 ditions.html


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 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:


 
 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

   
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net

 
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
 I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle and
 related
 products properly it is necessary to schedule
 FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but wouldn't it
 make sense for
 this to be the default? I have looked at the VS generated
 MSIs and they
 are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions and most
 other MSIs I have checked do the same.

 Neil

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Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-17 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Yes no problem. I have done loads of searching for information on this
and can't find any good advice or recommendations!

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@wixtoolset.org] 
Sent: 18 February 2009 04:41
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

I see that you already filed a bug. If there are any patching 
implications to re-sequencing actions we will have move this to WiX v4.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I can't think of any relationship between AppSearch and
 FindRelatedProducts so I would think it wouldn't matter on their order
 but I think it is important that they are before LaunchConditions.

 Just to explain why this is a problem to me, most of my installs are
run
 silently and consequently the LaunchConditions won't trigger if a
newer
 version of the application is install and you can end installing an
 older version as well as newer one. If anyone is interested I blogged
 about this

http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/launchconditions-findrelated
 products.html.

 Should I raise a bug for this so it isn't lost?

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@wixtoolset.org]
 Sent: 14 February 2009 02:02
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

 The current sequence of actions came from the MSI sequence.msi except
 for AppSearch/LaunchConditions. We filed a doc bug with the Windows
 Installer team about those two and I think they agreed it is a better
 ordering (when will we sit it addressed, no idea).

 I suppose we could suggest the same for FindRelatedProducts (before or
 after AppSearch?). Have to verify it won't have any patch impact.

 Neil Sleightholm wrote:
   
 I can sort of see the point of that but that list doesn't even
mention
 FindRelatedProducts. Putting FindRelatedProducts after
 
 LaunchConditions
   
 actually breaks installs if you run a downgrade silently.

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
 Sent: 13 February 2009 20:54
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts


 For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK suggests that
 LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx

 Personally I've always done it the other way around so I can use the
 results of AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at my day job,
 I've dumped LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my own pattern that
 uses additional data that isn't available until after costing.


 

http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchcon
   
 ditions.html


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 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:


 
 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

   
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net

 
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
 I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle and
 related
 products properly it is necessary to schedule
 FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but wouldn't it
 make sense for
 this to be the default? I have looked at the VS generated
 MSIs and they
 are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions and most
 other MSIs I have checked do the same.

 Neil

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 X2 Systems Limited
 n...@x2systems.com




   


   
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Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-14 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I can't think of any relationship between AppSearch and
FindRelatedProducts so I would think it wouldn't matter on their order
but I think it is important that they are before LaunchConditions.

Just to explain why this is a problem to me, most of my installs are run
silently and consequently the LaunchConditions won't trigger if a newer
version of the application is install and you can end installing an
older version as well as newer one. If anyone is interested I blogged
about this
http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/launchconditions-findrelated
products.html. 

Should I raise a bug for this so it isn't lost?

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@wixtoolset.org] 
Sent: 14 February 2009 02:02
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

The current sequence of actions came from the MSI sequence.msi except 
for AppSearch/LaunchConditions. We filed a doc bug with the Windows 
Installer team about those two and I think they agreed it is a better 
ordering (when will we sit it addressed, no idea).

I suppose we could suggest the same for FindRelatedProducts (before or 
after AppSearch?). Have to verify it won't have any patch impact.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I can sort of see the point of that but that list doesn't even mention
 FindRelatedProducts. Putting FindRelatedProducts after
LaunchConditions
 actually breaks installs if you run a downgrade silently.

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
 Sent: 13 February 2009 20:54
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts


 For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK suggests that
 LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx

 Personally I've always done it the other way around so I can use the
 results of AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at my day job,
 I've dumped LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my own pattern that
 uses additional data that isn't available until after costing.


http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchcon
 ditions.html


 Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
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 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:

   
 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
 I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle and
 related
 products properly it is necessary to schedule
 FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but wouldn't it
 make sense for
 this to be the default? I have looked at the VS generated
 MSIs and they
 are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions and most
 other MSIs I have checked do the same.

 Neil

 Neil Sleightholm
 X2 Systems Limited
 n...@x2systems.com



 


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Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-13 Thread Christopher Painter

For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK suggests that 
LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx

Personally I've always done it the other way around so I can use the results of 
AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at my day job, I've dumped 
LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my own pattern that uses additional data 
that isn't available until after costing. 

http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchconditions.html


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--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:

 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
 I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle and
 related
 products properly it is necessary to schedule
 FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but wouldn't it
 make sense for
 this to be the default? I have looked at the VS generated
 MSIs and they
 are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions and most
 other MSIs I have checked do the same.
 
 Neil
 
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 n...@x2systems.com
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-13 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I can sort of see the point of that but that list doesn't even mention
FindRelatedProducts. Putting FindRelatedProducts after LaunchConditions
actually breaks installs if you run a downgrade silently.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] 
Sent: 13 February 2009 20:54
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts


For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK suggests that
LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx

Personally I've always done it the other way around so I can use the
results of AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at my day job,
I've dumped LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my own pattern that
uses additional data that isn't available until after costing. 

http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchcon
ditions.html


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--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:

 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
 I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle and
 related
 products properly it is necessary to schedule
 FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but wouldn't it
 make sense for
 this to be the default? I have looked at the VS generated
 MSIs and they
 are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions and most
 other MSIs I have checked do the same.
 
 Neil
 
 Neil Sleightholm
 X2 Systems Limited
 n...@x2systems.com
 
 


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Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-13 Thread Christopher Painter
I'm sorry, I meant to type AppSearch.   Of course, we also use 
FindRelatedProducts as part of our search patterns.  ( DetectOnly flag )

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--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:

 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: RE: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: chr...@deploymentengineering.com, General discussion for Windows 
 Installer XML toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 4:25 PM
 I can sort of see the point of that but that list
 doesn't even mention
 FindRelatedProducts. Putting FindRelatedProducts after
 LaunchConditions
 actually breaks installs if you run a downgrade silently.
 
 Neil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Painter
 [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] 
 Sent: 13 February 2009 20:54
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and
 FindRelatedProducts
 
 
 For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK
 suggests that
 LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:
 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx
 
 Personally I've always done it the other way around so
 I can use the
 results of AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at
 my day job,
 I've dumped LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my
 own pattern that
 uses additional data that isn't available until after
 costing. 
 
 http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchcon
 ditions.html
 
 
 Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
 Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread
 that deserves
 attention? E-Mail Me
 
 
 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm
 n...@x2systems.com wrote:
 
  From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
  Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and
 FindRelatedProducts
  To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML
 toolset.
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
  I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle
 and
  related
  products properly it is necessary to schedule
  FindRelatedProducts before
  LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but
 wouldn't it
  make sense for
  this to be the default? I have looked at the VS
 generated
  MSIs and they
  are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
  LaunchConditions and most
  other MSIs I have checked do the same.
  
  Neil
  
  Neil Sleightholm
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  n...@x2systems.com
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts

2009-02-13 Thread Rob Mensching
The current sequence of actions came from the MSI sequence.msi except 
for AppSearch/LaunchConditions. We filed a doc bug with the Windows 
Installer team about those two and I think they agreed it is a better 
ordering (when will we sit it addressed, no idea).

I suppose we could suggest the same for FindRelatedProducts (before or 
after AppSearch?). Have to verify it won't have any patch impact.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I can sort of see the point of that but that list doesn't even mention
 FindRelatedProducts. Putting FindRelatedProducts after LaunchConditions
 actually breaks installs if you run a downgrade silently.

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
 Sent: 13 February 2009 20:54
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts


 For some reason that I don't understand,  the MSI SDK suggests that
 LaunchConditions be before AppSearch:

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372038(VS.85).aspx

 Personally I've always done it the other way around so I can use the
 results of AppSearch in my LaunchConditions.  In fact, at my day job,
 I've dumped LaunchConditions entirely and rolloed my own pattern that
 uses additional data that isn't available until after costing.

 http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/07/short-comings-of-launchcon
 ditions.html


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 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com wrote:

   
 From: Neil Sleightholm n...@x2systems.com
 Subject: [WiX-users] LaunchConditions and FindRelatedProducts
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 
 wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:42 PM
 I have noticed that to get launch conditions to handle and
 related
 products properly it is necessary to schedule
 FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions. This is not a problem but wouldn't it
 make sense for
 this to be the default? I have looked at the VS generated
 MSIs and they
 are scheduled with FindRelatedProducts before
 LaunchConditions and most
 other MSIs I have checked do the same.

 Neil

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 n...@x2systems.com



 
 
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 -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation
 -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD
 http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA
-OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise
-Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation
-Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD
http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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