Re: [WSG] Thumbnail Image overlapping container DIV - Help Please

[Bert Doorn]

G'day
I have a problem with a site that I am working on, in that I have a
thumbnail image, and some text related to that image contained within
a DIV. If there is not much text, the thumbnail jumps out of its
container DIV. This can be seen here:
Typical case of floats not sitting inside their container. 
Simplest way to fix it is to add this rule to your CSS:

.TeaserContainer:after {
   clear:right;
   display:block;
   height:0;
   content: "";
}
See http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html for 
more info.

Regards
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http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
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[WSG] Thumbnail Image overlapping container DIV - Help Please

[Matt]

Hi WSG,

I have a problem with a site that I am working on, in that I have a
thumbnail image, and some text related to that image contained within
a DIV. If there is not much text, the thumbnail jumps out of its
container DIV. This can be seen here:

http://220.233.11.63:8080/
If you look about a quarter of the way down, there is an article
entitles "French Enlist Rugby Police?" (don't worry its dummy data!) -
you can see the effect there.

The style sheet can be viewed here:
http://220.233.11.63:8080/common/MainStyle.css

The style applied to the image is .TeaserThumbnail, which is as follows:

.TeaserThumbnail
{
float: right;
border: 1px solid #33;
margin: 0px 0px 4px 4px;
}

The text and the teaser Thumbnail are bound by the class TeaserContainer:

.TeaserContainer{
margin: 0px;
border-top-width: 1px;
border-top-style: dashed;
border-top-color: #66;
padding-top: 10px;
padding-right: 0px;
padding-bottom: 10px;
padding-left: 0px;
}

and here is the HTML:


French Enlist Rugby Police?
Road to France, Monday, 24
January 2005

In a strange move, the french Rugby Association has Donec ac tellus. 


I did try putting a div underneath the text and image with clear:both,
this did fix the problem (the image and text remained within their
container) but it created a new issue, the teaser section jumped down
all the way below below the left and right columns because of the
clear:both (hope that makes sense!).

I am very new to coding in standards using XHTML/CSS, so I am a bit of
a novice, so for the sake of this thread, please ignore the fact that
i might have heavy CSS (its much better than my old nested table tag
soup).

Cheers,

Matt
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Re: [WSG] List Indenting

[Thierry Koblentz]

Paul wrote:
> Just did, on the UL class as well as the li class, no luck

Hi Paul,
The problem lies in your bluebox container. *Remove* the left declaration
and use "margin-left" instead, that should fix it.

Regards,
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Re: ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Lea de Groot]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:25:41 +1000, Lea de Groot wrote:
> ALRIGHT!! ENOUGH!!

And I've just had it pointed out that I used unacceptable language in 
my last post!
My abject apologies - it was completely unintentional.

warmly,
Lea
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ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Lea de Groot]

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:07:15 +1100, Chris Stratford wrote:
> Sorry just another point.

ALRIGHT!! ENOUGH!!
This thread has clearly been closed TWICE now.
(Yes, in case you were wondering, I AM YELLING!)

Any more posts in this thread without a damn good reason[1] will see 
some public finger pointing and unsubscriptions.
The use of standards for spamming the search engines is officially 
off-topic.

warmly,
Lea
[1] You don't have a good enough reason. Don't try it.
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Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Chris Stratford]

Sorry just another point.
There is a MUCH BETTER way to spamdex without effecting anyone here.
I haven't used it before, but I have thought about it a lot.
You can simply add your spam div, when the user_agent is a googlebot, 
msnbot, yahoobot etc...
If you dont know the user agents for the bots simply check out this list.
http://www.psychedelix.com/agents.html

its massive I know!
just go for the major ones.
THEN a little check if the useragent is a bot.
and BOOM.

xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx

- My 2.35 cents!
Ted Drake wrote:
The recent discussion of css and seo had me wondering.
I have convinced the big wigs that although search engine rankings are very 
important, and they are with our very competitive keyword, we need to maintain 
accessibility. I have kept our alt tags pure, our h1 tags are using an image 
replacement technique, but still are not filled with spam.  We use no 
 spam or doorway pages.
However, I have been thinking, h could we spam an h4 tag and put a 
class="spam", clever huh?  Then move the text off screen in the main style 
sheet, display none in the print style sheet... normal, although unethical stuff so far.  
But what about the screen reader. It certainly would be unfair for them to hear their 
screen reader emphasize spam words and because of that I am against the idea.
However, we have that media="aural" descriptor.  Could I set up a new aural css with 
.spam {display:none;}?

For those covering your ears and eyes screaming N! I know it is a bad 
thing to spam your keywords. But if we need to do it to be competitive, would 
this at least protect those that are innocent, the people who need to use 
screenreaders?
Ted
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Re: [WSG] IE6 and my sidebar

[Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st]

Hi Kim

The problems lies in the #content statement in layout.css
If you change margin-left: 30px TO margin: 0 200px 0 30px; & get rid of the
width: 420px; then it'll be more flexible.

Cheers

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> From: Kim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:37:40 +0100
> To: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" 
> Subject: [WSG] IE6 and my sidebar
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've made this site http://republicana.dk/ and I have a problem with IE.
> When the text is set to "larger" or "largest" the sidebar falls apart.
> When using "largest" the content drops and looks really bad. I works
> perfectly in FF 1 and Opera 7.5X.
> 
> I've been looking at this for too long. Any help really appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
> Kim
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[WSG] IE6 and my sidebar

[Kim Kruse]

Hi,
I've made this site http://republicana.dk/ and I have a problem with IE. 
When the text is set to "larger" or "largest" the sidebar falls apart. 
When using "largest" the content drops and looks really bad. I works 
perfectly in FF 1 and Opera 7.5X.

I've been looking at this for too long. Any help really appreciated.
Thank you
Kim
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Re: [WSG] Gap between content and nav on events page in Firefox, looks fine in IE6

[Leslie Riggs]

What gives?  I have this small two-page site up for testing right now:
 http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/index.html
The index page is fine but the events page shows a gap between the nav and
the content area.  This is in windows, FF1.0.  IE6 shows both pages just
fine. 

The CSS is here:
 http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css
Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too.  I probably have been deep into this
so long I can't see the problem..  Any suggestions will be deeply
appreciated.
Leslie Riggs
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Haven't seen a reply so I'll contribute this: you are using two different
images for the logo. On the home page it's logo.gif and on events it is
logo_wiscard.jpg. One is transparent, the other is not. Could that be the
difference?
drew
 

I was testing two different looks for the logo with the client; I just 
uploaded the transparent one that the client chose.  I don't see any 
change in Firefox 1.0; the gap is still there.

Can anyone help, please?
Many thanks in advance.
Leslie Riggs
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RE: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

[Trusz, Andrew]

 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoeySent: 
  Friday, February 04, 2005 12:53 PMTo: 
  wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical 
  Stretching Layout?
  Hi 
  Tom,Thanks for that solution, but unfortunately it doesnt work, 
  because i get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page, in both 
  Firefox and IE. Does anyone else have any solutions for 
  this?ThanksJosefTom Livingston wrote: 
  
This worked for me: "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> 
   Untitled 
Document  

#main{width:100%; padding:0 50px 0 50px; margin:0;} 
#left{width:45%; 
background-color:#FF; padding:0; margin:0; float:left;} 

#right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0 0 0 
45%;} 
   
      
   ==
 
Remove the 45% margin #right and it will work 
fine. 
 
drew  
   

RE: [WSG] List Indenting

[Paul]

Just did, on the UL class as well as the li class, no luck

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Subject: RE: [WSG] List Indenting


Have you tried text-indent: 0?

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Subject: RE: [WSG] List Indenting



> Thanks Ron, It is an unordered list but your fix didn't do it, just 
> lost my bullets on the margin. I'll keep digging.

My bad, I didn't understand what you were wanting. Try setting a
negative left margin on the bodylinklist class:

.bodylinklist  {
margin-left : -18px;
}

The above lined up reasonably well on FF1.0 on the PC. I don't have a
mac to test on though.

Regards,
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RE: [WSG] List Indenting

[Paul]

Thanks Vicki I will take a look at those margins but the problem I am
currently after is only happening when I view on a MAC, the links in the
body, everything after the 1st link indents 20-30 px to the
rightvery frustrating.

Cheers
Paul

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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:15 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] List Indenting


If the problem you're referring to is the space to the left of your
menu...

On your #mainnavlinks div, set the left position and the left margin to
0. It's not the list that's causing that indentation.

(Watch out for the margins on that div - you have specified margin *and*
margin-left - whichever is specified last will be used.  You might want
to merge these.)

Vicki.  :-)


Paul wrote:
> Thanks Ron, It is an unordered list but your fix didn't do it, just 
> lost my bullets on the margin. I'll keep digging.


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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

[Joey]

Hi Tom,

Thanks for that solution, but unfortunately it doesnt work, because i
get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page, in both Firefox
and IE. Does anyone else have any solutions for this?

Thanks

Josef

Tom Livingston wrote:
This
worked for me:
  
  

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
  

  

  

  
Untitled Document
  

  

#main{width:100%; padding:0 50px 0 50px; margin:0;}
  

#left{width:45%; background-color:#FF; padding:0; margin:0;
float:left;}
  

#right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0 0 0
45%;}
  


  

  
  

  
  

  
 
  
 
  

  

  

  
  
  
On Feb 4, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Tom Livingston wrote:
  
  
  hmm. Then left and right won't really be 50%
each. More like 50% minus 100px. Maybe play with %s on those 2. Seems
like it won't be pixel-perfect. Seems like you would need wiggle room.


HTH... a little maybe?? :-P

  
  

  
Tom Livingston
  
Senior Multimedia Artist
  
Media Logic
  
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RE: [WSG] List Indenting

[Iain Gardiner]

Have you tried text-indent: 0?

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Subject: RE: [WSG] List Indenting



> Thanks Ron, It is an unordered list but your fix didn't do
> it, just lost
> my bullets on the margin. I'll keep digging.

My bad, I didn't understand what you were wanting. Try setting a negative
left margin on the bodylinklist class:

.bodylinklist  {
margin-left : -18px;
}

The above lined up reasonably well on FF1.0 on the PC. I don't have a mac to
test on though.

Regards,
Ron
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RE: [WSG] List Indenting

[Pringle, Ron]

> Thanks Ron, It is an unordered list but your fix didn't do 
> it, just lost
> my bullets on the margin. I'll keep digging.

My bad, I didn't understand what you were wanting. Try setting a negative
left margin on the bodylinklist class:

.bodylinklist  {
margin-left : -18px;
}

The above lined up reasonably well on FF1.0 on the PC. I don't have a mac to
test on though.

Regards,
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RE: [WSG] List Indenting

[Paul]

Thanks Ron, It is an unordered list but your fix didn't do it, just lost
my bullets on the margin. I'll keep digging.

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Subject: RE: [WSG] List Indenting



I have tried a number of sites that show how to make lists so they won't
indent yet my list keeps indenting on MACs, does anyone know a
definitive solution ?

For your reference the page I am playing with is,
http://www.speakupnow.ca/wu/meetingrooms1.php


Cheers
Paul   

Paul-

Assuming an Unordered list, try the following:

ul {
 padding: 0;
 margin: 0;
 list-style: none;
}

Regards,
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RE: [WSG] List Indenting

[Pringle, Ron]

I have tried a number of sites that show how to make lists so they won't
indent yet my list keeps indenting on MACs, does anyone know a definitive
solution ?

For your reference the page I am playing with is,
http://www.speakupnow.ca/wu/meetingrooms1.php


Cheers
Paul   

Paul-

Assuming an Unordered list, try the following:

ul {
 padding: 0;
 margin: 0;
 list-style: none;
}

Regards,
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[WSG] List Indenting

[Paul]

Title: Message



I have tried a 
number of sites that show how to make lists so they won't indent yet my list 
keeps indenting on MACs, does anyone know a definitive solution 
?
 
For your reference 
the page I am playing with is, http://www.speakupnow.ca/wu/meetingrooms1.php
 
 
Cheers
Paul

Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

[Tom Livingston]

This worked for me:

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>



Untitled Document


#main{width:100%; padding:0 50px 0 50px; margin:0;}

#left{width:45%; background-color:#FF; padding:0; margin:0; 
float:left;}

#right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0 0 0 
45%;}






 
 



On Feb 4, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Tom Livingston wrote:
hmm. Then left and right won't really be 50% each. More like 50% minus 
100px. Maybe play with %s on those 2. Seems like it won't be 
pixel-perfect. Seems like you would need wiggle room.

HTH... a little maybe?? :-P

Tom Livingston
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Media Logic
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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

[Tom Livingston]

Maybe:
 #main {
    width:100%;
     padding:0 50px 0 50px;
 }
hmm. Then left and right won't really be 50% each. More like 50% minus  
100px. Maybe play with %s on those 2. Seems like it won't be  
pixel-perfect. Seems like you would need wiggle room.

HTH... a little maybe?? :-P

On Feb 4, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Joey wrote:
Hi everyone,
 I wondered if anyone knew of some code for a simple 2 column layout,  
imagine:

 50% Left Column
 50% Right Column
 And when you stretch the browser the 2 columns will stretch too, but  
always both stay 50% of the browsers width. I have tried setting up  
something like this:


 
 
 
 #main {
     margin-left:50px;
     margin-right:50px;
 }
 #left {
     width:50%;
     float:left;
 }
 #right {
     width:50%;
     float:left;
 }
 But that only works in firefox, and i need this layout to be al all  
browser thing. Im sure its simple to do, but i cant seem to get it to  
work in IE.

 Thanks guys!
 Josef
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[WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

[Joey]

Hi everyone,

I wondered if anyone knew of some code for a simple 2 column layout,
imagine:

50% Left Column
50% Right Column

And when you stretch the browser the 2 columns will stretch too, but
always both stay 50% of the browsers width. I have tried setting up
something like this:







#main {
    margin-left:50px;
    margin-right:50px;
}

#left {
    width:50%;
    float:left;
}

#right {
    width:50%;
    float:left;
}


But that only works in firefox, and i need this layout to be al all
browser thing. Im sure its simple to do, but i cant seem to get it to
work in IE.

Thanks guys!

Josef

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RE: [WSG] Gap between content and nav on events page in Firefox, looks fine in IE6

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Behalf Of Leslie Riggs
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:41 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Gap between content and nav on events page in Firefox, looks
fine in IE6

What gives?  I have this small two-page site up for testing right now:

  http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/index.html

The index page is fine but the events page shows a gap between the nav and
the content area.  This is in windows, FF1.0.  IE6 shows both pages just
fine. 

The CSS is here:

  http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css

Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too.  I probably have been deep into this
so long I can't see the problem..  Any suggestions will be deeply
appreciated.

Leslie Riggs
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Haven't seen a reply so I'll contribute this: you are using two different
images for the logo. On the home page it's logo.gif and on events it is
logo_wiscard.jpg. One is transparent, the other is not. Could that be the
difference?


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ADMIN - Thread Closed: Re: [WSG] Irony

[Lea de Groot]

And we'll have none of that either!
Don't make me get cross now!
;)

Lea
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Re: [WSG] Irony

[Tom Livingston]

My apologies. I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to be on this list, 
being an American and all. Now where's that unsubscribe link.


On Feb 4, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Bruce wrote:
it was only the Americans who weren't supposed to get irony

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[WSG] Irony

[Bruce]

Andy Budd wrote:
And there was me thinking it was only the Americans who weren't supposed 
to get irony. Oh dear.


Gosh! I always thought that "irony" was something the wife got when 
doing a lot of laundry...
My apologies.

Bruce
bkdesign
Canada
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[WSG] Line spacing in MAC

[Paul]

Title: Message



Page: http://www.speakupnow.ca/wu/index.php
 
Problem, why is the 
line spacing erratic in MAC, I have line-height set to auto
 
Much thanks for a 
quick response.
 
Paul

Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Lea de Groot]

Guys (in a very inclusive fashion), the thread is still closed.
Now, imagine a big red 'closed' stamp coming down across it.

warmly,
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Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Bruce]

It was said:
I've an idea. Quite a few people run personal sites that allow people
to leave comments. You could create a script that automatically leaves
comments on their site along with a link. That way you'd inherit some
of their Google juice.
Another method would be to send lots of emails to random people. If you
send enough you are bound to find somebody interested in your products.
I mean, if you need to be competitive you should really explore all the
options.
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I thought I was joining a Webstandards list. As a developer working 
with weblogs, the major problem is comments being abused. It is a very 
serious issue which should be against the law. Seriously. People using 
comments are being abused by spammer scum which ruins their online 
experience to a large degree.
I don't care if this is off topic, or if I am deleted from this list. 
Seeing this kind of stuff encouraging comment spam deeply offends me. I 
would like to see spammers jailed.

Bruce Prochnau
www.bkdesign.ca
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ADMIN Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Lea de Groot]

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:04:40 -0800, Rick Faaberg wrote:
> This list is way out of control and I'm going to leave unless somebody
> retakes control. I do care about this list when it's under control -
> otherwise, bye bye.

'How can i stay within Web Standards while spamming the search engines' 
is off the on-topic page, IMHO.
I think we have reached the point of no return with this thread.

Good people, please consider it Closed.

warmly,
Lea
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Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Rick Faaberg]

On 2/4/05 2:01 AM "csslist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out:

> Another method would be to send lots of emails to random people
> 
> YEAH!! spam them to death lol
> 

This list is way out of control and I'm going to leave unless somebody
retakes control. I do care about this list when it's under control -
otherwise, bye bye.

Thanks

Rick Faaberg

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Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[csslist]

 Another method would be to send lots of emails to random people  YEAH!! spam them to death lol From: Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:49 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!Ted Drake wrote:> But if we need to do it to be competitive, would this at least protect > those that are innocent, the people who need to use screenreaders?I've an idea. Quite a few people run personal sites that allow people to leave comments. You could create a script that automatically leaves comments on their site along with a link. That way you'd inherit some of their Google juice.Another method would be to send lots of emails to random people. If you send enough you are bound to find somebody interested in your products.I mean, if you need to be competitive you should really explore all the options.:-)Andy Buddhttp://www.message.uk.com/**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**

RE: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

[Ricci Angela]

Terrence

All you need to do is to give an id to the form field and define its 
width on the CSS. It will work for all browers.



CSS: #ffield {width: 100px;}

Cheers!
Ge RICCI

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field in Firefox?


Styling file input is inconsistent cross browser and platform here 
is a work around:

http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html

Terrence Wood.

Irina Ahrens wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
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Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!

[Andy Budd]

Ted Drake wrote:
But if we need to do it to be competitive, would this at least protect 
those that are innocent, the people who need to use screenreaders?
I've an idea. Quite a few people run personal sites that allow people 
to leave comments. You could create a script that automatically leaves 
comments on their site along with a link. That way you'd inherit some 
of their Google juice.

Another method would be to send lots of emails to random people. If you 
send enough you are bound to find somebody interested in your products.

I mean, if you need to be competitive you should really explore all the 
options.

:-)
Andy Budd
http://www.message.uk.com/
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Re: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

[Terrence Wood]

Styling file input is inconsistent cross browser and platform here 
is a work around:

http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html
Terrence Wood.
Irina Ahrens wrote:
Hello,
Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
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[WSG] Converting Table to Div tutorial?

[Robin Lauryssen-Mitchell]

Is there some sort of tutorial available, preferably on-line, for converting HTML tables to div's?  If you know of one please let me know where it is.
 
Thanks
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Spam: RE: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

[Nick Cowie]

Irina wrote:
>Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

>Style like this produces funny looking input field (see file attached)

Never had any problems with form elements or input fields with Firefox, other 
than legend.

Most of what I use, I accquired from Cameron Adams via:
http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/


Nick



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[WSG] Web app guidance/site comment

[Brendan Smith]

Greetings all,
 
I'm currently working on a web app that I have created in as much of a web 
standards karma giving way as I can muster.
 
If I could get some feed back on this little number from the crowd out there I 
would be most greatful. General tips and pointers are what I'm after.
 
If you look closely enough it might be blatantly obvious who this project is 
for. Ok, if you're from Sydney Australia and drive a car/have a license that is.
 
https://monitor.hpa.com.au/rta/  
 
This is in no way a live product, and for the most part are just a bunch of 
static HTML files. Expect no magic within! Or live database for that matter.
 
I have managed to keep the majority of pages valid in both HTML and CSS. (When 
I typed that I felt I should get a badge or something?)
 
The only quirk I have with it is how some tables will wrap/drop below the menu 
on IE in tight areas (narrow your browser on the home page). Is this to be 
expected?
 
Thanks in advance for your time...
 
Brendan
 
 
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