[WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Yes, I know I should use relative font sizes, but for this particular case I require a fixed font size. I want the title of a button to appear in front of a background image that cannot be resized. I haven't used fixed fonts in a long time and realised for the first time today that Firefox seems to ignore fixed font sizes. Well, it is clever enough to resize the font if the users asks for it - but in this particular case I cannot allow it. Is there any way to overcome Firefox' accessibility and fix the font-size? Or do I have to go and use images instead? In which case I would have to use Javascript for the Rollover, which really goes too far! Thanks heaps for the feedback! Andreas. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Andreas If you mean can you stop text resizing in Firefox even though the user types CTRL+ or CTRL- , than the short answer is No. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web standards contractor? You need my services. Recent projects for Glassonion, Freshweb, Cogentis, Ceneka ... http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://bookcrossing.com/referral/neerav Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Is there any way to overcome Firefox' accessibility and fix the font-size? Thanks heaps for the feedback! Andreas. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
I guess that's fair enough. Might have to revert to images for this one. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Neerav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 9 May 2005 4:28 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox? Andreas If you mean can you stop text resizing in Firefox even though the user types CTRL+ or CTRL- , than the short answer is No. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web standards contractor? You need my services. Recent projects for Glassonion, Freshweb, Cogentis, Ceneka ... http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://bookcrossing.com/referral/neerav Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Is there any way to overcome Firefox' accessibility and fix the font-size? Thanks heaps for the feedback! Andreas. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Hi The user can override your font settings on any browser, as they should. For instance, I stop people making text smaller than 12px (because of my eyesight), which makes those 1px font size workarounds for image replacement look quite funny. Cheers James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Yeah, I knew they could overwrite my settings with a customised stylesheet, but I didn't realise that just CTRL+ would overwrite stylesheet settings on Firefox. Well, good to know! -Original Message- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 9 May 2005 4:44 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox? Hi The user can override your font settings on any browser, as they should. For instance, I stop people making text smaller than 12px (because of my eyesight), which makes those 1px font size workarounds for image replacement look quite funny. Cheers James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
On 9 May 2005, at 3:11 pm, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: I haven't used fixed fonts in a long time and realised for the first time today that Firefox seems to ignore fixed font sizes. Well, it is clever enough to resize the font if the users asks for it - but in this particular case I cannot allow it. And Safari, Opera, Camino, OmniWeb will all allow the user to resize the text, no matter what. You'll have to use an image, bearing in mind that Opera can resize that as well, and there are some extensions to do it in Firefox. Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] OFF-List -Form Validation error
Hi Kay, thank you for the URL links. Sorry for the late thank you note - I was under pressure meeting a deadline. [p/s. The reason I write you offlist is because I don't want WSG moderator post another 'no more discussion on this topic' reminder :) ] Are they your work? Both are very nice. May I ask what shopping cart script or software you use for these two sites? Regards, tee From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:53:16 +0800 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Form Validation error On 5/5/05, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, have anybody done the e-commerce site that is fully xhtml validated? This one is valid: http://www.australianopalsrus.com.au This one still has a few minor issues that are being fixed: http://www.elizabethsbookshop.com.au -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] OFF-List -Form Validation error
On 9 May 2005, at 6:07 PM, tee wrote: [p/s. The reason I write you offlist is because I don't want WSG moderator post another 'no more discussion on this topic' reminder :) ] Duh. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Anomaly
Quoting David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If that's what you mean, adding this
at the bottom of your style sheet may help:
html {
min-height: 100%;
margin-bottom: 1px;
}
Hurrah for pixel pushing :)
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/49/
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RE: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Quoting Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess that's fair enough. Might have to revert to images for this one. But *please*, for the love of accesibility, make sure the images have meaningful alt attribute set... P ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] hiding content with a click
I've been searching for some simple instructions on how to create a link that says hide content and it will remove a section of text from the page. The layout uses some tables (XHTML Transitional), so it would have to hide three tr's and shift the content below it up. Can somebody please instruct me on a standards-based way of doing this? Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Design http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] hiding content with a click
On 5/9/05, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
create a link that says hide content and it will remove a section
of text from the
page. The layout uses some tables (XHTML Transitional), so it would
have to hide three tr's and shift the content below it up.
Can somebody please instruct me on a standards-based way of doing this?
Quick version, will hide all tr's with a class of 'hide'. Class
attribute may be a space seperated list also, as this script allows
for that.
a href= onclick=hideStuffhide content/a
script type=text/javascript
function hideStuff() {
tr = document.getElementsByTagName('tr');
for(i=0; itr.length; i++ ) {
if( tr[i].className.indexOf('hide')) {
tr[i].display = 'none';
}
}
}
/script
hth,
Andrew.
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Re: [WSG] hiding content with a click
Use onclick to set the ID of the relevant rows to display:none; or something along these lines. There's no way that I'm aware of to remove this content without _javascript_, short of doing server-side processing. On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 11:42 +0100, john wrote: I've been searching for some simple instructions on how to create a link that says hide content and it will remove a section of text from the page. The layout uses some tables (XHTML Transitional), so it would have to hide three tr's and shift the content below it up. Can somebody please instruct me on a standards-based way of doing this? Thanks. Kind Regards, Joshua Street Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the senders consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. attachment: b10s-logo.png
Closed Re: [WSG] OFF-List -Form Validation error
Hi ... no more discussion on this topic (!) offlist posts are fine (when they are offlist) and are a good way to keep in contact with your fellow WSG'ers. We always close threads with a (good) reason. Thanks James --- admin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] site check/comments please
Good day, I am upgrading a site to standards etc and would be grateful for any feedback/suggestions etc, and confirmation from MAC folk that it works OK. It isn't quite finished (two of the contributor links don't work yet - I'm working my way through them) but most of it is in place. The site is temporarily at www.treyarnon.com/wg/ Thanks for your time Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] hiding content with a click
You could employ the same concept that makes this http://webdesign.parkertorrence.com/designtest/peekaboo.php page work. Parker Unfolded WebDesign http://webdesign.parkertorrence.com On 5/9/05, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been searching for some simple instructions on how to create a link that says hide content and it will remove a section of text from the page. The layout uses some tables (XHTML Transitional), so it would have to hide three tr's and shift the content below it up. Can somebody please instruct me on a standards-based way of doing this? Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Design http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] hiding content with a click
Ooops! I really shouldn't leave things half-baked like that.
If the link in question doesn't do anything without javascript, it is
a wise idea to have it written to the page using js as well.
We don't want any orphan UI elements, do we ;)
And I even tested this one :]
//let the code begin
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
titleHide Content Test/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
script type=text/javascript
function hideStuff() {
var tr = document.getElementsByTagName('tr');
for(var i=0; itr.length; i++ ) {
if(tr[i].className == 'hide') {
tr[i].style.display = 'none';
}
}
return false;
}
function addHideLink() {
var link = document.createElement('a');
link.setAttribute('onclick', 'hideStuff()' );
link.setAttribute('href', '#');
link.appendChild(document.createTextNode('Hide Content'));
var parent = document.getElementById('hold');
parent.appendChild(link);
}
window.onload = addHideLink;
/script
/head
body
div id=hold/div
table
tbody
tr
tdfoo/tdtdbar/td
/tr
tr
tdfoo/tdtdbar/td
/tr
tr class=hide
tdThis one's gonna go/tdtd:)/td
/tr
tr
tdfoo/tdtdbar/td
/tr
tr class=hide
td..and/tdtdthis one/td
/tr
/tbody
/table
/body
/html
This is a pretty rough example with poorly written scripts (ie: the
class names, id's and function to be attached to the created element
should be passed as var's), but it works and it gives you something
you can improve on.
Cheers,
Andrew.
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Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
On 5/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But *please*, for the love of accesibility, make sure the images have meaningful alt attribute set... P How does one set an alt attribute for a background image? Parker ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
On Mon, 9 May 2005 06:36:28 -0500, Parker Torrence wrote: How does one set an alt attribute for a background image? You can't. The point of using a background image is that the image is purely decorative, not content. In this case, I think the IMG tag needs to be used. Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
On 5/9/05, Parker Torrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But *please*, for the love of accesibility, make sure the images have meaningful alt attribute set... How does one set an alt attribute for a background image? One doesn't. However, one might set the alt attribute of the button. Buttons created with the BUTTON element function just like buttons created with the INPUT element, but they offer richer rendering possibilities: the BUTTON element may have content. For example, a BUTTON element that contains an image functions like and may resemble an INPUT element whose type is set to image, but the BUTTON element type allows content. ... Recall that authors must provide alternate text for an IMG element. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.5 - Ben ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Parker If you mean a *css* background image than it has no semantic meaning and therefore needs no alt information (nor could you add any alt information to a css created background image if you wanted to anyway) -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web standards contractor? You need my services. Recent projects for Glassonion, Freshweb, Cogentis, Ceneka ... http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://bookcrossing.com/referral/neerav Parker Torrence wrote: On 5/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But *please*, for the love of accesibility, make sure the images have meaningful alt attribute set... P How does one set an alt attribute for a background image? Parker ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] site check/comments please
Bob, Nice site. All works well in IE Mac, FF, Camino and Safari. Should the list of Contributors be a ul instead of h3? Mary On 9 May 2005, at 12:05, designer wrote: Good day, I am upgrading a site to standards etc and would be grateful for any feedback/suggestions etc, and confirmation from MAC folk that it works OK. It isn't quite finished (two of the contributor links don't work yet - I'm working my way through them) but most of it is in place. The site is temporarily at www.treyarnon.com/wg/ Thanks for your time Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Neerav Thank you for your reply. I'm not the one who said to put alt information on a background image, redux was the one who made the statement. (I'm in agreement with you,) Parker On 5/9/05, Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parker If you mean a *css* background image than it has no semantic meaning and therefore needs no alt information (nor could you add any alt information to a css created background image if you wanted to anyway) -- Neerav Bhatt On 5/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But *please*, for the love of accesibility, make sure the images have meaningful alt attribute set... P ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Parker Torrence I'm not the one who said to put alt information on a background image, redux was the one who made the statement. (I'm in agreement with you,) Go back, re-read my message, and tell me exactly where I mention *background* images... Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: font-size? Or do I have to go and use images instead? In which case I would have to use Javascript for the Rollover, which really goes too far! To go with CSS rather than Javascript, you can use a transparent image and swap its background. Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Patrick It was my understanding that the subject of this thread was fonts in front of background images. Therefore by logic any talk about images within the context of this thread whould be implied to be about said background images. If you were not talking about *background* images, then I miss understood your post, and it was just *off topic* for this thread. I thought you ment your post to be on topic, and you knew something I did not. My mistake. Have A Nice Day, Parker Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote Yes, I know I should use relative font sizes, but for this particular case I require a fixed font size. I want the title of a button to appear in front of a background image that cannot be resized. On 5/9/05, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parker Torrence I'm not the one who said to put alt information on a background image, redux was the one who made the statement. (I'm in agreement with you,) Go back, re-read my message, and tell me exactly where I mention *background* images... Patrick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
Hi all, I have a WAI-AAA icon at the bottom of the pages and I'd like to know if I can leave it there or if I have a few more things to work on :-) I'm using label with all my input elements, but the one for the search form at the top at the page. Does using the title attribute make it accessible enough or do I must use label? Also, I've put skip table links inside caption/caption (for people who are not using pointing devices), but they are ignored by FF. How come? Try to tab through the links on the page, you'll see that they are skipped. For the ones who'll check the markup: the few structural hacks are for NN4. http://www.tjkdesign.com/clients/uni/OrderForm.asp?cart=- Thanks, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
I'm using label with all my input elements, but the one for the search form at the top at the page. Does using the title attribute make it accessible enough or do I must use label? Label is in Priority 2, title is enough for Priority 1. BTW placing a label there and hiding it via CSS does the job too... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
Parker Torrence It was my understanding that the subject of this thread was fonts in front of background images. Therefore by logic any talk about images within the context of this thread whould be implied to be about said background images. Not necessarily. As Andreas was referring to buttons (implying clickable foreground element), his I'll have to go with images (couple with the I'll have to use javascript for rollovers) would suggest that, instead of having background image and foreground text, he'd use a foreground image element (unless he was suggesting the rather disingenious idea of having something like an empty link, forcibly styled to a certain width/height, with the background image via CSS). I thought you ment your post to be on topic Anyway... Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
I'm using FF 1.0.1 on Fedora 3 and the links are working for me. Which version/platform FF are you using? On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 07:39 -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Hi all, I have a WAI-AAA icon at the bottom of the pages and I'd like to know if I can leave it there or if I have a few more things to work on :-) I'm using label with all my input elements, but the one for the search form at the top at the page. Does using the title attribute make it accessible enough or do I must use label? Also, I've put skip table links inside caption/caption (for people who are not using pointing devices), but they are ignored by FF. How come? Try to tab through the links on the page, you'll see that they are skipped. For the ones who'll check the markup: the few structural hacks are for NN4. http://www.tjkdesign.com/clients/uni/OrderForm.asp?cart=- Thanks, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?
This thread has dribbled far enough. Any further replies in this thread should be: - related to Andreas' questions, and - related to Web Standards, and - perhaps of interest to the other 1800 list members Have a nice day. - Ben WSG Core On 5/9/05, Andreas Boehmer wrote: Is there any way to overcome Firefox' accessibility and fix the font-size? Or do I have to go and use images instead? In which case I would have to use Javascript for the Rollover, which really goes too far! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
Jan Brasna wrote: Label is in Priority 2, title is enough for Priority 1. BTW placing a label there and hiding it via CSS does the job too... Duh! LOL Thanks, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
diona kidd wrote: I'm using FF 1.0.1 on Fedora 3 and the links are working for me. Which version/platform FF are you using? I'm using v. 0.8 and 1.0.2 on WinXP When you say working, do you mean you can click on them and jump to the anchors or that you can tab through all the links in the main section of the page without skipping them? Because the former works, it is the latter that doesn't. Thanks for your feedback, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] site check/comments please
Thanks Mary, Actually, it isn't an h3, that just applies to the title line. The list is simply that - a list of a ref's. I didn't see the point of making it any more complex than it needed to be, and it all seemed to work OK. But hey - I'm learning here, and asking for advice, so if there IS a good reason why it should be a ul please do tell. Thanks, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Mary Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] site check/comments please Bob, Nice site. All works well in IE Mac, FF, Camino and Safari. Should the list of Contributors be a ul instead of h3? Mary On 9 May 2005, at 12:05, designer wrote: Good day, I am upgrading a site to standards etc and would be grateful for any feedback/suggestions etc, and confirmation from MAC folk that it works OK. It isn't quite finished (two of the contributor links don't work yet - I'm working my way through them) but most of it is in place. The site is temporarily at www.treyarnon.com/wg/ Thanks for your time Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Background Image
http://www.ckimedia.com/ep_site/index.htm At the url listed is a solution for a large textured background, against a gradient. Can someone offer a critique of this method, and if possible another solution? C ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
Hi Thierry, I think your page has issued with Safari (Jaguar), it shuts down the browser after 2 or 3 second of loading. I tested 4 times, same result. tee Jan Brasna wrote: Label is in Priority 2, title is enough for Priority 1. BTW placing a label there and hiding it via CSS does the job too... Duh! LOL Thanks, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
tee wrote: Hi Thierry, I think your page has issued with Safari (Jaguar), it shuts down the browser after 2 or 3 second of loading. I tested 4 times, same result. Hi Tee, I was going to reply off-list, but on the other hand I'd like to see someone else using Jaguar to check the page. Just to make sure the problem is related to the site itself. BTW, what OS is Jaguar? (you can answer this off-list) I've checked with Safari v. 1.2.4 in OSX v.10.3.7 and it is working fine... Thanks for checking, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check please - eCommerce
BTW, what OS is Jaguar? (you can answer this off-list) Mac OS X 10.2 I've checked with Safari v. 1.2.4 in OSX v.10.3.7 and it is working fine... 1.2.4 on 10.3.8 also fine -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Background Image
On 10 May 2005, at 3:26 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: http://www.ckimedia.com/ep_site/index.htm At the url listed is a solution for a large textured background, against a gradient. Can someone offer a critique of this method, and if possible another solution? Using one large image as bgrd to div#container is generating a page that's as wide as the image - with a horizontal scrollbar - and the parchment, which presumably will be bg to the site content, is offset 250px from the left edge of the viewport. Try separating the parchment and green background, using the green background as background image of body (hence no horiz scrollbar), and the parchment image as background to div#container, centred within body. That way, the parchment will 'float' over the green background, and fit without horizontal scroll in a browser 800px wide. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Background Image
Hi, Thanks so much, I also dissected the sections into a head image, body and footer. C On May 9, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: On 10 May 2005, at 3:26 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: http://www.ckimedia.com/ep_site/index.htm At the url listed is a solution for a large textured background, against a gradient. Can someone offer a critique of this method, and if possible another solution? Using one large image as bgrd to div#container is generating a page that's as wide as the image - with a horizontal scrollbar - and the parchment, which presumably will be bg to the site content, is offset 250px from the left edge of the viewport. Try separating the parchment and green background, using the green background as background image of body (hence no horiz scrollbar), and the parchment image as background to div#container, centred within body. That way, the parchment will 'float' over the green background, and fit without horizontal scroll in a browser 800px wide. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Privacy Statements
Hi all what are the pro's and cons of offering a privacy statement? a lot of people think a site looks more legit with a privacy statement, do you agree? leigh This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Privacy Statements
If you are collecting email and other contact information, you should have a privacy statement detailing what you will do with that information. If you only plan to use it internally, i.e. mailing list, specify that. It's not a nice thing to have; it should be a required thing. We all have gotten burned by spammers and it is nice to know that you are giving your contact info to someone reputable. Ideally, we'd be able to hold people responsible for violating the privacy policy when they do sell it to a spammer. If you don't collect information, you don't need a privacy policy. There's also a theory that Google gives extra points to sites with a privacy policy link on the home page. Now that I've said that, I'm wondering... did I just put a privacy policy on that last site... ? Time to go back and make sure. Ted http://www.tdrake.net Hi all what are the pro's and cons of offering a privacy statement? a lot of people think a site looks more legit with a privacy statement, do you agree? leigh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Privacy Statements
On Mon, 09 May 2005 19:25:12 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all what are the pro's and cons of offering a privacy statement? a lot of people think a site looks more legit with a privacy statement, do you agree? Yet another useless meaningless seal or button..? leigh -- http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED
THREAD CLOSED Please reply to Leigh off-list. This is definitely off-topic - has nothing to do with web standards. If you have a problem with the closing of this thread, please do not post to the list. Instead, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Russ Hi all what are the pro's and cons of offering a privacy statement? a lot of people think a site looks more legit with a privacy statement, do you agree? leigh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Privacy Statements Standards
Maybe we can steer it towards web standards? Anyone interested in Privacy as a standard should check out the W3C's Platform for Privacy Preferences http://www.w3.org/P3P/ This is a W3C Recommendation and has been around for a bit now... Richard :o) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED
Umm, exactly what planet are you on? Can you supply a valid reason why this is not something that should be either in or out of the standards (best practices) for site design? Quoting russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]: THREAD CLOSED Please reply to Leigh off-list. This is definitely off-topic - has nothing to do with web standards. If you have a problem with the closing of this thread, please do not post to the list. Instead, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Russ Hi all what are the pro's and cons of offering a privacy statement? a lot of people think a site looks more legit with a privacy statement, do you agree? leigh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED
Goodbye! P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org; russ - maxdesign Cc: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED Umm, exactly what planet are you on? Can you supply a valid reason why this is not something that should be either in or out of the standards (best practices) for site design? Quoting russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]: THREAD CLOSED Please reply to Leigh off-list. This is definitely off-topic - has nothing to do with web standards. If you have a problem with the closing of this thread, please do not post to the list. Instead, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Russ Hi all what are the pro's and cons of offering a privacy statement? a lot of people think a site looks more legit with a privacy statement, do you agree? leigh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Firefox and vulnerabilities?
http://www.enterpriseitplanet.com/security/news/article.php/3503751 Sorry if OT! The Mozilla Foundation is aware of two potentially critical Firefox security vulnerabilities as reported publicly Saturday, May 7th. There are currently no known active exploits of these vulnerabilities although a proof of concept has been reported. Changes to the Mozilla Update web service have been made to mitigate the risk of an exploit. Mozilla is aggressively working to provide a more comprehensive solution to these potential vulnerabilities and will provide that solution in a forthcoming security update. Users can further protect themselves today by temporarily disabling JavaScript. Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Firefox and vulnerabilities?
Another way tp ortect yourself without disabling JavaScript is to disable the Allow web sites to install software radio button in Tools/Options/Web Features Grant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Amit Karmakar Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2005 1:40 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Firefox and vulnerabilities? http://www.enterpriseitplanet.com/security/news/article.php/3503751 Sorry if OT! The Mozilla Foundation is aware of two potentially critical Firefox security vulnerabilities as reported publicly Saturday, May 7th. There are currently no known active exploits of these vulnerabilities although a proof of concept has been reported. Changes to the Mozilla Update web service have been made to mitigate the risk of an exploit. Mozilla is aggressively working to provide a more comprehensive solution to these potential vulnerabilities and will provide that solution in a forthcoming security update. Users can further protect themselves today by temporarily disabling JavaScript. Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
