Re: [WSG] Element suggestion requested
On 20 Sep 2007, at 20:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: On 20/9/07 (15:21) Nick said: Was there any particular reason not to have the h2 elements in the li elements, rather than placing them in a div? Um... a brain seizure of some sort I think. I somehow had it in my head that block-level items are not permitted inside list items, which is of course nonsense. But to be honest, even with the ability to put almost any tag inside an li, I still don't feel like a heading is the right one. These aren't headings, after all. And a span probably isn't the right one either, but I chose it because its semantically neutral. These values should have some weight given to them, but H2 implies a hierarchical structure that is not there. Agreed that a heading doesn't really make much sense in this context. Why not a p rather than a span? That goes some way to addressing the semantics of a list of statements, which is basically what this is. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Web Design Test - IE Users
Joseph Taylor wrote: Hey everyone! I wanted some of you windows users to test out this site if you'd be so kind on your IE browsers. http://steveframe.sitesbyjoe.com Joseph R. B. Taylor IE6 and IE7 on Parallels/Mac It looked fine to me and I saw no serious issues, Joseph. 800 resolution users might object to the h-scroll bar. The paragraphs of uppercase text are difficult to read. With font-scaling, the sub-page main headings stack too tight (easier to see at +3 in a compliant browser). Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Element suggestion requested
On 21/9/07 (10:39) Nick said: Agreed that a heading doesn't really make much sense in this context. Why not a p rather than a span? That goes some way to addressing the semantics of a list of statements, which is basically what this is. I the end, Nick, I plumped for a strong tag; it gives some semantic weight to the list item without implying a hierarchical structure. It's semantically ambiguous content, really, and I suspect that several tags *could* be pressed into service, so I'm not going to worry about it too much. I think that the most important aspect was defining it as a list; the secondary tag (strong) is less important IMHO. Also, this is destined for an intranet CMS that seems to view semantics and web standards largely as curiosities from the future to be marvelled over and then entirely ignored. Still, that's no reason for me not make the effort. (Their limited set up pull-down formatting options lacks blockquote yet still includes MENU. Ugh). Thanks to everyone for your invaluable for your suggestions. -- Rick Lecoat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Web Design Test - IE Users
Looks great Joe. I took a glance in IE6 and there dosent seem to be any layout issues that I can see. Ryan Crocker Training Support Specialist Volvo Penta of the Americas, Inc. Chesapeake, VA, USA Phone: 1-757-436-2800 x7733 Fax: 1-757-436-5182 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Taylor Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Web Design Test - IE Users Hey everyone! I wanted some of you windows users to test out this site if you'd be so kind on your IE browsers. http://steveframe.sitesbyjoe.com Please let me know if there are any layout issues you encounter (float drops etc) Some pages won't validate because I'm scraping the table-laden content from the parent company's awful, though I try to clean them up somewhat (sales and rental search). I noticed a couple heading issues on my old win2k server, but it has an odd resolution and things look as horrible as they possibly could... Thanks in advance! Joseph R. B. Taylor - Sites by Joe, LLC Keep it Clean, Simple Elegant (609) 335-3076 http://sitesbyjoe.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Web Design Test - IE Users
Joseph Taylor wrote:
Hey everyone!
I wanted some of you windows users to test out this site if you'd be
so kind on your IE browsers.
http://steveframe.sitesbyjoe.com
Please let me know if there are any layout issues you encounter (float
drops etc)
Some pages won't validate because I'm scraping the table-laden content
from the parent company's awful, though I try to clean them up
somewhat (sales and rental search).
I noticed a couple heading issues on my old win2k server, but it has
an odd resolution and things look as horrible as they possibly could...
Thanks in advance!
Very nice Mr Taylor,
One section that needs some attention is the search form, there's about
15 errors that HTML Tidy caught that are producng some odd effects (br
/s in the legend?). Once you have that validated it should start to
look more consistent cross-browser, let us know once you've done that.
Also this little snippet will prevent the dropdown button from
overlapping the text in the options on the dropdowns:
option { padding-right: 0.5em; }
Cheers,
Rob
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Re: [WSG] Web Design Test - IE Users
Thanks for the feedback everyone, the items you mention (all caps on
text, html errors on search form) are all out of my control. This
content is scraped from pages of a circa 1999 frames-based frontpage
site (yuck!) I try to clean the html best I can with some php
(preg_replace, str_replace, etc) but ultimately I have to step back in
the hopes that the parent company's site will get a cleanup (never gonna
happen).
Thanks again,
Joseph R. B. Taylor
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Sites by Joe, LLC
Keep it Clean, Simple Elegant
(609) 335-3076
http://sitesbyjoe.com
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Robert O'Rourke wrote:
Joseph Taylor wrote:
Hey everyone!
I wanted some of you windows users to test out this site if you'd be
so kind on your IE browsers.
http://steveframe.sitesbyjoe.com
Please let me know if there are any layout issues you encounter
(float drops etc)
Some pages won't validate because I'm scraping the table-laden
content from the parent company's awful, though I try to clean them
up somewhat (sales and rental search).
I noticed a couple heading issues on my old win2k server, but it has
an odd resolution and things look as horrible as they possibly could...
Thanks in advance!
Very nice Mr Taylor,
One section that needs some attention is the search form, there's
about 15 errors that HTML Tidy caught that are producng some odd
effects (br /s in the legend?). Once you have that validated it
should start to look more consistent cross-browser, let us know once
you've done that. Also this little snippet will prevent the dropdown
button from overlapping the text in the options on the dropdowns:
option { padding-right: 0.5em; }
Cheers,
Rob
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Re: [WSG] Calendars and tables
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:19:07PM -0400, Andrew Maben wrote: So what about an entire year? Is a table of tables permissible? Or should one somehow cram all the information into a single table? I would do exactly the opposite as the other person who has answered this post (Diego); maybe because I haven't written a table-less month calendar. :-) I agree with what you've said about months being properly marked up as tabular data (therefore using a table), but months I would mark as a list. You can present it using CSS on rows, of course, but they won't stop being a list of twelve items (months). Angel -- Angel @ Granada, Spain PGP Public key: http://www.ugr.es/~ama/ama-pgp-key 3EB2 967A 9404 6585 7086 8811 2CEC 2F81 9341 E591 -- () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - http://www.asciiribbon.org/ /\ Against all HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
