Re: [WSG] a:hover delayed
I tested the page in both Internet Explore 6 7. I do not see any signs that the browser is slow, nor any evidence of flickering. --Zachary José de Jesús Sanchez Betanzos wrote: Hi, I'm jesus. Look how the a:hover effect in the following menu make the browser slow... http://www.jesusbet.net/tmp/sp/ I wanted to do something like the menu on the web standards group homepage: http://webstandardsgroup.org/ And I did it, but when you browse the menu using Internet Explorer,it makes the browser slow... I was checking my code and it looks the same as the CSS code in cssbeauty menu... but i couldn't fix it... Thanks for your help... (and sorry for my english :D) -- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Case of the amazing disappearing wrapper!
You probably could get the line break to work, but you'd still have to
give it some dimension. You had line-height:0.
Glad I could help!
--Zachary
jackie reid wrote:
Thank you Zackary... I accept the fix with real gratitude.
I am confused though. I have been using that br class=clear / bizo
for ages and ages and usually it works perfectly. Why wouldnt it work
this time?
I have slightly changed the way i built this site after reading the
div mania article posted on the wsg site the other day and realised
that most of my sites were suffering from it, maybe this has changed
the reaction of the br class clear thing and made it defunct. Who
knows. One thing i do know is that we cant take anything for granted
in this game. Just cos it worked yesterday doesnt mean its going to
work today.
Once again thanks heaps for your help
jackie
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Case of the amazing disappearing wrapper!
I've had this problem before.
It involves a 0-height object not clearing. There needs to some
dimension to an object that clears another.
I've uploaded a copy to my site for you to check out.
I've modified the page to be valid XHTML 1.0 Strict, given your doctype.
The changes are commented, but I've changed the clearing object to be a
div and I've given it some dimension.
Changed CSS: .clear{ clear: both;height:1px;}
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/wsg_fx_ent/index.htm
Hope it helps!
--Zachary
jackie reid wrote:
Hi List
I dont understand whats going on here at all.
http://www.fxenterprises.com.au/index.htm
the white wrapper div is just not containing the content. Or rather
sometimes it is and sometimes its not.
when you first go into the site the wrapper doesnt stretch, if you
use the navigation and move to another page it seems ok. but when
you refresh the screen whompa... its the amazing disappearing
wrapper thing again.
Please shed light on the subject if you can.
Thanks again list.
Jackie
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Re: [WSG] Case of the amazing disappearing wrapper!
I've had this problem before.
It involves a 0-height object not clearing. There needs to some
dimension to an object that clears another.
I've uploaded a copy to my site for you to check out.
I've modified the page to be valid XHTML 1.0 Strict, given your doctype.
The changes are commented, but I've changed the clearing object to be a
div and I've given it some dimension.
Changed CSS: .clear{ clear: both;height:1px;}
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/wsg_fx_ent/index.htm
Hope it helps!
--Zachary
jackie reid wrote:
Hi List
I dont understand whats going on here at all.
http://www.fxenterprises.com.au/index.htm
the white wrapper div is just not containing the content. Or rather
sometimes it is and sometimes its not.
when you first go into the site the wrapper doesnt stretch, if you use
the navigation and move to another page it seems ok. but when you
refresh the screen whompa... its the amazing disappearing wrapper
thing again.
Please shed light on the subject if you can.
Thanks again list.
Jackie
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Re: [WSG] Images not loading...
Kim, I see what you're talking about. When the page first loaded for me (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 (ax)), I saw images for only the first 2 navigation buttons. When I clicked away to another application and then came back, they were there. I'm not really sure as to exactly why this occurs, but if you don't mind me asking, why is the height set to 0? --Zachary Kim Kruse wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for your reply. Perhaps I would a great idea to mention it's the images in the navbar below the header image. Do they still show? Kim Jeff D. Reid wrote: All images load just fine using the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 Firefox/1.0.3 and Windows XP Pro I am located in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA and it is Sunday, June 26, 2005, 3:12 pm EST.. HTH, Jeff - Original Message - From: Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: [WSG] Images not loading... Hi, On this page http://mouseriders.dk/esrum/test.htm I have some sort of problem in FF and other Gecko browsers. The images just don't show up unless I scroll the page, mouseover the links or reload the page. Does anybody know why? I would really appreciate some help as I have no idea what's causing this. Thank you very much Kim ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE's driving me crazy
I'm still playing with it, but I think your problem lies within this CSS
from /hubs.css/:
#main #hubs {
display: block;
position: relative;
width: 100%;
margin: .75em 0 2em 0;
}
#main #hubs table {
width: 515px;
border-top: 1px solid #eee;
border-left: 1px solid #eee;
border-collapse: collapse;
margin: 1em 0 0 0;
}
When commented out, the space disappears.
I gave background colors to all surrounding elements and the gap has no
color of its own, only the background #2D2D2D, suggesting to me that
it's a margin-related problem.
--Zachary
Wayne Godfrey wrote:
For some unknown reason IE Win is bent on driving me crazy (I'm sure
it's all the nice things I've said). The file listed below works in
Safari, FF, Opera and even IE on Mac as well as FF on Win. The CSS
validates as does the XHTML, but on IE Win there is a huge space
between my h1 and the table below it. Now, I really stink at tables,
but this one needs to be, so I'm not sure if it's my lousy table code
or something else. I also have two other pages that have similar
tables that are doing the same thing. Any help will be greatly
appreciated as I'm about blind and out of answers on my end!
The file:
http://vtest.jrations.com/hubs-n-such.php
The CSS:
http://www.jrations.com/css/main_test.css
http://www.jrations.com/css/hubs.css
The second CSS file controls the table on this page.
Thanks in advance,
w
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Re: [WSG] IE's driving me crazy
Removing width: 100%;, fixes the problem in IE, but causes the table
to shift to the left in Mozilla/Firefox and Opera.
I changed the margin on /#main #hubs table/ to be 0 for top/bottom and
auto for the sides.
This seems to fix all the problems.
Final, Edited CSS from /hubs.css/:
#main #hubs {
display: block;
position: relative;
margin: .75em 0 2em 0;
}
#main #hubs table {
width: 400px;
border-top: 1px solid #eee;
border-left: 1px solid #eee;
border-collapse: collapse;
margin: 0 auto;
}
Hope this helps. :-)
--Zachary Hopkins
Wayne Godfrey wrote:
For some unknown reason IE Win is bent on driving me crazy (I'm sure
it's all the nice things I've said). The file listed below works in
Safari, FF, Opera and even IE on Mac as well as FF on Win. The CSS
validates as does the XHTML, but on IE Win there is a huge space
between my h1 and the table below it. Now, I really stink at tables,
but this one needs to be, so I'm not sure if it's my lousy table code
or something else. I also have two other pages that have similar
tables that are doing the same thing. Any help will be greatly
appreciated as I'm about blind and out of answers on my end!
The file:
http://vtest.jrations.com/hubs-n-such.php
The CSS:
http://www.jrations.com/css/main_test.css
http://www.jrations.com/css/hubs.css
The second CSS file controls the table on this page.
Thanks in advance,
w
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Re: [WSG] Need Windows browser check and Mozilla/Firefox help
I'm uploading all sorts of sorts of screenies for ya! Visit http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/wsg_love2tap/ in your web browser. You can see all the screenies there! --Zachary Hopkins Paul Burchfield wrote: Hi everyone, Most of the time, I see people who use Windows ask for a browser check from a Mac. I'm in need of the opposite. Take a look at: http://www.love2tap.com/test/ The box looks good to me in IE5/Mac and Safari. But in Firefox 1.01 and Netscape 7.2 for the Mac, there's a slight gap (looks like 1 pixel) you can see on the side where the side graphic isn't meeting the top graphic. I've put up some screen shots at: http://www.love2tap.com/test/preview.html I'm not sure what's causing the gap and whether it's there in the Windows version. Also, when I do a print preview, the graphical elements are moving around a bit. Any tips would be great. -Paul Burchfield P.S. I have run both the HTML and CSS through the validators at w3c.org, and they come back with no errors or warnings. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
I happen to like the font :-P The navigation has plenty of backups. I'm not sure why everything would disappear. I don't use any img tags, everything is a background image through block elements and CSS. They have titles, and text within the element for the text version. :-/ Forgive me, but a source ordered document means what? (O.o) --Zachary David Laakso wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:32:19 -0500, Hopkins Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can ya give it a once-over and let...] Website URI: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ XP_SP2 Opera.54/FF1.0.1/IE6.0 Take all of this with a grain of salt, not as cruel and unusual punishment, as I often have nothing better to do than nit-pick: I find the funky font on the strange blue shape difficult to read. I think I might find the funky font difficult to read even if it was not on top of a strange blue shape. There seems to be no means of navigation, or text for the images, when images are disabled in Opera or FF; and same for IE in accessibility mode. Incidentally, frames are disabled in Opera(default). Lynx seems fine, although a source ordered document might be an advantage? You have a couple of minor parse errors on the CSS file. HTML validates. --Zachary Hopkins Best, David -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check
Lynx seems to like it Ok. I never thought of the Opera thing before. Kinda weird... (O.o) Thanks! --Zachary Juergen Auer wrote: Hi Zachary, your links are wrong. They are like http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products Calling this with Opera and disabled automatic redirection, a page with http 301 is shown. I do not know if every screen-reader or lynx would accept this. Better: Link directly http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products/ Best Regards Juergen Auer http://www.sql-und-xml.de/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Bullets not showing up in Firefox/Opera
Aha! That would be it. I thought that the ID would carry over, but I
guess not.
Thanks a bunch Juergen!
--Zachary
Juergen Auer wrote:
I see the foollowing two lines:
#navbox ul, li{display:block;margin:0;padding:0 0 0 0;}
and
#buttons ul, li{display:block;margin:0;padding:0 0 0 0;}
Both do not declare (#navbox ul) And (#navbox li),
instead (#navbox ul) And (li)
If I kill both 'li' or change them to the undefined 'lis', the error
is away.
Use instead:
#navbox ul, #navbox li{display:block;margin:0;padding:0 0 0 0;}
and
#buttons ul {display:block;margin:0;padding:0 0 0 0;}
#buttons li {display:block; margin-left:1em;padding:0;}
On my own domain, the margin:0;padding:0 also didn't work.
Best Regards
Juergen Auer
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[WSG] Bullets not showing up in Firefox/Opera
See here - http://69.174.31.29:99/products/vbdoodle/ The bullets are visible in IE, but not in Firefox/Opera. I've never seen this happen before and I am sure I've done something goofy to make them go away, but I am unable to figure out what it is. Perhaps you guys have some suggestions? Thanks! --Zachary -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] naughty horizontal unformatted list in OSX IE 5.2 - Mac-addicts needed!
I've got a horizontal link bar on my site, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, it works fine in IE 5 on Mac. Try adding *float:left* to the navigation items. --Zachary Miles Tillinger wrote: Hi all, I've managed to get this horizontal menu working in most browsers that it needs to, but IE 5.2 on OSX is being painful (not surprisingly). The original HTML was provided by another designer who seemed to build standard-compliant sites differently to me so I've changed most of the menus to use unformatted lists. The Top Menu list refuses to go horizontal, instead it just stacks the list items. Also the links don't even work! A nested list is supposed to popup when hovering over 'Components', however I expected that to be a problem. Example page http://career.uat.edna.edu.au/career/Jahia/news CSS http://career.uat.edna.edu.au/styles/acdsScreen.css I'm running out of hair trying to get a nice solution, so before I give in and use a hack to hide the styles from OSX IE 5.2, has anyone been able to fix a similar problem? Regards, Miles Tillinger Senior Technical Officer education.au limited 178 Fullarton Road Dulwich SA 5065 Ph. (08) 8334 3247 Fax. (08) 8334 3211 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit our websites: http://www.edna.edu.au/ http://www.educationau.edu.au/ Building and managing online information services and knowledge networks ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] naughty horizontal unformatted list in OSX IE 5.2 - Mac-addicts needed!
Here's a quick reference to the css for my nav bar:
ul.navigation{margin:0;padding:0;border-style:none;border-width:0;display:table-cell;}
li.navigation{display:block;float:left;text-align:center;padding:0 3px 0
3px;margin:0;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;}
Such as,
ul class=navigation
li class=navigationa.../a/li
li class=navigationa.../a/li
/ul
It's probably a combination of things, like float:left and display:block.
--Zachary
Miles Tillinger wrote:
Hi Zachary,
I'll take a better look at your link bar and see if I can work out why
yours works and my doesn't... thanks :)
nb. In my CSS, the LI's are floated left and it doesn't seem to help...
Regards,
Miles.
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Subject: Re: [WSG] naughty horizontal unformatted list in OSX
IE 5.2 - Mac-addicts needed!
I've got a horizontal link bar on my site,
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, it works fine in IE 5 on
Mac. Try adding *float:left* to the navigation items.
--Zachary
Miles Tillinger wrote:
Hi all,
I've managed to get this horizontal menu working in most
browsers that
it needs to, but IE 5.2 on OSX is being painful (not surprisingly).
The original HTML was provided by another designer who
seemed to build
standard-compliant sites differently to me so I've changed
most of the
menus to use unformatted lists. The Top Menu list refuses to go
horizontal, instead it just stacks the list items. Also the links
don't even work! A nested list is supposed to popup when
hovering over
'Components', however I expected that to be a problem.
Example page
http://career.uat.edna.edu.au/career/Jahia/news
CSS
http://career.uat.edna.edu.au/styles/acdsScreen.css
I'm running out of hair trying to get a nice solution, so
before I give
in and use a hack to hide the styles from OSX IE 5.2, has
anyone been
able to fix a similar problem?
Regards,
Miles Tillinger
Senior Technical Officer
education.au limited
178 Fullarton Road
Dulwich SA 5065
Ph. (08) 8334 3247
Fax. (08) 8334 3211
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[WSG] New Site Design
I'm thinking about redesigning my website. Which of these two designs do you like better? Current: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ New: http://69.174.31.29:100/newsite/ Thanks for your opinions! --Zachary Hopkins -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Cool css box idea
Hello again! I've recently been fascinated by round boxes on pages. I will have to wait for CSS3 to be officially released and then adopted before I can use the border-radius feature. Until then, I am experimenting with my own rounded boxes, with corners generated in PHP. If you have Firefox or Opera available to you, please take a look and tell me what you think - http://69.174.31.29:100/roundbox/. The CSS needs to be optimized and I haven't set it up to work in IE yet, but it's pretty cool to me. Rounded boxes with rounded shadows! :-) --Zachary Hopkins -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Cool css box idea
Wow! That;s a lotta divs! For the possible purposes of my site, I shouldn't have to worry too much about corners disappearing due to images being turned off. --Zachary Gunlaug Srtun wrote: Zachary Hopkins wrote: I've recently been fascinated by round boxes on pages. I will have to wait for CSS3 to be officially released and then adopted before I can use the border-radius feature. Or you can cheat a little while waiting for CSS3: http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_6_xv.html ... my page is getting old... Until then, I am experimenting with my own rounded boxes, with corners generated in PHP. If you have Firefox or Opera available to you, please take a look and tell me what you think - http://69.174.31.29:100/roundbox/. Opera: fine. Firefox Safari: also fine, but those two boxes will overlap on narrow screens. I can see that those images are not optimized yet, and they're slightly out of position on lower right corner. A bit more, and it will come out right. You use almost as many extra divs as I did, and have got a shadow too. Guess the difference between yours and mine is that my boxes are still round when images are turned off. It's nice to play with these style-features, even if the source-code looks a bit crappy. Hope those standards, and browsers, will catch up with us soon. regards Georg -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [WSG] Need some MAC screen grabs - And some more
COOL!!! (O_O) Yarr! I'm going to have to work on some of those.. (o_o) *Specifically, IE5/Mac and Netscape 4.x/All. IE4/Win is blank, wonder why? Very nice tool! I do wish it was free though... --Zachary Hopkins Juha-Markku Liikala wrote: Hi to all! Just a little off-topic... I think that there might be many people who don't know about this service: http://www.browsercam.com/ It's a site where you can get screen caps of your site from a large variety of browsers and different system configurations. It's not free, but there is a limited free trial. People who make professional websites on daily basis are propably very interested in this service. I just thought to tell about this if someone's not already heard of it. Cheers, Juha-Markku Liikala Department of Information Processing Science www.juhaliikala.com University of Oulu, Finland On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Thanks I got what I needed. Kind Regards Jacobus van Niekerk Creative Consultant web: http://www.catics.com/ | http://www.freelancecontractors.com tel: + 27 21 982 7805 Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Hi all, I need the MAC girls guys ;) to help me out. Can you please send me a screen grab of the following url http://www.parachute.com/te/smallbusiness/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2005/02/14 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] silly question
It's in your CSS. I am working on trying to find the specific answer. It may be caused by incorrect css references through double id's.. I will send word when I find more. --Zachary simon dodson wrote: can anyone tell me why the list bullets are not showing in ie6. they appear to be working in firefox bar ie any help much appreciated ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] silly question
Under #c #list, removing, float:left; width: 128px; will make the bullets work, but they hide behind the picture. --Zachary simon dodson wrote: can anyone tell me why the list bullets are not showing in ie6. they appear to be working in firefox bar ie any help much appreciated ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] silly question
Working code:
+
#c #list{
float:left;
width: 128px;
margin: 20px 0 0 0;
padding: 0 0 0 25px;
font-weight: bold;
list-style-image: url(images/dot.gif);
}
+
*I believe your more global _ul_ command _#c ul_ might be causing your
problems.*
--Zachary
simon dodson wrote:
can anyone tell me why the list bullets are not showing in ie6. they
appear to be working in firefox bar ie
any help much appreciated
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Re: [WSG] IE fixed: PNG transparency working like Firefox???
So far, IE 6.x on Windows supports PNG-8, which has index transparency. The only way I know of to make IE support alpha transparency is to use a javascript, such as Dean Edward's IE7, or to use Microsoft's proprietary filter: in CSS (Read more here: http://www.koivi.com/ie-png-transparency/). Hope this helps. :-) --Zachary JW wrote: Hi, A developer on my project showed me a site with a lot of PGNs using alpha transparency. Formely we had to include a piece of javascript to get it working the way we want in IE 6.x Since the last patchday it seems that IE 6.x got a security update that fixed the alpha transparency issues as well. Is there some one who can verify our findings? Regards, JW http://pomtiedom.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help
- I got the link text figured out.It just didn't link my hyperlinks w/
background images not having any link text.
- Redundant tabindex tags? (O.o)?
- What's wrong with letters?
- The meta tags hold keywords, page descriptions, author info, page
rating, time between search bot re-indexing, etc, etc
--Zachary
John Britsios wrote:
Zachary,
The only problems I see on you page is, that you are using redudant tabindex
tags and letters instead of numbers for you accesskeys.
About http://webxact.watchfire.com/ no need to worry!
That is the only tool of all I know and that I do not use.
Stick for automatic evaluations with Cynthia Says, WAVE and with some care
with Bobby.
Off topic: What are all those Meta Tags for?
Regards,
John S. Britsios
http://www.webnauts.net
- Original Message -
From: Zachary Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:09 AM
Subject: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help
On my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I use CSS background
images instead of the img tag. So, I have hyper linked
background-images, if that makes sense, and they have no actual link
text. Watchfire's WebXACT (http://webxact.watchfire.com/) accessibility
validator is giving me an error with WAI Priority 2, Checkpoint 13.1. I
understand why I am getting the error, but I am not sure of the best way
to correct it, as I do not want text covering up the images.
Any suggestions?
= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');
/a
==
-- Zachary Hopkins
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Re: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help
- Redundancy is key. I want no one left out, whether they have the
latest and greatest, oldest and moldiest, cell phone, PDA, whatever!
- CDATA is bad? How does it degrade?
- The contact links have been fixed to meet Priority 1 checkpoint 6.3
and Priority 2 checkpoint 10.1.
--Zachary
John Britsios wrote:
Zachary,
Me again. I also do not see your reason using a text-only version. It is
absolutely redudant! You did a too good work, to hang on your page a
text-version.
Also you are using CDATA sections which are not recommended due to poor
browser support (even some newer browsers fail to properly support it) and
due to other complications.
Your new window does not open on your privacy policy page to send you an
email, when JavaScript is disabled.
Have a look here to see how to solve this:
http://www.webnauts.net/new_window.html
Regards,
John S. Britsios
http://www.webnauts.net
- Original Message -
From: Zachary Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:09 AM
Subject: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help
On my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I use CSS background
images instead of the img tag. So, I have hyper linked
background-images, if that makes sense, and they have no actual link
text. Watchfire's WebXACT (http://webxact.watchfire.com/) accessibility
validator is giving me an error with WAI Priority 2, Checkpoint 13.1. I
understand why I am getting the error, but I am not sure of the best way
to correct it, as I do not want text covering up the images.
Any suggestions?
= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');
/a
==
-- Zachary Hopkins
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[WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!
Hello! I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself. My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6 months now, and I really like them! You can check my website out at http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/. I'm doing my best to make sure that it is an accessible and standards based website. I welcome any comments or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do them. I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks? Thank you! --Zachary Hopkins -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net begin:vcard fn:Zachary Hopkins n:Hopkins;Zachary org:Hopkins Programming adr:;;United States email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!
Thank you John! I will get these items updated today! --Zachary John Britsios wrote: Zachary welcome at WSG! My suggestions: To your page MarkUp: 1. HTML 4.01 and XHTML require the legend element in fieldsets. Use this element immediately after the fieldset start tag. To your page accessibility: 1. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page (such as spacer images). [Section 1194.22 (a)] 2. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page (such as spacer images). [P1, 1.1] John S. Britsios - Original Message - From: Zachary Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people! Hello! I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself. My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6 months now, and I really like them! You can check my website out at http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/. I'm doing my best to make sure that it is an accessible and standards based website. I welcome any comments or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do them. I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks? Thank you! --Zachary Hopkins -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net begin:vcard fn:Zachary Hopkins n:Hopkins;Zachary org:Hopkins Programming adr:;;United States email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help
On my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I use CSS background
images instead of the img tag. So, I have hyper linked
background-images, if that makes sense, and they have no actual link
text. Watchfire's WebXACT (http://webxact.watchfire.com/) accessibility
validator is giving me an error with WAI Priority 2, Checkpoint 13.1. I
understand why I am getting the error, but I am not sure of the best way
to correct it, as I do not want text covering up the images.
Any suggestions?
= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');/a
==
-- Zachary Hopkins
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Re: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help
It seems that adding in hidden text would be the best way.
Thanks!
--Zachary
Terrence Wood wrote:
The links on your page where you use image replacement do not contain
any text, this is what is causing the errors. Basically what the
report says is that you can't use the same link text with differing
href's... in your case the link text is an empty string.
Remove empty lines from your code so you can follow the line numbers
as reported, and it should all make sense.
You need to look at image replacement techniques.
see: http://www.google.com/search?q=css%20image%20replacement
Terrence Wood.
Zachary Hopkins wrote:
Any suggestions?
= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');/a
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