RE: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-25 Thread Ted Drake
I wish this weren't so off-topic, web standards wise. There have been some 
interesting posts that go beyond just coding but making out sites more 
effective. 

For more information on the effects of blue, look at the works of Yves Klein, 
an artist from Paris in the 1950's?  Some will disregard him as a pure showman, 
but the blue that he developed is hypnotic. I'm sure that I am not the only one 
that has stood in front of one of his paintings and felt like I was entering it.

I recently put together a web site with heavy blue tones, 
www.cruiseguarantee.com and it just makes me happy when I see all of the blue.

Ted
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From: Albert Gedraitis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue


Perhaps the leading use of blue on websites has to do
with the psychology of the colour.  It is known that in dreams
blue is a recurring phenom associated with comforting
authority, and is often dominant in sleeping dreams,
day dreams, and vivid externalized images (apparitions,
hallucinations).  I have had dreams of my mother coming
from the Interim State (I'm of Reformed Christian tradition,
where "Heaven" is only a metaphor for the Interim State before
the Resurrecton of the Body), and mostly attired in blue.
Also, this kind of phenom is associated with appearances of
the Blessed Virgin in Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions.

Not just any blue will do, however.  This comfort/authority
deeply-embedded psychic phenom is more a sky-blue, not
very dark, not very pale, not luminescent. [By "psychic," I
don't limit myself to the more esoteric element, but indicate the
whole spread of these types of phenom; I avoid "psychological"
because that precisions a reference to the scientific study of
such phenoms.]

Orange is another matter; and I wonder if anyone out there has
any knowledge of its semiotic values, psychic and otherwise.

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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-25 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:57:51 -0500, Albert Gedraitis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps the leading use of blue on websites has to do
> with the psychology of the colour.  It is known that in dreams
> blue is a recurring phenom associated with comforting
> authority, and is often dominant in sleeping dreams,
> day dreams, and vivid externalized images (apparitions,
> hallucinations).  I have had dreams of my mother coming
> from the Interim State (I'm of Reformed Christian tradition,
> where "Heaven" is only a metaphor for the Interim State before
> the Resurrecton of the Body), and mostly attired in blue.
> Also, this kind of phenom is associated with appearances of
> the Blessed Virgin in Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions.
> 
> Not just any blue will do, however.  This comfort/authority
> deeply-embedded psychic phenom is more a sky-blue, not
> very dark, not very pale, not luminescent. [By "psychic," I
> don't limit myself to the more esoteric element, but indicate the
> whole spread of these types of phenom; I avoid "psychological"
> because that precisions a reference to the scientific study of
> such phenoms.]
> 
> Orange is another matter; and I wonder if anyone out there has
> any knowledge of its semiotic values, psychic and otherwise.
> 

>From a color theory standpoint, orange is a complement.  (a mix of the
other 2 primaries).  The way our eyes work (assuming normal color
vision) a color and it's complement will offset each other, making
both seem more vibrant and brighter.  (and a few other things when you
start blending them as well)

~j

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Professional Web Design

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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-25 Thread Albert Gedraitis
Perhaps the leading use of blue on websites has to do
with the psychology of the colour.  It is known that in dreams
blue is a recurring phenom associated with comforting
authority, and is often dominant in sleeping dreams,
day dreams, and vivid externalized images (apparitions,
hallucinations).  I have had dreams of my mother coming
from the Interim State (I'm of Reformed Christian tradition,
where "Heaven" is only a metaphor for the Interim State before
the Resurrecton of the Body), and mostly attired in blue.
Also, this kind of phenom is associated with appearances of
the Blessed Virgin in Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions.
Not just any blue will do, however.  This comfort/authority
deeply-embedded psychic phenom is more a sky-blue, not
very dark, not very pale, not luminescent. [By "psychic," I
don't limit myself to the more esoteric element, but indicate the
whole spread of these types of phenom; I avoid "psychological"
because that precisions a reference to the scientific study of
such phenoms.]
Orange is another matter; and I wonder if anyone out there has
any knowledge of its semiotic values, psychic and otherwise.
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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-25 Thread designer

- Original Message - 
From: "Ricci Angela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Orange and Blue

>What I have heard, there was some research and it turned out that blue
>and orange are best for branding. Blue has something to do with an
>image of serious, stable and respectful corporation, orange is for
>vitality and innovation.
>We've had a burst of not so innovative branding later on.

I confess I use a lot of orange in my designs (most of the time combined
with gray shades or blue). I do a lot of design for web applications that
have specific needs and constraints and, in this case, I think it is
important to combine cold and warm colors to create respectively neutral and
impressive zones/elements on the page. I have two reasons for using this
kind of color combination: first, I believe that most oranges are perfect
for the screen (it is kind of easy to create good contrast and lisibility,
they're not too flashy, they create a positive, gay environment); and
second: the other warm colors like red, pure yellow, violet, rose, etc are
hard to use. Elements and zones in red (specially for web applications) can
be interpreted as negative info or be too flashy. Pure yellow/light yellow
gives poor content contrast and on the screen it can be very flashy and
stressing. Violet and rose are far too much "stigmatized" and can be used
only in specif situations.
Of course I speak here very superficially. We can do wonderful things using
red or even rose (ok, this one I don't like...). The choice of colors are
always dependent on the site's/client's identity and on the overall desired
look-and-feel. But it is true that when I think about a dynamic, positive,
contemporary look-and-feel for a site, I think right away about orange/gray,
orange/blue.

Cheers!
Angela
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This is relevant to the discussion we had earlier this week about
systemnames. It is esp relevant for accessibility, insomuch as, e.g., if a
user with poor site adopts the 'high-contrast' background option in Windows,
it is highly likely that he/she will be delighted if that same scheme is
reflected in a web site. (which it would, if systemnames are used for
colours).

Just my (still intrigued by the potential of systemnames) 2p's worth.

Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk




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RE: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-25 Thread Ricci Angela


>What I have heard, there was some research and it turned out that blue
>and orange are best for branding. Blue has something to do with an
>image of serious, stable and respectful corporation, orange is for
>vitality and innovation.
>We've had a burst of not so innovative branding later on.

I confess I use a lot of orange in my designs (most of the time 
combined with gray shades or blue). I do a lot of design for web applications 
that have specific needs and constraints and, in this case, I think it is 
important to combine cold and warm colors to create respectively neutral and 
impressive zones/elements on the page. I have two reasons for using this kind 
of color combination: first, I believe that most oranges are perfect for the 
screen (it is kind of easy to create good contrast and lisibility, they're not 
too flashy, they create a positive, gay environment); and second: the other 
warm colors like red, pure yellow, violet, rose, etc are hard to use. Elements 
and zones in red (specially for web applications) can be interpreted as 
negative info or be too flashy. Pure yellow/light yellow gives poor content 
contrast and on the screen it can be very flashy and stressing. Violet and rose 
are far too much "stigmatized" and can be used only in specif situations.
Of course I speak here very superficially. We can do wonderful things 
using red or even rose (ok, this one I don't like...). The choice of colors are 
always dependent on the site's/client's identity and on the overall desired 
look-and-feel. But it is true that when I think about a dynamic, positive, 
contemporary look-and-feel for a site, I think right away about orange/gray, 
orange/blue.

Cheers!
Angela
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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-25 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:23:44 -0800, Rick Faaberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/24/05 3:16 PM "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out:
> 
> > Has anyone (else) noticed an increase in sites implementing primarily orange
> > and blue color schemes?  Is this for accessibility or other considerations, 
> > or
> > just the 2005 look?  It's getting annoying.
> 
> Aren't those the phpbb colors? And sort of "open source" colors?

What I have heard, there was some research and it turned out that blue
and orange are best for branding. Blue has something to do with an
image of serious, stable and respectful corporation, orange is for
vitality and innovation.
We've had a burst of not so innovative branding later on.

Regards,
Rimantas
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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-24 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:23:44 -0800, Rick Faaberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

On 2/24/05 3:16 PM "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out:
Has anyone (else) noticed an increase in sites implementing primarily  
orange
and blue color schemes?  Is this for accessibility or other  
considerations, or
just the 2005 look?  It's getting annoying.
Aren't those the phpbb colors? And sort of "open source" colors?
Rick Faaberg
No. Google says: The Orange and Blue Observer; and, Orange and Blue Travel.
Forgive me, I couldn't resist.
David
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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-24 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:16:40 -0800, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Has anyone (else) noticed an increase in sites implementing primarily
orange and blue color schemes?  Is this for accessibility or other
considerations, or just the 2005 look?  It's getting annoying.
I enjoy them thoroughly, particularly the rush I get when disabling color.
David
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Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-24 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 2/24/05 3:16 PM "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out:

> Has anyone (else) noticed an increase in sites implementing primarily orange
> and blue color schemes?  Is this for accessibility or other considerations, or
> just the 2005 look?  It's getting annoying.

Aren't those the phpbb colors? And sort of "open source" colors?

Rick Faaberg

Ps. Everybody stop sending HTML email to here okay? I, for one, usually
immediately delete such mail without reading it since normally the font is
way too small. Sorry for the negativity.

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RE: [WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-24 Thread Ted Drake



orange 
and blue are complementary colors and will grab your attention. It's why the 
colors are often used in sports. If you want to be really annoying, go with 
a  purple background with yellow text.
 
complementary colors are good in small doses, if you have a blue bar and 
want the purchase button to stand out, go for the orange color, we have this in 
a muted style at http://www.csatravelprotection.com. 
compare it to http://www.csavg40.com where 
the orange button doesn't stand out as much on the green side 
bar.
 
From a 
standards point, it isn't that significant. From an accessibility standpoint, 
you should be careful with some color blind people.  Green and red are 
complementary colors but of the same value, so they don't stand out much in 
black and white.
 
For 
more information on complementary colors, check out Color Theory by J. Itten. 
Its the bible for color theory and is available at your local 
library.
 
Ted
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  -Original Message-From: John 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 24, 
  2005 3:17 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] 
  Orange and BlueHas anyone (else) noticed an increase in 
  sites implementing primarily orange and blue color schemes?  Is this for 
  accessibility or other considerations, or just the 2005 look?  It's 
  getting annoying.


[WSG] Orange and Blue

2005-02-24 Thread John




Has anyone (else) noticed an increase in sites implementing primarily
orange and blue color schemes?  Is this for accessibility or other
considerations, or just the 2005 look?  It's getting annoying.