[wsjt-devel] wsjt FH vs. clone's

2023-09-28 Thread F6BHK via wsjt-devel

Hi there,

Please forgive me if you find this irrelevant. I can't resist:

Why it matters (at least for me): A DX-pedition is tx-ing and I "need" 
this country for my DXCC (or whatever). He runs F/H with WSJT-X. I get 
through within 3 to 4 calls. Happy bunny, I log the QSO. He runs a 
clone. I never get through!


What to watch: I have got a report from ZL7IO within 10 min calling from 
EU. believe me: ZL7 from EU is NOT easy. I could not get a report from 
5B4AMX (a neighborough of sort) using a clone althought I called many times!


Please DX-peditionners, ALWAYS USE F/H, it is far far more efficient 
than anything else!


Cheers

Serge





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Re: [wsjt-devel] ANNOUNCEMENT: update_wsjtx_log.py version 1.1.1 released

2021-03-08 Thread F6BHK

I cannot agree more

This subject deserves its own environment. Please keep it away from the 
devel list


73, Serge

On 08/03/2021 23:13, Joe Taylor wrote:

Hi Dave,

I was not looking for confrontation, at all.  Just looking to help you 
and all readers of this list to have convenient access to the 
information you're most interested in, on the appropriate list.


-- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 3/8/2021 2:21 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:

K1JT:

Are you stating this as a personal opinion, or as the moderator of 
the wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> mailing list?


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On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joe Taylor <mailto:j...@princeton.edu>> wrote:


    Hi all,

    Perhaps it's time to move discussion of "update_wsjtx_log.py" onto
    another email list.  Other WSJT-related software, including 
derivative

    programs (JTDX, MSHV, JS8Call, ...) as well as cooperative programs
    (JTAlert, ...) have their own lists, and these distinctions serve 
all

    users well.

    As its name suggests, the wsjt-devel email reflector is devoted to
    development of WSJT(-X) and its immediate sister programs.

         -- 73, Joe, K1JT



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[wsjt-devel] No TX1, no chocolate

2020-05-14 Thread F6BHK

A reminder to those of us using non-standard call:

When you don't use TX1 you don't make QSO

190130  Tx  2712 ~  EA3BCX F6BHK JN24
190115  -3  0.3 2426 ~  F6BHK <...>
190215  -7  0.2 2436 ~  F6BHK <...>
190300 -11  0.9 1490 ~  CQ IT9DBN JM77



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Suggestion

2019-08-09 Thread F6BHK

Hi Joe,

Thank you for your answer.

Cheers

Serge


On 09/08/2019 00:36, Joe Taylor wrote:

Hi Serge,

On 8/8/2019 17:31, Serge F6BHK wrote:
at the dawn of WSJT-X we had the choice to decode JT65+JT9 under the 
same combo value. I remember I found it very useful. When I 
double-clicked a JT65 signal then I was sending using JT65, same for 
JT9.


would'nt it be nice to have a FT8+FT4 combo value that decode both of 
the protocols and set the Xmit side of WSJT-X accordingly?


Because their T/R sequence lengths are different, FT4 and FT8 are not 
amenable to the convenient dual-mode decoding scheme that was useful 
for JT65 and JT9.


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[wsjt-devel] Suggestion

2019-08-08 Thread F6BHK

Hi all!

at the dawn of WSJT-X we had the choice to decode JT65+JT9 under the 
same combo value. I remember I found it very useful. When I 
double-clicked a JT65 signal then I was sending using JT65, same for JT9.


would'nt it be nice to have a FT8+FT4 combo value that decode both of 
the protocols and set the Xmit side of WSJT-X accordingly?


Just a suggestion

Cheers

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Re: [wsjt-devel] UDP message type 4 on RR73 message

2019-07-31 Thread F6BHK

Thanks Bill for your answer

GN

73

Serge


On 31/07/2019 22:10, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 31/07/2019 20:56, F6BHK wrote:
Can someone confirm it's part of the dev team fight against automated 
robot or a misunderstanding from my own? 


Hi Serge,

your assumption is correct.

73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 bug/oddity.

2019-07-31 Thread F6BHK

It's not a bug. Just a false decode


On 31/07/2019 21:11, Topher Petty wrote:

I had an interesting one today...

Got a call from 2W2UHM/P grid square RA74 (I know, unlikely), which 
terminated oddly...
By "terminated oddly" I mean the station "called" me, the software 
auto-replied RR73, and the log window popped up...


I went ahead and logged it, "just in case", but.. it's still odd...

Attached is the screenshot and a copypasta of the logged contact.

Not really sure what happened here, where the signal reports came 
from, or any of that... Unfortuately, I wasn't saving .wav files at 
the time.


2W2UHM/P RA74 MFSK FT4 
-13 -04 20190731 174731 
20190731 174745 20m 
14.081654 AI8W EN82JG 
FT4 50W Sent: -13  Rcvd: -04 




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[wsjt-devel] UDP message type 4 on RR73 message

2019-07-31 Thread F6BHK

Howdy ?


Long time no email ;-)

The doc says UDP type 4 is as if I double clicked into the Band Activity 
window.


It is correct when the message is a CQ or a QRZ as highlighted into 
NetworkMessage.hpp file.


When I double click on a message "foo fuu RR73" in the Band Activity 
window, WSJT-X put the line into the RX Frequency window, prepare the 
message with fuu and send the appropriate CAT commands to call fuu. 
Allright.


But when I send a UDP type 4 message for this very same "foo fuu RR73", 
WSJT-X put the line into the RX Frequency window, prepare the message 
with fuu and DO NOT send CAT commands so I don't call fuu. Too bad! 
It looks like a failure or a refusal to act (please Freud: forgive me...)


Or I miss something somewhere.

Can someone confirm it's part of the dev team fight against automated 
robot or a misunderstanding from my own?


Thank you

Cheers

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level

2019-04-30 Thread F6BHK
Please be considerate of others. We don't speak or understand english 
very well but are venting our ideas on this list in good faith.


Else simply delist all foreigners

73

Serge F6BHK


On 30/04/2019 21:10, Joe Taylor wrote:
Please read messages to the list before sending your own on the same 
topic!


Please read the announcement abou -rc5:

"Windows users will discover that WSJT-X v2.1.0 has been made 
available as a 64-bit MS Windows build for 64-bit versions of Windows 
since Vista. This version has one known defect. The audio input device 
level will be reset to 100% when WSJT-X is started, when the input 
audio device is changed, and when switching to a new configuration. 
This is a Qt framework defect that we have reported and is being fixed 
in a future release; until then users should take care to set the 
device audio level back to 0dB or lower depending on requirements. 
Note that many sound cards and chips have real gain ahead of the ADC, 
as much as 14dB, which will be turned to the maximum due to this 
defect and is usually undesirable when using WSJT-X.


"Despite this annoying defect, we recommend the 64-bit version of 
WSJT-X on MS Windows as it has significant advantages in decoding speed."


-- 73, Joe, K1JT


On 4/30/2019 14:53, Enrique Scheuer wrote:

Same problem here with the same operational conditions.

de Enrique
PY2CP

Em ter, 30 de abr de 2019 às 15:31, Paul Kube <mailto:paul.k...@gmail.com>> escreveu:


Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec
that the IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input):

miclevel.png

It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to
set it to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X  2.0.1 did not have this issue.

Windows 10 Pro x64 here.

73, Paul K6PO


On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel
mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:

Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management
panel?  Or the % level?
WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing 
it.


Recording audio should be at 0dB.

de Mike W9MDB




On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via
wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:


It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on 
restart.

Mike/kf8my



-Original Message-
From: Joe, LB1HI mailto:jo...@lb1hi.no>>
To: wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am
Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input 
level


Hi,
Another observed  drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart,
previously
pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound 
card

changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum  -
100% of
the  level setting range.

73`s Joe



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Add generic webservice client to the QSO send program.

2019-03-14 Thread F6BHK

You don't answer Jim's questioning.

Besides, Bill gave you a quick view on UDP msg. And  I cannot agree more.

UDP msg give us all what we need to know about WSJT insides. Why would 
we need something else?


73

Serge


On 14/03/2019 12:19, Bastien F4EYQ wrote:

On 2019-03-13 17:59, Jim Brown wrote:

On 3/13/2019 7:11 AM, Bastien F4EYQ wrote:
I've develop a "Radio Cloud" for ham people, This cloud purpose a 
logbook "online"


LOTW and eQSL work quite well. Why do we need another one?

73, Jim K9YC


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Hello Jim,

A quote is always better than a bad answer :

"We always have the choice. We are indeed the product of our choices."
Joseph O'Connor


73 Bastien.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H sequence

2019-03-14 Thread F6BHK
The line that contains RR73 suggest you were not in F/H but in QSO with 
a JTDX user. This is a WSJT-X clone with some mods one of which being to 
merge RR73 to previous QSO with report for the next QSO.


73,

Serge


On 13/03/2019 23:36, Steven Franke via wsjt-devel wrote:

Hi Pino,

You called the DX on 1321 Hz offset. Then, the DX responded to you 
with report +00. If you were operating as a Hound, then your next 
transmission should have been at 303 Hz. Instead, you transmitted your 
“R-20” again at 1321 offset. This behavior suggests that you were not 
operating as a “Hound”. Can you verify that you had selected “Hound” 
and that “Special operating activity” was checked?


73 Steve, k9an

On Mar 13, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Pino Zollo <mailto:pinozo...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Wrong sequence: WSJT 2.0.1 does not realize having received RR73 and 
replies with R-20


I had to force by hand the 73

I have seen this fact 3 times with different F/H stations.

73

Pino ZP4KFX

20415 Tx 1321 ~ 7P8LB ZP4KFX GG14
220430 -20 0.0 303 ~ ZP4KFX 7P8LB +00 ? a3
220445 Tx 1321 ~ 7P8LB ZP4KFX R-20
220500 -18 0.0 303 ~ DK6IM 7P8LB -17
220515 Tx 1321 ~ 7P8LB ZP4KFX R-20
220530 -18 0.5 302 ~ ZP4KFX RR73; DK6IM <7P8LB> -18
220545 Tx 1321 ~ 7P8LB ZP4KFX R-20
220548 Tx 1321 ~ 7P8LB ZP4KFX 73

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[wsjt-devel] probably another hash mixup

2019-01-04 Thread F6BHK

Hi there

Well, It might be of help: another hash mixup issue probably. No answer 
needed.


Here is the QSO

225200   0 -1.3 2868 ~  CQ JT/PD0LK
225217  Tx  2868 ~   F6BHK
225245  Tx  2868 ~   F6BHK
225300  -3 -1.3 2868 ~  F6BHK  -08
225315  Tx  2868 ~   F6BHK
225330  -8 -1.3 2868 ~   JT/PD0LK RRR
225415  Tx  2868 ~  JT/PD0LK  73

looks like JT/PD0LK and EB8AC collide.

For what it's worth


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Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso

2018-12-25 Thread F6BHK

Thanks Bill. Understand.

Merry Xmas

Cheers

Serge


On 25/12/2018 17:23, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 25/12/2018 15:29, F6BHK wrote:

151630 -17  0.4 1694 ~  CQ 4X19HNY
151646  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK
151715  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK
151730 -17  0.4 1694 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22
151745  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17
151815  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17
151800 -22  0.4 1693 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22
151816  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22
151845  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22
151900 -19  0.3 1693 ~  <...> 4X19HNY RR73
151915 -16  1.1 1694 ~  <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15

in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I 
would have expected <...> being  instead.


Hi Serge,

this is another variant on the known issue with hash collisions in 
WSJT-X v2.0.0. In this case the first message you receive with your 
callsign hashed:


151900 -19  0.3 1693 ~  <...> 4X19HNY RR73

is not printed correctly because WSJT-X has not stored your own 
callsign in the relevant hash table (not a hash collision but a 
missing hash code mapping to you callsign). Although it is not clear 
you can be quite certain that 4X19HNY has copied your call correctly 
since it was sent in full during the QSO in the message:


151730 -17  0.4 1694 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22

I would log the QSO as it almost 100% certain that the sign off 
message sent by 4X19HNY was " 4X19HNY RR73" and it will be in 
his log.


This issue is resolved for the next release of WSJT-X.

73 & Merry Christmas
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Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso

2018-12-25 Thread F6BHK

Dan

Thank you for your answer, however my questioning is on the software 
side, not on the call itself.


With the following messages from WSJT-X, I feel - I can be wrong, but - 
I feel that I cannot decide whether the QSO is completed or not 
completed. See, the last message I read from the 4X station is not clear 
as to whether this message is for me or for someone else.



73

Serge


On 25/12/2018 17:14, Dan Malcolm wrote:

A search of QRZ found 4X19HNY and there is a pointer to their live log on
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-Original Message-
From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 AM
To: WSJT software development 
Subject: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso

Merry Xmas to all!

The following QSO seems to me "strange":

151630 -17  0.4 1694 ~  CQ 4X19HNY
151646  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK
151715  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK
151730 -17  0.4 1694 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22
151745  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17
151815  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17
151800 -22  0.4 1693 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22
151816  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22
151845  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22
151900 -19  0.3 1693 ~  <...> 4X19HNY RR73
151915 -16  1.1 1694 ~  <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15

in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would
have expected <...> being  instead.

73

Serge




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[wsjt-devel] strange non-qso

2018-12-25 Thread F6BHK

Merry Xmas to all!

The following QSO seems to me "strange":

151630 -17  0.4 1694 ~  CQ 4X19HNY
151646  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK
151715  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK
151730 -17  0.4 1694 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22
151745  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17
151815  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17
151800 -22  0.4 1693 ~  F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22
151816  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22
151845  Tx  1694 ~  <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22
151900 -19  0.3 1693 ~  <...> 4X19HNY RR73
151915 -16  1.1 1694 ~  <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15

in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would 
have expected <...> being  instead.


73

Serge


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Question on UDP message in v2

2018-12-13 Thread F6BHK
clear. thanks a million Bill for the info.
cheers
serge

Envoyé de mon iPad

> Le 13 déc. 2018 à 19:16, Bill Somerville  a écrit :
> 
>> On 13/12/2018 17:37, F6BHK wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> A quick question on "Status" UDP messages sent by WSJT-X v2.
>> 
>> WSJT sent me a message where the length of the DXCall is -1. This is new for 
>> me: I didn't notice this behavior in v 1.9.1.
>> 
>> Here is an example of the frame after a conversion to hex :
>> 
>> [000b57534a542d58202d207632009aa9c346543800032d313500034654380105dc05dc0005463642484b00064a4e3234697800]
>>  
>> 
>> See after the mode (FT8) I have , then follows the report in UTF8 
>> format.
>> 
>> It looks to me I should have received a UTF8 string instead of . 
>> Well I might have misinterpreted the NetworkMessage.hpp contents where 
>> DXCall is UTF8 formatted between the mode and the report.
>> 
>> Or is it a way to deal with empty string?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Serge
> 
> Hi Serge,
> 
> as documented here http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/datastreamformat.html the 
> serialization of a QString variable can have a length of 0x (it is 
> unsigned) and that signifies a null value. You may wish to treat zero-length 
> and null strings as equivalent as mentioned in the documentation here: 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/NetworkMessage.hpp#l42 in 
> the second paragraph down.
> 
> A null or empty DX Call field in s a status update simply means the DX Call 
> field is empty or has just been cleared.
> 
> 73
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[wsjt-devel] Highlighting calls in WSJT-X

2018-07-25 Thread F6BHK

Hello.

Thanks to Saku, OH1KH, I am able to add colours to the Band Activity 
window of WSJT-X.


The colours change with criteria such as new DXCC, per band or all time, 
etc.


It works perfectly well. Thanks a lot for that.

Now, I use also the line highlighting from settings->Colors. Because I 
modify the bg colour when highlighting calls through UDP messages, the 
line is frequently painted with different bg colours, and that is 
neither nice to see nor useful... but it is eyes catching!


My question: is there a way to set the line bg colours by the UDP type 
13 message?


Also, it seems to me that calls highlighted remain highlighted on band 
change. This fails the objective of DXCC per band signalisation.


My question: is there an option/checkbox somewhere that would reset all 
the colours set to default values when changing band or mode?



Thank you for your answers.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers

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[wsjt-devel] Highlight call: would need some help

2018-07-20 Thread F6BHK
Hi there,

Again, I am in the dark.

I serialised a UDP frame from my server to WSJT-X as below:

> adbccbda0002000c000657534a542d5800054c5831484400ff00ad00ff00


This frame is sent to WSJT-X in order to:

Highlight the call LX1HD in colour #00ad00 with alpha = 1 on a background 
#00 with alpha = 1.

Of course, the frame is sent as a binary string. The representation above has 
been translated into hex so as to be printable.

I must do something wrong… I don’t know what!

Any feedback welcome

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[wsjt-devel] Build wsjt-x on Debian

2018-05-25 Thread F6BHK
Hi there,

I successfully built wsjt-x on Debian Stretch yesterday. The existing INSTALL 
file is not up-to-date. You guys might be interested by the steps I had to go 
through in order to build wsjt-x.

Starting from a fresh Stretch install (Debian 9.4): (apt-get update + upgrade + 
dist-upgrade Stretch)

I could not find build-essentials in the repo (I seem to remember that name but 
that was a very long time ago), so I had to:
apt-get install gcc g++ fortran cmake (lowercase; CMake does not exist) texinfo 
libtool automake (autoreconf is not a package)
apt-get install git subversion (svn is not a package) asciidoc asciidocto 
pkg-config
apt-get install qt5.7 qt5libmultimedia-dev qt5widgets qt5base5-dev 
qtmultimedia5-dev libqtseriqlport5 lib5qt5serialport5-dev
apt-get libudev-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev fftw3-3-dev libfftw3-dev

default versions of gcc/g++ is gcc6.

When you local repo is updated, then (as detailed in the INSTALL)
get source: wget —no-ckeck-certificates https://physics/wsjtx-1.9.0-rc4.tgz 
and untar in your 
build: cmake —build 
install cmake —build  —target install

et hop !

done (it took a night to a "VIA Epia" cell with 1Gb mem and 500Gb disk to 
complete)

There is a big load of warnings when compiling the fortran source files but I 
saw something about that on the reflector some days ago.

Cheers
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

2018-04-07 Thread F6BHK

Hi there

I found the use of the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page was a very good 
idea, and useful and working well!


I was able to hear steadily the first fox W1/KH7Z. Gave him a series of 
call from 1402 Z (since the fox was late... never saw this case in real 
life - I share my sofa with 2 Spanish greyhounds - galgos - and the 
rabbits always hope the hounds will be late) till 1410 Z to no avail. I 
had put my TX above 3500Hz; nobody was TXing up there.


Then from 1410 till 1430 I tries to move my freq between 2500Hz and 
4000Hz. That led me to nowhere.


Then the bugs hit the fox and he gave up. Too bad, for I never heard his 
Stand-in partner.


As for the W7/KH7Z fox, I never ever heard him calling. I guess the 
propag was not top level and my low range station (Flex 5000A running 
abt 90W max into a vertical R7) was not efficient enough to get my 
signal cross half our world.


But I stayed listening.

I find that I heard a lot of people calling and sending reports, however 
I find that the number of RR73 were not as numerous as they should have 
been.


I was surprised to "see" in the waterfall the fox's sigs (up to 
'yellowish' dots) whilst there were no decode at all.


All in all a very frustrating experience, I hope it'll be for the good!

Cheers
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Premature use of FT8 DXpedition Mode

2018-03-29 Thread F6BHK
We are all experimenters. Give us a tool that is new and we will use it 
and shake it until it exhauts.


You know we would use the DXp  side of WSJT-X as soon as you released 
it. Because it's new, because it's shining, because it's what we 
expected, because we don't know what to expect but we are curious.


Comme on: you release the monster... now you know that we will not 
listen to reason: it is your responsibility to limit the effect of the 
beast, for your developers' team has got the means to do it.


Now, I shall be on the aire on April 7th to shake the ether.

See ya

Serge



On 29/03/2018 21:15, Joe Taylor wrote:
Everyone paying attention should already know what's contained in this 
message -- but it's clear that some do not.


The current General Availability (GA) release of WSJT-X is v1.8.0.  
That program version does not include FT8 DXpedition Mode.


We have made beta-level "release candidates" available for the 
explicit purpose of testing FT8 DXpedition Mode.  The release 
candidates have included cautionary warnings to the effect that in its 
present form, DXpedition Mode should be used only for controlled testing.


A few operators or groups have ignored our warnings and tried to use 
FT8 DXpedition Mode in true pileup situations.  The consequences are 
predictably bad -- especially when the offending operator(s) have 
chosen their frequencies badly and other operators are using a mix of 
program versions including v1.8.0, v1.9.0-rc2, v1.9.0-rc3, some 
version of JTDX.


FT8 DXpedition Mode is not yet ready for “production” use. Until 
WSJT-X v1.9.0 is fully released -- not a beta-level "release 
candidate", but a full General Availability release -- DXpedition Mode 
should be used only in controlled test situations.


The next public test of FT8 DXpedition Mode conducted by the WSJT 
Development Group will be conducted on April 7, a little over a week 
from now.  You are cordially invited to join us for this test.  See 
the announcement posted here yesterday (Subject: WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3: 
Testing of FT8 DXpedition Mode) for details.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Premature use of FT8 DXpedition Mode

2018-03-29 Thread F6BHK
And about the expedition using DXp without the authorization of the 
development team (and who did not read the readme file either):


I find, for one, that they are doing a very good job. They found how to 
publicize their expedition (freq and time),


and, with the number of bugs in the app, they manage to give a 
significant number of ham reports.


look to me people you should ask how they did it! Just in case you are 
walking down an improvement process.


Cheers

Serge



On 29/03/2018 21:15, Joe Taylor wrote:
Everyone paying attention should already know what's contained in this 
message -- but it's clear that some do not.


The current General Availability (GA) release of WSJT-X is v1.8.0.  
That program version does not include FT8 DXpedition Mode.


We have made beta-level "release candidates" available for the 
explicit purpose of testing FT8 DXpedition Mode.  The release 
candidates have included cautionary warnings to the effect that in its 
present form, DXpedition Mode should be used only for controlled testing.


A few operators or groups have ignored our warnings and tried to use 
FT8 DXpedition Mode in true pileup situations.  The consequences are 
predictably bad -- especially when the offending operator(s) have 
chosen their frequencies badly and other operators are using a mix of 
program versions including v1.8.0, v1.9.0-rc2, v1.9.0-rc3, some 
version of JTDX.


FT8 DXpedition Mode is not yet ready for “production” use. Until 
WSJT-X v1.9.0 is fully released -- not a beta-level "release 
candidate", but a full General Availability release -- DXpedition Mode 
should be used only in controlled test situations.


The next public test of FT8 DXpedition Mode conducted by the WSJT 
Development Group will be conducted on April 7, a little over a week 
from now.  You are cordially invited to join us for this test.  See 
the announcement posted here yesterday (Subject: WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3: 
Testing of FT8 DXpedition Mode) for details.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Request for the mod of UDP type 4 message

2018-03-26 Thread F6BHK

I understand.

Sorry

Cheers

Serge


On 27/03/2018 01:50, Bill Somerville wrote:

Hi Serge,

I understand your approach but unless you are monitoring all modes the 
decodes from WSJT-X alone will not give you enough information to pick 
a clear frequency to transmit on. I still assert that the waterfall is 
the best way to do that. For example if you are on 20m or 40m and 
allow your search for a clear spot to look up to 2700Hz as you 
originally suggested then transmitting on top of a JT65 QSY would not 
be welcome!


73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 27/03/2018 00:35, F6BHK wrote:


Hi Bill,

My server calculates the best Tx frequency for a given QSO using the 
DECODE messages.


My rig is a Flex 5000A connected to a PC that is dedicated to run it. 
That same PC hosts the WSJT-X client that broadcasts UDP messages to 
tell an iMac running my logging program what's happening on the band. 
This equipment is in my shack.


I am with my family and friends in the living room sitting in the 
sofa talking as if I was a "normal" guy (I mean non-ham of course!). 
But I use an iPad to join a multicast group connected to the server. 
The iPad is served with the CQ and QRZ messages from 
countries/zone/counties/grid I have defined as a must-have. I click 
on the one I need as soon as it comes by. From time to time I know 
that I'll lost the hold on my Tx freq, or it'll become inappropriate. 
Our FT8 segment is, from EU, very busy sometimes. But my server 
calculates using the DECODE messages the best Tx Freq to use. AND


AND

It wants to send this Tx DF with the type 4 message corresponding to 
the QSO to initiate. Holy s***, today it can't!


Hope I am clear: I don't want to make a robot from WSJT-X. I am not 
interested in automatic QSO. I just want to sip my pale ale (I spent 
a lot of time in Newcastle) while making FT8 contacts.


Thank you for your feedback and goodwill.

Cheers

Serge


On 27/03/2018 00:56, Bill Somerville wrote:

Hi Serge,

all you need do is leave "Hold Tx Freq" checked and SHIFT+click on 
the waterfall in a clear spot, you only need to do this once or 
until you loose your clear frequency. Where is a better place to 
choose a good Tx frequency other than the WSJT-X waterfall?


73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 26/03/2018 23:50, F6BHK wrote:

Good evening Bill,

Sorry I don't buy your argument: should I have to prepare my QSO on 
the WSJT-X client (in order to use the Hold Tx Freq and to input 
the Tx DF value on the client) I don't need a UDP type 4 message 
any more: I use my keyboard and that's it.


My need for a modified type 4 is driven by the opportunity to 
initiate the QSO remotely. This is why the type 4 message is 
precious... but I find it incomplete: it should, I believe, permit 
the user to choose the DF for a split.


Please reconsider

Cheers

Serge


On 27/03/2018 00:09, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 25/03/2018 23:35, F6BHK wrote:


I wish I could specify a DF for TX with the UDP type 4 messsage 
different from that of the DECODE message.


Rational behind this request is:

- When I prepare a response to a CQ, I have to check whether the 
freq used for TX is clear or busy. When busy, it is strongly 
recommended to choose a clearer one within the 2.7 KHz bandwidth 
to avoid QRM.


- The most accepted FT8 operating procedures (by ZL2IFB - The FT8 
operating Guide) specify that the best way to go is using split 
mode, and that makes sensesince the FT8 quarter seems to be more 
and more crowded with the growing success of this mode.


I think that allowing the DF TX field in the message of type 4 to 
be different from that of the original CQ would make the 
initiation of a response to a decode message in line with our 
accepted operating procedures and participate to the limitation 
of the QRM.



Listening...

Cheers

Serge 


Hi Serge,

the "Hold Tx "Freq" check box on the WSJT-X main window already 
fills this requirement.


73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Request for the mod of UDP type 4 message

2018-03-26 Thread F6BHK

Hi Bill,

My server calculates the best Tx frequency for a given QSO using the 
DECODE messages.


My rig is a Flex 5000A connected to a PC that is dedicated to run it. 
That same PC hosts the WSJT-X client that broadcasts UDP messages to 
tell an iMac running my logging program what's happening on the band. 
This equipment is in my shack.


I am with my family and friends in the living room sitting in the sofa 
talking as if I was a "normal" guy (I mean non-ham of course!). But I 
use an iPad to join a multicast group connected to the server. The iPad 
is served with the CQ and QRZ messages from countries/zone/counties/grid 
I have defined as a must-have. I click on the one I need as soon as it 
comes by. From time to time I know that I'll lost the hold on my Tx 
freq, or it'll become inappropriate. Our FT8 segment is, from EU, very 
busy sometimes. But my server calculates using the DECODE messages the 
best Tx Freq to use. AND


AND

It wants to send this Tx DF with the type 4 message corresponding to the 
QSO to initiate. Holy s***, today it can't!


Hope I am clear: I don't want to make a robot from WSJT-X. I am not 
interested in automatic QSO. I just want to sip my pale ale (I spent a 
lot of time in Newcastle) while making FT8 contacts.


Thank you for your feedback and goodwill.

Cheers

Serge


On 27/03/2018 00:56, Bill Somerville wrote:

Hi Serge,

all you need do is leave "Hold Tx Freq" checked and SHIFT+click on the 
waterfall in a clear spot, you only need to do this once or until you 
loose your clear frequency. Where is a better place to choose a good 
Tx frequency other than the WSJT-X waterfall?


73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 26/03/2018 23:50, F6BHK wrote:

Good evening Bill,

Sorry I don't buy your argument: should I have to prepare my QSO on 
the WSJT-X client (in order to use the Hold Tx Freq and to input the 
Tx DF value on the client) I don't need a UDP type 4 message any 
more: I use my keyboard and that's it.


My need for a modified type 4 is driven by the opportunity to 
initiate the QSO remotely. This is why the type 4 message is 
precious... but I find it incomplete: it should, I believe, permit 
the user to choose the DF for a split.


Please reconsider

Cheers

Serge


On 27/03/2018 00:09, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 25/03/2018 23:35, F6BHK wrote:


I wish I could specify a DF for TX with the UDP type 4 messsage 
different from that of the DECODE message.


Rational behind this request is:

- When I prepare a response to a CQ, I have to check whether the 
freq used for TX is clear or busy. When busy, it is strongly 
recommended to choose a clearer one within the 2.7 KHz bandwidth to 
avoid QRM.


- The most accepted FT8 operating procedures (by ZL2IFB - The FT8 
operating Guide) specify that the best way to go is using split 
mode, and that makes sensesince the FT8 quarter seems to be more 
and more crowded with the growing success of this mode.


I think that allowing the DF TX field in the message of type 4 to 
be different from that of the original CQ would make the initiation 
of a response to a decode message in line with our accepted 
operating procedures and participate to the limitation of the QRM.



Listening...

Cheers

Serge 


Hi Serge,

the "Hold Tx "Freq" check box on the WSJT-X main window already 
fills this requirement.


73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Request for the mod of UDP type 4 message

2018-03-26 Thread F6BHK

Good evening Bill,

Sorry I don't buy your argument: should I have to prepare my QSO on the 
WSJT-X client (in order to use the Hold Tx Freq and to input the Tx DF 
value on the client) I don't need a UDP type 4 message any more: I use 
my keyboard and that's it.


My need for a modified type 4 is driven by the opportunity to initiate 
the QSO remotely. This is why the type 4 message is precious... but I 
find it incomplete: it should, I believe, permit the user to choose the 
DF for a split.


Please reconsider

Cheers

Serge


On 27/03/2018 00:09, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 25/03/2018 23:35, F6BHK wrote:


I wish I could specify a DF for TX with the UDP type 4 messsage 
different from that of the DECODE message.


Rational behind this request is:

- When I prepare a response to a CQ, I have to check whether the freq 
used for TX is clear or busy. When busy, it is strongly recommended 
to choose a clearer one within the 2.7 KHz bandwidth to avoid QRM.


- The most accepted FT8 operating procedures (by ZL2IFB - The FT8 
operating Guide) specify that the best way to go is using split mode, 
and that makes sensesince the FT8 quarter seems to be more and more 
crowded with the growing success of this mode.


I think that allowing the DF TX field in the message of type 4 to be 
different from that of the original CQ would make the initiation of a 
response to a decode message in line with our accepted operating 
procedures and participate to the limitation of the QRM.



Listening...

Cheers

Serge 


Hi Serge,

the "Hold Tx "Freq" check box on the WSJT-X main window already fills 
this requirement.


73
Bill
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[wsjt-devel] Request for the mod of UDP type 4 message

2018-03-25 Thread F6BHK

Hello dear developers,

I wish I could specify a DF for TX with the UDP type 4 messsage 
different from that of the DECODE message.


Rational behind this request is:

- When I prepare a response to a CQ, I have to check whether the freq 
used for TX is clear or busy. When busy, it is strongly recommended to 
choose a clearer one within the 2.7 KHz bandwidth to avoid QRM.


- The most accepted FT8 operating procedures (by ZL2IFB - The FT8 
operating Guide) specify that the best way to go is using split mode, 
and that makes sensesince the FT8 quarter seems to be more and more 
crowded with the growing success of this mode.


I think that allowing the DF TX field in the message of type 4 to be 
different from that of the original CQ would make the initiation of a 
response to a decode message in line with our accepted operating 
procedures and participate to the limitation of the QRM.



Listening...

Cheers

Serge

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[wsjt-devel] SOLVED: Difficulties to get WSJT-X to accept UDP type 4 message from server

2018-03-24 Thread F6BHK

Good day,

My server works in sync with WSJT-X now.

My mistakes might be of interest for others, so I wish to share this 
conclusion with you.


First of all, I wish to thank David, Laurie VK3AMA, Brian and Bill G4WJS 
for their suggestions to my previous messages.


They gave me feedbacks that made me identify 4 mistakes. A brilliant 
demonstration of team value!


- First one was a misuse of QTime type: at one line of my code I had 
forgotten that QTime is NOT Unix time.


- Second a mix-up of hex code in utf8 where ascii was expected.

- Third a complete misunderstanding of this sentence: "the message 
exactly describes a prior decode" that lead me to substitute the CQ in 
the DECODE message by my call. I should not have modified the message text.


- Last was the socket sendto sending to the multicast address instead of 
the client IP address. I was expecting WSJT-X to listen for diagrams on 
the multicast group.



Thank a lot again for the efficient help.

Cheers

Serge


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[wsjt-devel] More on Difficulties to get WSJT-X to accept UDP type 4 message from server

2018-03-22 Thread F6BHK

I have digged deeper in my problem:

a) Network infra: The server uses a multicast group. There is no router 
between the WSJT-X client and the server; only a switch. I have verified 
with tcpdump on both sides that the packet are seen by both camps.


b) I have written a quick PHP client that I have plugged on the same 
network as the server and the WSJT-X client. The server and the PHP 
client establish a 2 way dialog with no pain. The WSJT-X client stays 
deaf. However it speaks as expected.


For example, I receive this DECODE message from WSJT-X:

2018/03/22 20:07:59 server.php - Received 66 bytes from remote IP: 
192.168.60.53:63580

2018/03/22 20:07:59 server.php magic binary : [adbccbda]
2018/03/22 20:07:59 server.php schema binary : [0002]
2018/03/22 20:07:59 server.php type of message binary : [0002]
2018/03/22 20:07:59 server.php DECODE id : [0006: WSJT-X]
2018/03/22 20:07:59 server.php DECODE new : [01]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE time : [72465000 -> 20:07:45]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE snr : [ffef -> 0010 -> -17]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE delta time : [3fd9a000 -> 
0.4000596046]

2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE delta : [1703 Hz]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE mode : [0001: ~]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE message : [000c: CQ K1VK FN42]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE Low confidence : [00]
2018/03/22 20:08:00 server.php DECODE Off air : [00]

The server asks WSJT-X to initiate a response with this message:

2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X id : [00064c4f47474552 
size: 0006]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X time : [0451ba68 -> 
0451ba68 -> 20:07:45]

2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X snr : [ffef -> -17]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X deltatime : 
[3fd9a000 -> 0.4000596046]

2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X delta : [06a7 -> 1703 Hz]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X mode : [00017e]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X message : 
[000f4b31564b20463642484b204a4e3234 -> len: 000F -> K1VK F6BHK JN24]

2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X lowconfidence : [00]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X modifiers : [00]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X frame : 
[adbccbda0002000400064c4f474745520451ba68ffef3fd9a6a700017e000f4b31564b20463642484b204a4e3234]
2018/03/22 20:08:29 server.php SEND TO WSJT-X frame envoyee : [68 bytes, 
239.73.0.0:2237 UDP: 68]


WSJT-X ignore the message. But the PHP client decodes it no worries:

client.php - FRAME 09 --
client.php - Received 68 bytes from remote IP: 192.168.60.162:2237
client.php magic binary : [adbccbda]
client.php schema binary : [0002]
client.php type of message binary : [0004]
client.php id : [LOGGER]
client.php time : [72465000 -> 20:07:45]
client.php DECODE snr : [ffef -> 0010 -> -17]
client.php DECODE delta time : [3fd9a000 -> 0.4000596046]
client.php DECODE delta : [1703 Hz]
client.php DECODE mode : [0001: ~]
client.php DECODE message : [000f: K1VK F6BHK JN24]
client.php DECODE Low confidence : [00]
client.php DECODE modifiers : [00]

I have read in MessageNetwork.hpp the the id must be the Target unique 
id. I tried with the WSJT-X client id and with something else to no 
avail.


I have noted a difference between the mode from DECODE message (the 
letter ~) and the mode from the STATUS message (plain text FT8). None of 
them awake WSJT-X client.


I must say that I could use some help from here! I really am at a loss 
to understand what goes on here.


Any taker ?

Cheers

Serge



On 21/03/2018 19:22, F6BHK wrote:

Good Evening


While I am able to received and decode all the messages that come out 
of WSJT-X via UDP, I have some difficulties to get WSJT-X client to 
accept the server type 4 messages.


I have checked in the settings all 3checkboxes "Accept UDP requests", 
"Notify on accepted UDP request", "Accepted UDP requests restores 
windows" in the hope to get some feedback from the client.


I was expecting some updates on the client window with some of the 
data contained in the UDP message I send and an acknowledgement and/or 
an error message.


But my messages must be ill-formed, for I get out of WSJT-X nothing 
except when the UDP message is really, and voluntarily, broken (there 
is a popup window screaming about bad format).


I use version 1.9rc2 on Win7 pro, and this version works like a charm 
when used manually (I mean with the mouse/keyboard).


I have double checked the message format I send and I am pretty 
confident that it is following the definition in NetworkMessage.hpp


Should my expectations be correct, is there a way to get more details 
about what happens to WSJT-X 

[wsjt-devel] Difficulties to get WSJT-X to accept UDP type 4 message from server

2018-03-21 Thread F6BHK

Good Evening


While I am able to received and decode all the messages that come out of 
WSJT-X via UDP, I have some difficulties to get WSJT-X client to accept 
the server type 4 messages.


I have checked in the settings all 3checkboxes "Accept UDP requests", 
"Notify on accepted UDP request", "Accepted UDP requests restores 
windows" in the hope to get some feedback from the client.


I was expecting some updates on the client window with some of the data 
contained in the UDP message I send and an acknowledgement and/or an 
error message.


But my messages must be ill-formed, for I get out of WSJT-X nothing 
except when the UDP message is really, and voluntarily, broken (there is 
a popup window screaming about bad format).


I use version 1.9rc2 on Win7 pro, and this version works like a charm 
when used manually (I mean with the mouse/keyboard).


I have double checked the message format I send and I am pretty 
confident that it is following the definition in NetworkMessage.hpp


Should my expectations be correct, is there a way to get more details 
about what happens to WSJT-X when it gets my message, such as error 
messages, trace log, etc?


I could not find anything on UDP dialog in the User's manual nor did I 
find a startup option or something else to help me.


Thank you for your answers

73, Serge

PS: keep up the very good work guys! FT8 is fun! Cheers!

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73, de Serge
F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC
PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE
JN24LP


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