Re: [Xastir] Feature Request

[David]

Hi Curtjust did an ./update-xastir.no problems..will 
investigate new Track Station...will let you know outcome


73 David VK4BDJ



Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Steve Friis wrote:


xastir -f we7u-12 &

No, I didn't, but then that would require a restart, if I am thinking 
correctly how that would work.


Yep.


Well, to regress back to what I originally thought, if there was a 
remembered list that would persist through restarts of the program, 
then one would only have to click on the station that was previously 
entered in the list. If a new station was going to be added to the 
list, then one would add it to a blank field. If you wanted to re-use 
a call, then you would just recheck that station.


I fully understand, and that would be lovely, but it's more work
than I want to do right now.


I see how your way would work too. Here in NM when I zoom in what 
would be a search area or a bike-a-thon etc, I don't see that it is 
going to be very cluttered, unless you are talking about everyone in 
the staging area, and even then... Now if you are talking about 
covering a whole county, things can get crowded in the metro's but 
not unreasonably. So, you method should be very useful. Probably 
would work even better than mine.


Xastir will give you a Chooser box before it goes to Station Info if
there's more than one station within XX pixels of where you
right-click with the mouse, then you click on the callsign you want
and it goes to Station Info.  From there you can click on the new
Track Station button which isn't labeled properly yet.

It's in CVS now.  Might not be in anonCVS for a few minutes.



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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Steve Friis wrote:


xastir -f we7u-12 &

No, I didn't, but then that would require a restart, if I am thinking 
correctly how that would work.


Yep.


Well, to regress back to what I originally thought, if there was a remembered 
list that would persist through restarts of the program, then one would only 
have to click on the station that was previously entered in the list. If a 
new station was going to be added to the list, then one would add it to a 
blank field. If you wanted to re-use a call, then you would just recheck that 
station.


I fully understand, and that would be lovely, but it's more work
than I want to do right now.


I see how your way would work too. Here in NM when I zoom in what would be a 
search area or a bike-a-thon etc, I don't see that it is going to be very 
cluttered, unless you are talking about everyone in the staging area, and 
even then... Now if you are talking about covering a whole county, things can 
get crowded in the metro's but not unreasonably. So, you method should be 
very useful. Probably would work even better than mine.


Xastir will give you a Chooser box before it goes to Station Info if
there's more than one station within XX pixels of where you
right-click with the mouse, then you click on the callsign you want
and it goes to Station Info.  From there you can click on the new
Track Station button which isn't labeled properly yet.

It's in CVS now.  Might not be in anonCVS for a few minutes.

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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request

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Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Steve Friis wrote:

Anyway I kind of like your way as then I wouldn't have to pull down a 
menu and then select a box. Just right-click on the station, if I 
understand what you are saying, and make the selection. Way cool.


Almost.  You'd right-click.  If there were multiple stations near
the mouse you'd get a selection box, else the Station Info window.
If the selection box then select the callsign and then the Station
Info window would pop up.  Once there you'd have a button there for
"Track This Station" or some-such.

Did you know about the "-f callsign" (Track callsign) command-line
option?  You could do it that way as well:

xastir -f we7u-12 &

No, I didn't, but then that would require a restart, if I am thinking 
correctly how that would work.




Define different aliases or scripts for tracking certain people.

I'm still thinking about the "minimum surprise to users" angle:
Should we or should we not make tracking of a particular station
remembered through restarts of Xastir?

Well, to regress back to what I originally thought, if there was a 
remembered list that would persist through restarts of the program, then 
one would only have to click on the station that was previously entered 
in the list. If a new station was going to be added to the list, then 
one would add it to a blank field. If you wanted to re-use a call, then 
you would just recheck that station.


I see how your way would work too. Here in NM when I zoom in what would 
be a search area or a bike-a-thon etc, I don't see that it is going to 
be very cluttered, unless you are talking about everyone in the staging 
area, and even then... Now if you are talking about covering a whole 
county, things can get crowded in the metro's but not unreasonably. So, 
you method should be very useful. Probably would work even better than mine.


Sorry, I got long winded.

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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Steve Friis wrote:

Anyway I kind of like your way as then I wouldn't have to pull down a menu 
and then select a box. Just right-click on the station, if I understand what 
you are saying, and make the selection. Way cool.


Almost.  You'd right-click.  If there were multiple stations near
the mouse you'd get a selection box, else the Station Info window.
If the selection box then select the callsign and then the Station
Info window would pop up.  Once there you'd have a button there for
"Track This Station" or some-such.

Did you know about the "-f callsign" (Track callsign) command-line
option?  You could do it that way as well:

xastir -f we7u-12 &

Define different aliases or scripts for tracking certain people.

I'm still thinking about the "minimum surprise to users" angle:
Should we or should we not make tracking of a particular station
remembered through restarts of Xastir?

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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request

[Steve Friis]

As far as the list, that's a bit more code.  What about this
instead:  A button on the Station Info window for enabling tracking
of that station?  I've been wanting to do that for some time and
that would make it easier to track stations if they'd been heard
recently.  If not then one could type in the callsign.

Wow, I didn't think to do it that way. Even that would really be cool. 
See why you are a developer and I am just a user?


Anyway I kind of like your way as then I wouldn't have to pull down a 
menu and then select a box. Just right-click on the station, if I 
understand what you are saying, and make the selection. Way cool.


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Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu, Kenwood, Xastir et al...

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jim Morgan wrote:


I still have not found the answer to my serial port issues with
this system and I have a SET drill coming up on 4th October and I
am seriously considering going back to the evil empire and loading
Win98 back on this box with UiView and then the thought hit me...
How do we use Xastir with the sound card?


That route may be rife with yet other difficulties.



By the way when I used the Knoppix disc with all the ham radio
proggies on it I had no problems setting up and using Xastir...
except no maps unless I was online. So the problem is with
Fluxbuntu not hardware or Xastir. Which is good for me because I
prefer Xastir.


If you'd use a Linux distribution I was more familiar with I could
probably help you.  Probably the same for others but they probably
have different distributions in mind.

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Re: [Xastir] How to...

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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, k4xtt wrote:

Curt, this is interesting.  What are all the command line options or where 
can I see them?


xastir -h
or
xastir -?

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Re: [Xastir] How to...

[ke4lkq]

found them, I think.

k4xtt wrote:
Curt, this is interesting.  What are all the command line options or 
where can I see them?

Thanks,
Vic


xastir &
xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir2 &
xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir3 &

etc.




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Re: [Xastir] How to...

[k4xtt]

Curt, this is interesting.  What are all the command line options or 
where can I see them?

Thanks,
Vic


xastir &
xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir2 &
xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir3 &

etc.




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[Xastir] Fluxbuntu, Kenwood, Xastir et al...

[Jim Morgan]

I still have not found the answer to my serial port issues with this system and 
I have a SET drill coming up on 4th October and I am seriously considering 
going back to the evil empire and loading Win98 back on this box with UiView 
and then the thought hit me... How do we use Xastir with the sound card? 

By the way when I used the Knoppix disc with all the ham radio proggies on it I 
had no problems setting up and using Xastir... except no maps unless I was 
online. So the problem is with Fluxbuntu not hardware or Xastir. Which is good 
for me because I prefer Xastir.


Jim Morgan KE5MKT
Midland, TX 79703-6318
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432.425.5606


  
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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Steve Friis wrote:


I posted this earlier, but didn't see it go by or hear any response.


I haven't had a chance to get to all of the e-mail from the last
week or so.  Perhaps none of the other developers had an interest in
this topic.


I would like to see where xastir  remembers the last 
station entered here. It would be really cool if it could remember a limited 
list where a check mark or box would re-initiate this function. I typically 
find myself tracking one of four or five stations repeatedly. It would be 
great if I didn't have to retype these calls over and over each time, and 
with my clumsy fingers... well, you get the idea?


Combining your questions from the two e-mails:

Sure, we could make the currently tracked station "sticky", as in
save it to the config file when we shut down and restore it on
startup.  Better yet would be to save it when the callsign is
entered as that protects better against power going away during an
event.  Right now most things don't save until you manually save or
you shut down Xastir.

Sticky tracking might cause surprises for the operator if he forgot
he was tracking though, that's often the case for me.

As far as the list, that's a bit more code.  What about this
instead:  A button on the Station Info window for enabling tracking
of that station?  I've been wanting to do that for some time and
that would make it easier to track stations if they'd been heard
recently.  If not then one could type in the callsign.

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[Xastir] Feature Request

[Steve Friis]

I posted this earlier, but didn't see it go by or hear any response.

I would like to see where xastir  remembers the 
last station entered here. It would be really cool if it could remember 
a limited list where a check mark or box would re-initiate this 
function. I typically find myself tracking one of four or five stations 
repeatedly. It would be great if I didn't have to retype these calls 
over and over each time, and with my clumsy fingers... well, you get the 
idea?



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[Xastir] Grouply

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There is a thing going around called "Grouply". Be ware! This is a data 
miner that poses as an aid for Yahoo groups. Yahoo disclames it and 
several friends have fallen pray to this beast and have had their data 
compromised.


Check out here  to see what I am 
talking about. Go to the bottom of the page to read the article.


http://minnieapolis.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/18/1310117-tempest-over-grouply-spamming-yahoo-groups-members
has more info on this subject.

Remember, if someone asks for your passwords, don't give it to them.

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Re: [Xastir] How to...

[Keith Kaiser]

I'll give this a try Curt, had not thought about multiple Xastir's  
running. I really want to be able to track the first and last rider  
plus the bulk of the riders all at the same time on the same screen  
and keep the screen showing for that group (zoomed to fit).

Add it to the dream list I guess... lol.

Something that goes along with this would be the ability to have the  
summary window for each of these stations open too, something that  
shows their current lat/long, speed, altitude, etc. I know I can  
display the information screen (and do) but it's a lot more than  
needed and in anything but an easy to use UI.


Thanks. guys for all you do.

On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Keith Kaiser wrote:

Thanks David and Kevin, I do wish I could track multiple and zoom  
to fit and have used the tactical call method suggested by Kevin.  
Unfortunately that really doesn't work for a bike ride but thank  
you anyway, and I sure hope the guys are having a great time in  
Washington.


Yep we did!

The tactical callsign thing works great for special events.  For
tracking individual stations the best I can suggest is to set up one
Xastir as the "master" station, with the "Server Ports" enabled
(Interface menu).  You can track one station on that and zoom to
taste, or keep that one as the "overall view" map.

Start up another Xastir using the "-c /path/dir" flag on the
command-line, and connect it to the master instance (localhost port
2023).  Set that one up to track a station.  Repeat (with a
different path for each running instance).  You'll have to configure
each of those new Xastir sessions as they'll be starting with a
clean default config file the first time you run them.

I did this sort of thing for the Seattle Marathon plus set up a
script to start up the various Xastir sessions in the right
directories and such.  That way if I lost power or anything went
wrong, I could easily/quickly get back to the same configuration.

   xastir &
   xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir2 &
   xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir3 &

etc.

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Re: [Xastir] How to...

[Curt, WE7U]

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Keith Kaiser wrote:

Thanks David and Kevin, I do wish I could track multiple and zoom to fit and 
have used the tactical call method suggested by Kevin. Unfortunately that 
really doesn't work for a bike ride but thank you anyway, and I sure hope the 
guys are having a great time in Washington.


Yep we did!

The tactical callsign thing works great for special events.  For
tracking individual stations the best I can suggest is to set up one
Xastir as the "master" station, with the "Server Ports" enabled
(Interface menu).  You can track one station on that and zoom to
taste, or keep that one as the "overall view" map.

Start up another Xastir using the "-c /path/dir" flag on the
command-line, and connect it to the master instance (localhost port
2023).  Set that one up to track a station.  Repeat (with a
different path for each running instance).  You'll have to configure
each of those new Xastir sessions as they'll be starting with a
clean default config file the first time you run them.

I did this sort of thing for the Seattle Marathon plus set up a
script to start up the various Xastir sessions in the right
directories and such.  That way if I lost power or anything went
wrong, I could easily/quickly get back to the same configuration.

xastir &
xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir2 &
xastir -c /home/archer/.xastir3 &

etc.

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Re: [Xastir] Topo on line maps?

[AC7YY - Kim]

On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 08:53 -0700, Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, AC7YY - Kim wrote:
> 
> > I got this error when I switched to Online/terraserver--topo.geo
> > the map loaded and crashed after a few seconds
> >
> > xastir: xcb_out.c:287: _xcb_out_flush_to: Assertion `((int) ((request) -
> > (c->out.request)) <= 0)' failed.
> > Aborted
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> > xastir: xcb_out.c:287: _xcb_out_flush_to: Assertion `((int) ((request) -
> > (c->out.request)) <= 0)' failed.
> > Aborted
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> >
> > Have I compiled something incorrectly? Ubuntu 8.04 xastir v 1.9.5 here
> 
> I really don't know.  The stuff above looks like C++ code, and I
> don't know what "xcb" is, so I suspect this is one of the libraries
> which is written in C++.
> 
> I found this in a Google search:
> 
>  http://lwn.net/Articles/273724/
> 
> Which talks about XLib and XCB and has some of the above strings in
> the article.  So...  It looks like they changed X11 a bit (XLib is
> one of the layers of X11).  Have you tried updating your box to the
> latest OS patches?
> 

Thanks Curt

I will look at that tonight. That may be the problem, I have updated to
the latest OS patches and that seems to be when the problem started.

kim


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Re: [Xastir] dbfawk, overlapping lines, and more

[Curt, WE7U]

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Alex Carver wrote:


Third, is there a way to kick Xastir and force it to reindex the
maps and refresh the screen non-interactively?  If I get this
working, a cron is going to download the track, drop it in the
maps directory and it should be able to signal Xastir to reindex
the maps and refresh the display so that the track is updated.


About the best I can think of right now is to update the timestamp
on the map files you want reindexed, then send the signal to Xastir
which causes it to shut down and restart.  I think that should cause
it to reindex the maps, but test this procedure to make sure.
SIGHUP causes a restart.

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Re: [Xastir] Topo on line maps?

[Curt, WE7U]

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, AC7YY - Kim wrote:


I got this error when I switched to Online/terraserver--topo.geo
the map loaded and crashed after a few seconds

xastir: xcb_out.c:287: _xcb_out_flush_to: Assertion `((int) ((request) -
(c->out.request)) <= 0)' failed.
Aborted
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
xastir: xcb_out.c:287: _xcb_out_flush_to: Assertion `((int) ((request) -
(c->out.request)) <= 0)' failed.
Aborted
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Have I compiled something incorrectly? Ubuntu 8.04 xastir v 1.9.5 here


I really don't know.  The stuff above looks like C++ code, and I
don't know what "xcb" is, so I suspect this is one of the libraries
which is written in C++.

I found this in a Google search:

http://lwn.net/Articles/273724/

Which talks about XLib and XCB and has some of the above strings in
the article.  So...  It looks like they changed X11 a bit (XLib is
one of the layers of X11).  Have you tried updating your box to the
latest OS patches?

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Re: [Xastir] Compiling 1.9.5

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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, KZ5ED wrote:


OS is Mandriva 2006



Trying to compile 1.9.5 from source.


Run Make and get this can someone tell me where to start looking to fix this 
problem.


main.c: In function 'Map_font_xfontsel':
main.c:4590: error: 'XFONTSEL_PATH' undeclared (first use in this function)


That's my fault.  I added some checks for "xfontsel" to configure.ac
or acinclude.m4 (the autoconf stuff) because Xastir uses that binary
and I wanted it to find the path during the configure step.  What I
_should_ have done (and hopefully will get to soon) was also add
checks in the C-code to disable use of "XFONTSEL_PATH" when
"HAVE_XFONTSEL" is not defined.

To fix it in your case, install a package which gives you the
"xfontsel" binary.

I ran this command on OpenSUSE-11.0 to find which package installed
it:

rpm -q -f /usr/bin/xfontsel

Which returned:

xorg-x11-7.3-96.2

So...  Look in your XFree or Xorg packages to see which provides
xfontsel and install it, then re-run "./configure".

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[Xastir] Compiling 1.9.5

[KZ5ED]

Good Morning,

I am missing something and cannot figure it out.
OS is Mandriva 2006

Currently Running Xastir 1.9.2

Trying to compile 1.9.5 from source.

Ran Bootstrap in 1.9.5 source folder  No Errors
Ran ./configure in 1.9.5 source folder No Errors

Run Make and get this can someone tell me where to start looking to fix 
this problem.


main.c: In function 'Map_font_xfontsel':
main.c:4590: error: 'XFONTSEL_PATH' undeclared (first use in this function)
main.c:4590: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
main.c:4590: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/eric/xastir-1.9.5/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/eric/xastir-1.9.5/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eric/xastir-1.9.5'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Thank You,

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Re: [Xastir] Any "MacPorts" and/or "Fink" experts out there?

[Derrick Brashear]

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Carl Makin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Curt,
>
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Curt, WE7U wrote:
>
>> I wasn't real happy that most of the libraries installed via
>> MacPorts were that many levels down _and_ had version numbers in the
>> directory names.  How are other pieces of software supposed to be
>> able to find them?  Perhaps they also got installed into
>
> These levels are there to support an enable/disable function in the "port"
> installer that lets you disable a port on the fly without deinstalling it.
> You should only need the /opt/local/[...] includes to pick up everything
> that is currently enabled.
>
>> *) Fink installs go into /sw/lib and /sw/include and not further
>>  below!
>> *) MacPorts installs go into /opt/local/lib and /opt/local/include
>>  and not further below!
>> *) Xastir's autoconf gets modified to handle the first two above.
>> *) Xastir's autoconf gets modified to add path flags for the other
>>  libraries (and perhaps executables that we use).
>
> This is how it works right now although configure looks in both /sw and /opt
> during the one install and will drag libraries from either which could cause
> issues.
>
>> With a small amount of work by us the OSX people could also have an
>> easy source install of Xastir.
>
> When Derrick gets the time to update the port in MacPorts then it will be as
> easy as typing "port install xastir" to get it installed. Unfortunately it
> looks like the OpenMotif port is unmaintained so the 1.9.4 port uses
> Lesstif.
>

All I should have to do is approve your port, I think. I will try to deal today.
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