Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Jim Morgan wrote: So I have gone back and changed the permissions in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules so that the permissions problem will be solved. I will try again, with great caution and fear this time, to see if adding the /dev/ttyS0 to the /etc/udev/rules.d20-names file will get Xastir to talking to the Kenwood through the serial port. I still need to dl GTKTerm and/or Minicom again. As a reminder I have nothing serial except for the radio. So am I forgetting something else that we have tried? And does anyone know if I really need to name the serial port in the names file? The port is not named in the same file on my working Ubuntu computer. And if I do need to write the port into the 20-names.rules file what do I need to tell it to do and does this tie in somehow with the symlink rules? I'm using OpenSuSE-11.0 rather than Ubuntu, using one USB->Serial adapter on the home box at present, plus a USB TV capture device and a USB joystick, maybe a USB mouse too. I haven't had to name anything, but I did have to go mess with the permissions in /etc/udev/rules.d/ so that I could use my joystick in BZFlag. Got'a have my BZFlag! Have you looked through the Ubuntu-specific info in these two spots? http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo's http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/Installation_Notes Anyone else running Ubuntu that can help Jim? -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Due to a tragic and terribly embarrasing act last night I ended up totally messing up the /etc/udev/rules.d/20-names.rules file. In a fit of panic, rage, and/or desperation (I'll let you decide which) I went to square one and reloaded Fluxbuntu. Aside from an Ubuntu disc which won't work on this computer I don't have any other distro. So I have gone back and changed the permissions in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules so that the permissions problem will be solved. I will try again, with great caution and fear this time, to see if adding the /dev/ttyS0 to the /etc/udev/rules.d20-names file will get Xastir to talking to the Kenwood through the serial port. I still need to dl GTKTerm and/or Minicom again. As a reminder I have nothing serial except for the radio. So am I forgetting something else that we have tried? And does anyone know if I really need to name the serial port in the names file? The port is not named in the same file on my working Ubuntu computer. And if I do need to write the port into the 20-names.rules file what do I need to tell it to do and does this tie in somehow with the symlink rules? Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
I discovered the dialouut group with Creager on the phone last week so I just assumed it was to be dialout instead of uucp. Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Lee Bengston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Lee Bengston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Xastir - APRS client software discussion" > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 8:49 PM > Ok, we crossed emails - I see you are already in the dialout > group. Oh well. > > Lee > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Jim Morgan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I found a line that said "KERNEL==ttyLTM..." > so I added the line that Lee suggested right underneath that > one. It did make the permissions crwxrwxrwx after the > reboot. The ttyS0 appears to be in the "dialout" > group and my username is in the dialout group. > > > > Still no communication between the computer and the > radio. > > > > I have a file for Names in the /etc/udev/rules.d > directory and I don't see the port specifically named, > is this an issue? > > > > Jim Morgan KE5MKT > > Midland, TX 79703-6318 > > USA > > 432.425.5606 > > > > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Ok, we crossed emails - I see you are already in the dialout group. Oh well. Lee On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found a line that said "KERNEL==ttyLTM..." so I added the line that Lee > suggested right underneath that one. It did make the permissions crwxrwxrwx > after the reboot. The ttyS0 appears to be in the "dialout" group and my > username is in the dialout group. > > Still no communication between the computer and the radio. > > I have a file for Names in the /etc/udev/rules.d directory and I don't see > the port specifically named, is this an issue? > > Jim Morgan KE5MKT > Midland, TX 79703-6318 > USA > 432.425.5606 > > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
I also found this on the ubuntu forums. Adding the username that needs to access the serial port to the group, "dialout". sudo adduser username dialout This Fluxbuntu thing got my curiosity going, so I created a virtual machine with it. A check of the properties of ttyS0 shows indeed that the owner, group is root, dialout. By the way, Fluxbuntu is based on Ubuntu 7.10 - evidently no 8.04 version yet. Regards, Lee On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fun just gets better and better. I do not have a > "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" but I have a 40-permissions file > with much the same info. > > Jim Morgan KE5MKT > Midland, TX 79703-6318 > USA > 432.425.5606 > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
I found a line that said "KERNEL==ttyLTM..." so I added the line that Lee suggested right underneath that one. It did make the permissions crwxrwxrwx after the reboot. The ttyS0 appears to be in the "dialout" group and my username is in the dialout group. Still no communication between the computer and the radio. I have a file for Names in the /etc/udev/rules.d directory and I don't see the port specifically named, is this an issue? Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Jason KG4WSV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Jason KG4WSV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Xastir - APRS client software discussion" > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 8:36 PM > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Jim Morgan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fun just gets better and better. I do not have a > "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" but I > have a 40-permissions file with much the same info. > > If the file is in /etc/udev/rules.d and contains the line > with > KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", that's the one you want. > > The various files in that directory do the same thing. The > files are > separate for organization and for execution order. > > -Jason > kg4wsv > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fun just gets better and better. I do not have a > "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" but I have a 40-permissions file > with much the same info. If the file is in /etc/udev/rules.d and contains the line with KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", that's the one you want. The various files in that directory do the same thing. The files are separate for organization and for execution order. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
The fun just gets better and better. I do not have a "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" but I have a 40-permissions file with much the same info. Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Lee Bengston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Lee Bengston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Xastir - APRS client software discussion" > Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 10:15 PM > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Jim Morgan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok- I prowled around in the /etc/udev/rule.d file and > I figure I am WAAYY over my head on that one. What do I need > to look at in the directory and is there a decnt webpage or > something that might help me figure that out? > > > > Jim KE5MKT > > > > Fyi, this is what I found after some googling. The context > of the > forum discussion was that a person was having a similar > problem > connecting his weather station to his serial port in > openSUSE. It > sounds right in sync with what Curt said about udev enabled > linux > versions. > > == > > * NOTE: If you are running OpenSUSE, or any other Linux > distro which > utilizes "udev" (udev is included in almost every > 2.6 kernel based > Linux distribution), then in order to permanently change > permissions > of your ttyS0 port (or any ttyS* port), you must edit the > "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" file. > Here are the changes > you must make in order for the permissions to stick after > rebooting > your computer (you must be root to make the changes): > > * Open the > "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" file in > your > favorite text editor (as root). Find the line in the file > that begins > with KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]". That's the line you > will need to edit. Notice > the default settings will look something like this: > > * KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", NAME="%k", > GROUP="uucp" > > * Add [, MODE="777"] to the end of the above > line in your > 50-udev-default.rules file (without the brackets but > don't forget to > add the preceding coma). It should look something like > this: > > * KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", NAME="%k", > GROUP="uucp", MODE="777" > > * After changing this file and saving, reboot your > computer. The > ttyS* ports will grant rwx permission to any user. > > * Important: If you have a udev enabled Linux > distribution and you > do not make the above noted changes to your > 50-udev-default.rules > file, then every time you reboot your computer, the > permissions on the > ttyS* ports will revert back to root only access. This is > because udev > dynamically updates the /dev directory upon booting. All > permissions > granted during your previous session will be lost and > Weather Display > will not function properly. This solution is known to work > properly > with OpenSUSE 10.2. > > == > > Fyi, I had the same problem with permissions on my serial > port on a > laptop running openSUSE 10.3. I wasn't using Xastir on > that unit, > though, so I got around the problem by just running GTKterm > and > minicom as root whenever I needed to talk to the serial > port. I > wouldn't want to run Xastir as root, though, so > hopefully the above > tweak will do the trick. > > Regards, > Lee - K5DAT > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
--- On Mon, 8/18/08, John Ronan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: John Ronan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Xastir - APRS client software discussion" > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 4:15 AM > Hi Jim, > > Any chance you could do the following > > ls -al /dev/ttyS0 > > > On my machine I get > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al /dev/ttyS0 > crw-rw 1 root dialout 4, 64 2008-08-17 22:10 /dev/ttyS0 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > In order to allow my 'user' to access the device I > did the following > > sudo adduser j0n dialout > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo adduser j0n dialout > [sudo] password for j0n: > The user `j0n' is already a member of `dialout'. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > Regards > John > I did the ls -al command once with Gerry on the phone and got a very similar result. I do not remember if we did the adduser part though. Thanks Jim KE5MKT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
> * KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", NAME="%k", > GROUP="uucp", MODE="777" > > > Fyi, I had the same problem with permissions on my serial > port on a > laptop running openSUSE 10.3. I wasn't using Xastir on > that unit, > though, so I got around the problem by just running GTKterm > and > minicom as root whenever I needed to talk to the serial > port. I > wouldn't want to run Xastir as root, though, so > hopefully the above > tweak will do the trick. > > Regards, > Lee - K5DAT > Thanks Lee, I will try to do this in any spare time I might get today. I can run Xastir as root and it still does not work, of course that may have something to do with the execute permission. Jim KE5MKT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Hi Jim, Any chance you could do the following ls -al /dev/ttyS0 On my machine I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root dialout 4, 64 2008-08-17 22:10 /dev/ttyS0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ In order to allow my 'user' to access the device I did the following sudo adduser j0n dialout [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo adduser j0n dialout [sudo] password for j0n: The user `j0n' is already a member of `dialout'. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Regards John On 18 Aug 2008, at 03:47, Jim Morgan wrote: Note that a lot of newer Linux systems have switched to using the udev system which creates entires in /dev only for devices that actually exist in your system. This means that it creates them and sets their permissions each time you boot. If you're manually changing permissions in /dev and they keep getting reset, this may be your issue. I only figured out enough to change the permissions on my USB joystick so that each time the device is created I can use it. I had to go into /etc/udev/rules.d/ and change a file in there. Ok- I prowled around in the /etc/udev/rule.d file and I figure I am WAAYY over my head on that one. What do I need to look at in the directory and is there a decnt webpage or something that might help me figure that out? Jim KE5MKT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- John Ronan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, +353-51-302938 Telecommunications Software & Systems Group, http://www.tssg.org ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008, Lee Bengston wrote: * NOTE: If you are running OpenSUSE, or any other Linux distro which utilizes "udev" (udev is included in almost every 2.6 kernel based Linux distribution), then in order to permanently change permissions of your ttyS0 port (or any ttyS* port), you must edit the "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" file. That's the same file I edited in order to get my USB joystick working for BZFlag under Linux (another slight distraction, along with MythTV & the Olympics). -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok- I prowled around in the /etc/udev/rule.d file and I figure I am WAAYY > over my head on that one. What do I need to look at in the directory and is > there a decnt webpage or something that might help me figure that out? > > Jim KE5MKT > Fyi, this is what I found after some googling. The context of the forum discussion was that a person was having a similar problem connecting his weather station to his serial port in openSUSE. It sounds right in sync with what Curt said about udev enabled linux versions. == * NOTE: If you are running OpenSUSE, or any other Linux distro which utilizes "udev" (udev is included in almost every 2.6 kernel based Linux distribution), then in order to permanently change permissions of your ttyS0 port (or any ttyS* port), you must edit the "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" file. Here are the changes you must make in order for the permissions to stick after rebooting your computer (you must be root to make the changes): * Open the "/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules" file in your favorite text editor (as root). Find the line in the file that begins with KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]". That's the line you will need to edit. Notice the default settings will look something like this: * KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", NAME="%k", GROUP="uucp" * Add [, MODE="777"] to the end of the above line in your 50-udev-default.rules file (without the brackets but don't forget to add the preceding coma). It should look something like this: * KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*", NAME="%k", GROUP="uucp", MODE="777" * After changing this file and saving, reboot your computer. The ttyS* ports will grant rwx permission to any user. * Important: If you have a udev enabled Linux distribution and you do not make the above noted changes to your 50-udev-default.rules file, then every time you reboot your computer, the permissions on the ttyS* ports will revert back to root only access. This is because udev dynamically updates the /dev directory upon booting. All permissions granted during your previous session will be lost and Weather Display will not function properly. This solution is known to work properly with OpenSUSE 10.2. == Fyi, I had the same problem with permissions on my serial port on a laptop running openSUSE 10.3. I wasn't using Xastir on that unit, though, so I got around the problem by just running GTKterm and minicom as root whenever I needed to talk to the serial port. I wouldn't want to run Xastir as root, though, so hopefully the above tweak will do the trick. Regards, Lee - K5DAT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
> Note that a lot of newer Linux systems have switched to > using the > udev system which creates entires in /dev only for devices > that > actually exist in your system. This means that it creates > them and > sets their permissions each time you boot. If you're > manually > changing permissions in /dev and they keep getting reset, > this may > be your issue. > > I only figured out enough to change the permissions on my > USB > joystick so that each time the device is created I can use > it. I > had to go into /etc/udev/rules.d/ and change a file in > there. > > Ok- I prowled around in the /etc/udev/rule.d file and I figure I am WAAYY over my head on that one. What do I need to look at in the directory and is there a decnt webpage or something that might help me figure that out? Jim KE5MKT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
> > Ok. Did you track the problem down to permissions problems > or > perhaps to something else trying to use the serial port? > I thought that we had solved the permissions issues but read on later in this email. I have had at times the port supposedly tied up by other programs. I say supposedly because I had turned nothing on but Xastir and/or the GTKTerm but the system said port busy in spite of the fact that I only had one port utilizing program on. One time in a fit of frustration I tried connecting too often and Xastir itself put a lock on the port but someone helped me unlock it. > Note that a lot of newer Linux systems have switched to > using the > udev system which creates entires in /dev only for devices > that > actually exist in your system. This means that it creates > them and > sets their permissions each time you boot. If you're > manually > changing permissions in /dev and they keep getting reset, > this may > be your issue. > > I only figured out enough to change the permissions on my > USB > joystick so that each time the device is created I can use > it. I > had to go into /etc/udev/rules.d/ and change a file in > there. > > Now maybe you found something here, Curt, because when I change the permissions for /dev/ttyS0 the computer does not save them. Upon a reboot they return to a default of rw-rw. I think that the Fluxbuntu folks released this distro less than one year ago so maybe what you said above applies to my issue. Do you (or anyone else) have any thought as to how to fix the problem? Jim KE5MKT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jim Morgan wrote: No sir. I use the DB9 serial port. Ok. Did you track the problem down to permissions problems or perhaps to something else trying to use the serial port? Note that a lot of newer Linux systems have switched to using the udev system which creates entires in /dev only for devices that actually exist in your system. This means that it creates them and sets their permissions each time you boot. If you're manually changing permissions in /dev and they keep getting reset, this may be your issue. I only figured out enough to change the permissions on my USB joystick so that each time the device is created I can use it. I had to go into /etc/udev/rules.d/ and change a file in there. Interesting. Yea, we create symlinks to the proper language files for language.sys and help.dat. Acutually this is a problem someone else had using Xastir with Knoppix. I do not understand fully what problem they had so any explanation I might provide would not suffice. Roger. I'll have to look into why we create symlinks each time we run (we shouldn't do that), plus what the problem is with Knoppix and some compressed filesystem with redirects... I hadn't heard of that problem before. -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
> > Are you using a USB serial adapter? > No sir. I use the DB9 serial port. Also, at sometime in the last couple of weeks someone asked if I used a serial mouse. I do not and right now I do not own a mouse with a wheel. > > Interesting. Yea, we create symlinks to the proper > language files > for language.sys and help.dat. This is so one can switch > languages > for the menus and help text from English to one of the > other > supported languages. I was unaware of this causing > problems, but it > looks like you're using a compressed filesystem and the > symlinks are > getting created pointing to the wrong place? This might be > something we could fix in the code if it were explained > well enough > to us. > > -- Acutually this is a problem someone else had using Xastir with Knoppix. I do not understand fully what problem they had so any explanation I might provide would not suffice. Jim KE5MKT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jim Morgan wrote: To refresh our minds a bit- I am trying to run Xastir on a Fluxbuntu computer with a Celeron processor and 64MB. The issue is that while Xastir (sometimes) says the interface thru the serial port is up the computer will not talk to the radio. Are you using a USB serial adapter? festival_client: connect to server failed SayText: Couldn't open socket to Festival Could not read Language file: /home/linux/.xastir/config/language.sys! Error in language file! Exiting... Looks to me as if it requres a running festival server. This is easy: get it with klik://festival and then then launch festival as a server with No. The festival thing is just a warning and has nothing to do with the language file. You don't need to run Festival. If you want to get rid of this warning once and for all, get rid of the Festival packages and re-run configure/make/make install, or else keep the packages and run "./configure --without-festival". The warning is harmless though as-is. If you _want_ to run Festival, that's fine too but it's not necessary. Besides, it seems to look for a configuration file in ~/.xastir/config/language.sys - and here comes the catch: xastir seems to replace this file at every run with a symlink (and due to klik's relocate-patch, this fails). So you have to do manually: Code: # unpack cmg /sbin/fsck.cramfs -x ~/Desktop/xastir ~/Desktop/xastir*.cmg # create directory mkdir -p ~/.xastir/config/share/xastir/config # copy language files cp ~/Desktop/xastir/usr/share/xastir/config/language-* ~/.xastir/config/share/xastir/config # delete unpacked AppDir rm -rf ~/Desktop/xastir/ Interesting. Yea, we create symlinks to the proper language files for language.sys and help.dat. This is so one can switch languages for the menus and help text from English to one of the other supported languages. I was unaware of this causing problems, but it looks like you're using a compressed filesystem and the symlinks are getting created pointing to the wrong place? This might be something we could fix in the code if it were explained well enough to us. -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
To refresh our minds a bit- I am trying to run Xastir on a Fluxbuntu computer with a Celeron processor and 64MB. The issue is that while Xastir (sometimes) says the interface thru the serial port is up the computer will not talk to the radio. I bumped into this while trying to figure something out in Knoppix. We know that festival is not required to run Xastir... but what is the rest of this and is it my problem? ---quoted text--- Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:20 pm Code: festival_client: connect to server failed SayText: Couldn't open socket to Festival Could not read Language file: /home/linux/.xastir/config/language.sys! Error in language file! Exiting... Looks to me as if it requres a running festival server. This is easy: get it with klik://festival and then then launch festival as a server with Code: ~/.zAppRun ~/Desktop/festival*.cmg festival --server Besides, it seems to look for a configuration file in ~/.xastir/config/language.sys - and here comes the catch: xastir seems to replace this file at every run with a symlink (and due to klik's relocate-patch, this fails). So you have to do manually: Code: # unpack cmg /sbin/fsck.cramfs -x ~/Desktop/xastir ~/Desktop/xastir*.cmg # create directory mkdir -p ~/.xastir/config/share/xastir/config # copy language files cp ~/Desktop/xastir/usr/share/xastir/config/language-* ~/.xastir/config/share/xastir/config # delete unpacked AppDir rm -rf ~/Desktop/xastir/ Now it runs. Greetings, name deleted ---end quoted text--- Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
i did do it a couple of times but i wasn't connected to the net on that computer at the time so i could'nt send the output to you so you could interpret it for me. i will try to remember to do this when i get back to that computer. Dave H wrote: > Jim > Did you manage to do the ps -aux thing? I may have missed any reply with > it.. > Dave > G0CER > 2008/8/13 Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> This did not help. At one point and time I had all the permissions set to >> rwxrwxrwx which I believe means the whole world can use that port but it >> didn't help. >> >> >> Jim Morgan KE5MKT >> Midland, TX 79703-6318 >> USA >> 432.425.5606 >> >> >> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > From: Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm >> > To: "Jim Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:53 PM >> > Jim: Just a real long-shot >> > >> > As root: >> > chmod +x /dev/ttyS0 >> > >> > gerry >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave H >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>>> From: Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] >> > >> Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm >> > >>>> To: "Xastir - APRS client software >> > >> discussion" >> > >>>> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 2:57 PM >> > >>>> Jim >> > >>>> Have you got any results for this? - it >> > maybe >> > >> somethings >> > >>>> sitting on it and >> > >>>> you can kill that process - at least to >> > prove it >> > >> works, >> > >>>> then move onto >> > >>>> sorting out the problem with whatever is >> > sitting >> > >> on tyS0 >> > >>>> 73s >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> G0CER >> > >>>> >> > >>>> 2008/8/10 Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> I don't want to confuse things - >> > but would >> > >> you try >> > >>>> this to show if anything >> > >>>>> is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be >> > something you >> > >> ran >> > >>>> earlier. >> > >>>>> From a terminal screen type this and >> > enter.. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> there should be a list - perhaps copy >> > and >> > >> paste that >> > >>>> into a message >> > >>>>> (ignore the 'warning' >> > about'bad ps >> > >>>> syntax') >> > >>>>> Dave >> > >>>>> G0CER >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it >> > up and I >> > >> get >> > >>>> this error message >> > >>>>>>> "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: >> > Device >> > >> or >> > >>>> resource busy." >> > >>>>>>> So the question now is how do >> > I find >> > >> out what >> > >>>> is making the >> > >>>>>>> port busy and how do I turn it >> > off? >> > >>>>>> I bet there's a serial getty >> > sitting >> > >> on the >> > >>>> port right now for a serial >> > >>>>>> console. Look inside a file >> > called >> > >> /etc/inittab >> > >>>> for the serial port. You >> > >>>>>> can >> > >>>>>> do it this way: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> If it comes back with a line that >> > >> doesn
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
i did do it a couple of times but i wasn't connected to the net on that computer at the time so i could'nt send the output to you so you could interpret it for me. i will try to remember to do this when i get back to that computer. Dave H wrote: > Jim > Did you manage to do the ps -aux thing? I may have missed any reply with > it.. > Dave > G0CER > 2008/8/13 Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> This did not help. At one point and time I had all the permissions set to >> rwxrwxrwx which I believe means the whole world can use that port but it >> didn't help. >> >> >> Jim Morgan KE5MKT >> Midland, TX 79703-6318 >> USA >> 432.425.5606 >> >> >> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > From: Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm >> > To: "Jim Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:53 PM >> > Jim: Just a real long-shot >> > >> > As root: >> > chmod +x /dev/ttyS0 >> > >> > gerry >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave H >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>>> From: Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] >> > >> Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm >> > >>>> To: "Xastir - APRS client software >> > >> discussion" >> > >>>> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 2:57 PM >> > >>>> Jim >> > >>>> Have you got any results for this? - it >> > maybe >> > >> somethings >> > >>>> sitting on it and >> > >>>> you can kill that process - at least to >> > prove it >> > >> works, >> > >>>> then move onto >> > >>>> sorting out the problem with whatever is >> > sitting >> > >> on tyS0 >> > >>>> 73s >> > >>>> Dave >> > >>>> G0CER >> > >>>> >> > >>>> 2008/8/10 Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> I don't want to confuse things - >> > but would >> > >> you try >> > >>>> this to show if anything >> > >>>>> is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be >> > something you >> > >> ran >> > >>>> earlier. >> > >>>>> From a terminal screen type this and >> > enter.. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> there should be a list - perhaps copy >> > and >> > >> paste that >> > >>>> into a message >> > >>>>> (ignore the 'warning' >> > about'bad ps >> > >>>> syntax') >> > >>>>> Dave >> > >>>>> G0CER >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it >> > up and I >> > >> get >> > >>>> this error message >> > >>>>>>> "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: >> > Device >> > >> or >> > >>>> resource busy." >> > >>>>>>> So the question now is how do >> > I find >> > >> out what >> > >>>> is making the >> > >>>>>>> port busy and how do I turn it >> > off? >> > >>>>>> I bet there's a serial getty >> > sitting >> > >> on the >> > >>>> port right now for a serial >> > >>>>>> console. Look inside a file >> > called >> > >> /etc/inittab >> > >>>> for the serial port. You >> > >>>>>> can >> > >>>>>> do it this way: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> If it comes back with a line that >> > >> doesn
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Jim Did you manage to do the ps -aux thing? I may have missed any reply with it.. Dave G0CER 2008/8/13 Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This did not help. At one point and time I had all the permissions set to > rwxrwxrwx which I believe means the whole world can use that port but it > didn't help. > > > Jim Morgan KE5MKT > Midland, TX 79703-6318 > USA > 432.425.5606 > > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > > To: "Jim Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:53 PM > > Jim: Just a real long-shot > > > > As root: > > chmod +x /dev/ttyS0 > > > > gerry > > > > > >>> > > >>> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave H > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> From: Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] > > >> Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > > >>>> To: "Xastir - APRS client software > > >> discussion" > > >>>> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 2:57 PM > > >>>> Jim > > >>>> Have you got any results for this? - it > > maybe > > >> somethings > > >>>> sitting on it and > > >>>> you can kill that process - at least to > > prove it > > >> works, > > >>>> then move onto > > >>>> sorting out the problem with whatever is > > sitting > > >> on tyS0 > > >>>> 73s > > >>>> Dave > > >>>> G0CER > > >>>> > > >>>> 2008/8/10 Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>> > > >>>>> I don't want to confuse things - > > but would > > >> you try > > >>>> this to show if anything > > >>>>> is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be > > something you > > >> ran > > >>>> earlier. > > >>>>> From a terminal screen type this and > > enter.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> there should be a list - perhaps copy > > and > > >> paste that > > >>>> into a message > > >>>>> (ignore the 'warning' > > about'bad ps > > >>>> syntax') > > >>>>> Dave > > >>>>> G0CER > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it > > up and I > > >> get > > >>>> this error message > > >>>>>>> "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: > > Device > > >> or > > >>>> resource busy." > > >>>>>>> So the question now is how do > > I find > > >> out what > > >>>> is making the > > >>>>>>> port busy and how do I turn it > > off? > > >>>>>> I bet there's a serial getty > > sitting > > >> on the > > >>>> port right now for a serial > > >>>>>> console. Look inside a file > > called > > >> /etc/inittab > > >>>> for the serial port. You > > >>>>>> can > > >>>>>> do it this way: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If it comes back with a line that > > >> doesn't have > > >>>> a # in front, that's > > >>>>>> probably > > >>>>>> part of the problem. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I come back with > > nothing: > > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep ttyS0 > > /etc/inittab > > >>>>>> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file > > or > > >> directory > > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /root > > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo grep ttyS0 > > >> /etc/
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
This did not help. At one point and time I had all the permissions set to rwxrwxrwx which I believe means the whole world can use that port but it didn't help. Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Jim Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:53 PM > Jim: Just a real long-shot > > As root: > chmod +x /dev/ttyS0 > > gerry > > >>> > >>> --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave H > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >>>> From: Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] > >> Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > >>>> To: "Xastir - APRS client software > >> discussion" > >>>> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 2:57 PM > >>>> Jim > >>>> Have you got any results for this? - it > maybe > >> somethings > >>>> sitting on it and > >>>> you can kill that process - at least to > prove it > >> works, > >>>> then move onto > >>>> sorting out the problem with whatever is > sitting > >> on tyS0 > >>>> 73s > >>>> Dave > >>>> G0CER > >>>> > >>>> 2008/8/10 Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>>> I don't want to confuse things - > but would > >> you try > >>>> this to show if anything > >>>>> is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be > something you > >> ran > >>>> earlier. > >>>>> From a terminal screen type this and > enter.. > >>>>> > >>>>> sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 > >>>>> > >>>>> there should be a list - perhaps copy > and > >> paste that > >>>> into a message > >>>>> (ignore the 'warning' > about'bad ps > >>>> syntax') > >>>>> Dave > >>>>> G0CER > >>>>> > >>>>> 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it > up and I > >> get > >>>> this error message > >>>>>>> "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: > Device > >> or > >>>> resource busy." > >>>>>>> So the question now is how do > I find > >> out what > >>>> is making the > >>>>>>> port busy and how do I turn it > off? > >>>>>> I bet there's a serial getty > sitting > >> on the > >>>> port right now for a serial > >>>>>> console. Look inside a file > called > >> /etc/inittab > >>>> for the serial port. You > >>>>>> can > >>>>>> do it this way: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If it comes back with a line that > >> doesn't have > >>>> a # in front, that's > >>>>>> probably > >>>>>> part of the problem. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I come back with > nothing: > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep ttyS0 > /etc/inittab > >>>>>> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file > or > >> directory > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /root > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo grep ttyS0 > >> /etc/inittab > >>>>>> [sudo] password for jim: > >>>>>> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file > or > >> directory > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jim Morgan KE5MKT > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> ___ > >>>>>> Xastir mailing list > >>>>>> Xastir@xastir.org > >>>>>> > >> > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Dave > >>>>> G0CER > >>>>> (also G6VSG) > >>>>> http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Dave > >>>> G0CER > >>>> (also G6VSG) > >>>> http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > >>>> > ___ > >>>> Xastir mailing list > >>>> Xastir@xastir.org > >>>> > >> > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ > >>> Xastir mailing list > >>> Xastir@xastir.org > >>> > >> > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > >> > >> -- > >> Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > >> Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: > 979.862.3983 > >> Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, > College > >> Station, TX 77843 > > > > > > > > -- > Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College > Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Carl Makin wrote: On 12/08/2008, at 1:36 PM, Jim Morgan wrote: I really don't think the problem is a permissions issue. I can sudo xastir and get the same results. I can't quite put my finger on the issue. According to Xastir it is able to open /dev/ttyS0 but no communication happens between the tnc and the Do you have a serial mouse? Hmmm. If so check for "gpm". You might check for "gpsd" as well. -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On 12/08/2008, at 1:36 PM, Jim Morgan wrote: I really don't think the problem is a permissions issue. I can sudo xastir and get the same results. I can't quite put my finger on the issue. According to Xastir it is able to open /dev/ttyS0 but no communication happens between the tnc and the Do you have a serial mouse? Carl, vk1kcm. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Jim Morgan wrote: I really don't think the problem is a permissions issue. I can sudo xastir and get the same results. I can't quite put my finger on the issue. According to Xastir it is able to open /dev/ttyS0 but no communication happens between the tnc and the computer. Couple that with the fact that everytime I try to use GTKTerm I get a cannot open because ttyS0 is busy even if it is the first thing I try makes me think the computer actually has a screw loose somewhere and it keeps bouncing around messing stuff up. Tomorrow sometime I will do Dave's and Gerry's suggestions and see where that takes me. BTW- Gerry that little storm dumped almost 2" of rain on McCamey and over an ince in Odessa :) Should have left some hail somewhere too: There was quite a hail-core signature after it left your area! Good luck. 73 gerry -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
I really don't think the problem is a permissions issue. I can sudo xastir and get the same results. I can't quite put my finger on the issue. According to Xastir it is able to open /dev/ttyS0 but no communication happens between the tnc and the computer. Couple that with the fact that everytime I try to use GTKTerm I get a cannot open because ttyS0 is busy even if it is the first thing I try makes me think the computer actually has a screw loose somewhere and it keeps bouncing around messing stuff up. Tomorrow sometime I will do Dave's and Gerry's suggestions and see where that takes me. BTW- Gerry that little storm dumped almost 2" of rain on McCamey and over an ince in Odessa :) Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
While I was talking to him, he was logged in as root. I'd have thought root should have access to it... Bob Donnell wrote: It occurs to me that this could be an error message that's falsely reporting inability to find ttyS0, when in fact, it's reporting that the user that's trying to run gtkterm isn't a member of the group that owns ttyS0. So that user should be added to the group, and will need to log out and back in again. Hope that helps, 73, Bob, KD7NM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Creager Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:56 PM To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm Dave, I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit. He's successfully got gtkterm installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't find /dev/ttyS0 to open it. It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's connected to... I just don't know ubuntu and debian. gerry Dave H wrote: Jim I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the blue line is my input (pressing enter after) the rest is what comes back. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0 Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html root 6038 0.0 0.6 4864 2468 pts/2S+ Aug09 0:00 minicom ttyS0 davekh8413 0.0 0.1 2988 764 pts/4R+ 23:44 0:00 grep ttyS0 The line above that starts with root would be the one your are interested in .. its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 . Important - ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just telling you you just looked for ttyS0. If you can copy and past it in to a reply (select in terminal and then choose edit/copy) before taking any other action. Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Ah we're heading in the same direction in this enquiry.. Bob.. He could also try *sudo xastir* I guess and see if it finds ttyS0 itself then? G'night Dave G0CER 2008/8/12 Bob Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It occurs to me that this could be an error message that's falsely > reporting > inability to find ttyS0, when in fact, it's reporting that the user that's > trying to run gtkterm isn't a member of the group that owns ttyS0. So that > user should be added to the group, and will need to log out and back in > again. > > Hope that helps, > > 73, Bob, KD7NM > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > Of Gerry Creager > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:56 PM > To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > > Dave, > > I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit. He's successfully got gtkterm > installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't find > /dev/ttyS0 to open it. > > It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's > connected to... > > I just don't know ubuntu and debian. > > gerry > > Dave H wrote: > > Jim > > I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the > > blue line is my input (pressing enter after) the rest is what comes > back. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0 > > Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > http://procps.sf.net/faq.html > > root 6038 0.0 0.6 4864 2468 pts/2S+ Aug09 0:00 minicom > > ttyS0 > > davekh8413 0.0 0.1 2988 764 pts/4R+ 23:44 0:00 grep > ttyS0 > > > > The line above that starts with root would be the one your are > > interested in .. > > its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 . Important > > - ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just > > telling you you just looked for ttyS0. > > > > If you can copy and past it in to a reply (select in terminal and > > then choose edit/copy) before taking any other action. > > > > > > Dave > > G0CER > > (also G6VSG) > > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > > ___ > > Xastir mailing list > > Xastir@xastir.org > > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > > -- > Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Hi Gerry I don't know Fluxbuntu - but don't think its to far a variation of Ubuntu for basic communications like ttyS0 and so on.. I would suggest Jim does *ps -aux | grep ttyS* into a terminal that's stretched full-width of the screen to grab as much detail as possible (naturally there is others ways but keep it simple for now... ) Lets see what the whole of this brings please. ps -aux | grep ttyS I can't imagine either -the next stage might be user permissions and whether sudo is or isnt being used to run Xastir (frankly I forgot whether mine is at this point..!) however its past 1am here and I'm due back in work tomorrow morning after holidays. So I have to go - I'll take a look later on at work... ;) Jim can you get on anything like MSN or Yahoo or IRC to chat? I'd not say I'm anything of an expert with Ubuntu but this should provide a little evidence to move forward. Dave g0cer http://www.shropshire.lug.org.uk :) 2008/8/12 Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dave, > > I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit. He's successfully got gtkterm > installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't find > /dev/ttyS0 to open it. > > It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's > connected to... > > I just don't know ubuntu and debian. > > gerry > > Dave H wrote: > >> Jim >> I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the blue >> line is my input (pressing enter after) the rest is what comes back. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0 >> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See >> http://procps.sf.net/faq.html >> root 6038 0.0 0.6 4864 2468 pts/2S+ Aug09 0:00 minicom >> ttyS0 >> davekh8413 0.0 0.1 2988 764 pts/4R+ 23:44 0:00 grep >> ttyS0 >> >> The line above that starts with root would be the one your are interested >> in >> .. >> its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 . Important - >> ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just telling you >> you just looked for ttyS0. >> >> If you can copy and past it in to a reply (select in terminal and then >> choose edit/copy) before taking any other action. >> >> >> Dave >> G0CER >> (also G6VSG) >> http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER >> ___ >> Xastir mailing list >> Xastir@xastir.org >> http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir >> > > -- > Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
RE: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
It occurs to me that this could be an error message that's falsely reporting inability to find ttyS0, when in fact, it's reporting that the user that's trying to run gtkterm isn't a member of the group that owns ttyS0. So that user should be added to the group, and will need to log out and back in again. Hope that helps, 73, Bob, KD7NM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Creager Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:56 PM To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm Dave, I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit. He's successfully got gtkterm installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't find /dev/ttyS0 to open it. It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's connected to... I just don't know ubuntu and debian. gerry Dave H wrote: > Jim > I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the > blue line is my input (pressing enter after) the rest is what comes back. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0 > Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > http://procps.sf.net/faq.html > root 6038 0.0 0.6 4864 2468 pts/2S+ Aug09 0:00 minicom > ttyS0 > davekh8413 0.0 0.1 2988 764 pts/4R+ 23:44 0:00 grep ttyS0 > > The line above that starts with root would be the one your are > interested in .. > its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 . Important > - ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just > telling you you just looked for ttyS0. > > If you can copy and past it in to a reply (select in terminal and > then choose edit/copy) before taking any other action. > > > Dave > G0CER > (also G6VSG) > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Dave, I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit. He's successfully got gtkterm installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't find /dev/ttyS0 to open it. It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's connected to... I just don't know ubuntu and debian. gerry Dave H wrote: Jim I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the blue line is my input (pressing enter after) the rest is what comes back. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0 Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html root 6038 0.0 0.6 4864 2468 pts/2S+ Aug09 0:00 minicom ttyS0 davekh8413 0.0 0.1 2988 764 pts/4R+ 23:44 0:00 grep ttyS0 The line above that starts with root would be the one your are interested in .. its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 . Important - ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just telling you you just looked for ttyS0. If you can copy and past it in to a reply (select in terminal and then choose edit/copy) before taking any other action. Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Jim I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the blue line is my input (pressing enter after) the rest is what comes back. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0 Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html root 6038 0.0 0.6 4864 2468 pts/2S+ Aug09 0:00 minicom ttyS0 davekh8413 0.0 0.1 2988 764 pts/4R+ 23:44 0:00 grep ttyS0 The line above that starts with root would be the one your are interested in .. its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 . Important - ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just telling you you just looked for ttyS0. If you can copy and past it in to a reply (select in terminal and then choose edit/copy) before taking any other action. Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Dave H wrote: I don't want to confuse things - but would you try this to show if anything is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be something you ran earlier. From a terminal screen type this and enter.. sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 there should be a list - perhaps copy and paste that into a message (ignore the 'warning' about'bad ps syntax') Could also look for LOCK or LCK files in places like /var/lock/ -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
I did do it and it gave me a long string of numbers that started with 'jim' (my username). I guess the 4 digit number next to my name was the process that was running? If it is then I just "sudo kill ???" ? But if it is "jim" will that log me off? Jim Morgan KE5MKT Midland, TX 79703-6318 USA 432.425.5606 --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Xastir - APRS client software discussion" > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 2:57 PM > Jim > Have you got any results for this? - it maybe somethings > sitting on it and > you can kill that process - at least to prove it works, > then move onto > sorting out the problem with whatever is sitting on tyS0 > > 73s > Dave > G0CER > > 2008/8/10 Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I don't want to confuse things - but would you try > this to show if anything > > is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be something you ran > earlier. > > > > From a terminal screen type this and enter.. > > > > sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 > > > > there should be a list - perhaps copy and paste that > into a message > > (ignore the 'warning' about'bad ps > syntax') > > > > Dave > > G0CER > > > > 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> > >> > Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it up and I get > this error message > >> > "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Device or > resource busy." > >> > So the question now is how do I find out what > is making the > >> > port busy and how do I turn it off? > >> > >> > >> I bet there's a serial getty sitting on the > port right now for a serial > >> console. Look inside a file called /etc/inittab > for the serial port. You > >> can > >> do it this way: > >> > >> grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > >> > >> If it comes back with a line that doesn't have > a # in front, that's > >> probably > >> part of the problem. > >> > >> > >> > >> >>>I come back with nothing: > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > >> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /root > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > >> [sudo] password for jim: > >> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ > >> > >> Jim Morgan KE5MKT > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Xastir mailing list > >> Xastir@xastir.org > >> > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Dave > > G0CER > > (also G6VSG) > > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > > > > > > -- > Dave > G0CER > (also G6VSG) > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
Jim Have you got any results for this? - it maybe somethings sitting on it and you can kill that process - at least to prove it works, then move onto sorting out the problem with whatever is sitting on tyS0 73s Dave G0CER 2008/8/10 Dave H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't want to confuse things - but would you try this to show if anything > is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be something you ran earlier. > > From a terminal screen type this and enter.. > > sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 > > there should be a list - perhaps copy and paste that into a message > (ignore the 'warning' about'bad ps syntax') > > Dave > G0CER > > 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> > Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it up and I get this error message >> > "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy." >> > So the question now is how do I find out what is making the >> > port busy and how do I turn it off? >> >> >> I bet there's a serial getty sitting on the port right now for a serial >> console. Look inside a file called /etc/inittab for the serial port. You >> can >> do it this way: >> >> grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab >> >> If it comes back with a line that doesn't have a # in front, that's >> probably >> part of the problem. >> >> >> >> >>>I come back with nothing: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab >> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /root >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab >> [sudo] password for jim: >> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ >> >> Jim Morgan KE5MKT >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Xastir mailing list >> Xastir@xastir.org >> http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir >> > > > > -- > Dave > G0CER > (also G6VSG) > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER > -- Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
I don't want to confuse things - but would you try this to show if anything is sitting on ttyS0 (it might be something you ran earlier. >From a terminal screen type this and enter.. sudo ps -aux | grep ttyS0 there should be a list - perhaps copy and paste that into a message (ignore the 'warning' about'bad ps syntax') Dave G0CER 2008/8/10 Jim Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it up and I get this error message > > "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy." > > So the question now is how do I find out what is making the > > port busy and how do I turn it off? > > > I bet there's a serial getty sitting on the port right now for a serial > console. Look inside a file called /etc/inittab for the serial port. You > can > do it this way: > > grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > > If it comes back with a line that doesn't have a # in front, that's > probably > part of the problem. > > > > >>>I come back with nothing: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /root > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > [sudo] password for jim: > grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ > > Jim Morgan KE5MKT > > > > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@xastir.org > http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir > -- Dave G0CER (also G6VSG) http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?G0CER ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 09:56:47AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Jim Morgan wrote: > > > From: Jim Morgan > > Subject: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > > To: "Xastir" > > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:52 PM > > Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it up and I get this error message > > "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy." > > So the question now is how do I find out what is making the > > port busy and how do I turn it off? > > > I bet there's a serial getty sitting on the port right now for a serial > console. Look inside a file called /etc/inittab for the serial port. You > can do it this way: > > grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab > > If it comes back with a line that doesn't have a # in front, that's probably > part of the problem. Ubuntu doesn't use /etc/inittab, and the file doesn't exist on that system. Instead, ubuntu has files in /etc/event.d that start up getty on various ports. If there's a file /etc/event.d/ttyS0 then Alex's hypothesis might be correct. On my system there are only files for each of the virtual consoles, tty1-tty6. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours." -- R. Bach ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm
--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Jim Morgan wrote: > From: Jim Morgan > Subject: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm > To: "Xastir" > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:52 PM > Ok I loaded Gtkterm fired it up and I get this error message > "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy." > So the question now is how do I find out what is making the > port busy and how do I turn it off? I bet there's a serial getty sitting on the port right now for a serial console. Look inside a file called /etc/inittab for the serial port. You can do it this way: grep ttyS0 /etc/inittab If it comes back with a line that doesn't have a # in front, that's probably part of the problem. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
