Re: [XFree86] XFree86 PPC on a PC Matrox Millenium II

2003-03-10 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 21 February 2003 07:53 pm, you wrote:
 Neal,

 You don't mention which version of XFree86 v4.x you are running.

 That's a big missing piece. Maybe try one of the latest snapshots or
 at least 4.2.0.

OK. I am now using 4.2.1. And the card has *actually* initialized correctly
a time or three - the screen is fully displayed in the correct position and
the mouse is correctly aligned with the screen image.

However, it's a crap-shoot as to whether it'll come up properly. It's also
playing *new* tricks:
  - sometimes it displays the green/white/black checkerboard (or some
grey or other sparse pattern) at the top
  - sometimes it looks just fine, but the left edge of the display is
about 75% over to the right edge and the image is wrapped
  - sometimes there is a vertical bar of junk at that 75% location

Also, the MGA driver (correctly?) recognizes that it can't run acceleration
on the MMII, but then usually hangs the system, whereas if I specify
NoAccel, it starts up, most often with the afore-mentioned problems.

I'd try Matrox's drivers, but they're only compiled for Intel (at least
I haven't seen any PPC versions). And I'm not sure I have the patience
to compile the kernel and all of X, then figure out where Matrox's
source is supposed to go to be compiled, then compile all of X yet again
all on this slow-ish 200MHz, 96MB Starmax...

If it matters at all, I'm running Debian's 2.2.20-pmac kernel. I've tried
their 2.4.19 kernel, but that one always boots up using the on-board
video, even though OF tells it to use the MMII.

Again, MacOS 9.x uses the MMII just fine.

Any suggestions? Perhaps I'm too persistent and should simple drop the
MMII into the circular file as 'not very well supported' and buy a new
card that *is* well supported? Dump the Starmax and get a real computer?
Thoughts?

Thanks,
Fest3er

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Re: [XFree86] XFree86 PPC on a PC Matrox Millenium II

2003-03-10 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Neal Murphy wrote:

 Also, the MGA driver (correctly?) recognizes that it can't run acceleration
 on the MMII, but then usually hangs the system, whereas if I specify
 NoAccel, it starts up, most often with the afore-mentioned problems.

??? The MMII should have no problem with 2D acceleration, which is what 
NoAccel turns off. XFree86 doesn't do 3D (DRI) accel on the MMII, which
might be what it is saying. I disable it with
Option  DRI false

 
 I'd try Matrox's drivers, but they're only compiled for Intel (at least
 I haven't seen any PPC versions). And I'm not sure I have the patience
 to compile the kernel and all of X, then figure out where Matrox's
 source is supposed to go to be compiled, then compile all of X yet again
 all on this slow-ish 200MHz, 96MB Starmax...
 
 If it matters at all, I'm running Debian's 2.2.20-pmac kernel. I've tried
 their 2.4.19 kernel, but that one always boots up using the on-board
 video, even though OF tells it to use the MMII.
 
 Again, MacOS 9.x uses the MMII just fine.
 
 Any suggestions? Perhaps I'm too persistent and should simple drop the
 MMII into the circular file as 'not very well supported' and buy a new
 card that *is* well supported? Dump the Starmax and get a real computer?
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Fest3er
 
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[XFree86] XFree86 PPC on a PC Matrox Millenium II

2003-02-21 Thread Neal Murphy
[This is the third time I've tried to subscribe. Last two times, the
subscribe emails were returned as 'undeliverable' - seems the host I
was using could not send the email, so I'm trying my ISP's servers now,
slow as they are.]

Howdy!

I've a question about running XFree86 v4 on a Starmax using an 8MB MMII
that was originally intended for use in a PC.

I re-flashed the card with a PPC BIOS. MacOS 9 is quite happy to use
the card now. Openfirmware gladly uses it, too. Debian 3 uses the card
just fine in text mode.

However, when running X, the displayed image (root image) is shifted down
about 16 scan lines, leaving a green-and-black multi-checkerboard at the top.
The hardware mouse cursor is positioned correctly, but since the image
displayed is shifted down 16 pixels or so, the registration is wrong. I also
lose the bottom 16 or so lines of the display.

I've tried everything I know to try to work around this. Is this a programming
bug? Is it referencing the card's memory wrong? Any ideas on 'correcting'
the problem?

Clearly, I could go buy a Mac-specific video card, but since MacOS happily
uses this card, I should think XFree86 would, too.

Thanks,
Neal
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Re: [XFree86] XFree86 PPC on a PC Matrox Millenium II

2003-02-21 Thread Alan Hourihane
Neal,

You don't mention which version of XFree86 v4.x you are running.

That's a big missing piece. Maybe try one of the latest snapshots or
at least 4.2.0.

Alan.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:45:18PM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote:
 [This is the third time I've tried to subscribe. Last two times, the
 subscribe emails were returned as 'undeliverable' - seems the host I
 was using could not send the email, so I'm trying my ISP's servers now,
 slow as they are.]
 
 Howdy!
 
 I've a question about running XFree86 v4 on a Starmax using an 8MB MMII
 that was originally intended for use in a PC.
 
 I re-flashed the card with a PPC BIOS. MacOS 9 is quite happy to use
 the card now. Openfirmware gladly uses it, too. Debian 3 uses the card
 just fine in text mode.
 
 However, when running X, the displayed image (root image) is shifted down
 about 16 scan lines, leaving a green-and-black multi-checkerboard at the top.
 The hardware mouse cursor is positioned correctly, but since the image
 displayed is shifted down 16 pixels or so, the registration is wrong. I also
 lose the bottom 16 or so lines of the display.
 
 I've tried everything I know to try to work around this. Is this a programming
 bug? Is it referencing the card's memory wrong? Any ideas on 'correcting'
 the problem?
 
 Clearly, I could go buy a Mac-specific video card, but since MacOS happily
 uses this card, I should think XFree86 would, too.
 
 Thanks,
 Neal
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Re: [XFree86] XFree86 PPC on a PC Matrox Millenium II

2003-02-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 21 February 2003 07:53 pm, Alan Hourihane wrote:
 Neal,

 You don't mention which version of XFree86 v4.x you are running.

 That's a big missing piece. Maybe try one of the latest snapshots or
 at least 4.2.0.


Oh. Duh! Whatever comes with Debian 3.0.

X -version:

warning: process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
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XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
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Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17 i686 [ELF] 
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Thanks,
Fest3er
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