[xmail] Re: wierd network lockup on win2k prof XMail server

2003-01-05 Thread Frederik Gallon

This is beyond the scope of a xmail forum but:
a) does your external NIC have a valid IP? check with 'ipconfig /all'
b) does it have a valid gateway adress - ping to your gateway
c) check your system logs  apps logs on win nt for resource porblems with
your external NIC

What kind of connection do you have to internet?? If adsl or cable check
with 'ipconfig /all' if you have recieved a valid IP from the upstream
DHCP-server. If not shut down your server for 30 mins and shutdown cable or
adsl box. refire the box and server. If you still wouldn't recieve a valid
IP adress; complain to your ISP.

PS a 'valid' IP is one you can ping from an other ISP.

Good luck
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no, what would a DHCP server have to do with the network going dead on
my mail server?
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 Do you use cable or adsl ?
 ever heard about a overloaded DHCP server?
 This could explain your behaviour
 
 Frederik
 
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 I have XMail running on a win2k machine and it seems like every couple of
 days the network
 locks up. I can't ping anything, the mail stops working, and the machine
 can't communicate with
 the network.
 After a reboot it starts working fine again
 Anyone ever seen this type of thing happen?
 
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[xmail] Re: Backup MX

2003-01-05 Thread Frederik Gallon

Check the archives of this forum. I've seen lots of articles handling backup
Mx and stuff.

Greets,

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Where can I read more about this configuration? I REALLY need to setup a
backup MX, the server is up and everything but i've not taken the time to do
this.

Last time the server was down (it's NEVER something small, always some odd
shit that requires a reinstall of redhat) I had something crazy like 70%
uptime that week, and email bouncing everywhere while I setup a new server
then took it down to transition back to the original server, total mess.

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Ok am setting the -Qt timeout, -Qi ratio, and -Qr nretries values on my
back mailserver.=20
I don't wuite follow the formula in the docs for -Qi ratio.  What should
this value be.
Ultimate goal is to have the backup mailserver hold the mail for at
least a week trying to resend without losing any messages.

Thanks,
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[xmail] move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Paul Heijman

L.S.

I have two servers: one running Win2k and one running Debian. At the
moment the Win2k server is running a couple of mail domains, but I would
like to move them to the Linux server. (so I can take the Win2k server
offline and upgrade it to Debian ;-)

What is the best way to do this?
I have total control over the DNS entries for all domains. Should I
replicate mailusers.tab and the domains dir on the Linux server and then
change the dns entries or is this too simple? Also, what happens 'in
between': when a remote mail server has the old dns entry still in cache
and the user has the new entry? Or the other way around of course...

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Michal Altair Valasek

Hello,

If you need to move mail server, the recommended way is the following:

In the following I expect that old.domain.tld is old mail server,
new.domain.tld is new mail server for domain.tld.

1. Setup new.domain.tld as backup mail exchanger for domain.tld (it =
means:
setup the xmail using custdomains).
2. Setup DNS to have old.domain.tld as primary MX (as already is) and
new.domain.tld as secondary MX.
3. Wait some time, determined by refresh parameters of domain.tld.
4. Stop old.domain.tld and let it stopped forever.
5. Migrate all users and mailboxes to new server. It can be done by =
simply
moving the config files and mailboxes, but if moving between NT and UN*X =
you
need to change line ends accordingly. Don't forget to remove custdomains
from new.domain.tld.
6. Remove MX entry for old.domain.tld.

In the scenario above, no mail would be lost.

 P. F. 2003 - http://www.rider.cz/PF2K3/ 

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

I would rather move all the users and their Maildirs to the new server and
change the DNS entries and shutdown the old server. Mail might bounce from
some senders for a few hours, but after that it'll work great. Do some
testing first to see if you can just copy the domains folder and all your
config files over to the other server, since im not positive a
cross-platform transition would work.



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Asunto: [xmail] Re: move domains



Hello,

If you need to move mail server, the recommended way is the following:

In the following I expect that old.domain.tld is old mail server,
new.domain.tld is new mail server for domain.tld.

1. Setup new.domain.tld as backup mail exchanger for domain.tld (it =
means:
setup the xmail using custdomains).
2. Setup DNS to have old.domain.tld as primary MX (as already is) and
new.domain.tld as secondary MX.
3. Wait some time, determined by refresh parameters of domain.tld.
4. Stop old.domain.tld and let it stopped forever.
5. Migrate all users and mailboxes to new server. It can be done by =
simply
moving the config files and mailboxes, but if moving between NT and UN*X =
you
need to change line ends accordingly. Don't forget to remove custdomains
from new.domain.tld.
6. Remove MX entry for old.domain.tld.

In the scenario above, no mail would be lost.

 P. F. 2003 - http://www.rider.cz/PF2K3/ 

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Michal Altair Valasek

| I would rather move all the users and their Maildirs to the 
| new server and
| change the DNS entries and shutdown the old server. Mail 
| might bounce from
| some senders for a few hours, but after that it'll work great.

Yes, it's too possible (and more simple), but it's not clean solution. But
it depends on how many users you have and how important it is.

-- Altair

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Paul Heijman

Hi,

If I understand the docs etc. I have to use the following in
'custdomains/domain.tld.tab' on the new server:
smtprelaytabip.old.server
Can I leave the defaults for -Qt, -Qi and -Qr? I think so because the
old server isn't down (yet)...

Tia,

Paul

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Subject: [xmail] Re: move domains



Hello,

If you need to move mail server, the recommended way is the following:

In the following I expect that old.domain.tld is old mail server,
new.domain.tld is new mail server for domain.tld.

1. Setup new.domain.tld as backup mail exchanger for domain.tld (it =
means:
setup the xmail using custdomains).
2. Setup DNS to have old.domain.tld as primary MX (as already is) and
new.domain.tld as secondary MX. 3. Wait some time, determined by refresh
parameters of domain.tld. 4. Stop old.domain.tld and let it stopped
forever. 5. Migrate all users and mailboxes to new server. It can be
done by = simply moving the config files and mailboxes, but if moving
between NT and UN*X = you need to change line ends accordingly. Don't
forget to remove custdomains from new.domain.tld. 6. Remove MX entry for
old.domain.tld.

In the scenario above, no mail would be lost.

 P. F. 2003 - http://www.rider.cz/PF2K3/ 

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

In that case you want to remove the old server as MX and setup the new
server as the primary MX, but the config should be as backup MX. When no
more mail is going to the old server (within 6 hours, but maybe 8-12 to be
safe) then shut down BOTH and transfer the files to the new one and make
sure it's no longer setup as backup MX for those domains. I'd also change
the address of the server to be the same as the old one so your clients dont
need to change their email settings.

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Hi,

If I understand the docs etc. I have to use the following in
'custdomains/domain.tld.tab' on the new server:
smtprelaytabip.old.server
Can I leave the defaults for -Qt, -Qi and -Qr? I think so because the
old server isn't down (yet)...

Tia,

Paul

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Subject: [xmail] Re: move domains



Hello,

If you need to move mail server, the recommended way is the following:

In the following I expect that old.domain.tld is old mail server,
new.domain.tld is new mail server for domain.tld.

1. Setup new.domain.tld as backup mail exchanger for domain.tld (it =
means:
setup the xmail using custdomains).
2. Setup DNS to have old.domain.tld as primary MX (as already is) and
new.domain.tld as secondary MX. 3. Wait some time, determined by refresh
parameters of domain.tld. 4. Stop old.domain.tld and let it stopped
forever. 5. Migrate all users and mailboxes to new server. It can be
done by = simply moving the config files and mailboxes, but if moving
between NT and UN*X = you need to change line ends accordingly. Don't
forget to remove custdomains from new.domain.tld. 6. Remove MX entry for
old.domain.tld.

In the scenario above, no mail would be lost.

 P. F. 2003 - http://www.rider.cz/PF2K3/ 

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Michal Altair Valasek

| If I understand the docs etc. I have to use the following in
| 'custdomains/domain.tld.tab' on the new server:
| smtprelaytabip.old.server

I recommmend to use simply smtp delivery for custdomains.

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[xmail] Re: wierd network lockup on win2k prof XMail server

2003-01-05 Thread DigitalPitstop

my problem is the server it self can not ping anything
The network dies. It has an ip and all

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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 6:30 AM
Subject: [xmail] Re: wierd network lockup on win2k prof XMail server



 This is beyond the scope of a xmail forum but:
 a) does your external NIC have a valid IP? check with 'ipconfig /all'
 b) does it have a valid gateway adress - ping to your gateway
 c) check your system logs  apps logs on win nt for resource porblems with
 your external NIC

 What kind of connection do you have to internet?? If adsl or cable check
 with 'ipconfig /all' if you have recieved a valid IP from the upstream
 DHCP-server. If not shut down your server for 30 mins and shutdown cable
or
 adsl box. refire the box and server. If you still wouldn't recieve a valid
 IP adress; complain to your ISP.

 PS a 'valid' IP is one you can ping from an other ISP.

 Good luck
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 no, what would a DHCP server have to do with the network going dead on
 my mail server?
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  Do you use cable or adsl ?
  ever heard about a overloaded DHCP server?
  This could explain your behaviour
 
  Frederik
 
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  I have XMail running on a win2k machine and it seems like every couple
of
  days the network
  locks up. I can't ping anything, the mail stops working, and the machine
  can't communicate with
  the network.
  After a reboot it starts working fine again
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[xmail] Re: wierd network lockup on win2k prof XMail server

2003-01-05 Thread Troy Rodriguez

It sounds to me like you have either hardware problem with you NIC card
or you should try uninstalling TCP/IP from you adapter and reinstalling
it. I have had this problem with a 3com nic before and had to reinstall
drivers. Might wanna take a look at that...but am willing to bet it is
not an xmail server problem.

Troy

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my problem is the server it self can not ping anything
The network dies. It has an ip and all

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From: Frederik Gallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 6:30 AM
Subject: [xmail] Re: wierd network lockup on win2k prof XMail server



 This is beyond the scope of a xmail forum but:
 a) does your external NIC have a valid IP? check with 'ipconfig /all'
 b) does it have a valid gateway adress - ping to your gateway
 c) check your system logs  apps logs on win nt for resource porblems
with
 your external NIC

 What kind of connection do you have to internet?? If adsl or cable
check
 with 'ipconfig /all' if you have recieved a valid IP from the upstream
 DHCP-server. If not shut down your server for 30 mins and shutdown
cable
or
 adsl box. refire the box and server. If you still wouldn't recieve a
valid
 IP adress; complain to your ISP.

 PS a 'valid' IP is one you can ping from an other ISP.

 Good luck
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 no, what would a DHCP server have to do with the network going dead on
 my mail server?
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 Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:15 PM
 Subject: [xmail] Re: wierd network lockup on win2k prof XMail server


 
  Do you use cable or adsl ?
  ever heard about a overloaded DHCP server?
  This could explain your behaviour
 
  Frederik
 
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  I have XMail running on a win2k machine and it seems like every
couple
of
  days the network
  locks up. I can't ping anything, the mail stops working, and the
machine
  can't communicate with
  the network.
  After a reboot it starts working fine again
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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Frederik Gallon

Guys be carefull ...

My last domain transfer (that is IP-change of a mailserver) it took 5 DAYS
to be propagated worldwide !
Some ISP think they can obey TTL and use their own refresh-rates. (It saves
them backbone trafic ??)
Just to let you know.

Frederik

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| If I understand the docs etc. I have to use the following in
| 'custdomains/domain.tld.tab' on the new server:
| smtprelaytabip.old.server

I recommmend to use simply smtp delivery for custdomains.

-- Altair

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[xmail] Re: move domains

2003-01-05 Thread Troy Rodriguez

Does the debian server host any mail domains as of right now or is it
setup as a backup?

Troy

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L.S.

I have two servers: one running Win2k and one running Debian. At the
moment the Win2k server is running a couple of mail domains, but I would
like to move them to the Linux server. (so I can take the Win2k server
offline and upgrade it to Debian ;-)

What is the best way to do this?
I have total control over the DNS entries for all domains. Should I
replicate mailusers.tab and the domains dir on the Linux server and then
change the dns entries or is this too simple? Also, what happens 'in
between': when a remote mail server has the old dns entry still in cache
and the user has the new entry? Or the other way around of course...

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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