[xmail] Re: Absolute priority email address !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Tracy
At 20:33 2/14/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > But because that is possible with SMTP filters, it should have very low
> > priority (imho).
>
>  Here you've lost me :(, how is possible with SMTP filters to bypass RBLS
>and spammers.tab, can I have a small example please ???

Turn off the checks inside Xmail, and do them in filters.pre-data.tab filters.

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[xmail] Re: Absolute priority email address !!!

2005-02-14 Thread mircea
> On Monday, February 14, 2005 7:00 PM [GMT+1=CET],
> Tracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The mods to do this aren't terribly hard, but I'm not comfortable
>> enough=20 with the quality of my code to be able to share it with
>> anyone. If someone= =20
>> wants to discuss it in the abstract (for instance, in preparations
>> to=20 making their own modifications), I'd be happy to do so, on or
>> off list.
>
> Maybe something like RCPT/MAIL_FROM - whitelisting should go natevily into
> XMail sometime. There are always customers and users that _WANT_ to get
> all
> the holy spam and virus shit ;)

 Ok, unfortunately this is 169% true.

>
> But because that is possible with SMTP filters, it should have very low
> priority (imho).

 Here you've lost me :(, how is possible with SMTP filters to bypass RBLS
and spammers.tab, can I have a small example please ???


  Best regards,

  Mircea Ciocan


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[xmail] Re: GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Dale Qualls
I'll give it a shot this weekend and try again in RL3.
 
Thanks!
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/14/2005 2:05 PM >>>
On Monday, February 14, 2005 8:58 PM [GMT+1=CET],
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> s43xmail is in both rc3.d and rc5.d, s80sendmail only shows up in
> rc3.d. Should I whack the rc5.d/s80sendmail?

YES !
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[xmail] Re: GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Sönke Ruempler
On Monday, February 14, 2005 8:58 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Dale Qualls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> s43xmail is in both rc3.d and rc5.d, s80sendmail only shows up in
> rc3.d.  Should I whack the rc5.d/s80sendmail?

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[xmail] Re: GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Dale Qualls
I'll check 'em out, thanks Soenke!
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/14/2005 1:14:43 PM >>>
On Monday, February 14, 2005 7:25 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Dale Qualls < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

> Okay, here's a strange one that doesn't make sense to me.
>
> RH8.0, XMail 1.21, ClamAV, Pete's AV filter, SA3.02, modified SA
> filter.
>
> Changing inittab runlevel to "3" from "5" to save resources from X
> starting up hoses the box (default font not found errors). Changing
> GDM startup in the gui from "graphical greeter" to "standard
greeter"
> for both local and remote has the exact same effect (changing the
> inittab back or replacing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf with a backup
> corrects it).
>
> During this time XMail will NOT receive any mail (either internal or
> external). SMTP is running and I can telnet to it but nothing is
> received.
>
> I can, however, send e-mails externally (internally are never
> received).
>
> Restoring the backup gdm.conf file and/or changing the inittab and
> rebooting the server corrects the issue though. Is XMail dependent
on
> GDM somehow?

Mhm XMail works here without any GUI :)

Maybe XMail gots killed in runlevel 5? Check your rc.d S?? and K??
links. 
Imho it has something to do with the start and kill links ... 

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[xmail] Re: GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Dale Qualls
Thanks Don, xmail shows up as a running process and I can send outbound
internet e-mail while in runlevel 3, just can't receive.
 
s43xmail is in both rc3.d and rc5.d, s80sendmail only shows up in
rc3.d.  Should I whack the rc5.d/s80sendmail?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/14/2005 1:12:45 PM >>>
Are you sure XMail is running in runlevel 3? Sendmail could be running
instead. Did you copy the startup script to /etc/rc3.d/ ?

-Don

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Subject: [xmail] GDM interferes with Xmail?

Okay, here's a strange one that doesn't make sense to me.

RH8.0, XMail 1.21, ClamAV, Pete's AV filter, SA3.02, modified SA
filter.

Changing inittab runlevel to "3" from "5" to save resources from X
starting up hoses the box (default font not found errors). Changing
GDM
startup in the gui from "graphical greeter" to "standard greeter" for
both local and remote has the exact same effect (changing the inittab
back or replacing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf with a backup corrects
it).

During this time XMail will NOT receive any mail (either internal or
external). SMTP is running and I can telnet to it but nothing is
received.

I can, however, send e-mails externally (internally are never
received).

Restoring the backup gdm.conf file and/or changing the inittab and
rebooting the server corrects the issue though. Is XMail dependent on
GDM somehow?

I'm going to have to scrap the box and rebuild to get rid of the
graphical startup, nothing I've tried will allow it to be disabled
without causing me all of this grief, what a pain in the neck :)

Thanks!




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[xmail] Re: GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Sönke Ruempler
On Monday, February 14, 2005 7:25 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Dale Qualls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay, here's a strange one that doesn't make sense to me.
>
> RH8.0, XMail 1.21, ClamAV, Pete's AV filter, SA3.02, modified SA
> filter.
>
> Changing inittab runlevel to "3" from "5" to save resources from X
> starting up hoses the box (default font not found errors).  Changing
> GDM startup in the gui from "graphical greeter" to "standard greeter"
> for both local and remote has the exact same effect (changing the
> inittab back or replacing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf with a backup
> corrects it).
>
> During this time XMail will NOT receive any mail (either internal or
> external).  SMTP is running and I can telnet to it but nothing is
> received.
>
> I can, however, send e-mails externally (internally are never
> received).
>
> Restoring the backup gdm.conf file and/or changing the inittab and
> rebooting the server corrects the issue though.  Is XMail dependent on
> GDM somehow?

Mhm XMail works here without any GUI :)

Maybe XMail gots killed in runlevel 5? Check your rc.d S?? and K?? links. 
Imho it has something to do with the start and kill links ... 

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[xmail] Re: GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Don Drake
Are you sure XMail is running in runlevel 3? Sendmail could be running
instead. Did you copy the startup script to /etc/rc3.d/ ?

-Don

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Subject: [xmail] GDM interferes with Xmail?

Okay, here's a strange one that doesn't make sense to me.
 
RH8.0, XMail 1.21, ClamAV, Pete's AV filter, SA3.02, modified SA
filter.
 
Changing inittab runlevel to "3" from "5" to save resources from X
starting up hoses the box (default font not found errors).  Changing GDM
startup in the gui from "graphical greeter" to "standard greeter" for
both local and remote has the exact same effect (changing the inittab
back or replacing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf with a backup corrects it).
 
During this time XMail will NOT receive any mail (either internal or
external).  SMTP is running and I can telnet to it but nothing is
received.
 
I can, however, send e-mails externally (internally are never
received).
 
Restoring the backup gdm.conf file and/or changing the inittab and
rebooting the server corrects the issue though.  Is XMail dependent on
GDM somehow?
 
I'm going to have to scrap the box and rebuild to get rid of the
graphical startup, nothing I've tried will allow it to be disabled
without causing me all of this grief, what a pain in the neck :)
 
Thanks!




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[xmail] Re: Absolute priority email address !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Sönke Ruempler
On Monday, February 14, 2005 7:00 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Tracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The mods to do this aren't terribly hard, but I'm not comfortable
> enough=20 with the quality of my code to be able to share it with
> anyone. If someone= =20
> wants to discuss it in the abstract (for instance, in preparations
> to=20 making their own modifications), I'd be happy to do so, on or
> off list.

Maybe something like RCPT/MAIL_FROM - whitelisting should go natevily into 
XMail sometime. There are always customers and users that _WANT_ to get all 
the holy spam and virus shit ;)

But because that is possible with SMTP filters, it should have very low 
priority (imho). 

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[xmail] Re: Domain alias with [0.0.0.0] has crash

2005-02-14 Thread Sönke Ruempler
On Monday, February 14, 2005 11:02 AM [GMT+1=CET],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have stoped the xmail and inserted a manual entry at
> aliasdomain.tab: "[200.245.124.131]"TAB"realdomain.com"CRLF
> TAB is a real tab caracter and CRLF is real crlf caracter

Which XMail version?

Why didn't you use the CTRL protocol by doing this? Changing indexed tab 
files by hand is _DANGEROUS_!

>
> After some minutes the xmail has crash with the above error, in some
> times the xmail works for 1 hour:
>
> "The XMail Server service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1
> time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 0
> milliseconds: Restart the service."
>
> None more informations are avariable, no Dr. Watson or others.
>
> I have deleted the entry line but the xmail has a permanent crashing
> now with a random uptime, only with the full backup restore the xmail
> has works fine again.

Maybe your indicies got corrupted. Stop XMail and delete everything from 
tabindex/ directory then start XMail again.

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[xmail] smtp log not rolling

2005-02-14 Thread Dale Qualls
Okay, question #2.
 
The SMTP log isn't rolling/rotating.  All of the other logs are fine. 
The SMTP log has been gathering data since January 27th.
 
Here's the CMD_LINE from /etc/rc.d/init.d/xmail (and yes, the "l"
characters are lower case "L"s):
XMAIL_CMD_LINE="-Qt 600 -Qi 0 -Qr 672 -Ql -Pl -Mr 720 -Sl -Fl -Cl -Ll"
 
Any ideas on this one?
 
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[xmail] GDM interferes with Xmail?

2005-02-14 Thread Dale Qualls
Okay, here's a strange one that doesn't make sense to me.
 
RH8.0, XMail 1.21, ClamAV, Pete's AV filter, SA3.02, modified SA
filter.
 
Changing inittab runlevel to "3" from "5" to save resources from X
starting up hoses the box (default font not found errors).  Changing GDM
startup in the gui from "graphical greeter" to "standard greeter" for
both local and remote has the exact same effect (changing the inittab
back or replacing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf with a backup corrects it).
 
During this time XMail will NOT receive any mail (either internal or
external).  SMTP is running and I can telnet to it but nothing is
received.
 
I can, however, send e-mails externally (internally are never
received).
 
Restoring the backup gdm.conf file and/or changing the inittab and
rebooting the server corrects the issue though.  Is XMail dependent on
GDM somehow?
 
I'm going to have to scrap the box and rebuild to get rid of the
graphical startup, nothing I've tried will allow it to be disabled
without causing me all of this grief, what a pain in the neck :)
 
Thanks!




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[xmail] Re: Absolute priority email address !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Tracy
At 12:51 2/14/2005, S=F6nke Ruempler wrote:
> >   I have this problem, we have a customer ( politician of course) that
> > really needs ( or belives he needs) all the mail to his
> > address to reach
> > him, no matter if the sender is in some RBL, specifically black-listed
> > in spammers IP blocks or other method of filtering.
> >  I've deald appropiately with SpamAssassin and local filters,
> > but is there
> > a method to bypass( white list) the RBLS and spmammer.tab on
> > recipient addresss not on sender ??=3D20
>
>You can only whitelist IPs / subnets with XMail (smtp.ipprop.tab), but
>no email addresses. Afaik the blacklist checks are done before the
>RCPT's are sent. So the only way would be writing a filter or tuning SA
>(it can do RBL checks, too).=3D20

I ended up doing custom mods to the SMTP code to delay rejects for all=20
checks until after RCPT TO - then I moved all my checks out into a pre-data=
=20
filter. One of the things this allowed me to do is to establish local=20
policy levels - for instance, it allows me to automatically accept any mail=
=20
destined for my role accounts without regard to whether it comes from=20
blacklisted or blocked space.

The mods to do this aren't terribly hard, but I'm not comfortable enough=20
with the quality of my code to be able to share it with anyone. If someone=
=20
wants to discuss it in the abstract (for instance, in preparations to=20
making their own modifications), I'd be happy to do so, on or off list.

Tracy=20

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[xmail] Re: Absolute priority email address !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Sönke Ruempler
Hi,

>   I have this problem, we have a customer ( politician of course) that
> really needs ( or belives he needs) all the mail to his
> address to reach
> him, no matter if the sender is in some RBL, specifically black-listed
> in spammers IP blocks or other method of filtering.
>  I've deald appropiately with SpamAssassin and local filters,
> but is there
> a method to bypass( white list) the RBLS and spmammer.tab on
> recipient addresss not on sender ??=20

You can only whitelist IPs / subnets with XMail (smtp.ipprop.tab), but
no email addresses. Afaik the blacklist checks are done before the
RCPT's are sent. So the only way would be writing a filter or tuning SA
(it can do RBL checks, too).=20

--

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[xmail] Absolute priority email address !!!

2005-02-14 Thread mircea
  Hi All,


  I have this problem, we have a customer ( politician of course) that
really needs ( or belives he needs) all the mail to his address to reach
him, no matter if the sender is in some RBL, specifically black-listed
in spammers IP blocks or other method of filtering.
 I've deald appropiately with SpamAssassin and local filters, but is there
a method to bypass( white list) the RBLS and spmammer.tab on recipient
addresss not on sender ??

  Thank you for any help and best regards,

   Mircea

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[xmail] Domain alias with [0.0.0.0] has crash

2005-02-14 Thread lascjr
Hi,

I have stoped the xmail and inserted a manual entry at aliasdomain.tab:
"[200.245.124.131]"TAB"realdomain.com"CRLF
TAB is a real tab caracter and CRLF is real crlf caracter

After some minutes the xmail has crash with the above error, in some times
the xmail works for 1 hour:

"The XMail Server service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1
time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 0 milliseconds:
Restart the service."

None more informations are avariable, no Dr. Watson or others.

I have deleted the entry line but the xmail has a permanent crashing now
with a random uptime, only with the full backup restore the xmail has works
fine again.

thanks

Luis A S C Junior

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