[xmail] Re: imap
XMail doesn't support IMAP. - Original Message - From: "Erwin Meulensteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [xmail] imap > Hello, > can anyone tell me how to setup imap on a windows server using xmail ? > Any help would be appreciated. > All the best, > Erwin > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
Oops - my apologies - thanks for catching that. I am trying to do too many things today. Here are two emails (with the same subject and message identifier (1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net) this time). From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:49 PM To: Jeff Buehler Subject: Error sending message [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net] [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached] [<01>] Error sending message [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net]. ID: Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Server: [delmone.com] [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached [<05>] Here is listed the initial part of the message: Received: from BuehlerTechAntiSpam ([127.0.0.1]:58144) by antispam.buehlertech.net ([127.0.0.1]:25) with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:04 -0800 Received: from 71.134.90.35 ([71.134.90.35] helo=mail.interoceanss.com) by BuehlerTechAntiSpam ; 20 Jan 06 18:11:02 - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C61DEC.DE69A4EC" Subject: test4 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:00 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test4 Thread-Index: AcYd7N33dm49C2YAQOGUDPl2HKf/bg== From: "Jeff Buehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: Buehler Technologies Anti-virus ClamSMTP From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:25 PM To: Jeff Buehler Subject: Error sending message [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net] [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached] [<01>] Error sending message [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net]. ID: Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Server: [delmone.com] [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached [<05>] Here is listed the initial part of the message: Received: from BuehlerTechAntiSpam ([127.0.0.1]:58144) by antispam.buehlertech.net ([127.0.0.1]:25) with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:04 -0800 Received: from 71.134.90.35 ([71.134.90.35] helo=mail.interoceanss.com) by BuehlerTechAntiSpam ; 20 Jan 06 18:11:02 - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C61DEC.DE69A4EC" Subject: test4 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:00 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test4 Thread-Index: AcYd7N33dm49C2YAQOGUDPl2HKf/bg== From: "Jeff Buehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: Buehler Technologies Anti-virus ClamSMTP Jeff Leonardo Fogel wrote: >--- Jeff Buehler wrote: > > > >>At any rate, the strange part is that each of the >>messages I sent IS >>from the same email. >> >> > >No, Jeff. They are from different e-mails. Look at the >subjects, please: test4 and test3. > >Regards. > > > > > > > > >___ >Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. >http://br.yahoo.com/homepageset.html > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
--- Jeff Buehler wrote: > At any rate, the strange part is that each of the > messages I sent IS > from the same email. No, Jeff. They are from different e-mails. Look at the subjects, please: test4 and test3. Regards. ___ Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. http://br.yahoo.com/homepageset.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Jeff Buehler wrote: > > Yes - I despise Exchange, personally. However, talking the people > holding the money out of using Exchange and going with LDAP/IMAP is like > telling them that their father is a moron. They look dumbfounded and > then proceed as if nothing was said. I host entirely on FreeBSD and I > am just doing SPAM/AntiVirus filtering for this particular client. > > At any rate, the strange part is that each of the messages I sent IS > from the same email. So, XMail is seeing two different messages (as you > pointed out) but it is actually from the SAME send, so it must be > getting duplicated by one of the other applications(?). So, as you > mention, there is obviously something in the configuration that is > causing the trouble. Note that the same message sent to N different accounts, gets split in N different messages by XMail. And if all of those N messages bounce, you'll get N bounce messages. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
Yes - I despise Exchange, personally. However, talking the people holding the money out of using Exchange and going with LDAP/IMAP is like telling them that their father is a moron. They look dumbfounded and then proceed as if nothing was said. I host entirely on FreeBSD and I am just doing SPAM/AntiVirus filtering for this particular client. At any rate, the strange part is that each of the messages I sent IS from the same email. So, XMail is seeing two different messages (as you pointed out) but it is actually from the SAME send, so it must be getting duplicated by one of the other applications(?). So, as you mention, there is obviously something in the configuration that is causing the trouble. I will keep looking into it and report what I find for posteritys sake! Thanks, Jeff Davide Libenzi wrote: >On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Jeff Buehler wrote: > > > >>Hmmm - ok, let me look at this a little deeper (and thanks for your input!). >> >>In answer to your questions: >> >>Exchange has its own domain, but only handles internal email (so >>outbound is Exchange -> ASSP -> (clamSMTP) -> Xmail -> INTERNET or >>inbound is INTERNET->ASSP -> (clamSMTP) -> XMail -> Exchange). Xmail >>does forward the error messages to Exchange by using "smtprelay" in >>cmdalias - it does not actually have a mail account for the Exchange >>user, it just relays. Postmaster does receive errors as well, but they >>seem inconsistent with the others - I need to research this point a bit >>more and see if I am receiving more than 1 error to this account as >>well, but I don't think I am. >> >>It appears that I am not getting one email for each failure - rather, it >>appears to be some random number of bounce emails (sometimes 3, >>sometimes 5, and so on). >> >>Two complete examples (from the same failure) follow: >> >> > >Those refer to two different messages ... > > > > >>From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:03 PM >>To: Jeff Buehler >>Subject: Error sending message >>[1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from >> >> >^^^ > > >and > > > > >>From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:22 PM >>To: Jeff Buehler >>Subject: Error sending message >>[1137775892511.135234560.250.banshee.buehlertech.net] from >> >> >^^^ > >Something funky is going on with your setup. I don't know what, but a wild >guess is that removing MS Exchange will have a 98% probability of fixing it :) > > > >- Davide > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Jeff Buehler wrote: > > Hmmm - ok, let me look at this a little deeper (and thanks for your input!). > > In answer to your questions: > > Exchange has its own domain, but only handles internal email (so > outbound is Exchange -> ASSP -> (clamSMTP) -> Xmail -> INTERNET or > inbound is INTERNET->ASSP -> (clamSMTP) -> XMail -> Exchange). Xmail > does forward the error messages to Exchange by using "smtprelay" in > cmdalias - it does not actually have a mail account for the Exchange > user, it just relays. Postmaster does receive errors as well, but they > seem inconsistent with the others - I need to research this point a bit > more and see if I am receiving more than 1 error to this account as > well, but I don't think I am. > > It appears that I am not getting one email for each failure - rather, it > appears to be some random number of bounce emails (sometimes 3, > sometimes 5, and so on). > > Two complete examples (from the same failure) follow: Those refer to two different messages ... > > From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:03 PM > To: Jeff Buehler > Subject: Error sending message > [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from ^^^ and > > From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:22 PM > To: Jeff Buehler > Subject: Error sending message > [1137775892511.135234560.250.banshee.buehlertech.net] from ^^^ Something funky is going on with your setup. I don't know what, but a wild guess is that removing MS Exchange will have a 98% probability of fixing it :) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] imap
Hello, can anyone tell me how to setup imap on a windows server using xmail ? Any help would be appreciated. All the best, Erwin - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
Thats what I thought should happen, but my Exchange users are verifiably getting multiple (it seems to be random) bounces back. Only my Exchange users seem to be affected - users accessing from a standard email client are getting the correct (single bounce) behavior). Jeff Davide Libenzi wrote: >On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Jeff Buehler wrote: > > > >>I see. Any thoughts on what my be causing the repeat error bounces? >>Has anyone else run into this problem? >>If not, I would guess it has to do with the Exchange/ASSP/XMail >>relationship somehow since that is the only distinct thing about my >>configuration from a standard one... >>Davide, can you think of anything that may have changed between >>1.20/1.21 and 1.22 that might affect this? >> >> > >The one below is a standard bounce message that happen (only once per >message - maximum) if the maximum number of delivery attempts is reached. > > > > Ah ... I was unaware of that setting. It's commented out, which according to the documentation would seem to suggest that the errors aren't (or shouldn't be) coming from XMail at all. However, the headers indicate (to me, anyway!) that they are - here is an abbreviated example: From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:31 AM To: Jens Jensen Subject: Error sending message [1137452256244.135361536.4d65.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net] [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached] > > > >- Davide > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
Hmmm - ok, let me look at this a little deeper (and thanks for your input!). In answer to your questions: Exchange has its own domain, but only handles internal email (so outbound is Exchange -> ASSP -> (clamSMTP) -> Xmail -> INTERNET or inbound is INTERNET->ASSP -> (clamSMTP) -> XMail -> Exchange). Xmail does forward the error messages to Exchange by using "smtprelay" in cmdalias - it does not actually have a mail account for the Exchange user, it just relays. Postmaster does receive errors as well, but they seem inconsistent with the others - I need to research this point a bit more and see if I am receiving more than 1 error to this account as well, but I don't think I am. It appears that I am not getting one email for each failure - rather, it appears to be some random number of bounce emails (sometimes 3, sometimes 5, and so on). Two complete examples (from the same failure) follow: From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:03 PM To: Jeff Buehler Subject: Error sending message [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net] [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached] [<01>] Error sending message [1137780666750.135234560.3ee.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net]. ID: Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Server: [delmone.com] [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached [<05>] Here is listed the initial part of the message: Received: from BuehlerTechAntiSpam ([127.0.0.1]:58144) by antispam.buehlertech.net ([127.0.0.1]:25) with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:04 -0800 Received: from 71.134.90.35 ([71.134.90.35] helo=mail.interoceanss.com) by BuehlerTechAntiSpam ; 20 Jan 06 18:11:02 - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C61DEC.DE69A4EC" Subject: test4 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:11:00 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test4 Thread-Index: AcYd7N33dm49C2YAQOGUDPl2HKf/bg== From: "Jeff Buehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: Buehler Technologies Anti-virus ClamSMTP - From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:22 PM To: Jeff Buehler Subject: Error sending message [1137775892511.135234560.250.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net] [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached] [<01>] Error sending message [1137775892511.135234560.250.banshee.buehlertech.net] from [buehlertech.net]. ID: Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Server: [delmone.com] [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: The maximum number of delivery attempts has been reached [<05>] Here is listed the initial part of the message: Received: from BuehlerTechAntiSpam ([127.0.0.1]:54200) by antispam.buehlertech.net ([127.0.0.1]:25) with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:51:32 -0800 Received: from 71.134.90.35 ([71.134.90.35] helo=mail.interoceanss.com) by BuehlerTechAntiSpam ; 20 Jan 06 16:51:31 - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C61DE1.C3D28DF8" Subject: test3 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:51:17 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test3 Thread-Index: AcYd4buU0P6OtpNtTT+mAMHshLq35g== From: "Jeff Buehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: Buehler Technologies Anti-virus ClamSMTP Thanks, Jeff Leonardo Fogel wrote: >--- Jeff Buehler wrote : > > > >>Right now I have XMail set to >>try 10 times, so there >>seem to be 10 emails that are sent to notify the >>sender of the failure. >> >>(...) >>Exchange users that have this problem - XMail is >>running on FreeBSD, but >>a number of Exchange users send through it as shown: >> >>Exchange -> ASSP (anti-spam proxy) ->XMail -> >>Internet - the problem >>definitely happens with this flow >> >> >> > >Some thoughts: >As far as I know from XMail, a bounce (error) message >is like any other message, i.e., XMail will try to >deliver them the same way and it will make the same >number of tries if it needs. So, if you configure >XMail to make N tries to send a message and it fails >(and the sender's domain is not handled by XMail), it >will also make at most N tries to send (forward) the >error message. > >Questions: does Exchange handle a domain of
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Jeff Buehler wrote: > > I see. Any thoughts on what my be causing the repeat error bounces? > Has anyone else run into this problem? > If not, I would guess it has to do with the Exchange/ASSP/XMail > relationship somehow since that is the only distinct thing about my > configuration from a standard one... > Davide, can you think of anything that may have changed between > 1.20/1.21 and 1.22 that might affect this? The one below is a standard bounce message that happen (only once per message - maximum) if the maximum number of delivery attempts is reached. >>> Ah ... I was unaware of that setting. It's commented out, which >>> according to the documentation would seem to suggest that the errors >>> aren't (or shouldn't be) coming from XMail at all. However, the headers >>> indicate (to me, anyway!) that they are - here is an abbreviated example: >>> >>> From: buehlertech.net PostMaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:31 AM >>> To: Jens Jensen >>> Subject: Error sending message >>> [1137452256244.135361536.4d65.banshee.buehlertech.net] from >>> [buehlertech.net] >>> >>> [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[The maximum number >>> of delivery attempts has been reached] - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Error messages returned to sender replicated
--- Jeff Buehler wrote : > Right now I have XMail set to > try 10 times, so there > seem to be 10 emails that are sent to notify the > sender of the failure. > > (...) > Exchange users that have this problem - XMail is > running on FreeBSD, but > a number of Exchange users send through it as shown: > > Exchange -> ASSP (anti-spam proxy) ->XMail -> > Internet - the problem > definitely happens with this flow > Some thoughts: As far as I know from XMail, a bounce (error) message is like any other message, i.e., XMail will try to deliver them the same way and it will make the same number of tries if it needs. So, if you configure XMail to make N tries to send a message and it fails (and the sender's domain is not handled by XMail), it will also make at most N tries to send (forward) the error message. Questions: does Exchange handle a domain of its own? Does XMail have to forward the error messages to Exchange? Maybe Exchange is accepting the error messages, but it is also reporting an error to XMail, forcing XMail to make the N tries. Does the XMail postmaster (ErrorsAdmin in server.tab) receive any error? Please, send the _entire_ source code of one or two error messages, including its headers. We will be able to compare the PeekTimes reported by XMail and the Received headers of the messages (if there are any). Regards. ___ Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. http://br.yahoo.com/homepageset.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
