[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-10 Thread Frederik Gallon

Michal,

We all use sniffers to find network problems. It's not the MTA that has to
be intelligent on that part. (Anyway - you refer to M$ exchange and it's
monitoring capabilities... Ever looked into the results? It's crap !!
Believe me)

Here you find a good Public Domain packet sniffer:
http://analyzer.polito.it/

Good luck,

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 Van: Michal Hradil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Verzonden: zondag 9 maart 2003 3:59
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 Actually don't you think that this kind of log will safe you 
 hundreds of answers to bother man like me :-)
 
 mic
 
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  Yes I did. It prints just the beginning and end of
  communication. I am talking about full communication log. 
  Basically everything what you send and receive. Are you 
  somehow against this ?
  
  mic
  
   
Anyway, I understand that you are not developing additional 
functionality just because someone in conference ask for,
  but would
you consider to do it if there will be more users interested ?
   
   Did you try to run XMail in debug mode from a console :
   
   C: XMail --debug -Md ...
   
   - Davide
   
  
  
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-10 Thread Michal Hradil

Hi,

  ok. I guess I will not convince anybody, that it is good idea. Just
note: I am using Exchange crap-log a lot and it helped me several
times.

mic

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 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:50 AM
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 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 Michal,
 
 We all use sniffers to find network problems. It's not the 
 MTA that has to be intelligent on that part. (Anyway - you 
 refer to M$ exchange and it's monitoring capabilities... Ever 
 looked into the results? It's crap !! Believe me)
 
 Here you find a good Public Domain packet sniffer: 
 http://analyzer.polito.it/
 
 Good luck,
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: Michal Hradil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Verzonden: zondag 9 maart 2003 3:59
  Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Onderwerp: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  Actually don't you think that this kind of log will safe you
  hundreds of answers to bother man like me :-)
  
  mic
  
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michal Hradil
   Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:31 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
   
   
   
   Yes I did. It prints just the beginning and end of 
 communication. I 
   am talking about full communication log. Basically 
 everything what 
   you send and receive. Are you somehow against this ?
   
   mic
   

 Anyway, I understand that you are not developing additional
 functionality just because someone in conference ask for,
   but would
 you consider to do it if there will be more users interested ?

Did you try to run XMail in debug mode from a console :

C: XMail --debug -Md ...

- Davide

   
   
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-09 Thread Bill Healy

Install Network Monitor service and capture the network traffic with it.

Bill

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Sent:  Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:56 PM
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:-) well, I have it Win2000Server - I do not think, that I want give all
our data to the rest of the world. But thank you.

mic

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 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 Set the server as DMZ host in the routers' config.
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de Michal Hradil
 Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:06 PM
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 D-link wireless 614+ or somethink like that - I mean - it was 
 not really cheap :-) but the price was in wireless think.
 
 mic
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Joakimsen
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:01 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  What router is it?
  
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  nombre de Michal Hradil
  Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:59 PM
  Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually
  delivered, so if you are saying My e-mail server cannot 
  resolve DNS to IP - it will not be a case. Again - it looks 
  like the new router just sometimes drop or cannot establish 
  the connection. Problem is that I cannot prove this without 
  full logging ability as I described earlier.
  
  mic
  
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
   Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:52 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
   
   
   
   On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
   
   
Hi,
   
  I am using version 1.10 and I have some serious 
 problems with it 
after I was forced to temporarily change our standard
   router to some
cheap alternative. I think problem is definitely not in
   xmail, but in
router, however I can imagine better behavior of mail
   server in such
situation. I was trying to find out what is really
   happening, but the
best I can say is that outgoing e-mails cannot be delivered
   from two
different
reasons:
   
- remote machine forcibly closed a connection
- relaying denied
   
Is there any way how to enable full xmail logging, so xmail
   will log
all the communication with the rest of the world ?
   
   Very likely you have turned off outbound DNS traffic. The XMail 
   machine, when SmartDNSHost is not set, tries to directly 
 perform DNS 
   queries.
   
   
   
   - Davide
   
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually delivered, so if
you are saying My e-mail server cannot resolve DNS to IP - it will not
be a case. Again - it looks like the new router just sometimes drop or
cannot establish the connection. Problem is that I cannot prove this
without full logging ability as I described earlier.

mic

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
I am using version 1.10 and I have some serious problems with it 
  after I was forced to temporarily change our standard 
 router to some 
  cheap alternative. I think problem is definitely not in 
 xmail, but in 
  router, however I can imagine better behavior of mail 
 server in such 
  situation. I was trying to find out what is really 
 happening, but the 
  best I can say is that outgoing e-mails cannot be delivered 
 from two 
  different
  reasons:
 
  - remote machine forcibly closed a connection
  - relaying denied
 
  Is there any way how to enable full xmail logging, so xmail 
 will log 
  all the communication with the rest of the world ?
 
 Very likely you have turned off outbound DNS traffic. The 
 XMail machine, when SmartDNSHost is not set, tries to 
 directly perform DNS queries.
 
 
 
 - Davide
 
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

What router is it?

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
nombre de Michal Hradil
Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:59 PM
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems



Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually delivered, so if
you are saying My e-mail server cannot resolve DNS to IP - it will not
be a case. Again - it looks like the new router just sometimes drop or
cannot establish the connection. Problem is that I cannot prove this
without full logging ability as I described earlier.

mic

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
I am using version 1.10 and I have some serious problems with it 
  after I was forced to temporarily change our standard 
 router to some 
  cheap alternative. I think problem is definitely not in 
 xmail, but in 
  router, however I can imagine better behavior of mail 
 server in such 
  situation. I was trying to find out what is really 
 happening, but the 
  best I can say is that outgoing e-mails cannot be delivered 
 from two 
  different
  reasons:
 
  - remote machine forcibly closed a connection
  - relaying denied
 
  Is there any way how to enable full xmail logging, so xmail 
 will log 
  all the communication with the rest of the world ?
 
 Very likely you have turned off outbound DNS traffic. The 
 XMail machine, when SmartDNSHost is not set, tries to 
 directly perform DNS queries.
 
 
 
 - Davide
 
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

D-link wireless 614+ or somethink like that - I mean - it was not really
cheap :-) but the price was in wireless think.

mic

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Joakimsen
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 What router is it?
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de Michal Hradil
 Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:59 PM
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually 
 delivered, so if you are saying My e-mail server cannot 
 resolve DNS to IP - it will not be a case. Again - it looks 
 like the new router just sometimes drop or cannot establish 
 the connection. Problem is that I cannot prove this without 
 full logging ability as I described earlier.
 
 mic
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:52 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
  
  
   Hi,
  
 I am using version 1.10 and I have some serious problems with it
   after I was forced to temporarily change our standard 
  router to some
   cheap alternative. I think problem is definitely not in
  xmail, but in
   router, however I can imagine better behavior of mail
  server in such
   situation. I was trying to find out what is really
  happening, but the
   best I can say is that outgoing e-mails cannot be delivered
  from two
   different
   reasons:
  
   - remote machine forcibly closed a connection
   - relaying denied
  
   Is there any way how to enable full xmail logging, so xmail
  will log
   all the communication with the rest of the world ?
  
  Very likely you have turned off outbound DNS traffic. The
  XMail machine, when SmartDNSHost is not set, tries to 
  directly perform DNS queries.
  
  
  
  - Davide
  
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

Set the server as DMZ host in the routers' config.

-Mensaje original-
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nombre de Michal Hradil
Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:06 PM
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems



D-link wireless 614+ or somethink like that - I mean - it was not really
cheap :-) but the price was in wireless think.

mic

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Joakimsen
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 What router is it?
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de Michal Hradil
 Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:59 PM
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually 
 delivered, so if you are saying My e-mail server cannot 
 resolve DNS to IP - it will not be a case. Again - it looks 
 like the new router just sometimes drop or cannot establish 
 the connection. Problem is that I cannot prove this without 
 full logging ability as I described earlier.
 
 mic
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:52 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
  
  
   Hi,
  
 I am using version 1.10 and I have some serious problems with it
   after I was forced to temporarily change our standard 
  router to some
   cheap alternative. I think problem is definitely not in
  xmail, but in
   router, however I can imagine better behavior of mail
  server in such
   situation. I was trying to find out what is really
  happening, but the
   best I can say is that outgoing e-mails cannot be delivered
  from two
   different
   reasons:
  
   - remote machine forcibly closed a connection
   - relaying denied
  
   Is there any way how to enable full xmail logging, so xmail
  will log
   all the communication with the rest of the world ?
  
  Very likely you have turned off outbound DNS traffic. The
  XMail machine, when SmartDNSHost is not set, tries to 
  directly perform DNS queries.
  
  
  
  - Davide
  
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

Yes I know, I just though that for you it will not be a big deal to put
this kind of log in there and for all of this would be great feature.

mic

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:49 PM
 To: XMail mailing list
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
 
 
  Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually 
 delivered, so 
  if you are saying My e-mail server cannot resolve DNS to IP - it 
  will not be a case. Again - it looks like the new router just 
  sometimes drop or cannot establish the connection. Problem 
 is that I 
  cannot prove this without full logging ability as I 
 described earlier.
 
 If it is a network problem a sniffer will help you more than 
 XMail logs.
 
 
 
 
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

:-) well, I have it Win2000Server - I do not think, that I want give all
our data to the rest of the world. But thank you.

mic

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Joakimsen
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 Set the server as DMZ host in the routers' config.
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de Michal Hradil
 Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:06 PM
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
 
 
 
 D-link wireless 614+ or somethink like that - I mean - it was 
 not really cheap :-) but the price was in wireless think.
 
 mic
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Joakimsen
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:01 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  What router is it?
  
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  nombre de Michal Hradil
  Enviado el: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:59 PM
  Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Asunto: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
  
  
  
  Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually
  delivered, so if you are saying My e-mail server cannot 
  resolve DNS to IP - it will not be a case. Again - it looks 
  like the new router just sometimes drop or cannot establish 
  the connection. Problem is that I cannot prove this without 
  full logging ability as I described earlier.
  
  mic
  
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
   Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:52 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [xmail] Re: Cheap router problems
   
   
   
   On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
   
   
Hi,
   
  I am using version 1.10 and I have some serious 
 problems with it 
after I was forced to temporarily change our standard
   router to some
cheap alternative. I think problem is definitely not in
   xmail, but in
router, however I can imagine better behavior of mail
   server in such
situation. I was trying to find out what is really
   happening, but the
best I can say is that outgoing e-mails cannot be delivered
   from two
different
reasons:
   
- remote machine forcibly closed a connection
- relaying denied
   
Is there any way how to enable full xmail logging, so xmail
   will log
all the communication with the rest of the world ?
   
   Very likely you have turned off outbound DNS traffic. The XMail 
   machine, when SmartDNSHost is not set, tries to directly 
 perform DNS 
   queries.
   
   
   
   - Davide
   
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

Why not upgrade XMail? Be warned that AFAIK the latest version uses a
different maildir format.

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Yes I know, I just though that for you it will not be a big deal to put
this kind of log in there and for all of this would be great feature.

mic

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 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:

 
  Sorry, I was not precise. Some e-mails can be actually
 delivered, so
  if you are saying My e-mail server cannot resolve DNS to IP - it
  will not be a case. Again - it looks like the new router just
  sometimes drop or cannot establish the connection. Problem
 is that I
  cannot prove this without full logging ability as I
 described earlier.

 If it is a network problem a sniffer will help you more than
 XMail logs.




 - Davide

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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

I see what you saying (I have all the logs enabled), but don't you think
that full log would help a lot (and not just in my case). I am
actually using it on MS Exchange 5.3 and I have to say it is helpful to
check out all communication between mail servers. Sometimes is not the
important information on the line with error code, but in earlier
communication.

Anyway, I understand that you are not developing additional
functionality just because someone in conference ask for, but would you
consider to do it if there will be more users interested ?

mic

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 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michal Hradil wrote:
 
 
  Yes I know, I just though that for you it will not be a big deal to 
  put this kind of log in there and for all of this would be great 
  feature.
 
 There *are* logs, you have just to enable them in the command 
 line ( see doc ). You can also run XMail in debug mode ( see 
 doc ). But if it's a network problem you'll see nothing more 
 than a failing operation. The sniffer is what you're looking 
 for if the problem is network related.
 
 
 
 - Davide
 
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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

Yes I did. It prints just the beginning and end of communication. I am
talking about full communication log. Basically everything what you send
and receive. Are you somehow against this ?

mic

 
  Anyway, I understand that you are not developing additional 
  functionality just because someone in conference ask for, but would 
  you consider to do it if there will be more users interested ?
 
 Did you try to run XMail in debug mode from a console :
 
 C: XMail --debug -Md ...
 
 - Davide
 


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[xmail] Re: Cheap router problems

2003-03-08 Thread Michal Hradil

Actually don't you think that this kind of log will safe you hundreds of
answers to bother man like me :-)

mic

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 Yes I did. It prints just the beginning and end of 
 communication. I am talking about full communication log. 
 Basically everything what you send and receive. Are you 
 somehow against this ?
 
 mic
 
  
   Anyway, I understand that you are not developing additional
   functionality just because someone in conference ask for, 
 but would 
   you consider to do it if there will be more users interested ?
  
  Did you try to run XMail in debug mode from a console :
  
  C: XMail --debug -Md ...
  
  - Davide
  
 
 
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