Re: [ydl-gen] Blender

2009-08-26 Thread Derick Centeno
Saludos Luis!

Un abraso desde un Borinqueño celebrando la belleza de La Vida con
usted y amistades!

Ok.  In answer to your question it is best to access a public server
close to your country so that the download is bearable.  Two ways to
get this done.  Modify yum so that it points to those servers, and
let it do the work for you (finding all the dependencies, etc.) or
you can download the package directly from the public server yourself.

First option:  modifying yum.  Yum has gone through some changes over
time but if you follow the instructions posted here you should be ok.
Here's the link:  

http://us.fixstars.com/support/solutions/ydl_6.x/yum.shtml/

The information there is compressed so it is easy to miss.  The
reference regarding yum.repos.d for instance means that within
/etc (the etc directory) you should find /yum.repos.d (the yum.repos.d
directory).  Within /yum.repos.d should be the other files
including yellowdog-base.repo.  Each distinct file must point to the
correct public server; this means that the directories listed in
each file must exactly reflect the actual directories on the
public server which you want yum to access.  Following this method,
if you are going to add a server in each file, you must of course,
write into each file that server's directory structure for ydl 6.1
correctly -- a total of three times.

The old way modify yum to do the same thing is to modify yum.conf
which is also within /etc.  You still have to write the directory out
correctly three times, but this time you are only modifying yum.conf
-- one file.  The only thing you save may be your temper and
maybe avoid writer's cramp.  Which method you choose is up to you,
but the current way of doing it -- the harder way -- actually helps
keep yum secure, although explaining how is beyond this note.

I'm going to imagine that you understand this and present to you a
link to where you can find public servers for ydl.  They are here:

http://us.fixstars.com/support/downloads/

Scroll down that page and you'll see the available public mirrors.
I recommend you view/visit the public mirror you think you will use
and learn how it's set up for yellowdog first before you decide to
modify yum.  Work on yum after you have a clear idea of how the
directories are ordered within that server for ydl 6.1.  Keep in mind
that although different versions of ydl are ordered the same within
one server -- different servers may have different directory
structures/order in which ydl 6.1 resides.

I'm going to imagine that all the above has been done and you are
ready for yum to find and install Blender for you.  How do you do
that?  Here is the really simple part, after you endured all
the above:

#yum install "*blender*"

That's it!  Really.  Te le judo!  I promise you.  Ironic, isn't it?

The * are wildcards which tells yum to find any other package of
software associated with blender.  Yum will find them and sort out
all their dependencies and blender's dependencies at the same time.
The result will be studio quality software on your ydl box.  Just so
you get the feeling you are actually doing something -- after all yum
did the real work anyway -- I would recommend a decent text which
uses and discusses blender in some length.  Towards that end I
recommend two books by Norman Lin, they are:
Linux 3D Graphics Programming and Advanced Linux 3D Graphics
Programming.

Without yum, you'll be downloading Blender components and
dependencies and dependencies of those dependencies one at a time and
you will risk missing something.  Just thought I'd let you know both
that the "easy" and "hard" way in reference to Blender is a matter of
interpretation, but if I were you I'd get to work with a Corona or
Dos XX on the side and get yum ready to search and download from
various servers.

As for me, I don't have a preference; I enjoy them both. One day one,
then I swap and do the other some days later.  I refer to Dos XX and
Corona, of course.

Buena Suerte y recuerdas a engosarse algún tiempo...

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:32:00 -0500
Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz  wrote:

> Hi @ll,
> 
> I wonder if anyone has the blender rpm for yd6.1
> 
> TIA
> 
> LD


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Re: [ydl-gen] Blender

2009-08-26 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 16:51:29, Derick Centeno a écrit :
> Saludos Luis!
>
> Un abraso desde un Borinqueño celebrando la belleza de La Vida con
> usted y amistades!
>
> Ok.  In answer to your question it is best to access a public server
> close to your country so that the download is bearable.  Two ways to
> get this done.  Modify yum so that it points to those servers, and
> let it do the work for you (finding all the dependencies, etc.) or
> you can download the package directly from the public server yourself.
>
> First option:  modifying yum.  Yum has gone through some changes over
> time but if you follow the instructions posted here you should be ok.
> Here's the link:
>
> http://us.fixstars.com/support/solutions/ydl_6.x/yum.shtml/
>
> The information there is compressed so it is easy to miss.  The
> reference regarding yum.repos.d for instance means that within
> /etc (the etc directory) you should find /yum.repos.d (the yum.repos.d
> directory).  Within /yum.repos.d should be the other files
> including yellowdog-base.repo.  Each distinct file must point to the
> correct public server; this means that the directories listed in
> each file must exactly reflect the actual directories on the
> public server which you want yum to access.  Following this method,
> if you are going to add a server in each file, you must of course,
> write into each file that server's directory structure for ydl 6.1
> correctly -- a total of three times.
>
> The old way modify yum to do the same thing is to modify yum.conf
> which is also within /etc.  You still have to write the directory out
> correctly three times, but this time you are only modifying yum.conf
> -- one file.  The only thing you save may be your temper and
> maybe avoid writer's cramp.  Which method you choose is up to you,
> but the current way of doing it -- the harder way -- actually helps
> keep yum secure, although explaining how is beyond this note.
>
> I'm going to imagine that you understand this and present to you a
> link to where you can find public servers for ydl.  They are here:
>
> http://us.fixstars.com/support/downloads/
>
> Scroll down that page and you'll see the available public mirrors.
> I recommend you view/visit the public mirror you think you will use
> and learn how it's set up for yellowdog first before you decide to
> modify yum.  Work on yum after you have a clear idea of how the
> directories are ordered within that server for ydl 6.1.  Keep in mind
> that although different versions of ydl are ordered the same within
> one server -- different servers may have different directory
> structures/order in which ydl 6.1 resides.
>
> I'm going to imagine that all the above has been done and you are
> ready for yum to find and install Blender for you.  How do you do
> that?  Here is the really simple part, after you endured all
> the above:
>
> #yum install "*blender*"
>
> That's it!  Really.  Te le judo!  I promise you.  Ironic, isn't it?
>
> The * are wildcards which tells yum to find any other package of
> software associated with blender.  Yum will find them and sort out
> all their dependencies and blender's dependencies at the same time.
> The result will be studio quality software on your ydl box.  Just so
> you get the feeling you are actually doing something -- after all yum
> did the real work anyway -- I would recommend a decent text which
> uses and discusses blender in some length.  Towards that end I
> recommend two books by Norman Lin, they are:
> Linux 3D Graphics Programming and Advanced Linux 3D Graphics
> Programming.
>
> Without yum, you'll be downloading Blender components and
> dependencies and dependencies of those dependencies one at a time and
> you will risk missing something.  Just thought I'd let you know both
> that the "easy" and "hard" way in reference to Blender is a matter of
> interpretation, but if I were you I'd get to work with a Corona or
> Dos XX on the side and get yum ready to search and download from
> various servers.
>
> As for me, I don't have a preference; I enjoy them both. One day one,
> then I swap and do the other some days later.  I refer to Dos XX and
> Corona, of course.
>
> Buena Suerte y recuerdas a engosarse algún tiempo...
>
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:32:00 -0500
>
> Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz  wrote:
> > Hi @ll,
> >
> > I wonder if anyone has the blender rpm for yd6.1
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > LD
Many thanx

the fact is that blender rpm is not available in repos. Look:
[r...@ps3 yum.repos.d]# yum list|grep -i blender
[r...@ps3 yum.repos.d]#


Is there any other repos other than base, update and extra?

Thanx

LD
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Re: [ydl-gen] Blender

2009-08-26 Thread Derick Centeno
Unfortunately Luis the only language I know besides English is
Spanish.  Your server is in France or a French country?

I'll make a stronger effort to clarify my English for your benefit.
Also I want to recommend Google Translate which allows fairly good
translation between Spanish, French and English.

To our communications problem: Those files in yum.repos.d are
instructions to yum in which servers on the web to look for rpms in.
Those files do not contain the rpms themselves.  If you open one of
the files (with a text editor) you will see that it is very much like
the example link I referred to you.

The reason you got no response from your system is because blender is
not installed on your computer. yum can search servers on the web
external to your computer and compare what is there with what you
have on your hard-drive and inform you whether it is installed or not.
I executed the same command you used, on my own system.  Here is the
result:

[r...@arakus aguila]# yum list|grep -i blender
blender.ppc  2.45-17.el5
installed [r...@arakus aguila]# 

Your computer responded as it did because yum discovered that blender
is not present and so it represented the non-presence of blender by
reporting nothing.  I'm using YDL 6.2.  However I know that blender
is part of the package of software available for YDL 6.1 because I
also used YDL 6.1 and other earlier versions of YDL.  

I'm going to execute running yum to list and provide information
regarding blender.  I'll share the results here and I'd like you on
your system to run the same sequence of commands I did.  Ok?

Here goes:

[agu...@arakus ~]$ su
Password: 
[r...@arakus aguila]# yum info "*blender*"
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
base  100% |=| 1.1 kB 00:00
updates   100% |=|  951 B 00:00
extras100% |=|  951 B 00:00
Installed Packages Name   : blender Arch   : ppc Version: 2.45
Release: 17.el5
Size   : 27 M
Repo   : installed
Summary: 3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production

Description:
Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
modeling, animation, rendering and post-production to interactive
creation and playback.

Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish
stand-alone, secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and
other media.

This version doesn't contains ffmpeg support.


[r...@arakus aguila]# 

The above is how yum responded to my command to inform me something
about blender.  If you execute the same command you will get the same
result.  You don't have to be in yum.repos.d to execute yum.

Here is another command to yum to find blender and anything else
associated with blender:

[r...@arakus aguila]# yum search blender
Loading "installonlyn" plugin



blender.ppc  2.45-17.el5
extras Matched from:
blender
Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
modeling, animation, rendering and post-production to interactive
creation and playback.

Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish
stand-alone, secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and
other media.

This version doesn't contains ffmpeg support.
http://www.blender.org



blender.ppc  2.45-17.el5
installed Matched from:
blender
Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
modeling, animation, rendering and post-production to interactive
creation and playback.

Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish
stand-alone, secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and
other media.

This version doesn't contains ffmpeg support.

http://www.blender.org
[r...@arakus aguila]#

yum is telling me that it found blender available on a remote server
that is external, not part of my computer system.  And it is
reporting that blender is installed on my computer.

Now I'll tell yum to do something more complex.  I want yum to look
for any package available for YDL 6.2 which contain the letters
ble.  Logically this should include blender.  Here is how yum
performs:

[r...@arakus aguila]# yum info "*ble*"
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Installed Packages
Name   : arptables_jf
Arch   : ppc
Version: 0.0.8
Release: 8
Size   : 207 k
Repo   : installed
Summary: Userspace control program for the arptables network filter.

Description:

The arptables_jf utility controls the arpfilter network packet
filtering code in the Linux kernel.  You do not need this program for
normal network firewalling.  If you need to manually control which arp
requests and/or replies this machine accepts and sends, you should
install this package.


Name   : blender
Arch   : ppc
Version: 2.45
Release: 17.el5
Size   : 27 M
Repo   : installed
Summary: 3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production

Description:
Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
modeling, animation, re

Re: [ydl-gen] Blender

2009-08-27 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 23:53:14, Derick Centeno a écrit :
> Unfortunately Luis the only language I know besides English is
> Spanish.  Your server is in France or a French country?
>
> I'll make a stronger effort to clarify my English for your benefit.
> Also I want to recommend Google Translate which allows fairly good
> translation between Spanish, French and English.
>
> To our communications problem: Those files in yum.repos.d are
> instructions to yum in which servers on the web to look for rpms in.
> Those files do not contain the rpms themselves.  If you open one of
> the files (with a text editor) you will see that it is very much like
> the example link I referred to you.
>
> The reason you got no response from your system is because blender is
> not installed on your computer. yum can search servers on the web
> external to your computer and compare what is there with what you
> have on your hard-drive and inform you whether it is installed or not.
> I executed the same command you used, on my own system.  Here is the
> result:
>
> [r...@arakus aguila]# yum list|grep -i blender
> blender.ppc  2.45-17.el5
> installed [r...@arakus aguila]#
>
> Your computer responded as it did because yum discovered that blender
> is not present and so it represented the non-presence of blender by
> reporting nothing.  I'm using YDL 6.2.  However I know that blender
> is part of the package of software available for YDL 6.1 because I
> also used YDL 6.1 and other earlier versions of YDL.
>
> I'm going to execute running yum to list and provide information
> regarding blender.  I'll share the results here and I'd like you on
> your system to run the same sequence of commands I did.  Ok?
>
> Here goes:
>
> [agu...@arakus ~]$ su
> Password:
> [r...@arakus aguila]# yum info "*blender*"
> Loading "installonlyn" plugin
> base  100% |=| 1.1 kB 00:00
> updates   100% |=|  951 B 
00:00
> extras100% |=|  951 B 00:00
> Installed Packages Name   : blender Arch   : ppc Version: 2.45
> Release: 17.el5
> Size   : 27 M
> Repo   : installed
> Summary: 3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production
>
> Description:
> Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
> modeling, animation, rendering and post-production to interactive
> creation and playback.
>
> Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish
> stand-alone, secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and
> other media.
>
> This version doesn't contains ffmpeg support.
>
>
> [r...@arakus aguila]#
>
> The above is how yum responded to my command to inform me something
> about blender.  If you execute the same command you will get the same
> result.  You don't have to be in yum.repos.d to execute yum.
>
> Here is another command to yum to find blender and anything else
> associated with blender:
>
> [r...@arakus aguila]# yum search blender
> Loading "installonlyn" plugin
>
>
>
> blender.ppc  2.45-17.el5
> extras Matched from:
> blender
> Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
> modeling, animation, rendering and post-production to interactive
> creation and playback.
>
> Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish
> stand-alone, secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and
> other media.
>
> This version doesn't contains ffmpeg support.
> http://www.blender.org
>
>
>
> blender.ppc  2.45-17.el5
> installed Matched from:
> blender
> Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from
> modeling, animation, rendering and post-production to interactive
> creation and playback.
>
> Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish
> stand-alone, secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and
> other media.
>
> This version doesn't contains ffmpeg support.
>
> http://www.blender.org
> [r...@arakus aguila]#
>
> yum is telling me that it found blender available on a remote server
> that is external, not part of my computer system.  And it is
> reporting that blender is installed on my computer.
>
> Now I'll tell yum to do something more complex.  I want yum to look
> for any package available for YDL 6.2 which contain the letters
> ble.  Logically this should include blender.  Here is how yum
> performs:
>
> [r...@arakus aguila]# yum info "*ble*"
> Loading "installonlyn" plugin
> Installed Packages
> Name   : arptables_jf
> Arch   : ppc
> Version: 0.0.8
> Release: 8
> Size   : 207 k
> Repo   : installed
> Summary: Userspace control program for the arptables network filter.
>
> Description:
>
> The arptables_jf utility controls the arpfilter network packet
> filtering code in the Linux kernel.  You do not need this program for
> normal network firewalling.  If you need to manually control which arp
> requests and/or replies this machine accepts and sends, you