Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?

2008-06-02 Thread Henrik Hjort
Hi Hernan,

after looking at your posts my suggestion would be to
try the OpenSolaris 2008.05 Live CD and to import your
pool using the CD. That CD is nv86 + some extra fixes.
You will have to use 'pfexec' when you are trying to import
the pool. ( www.opensolaris.com )

I read this and I am not sure how you did it.
S10U4 and was recently upgraded to snv85

But an upgrade from Sol10 to NV is untested and nothing I
would recommend at all. A fresh install of snvXY is what I
know works.

Cheers,
  Henrik

Hernan Freschi wrote:
 fwiw, here are my previous posts:
 
 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=61301tstart=30
 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=62120tstart=0
  
  
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Re: [zfs-discuss] SMC Webconsole 3.1 and ZFS Administration 1.0 - stacktraces in snv_b89

2008-06-02 Thread Jean-Paul Rivet
A further update. With B90 and UFS as root partition, the ZFS administration 
GUI worked fine. So I presented two additional disks and proceeded to create a 
zpool. The creation of the pool worked fine however the ZFS administration 
interface is now broken with the same error as in the original post.

So to summarise, ZFS GUI adminstration seems to be broken once a ZFS pool 
exists on the system with at least B90.

Is this a bug or is there a workaround?

Cheers, JP
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] SMC Webconsole 3.1 and ZFS Administration 1.0 - stacktraces in snv_b89

2008-06-02 Thread Jean-Paul Rivet
 I checked - this system has a UFS root. When
 installed as snv_84 and then LU'd to snv_89, and when
 I fiddled with these packages from various other
 releases, it had the stacktrace instead of the ZFS
 admin GUI (or the well-known smcwebserver restart
 effect for the older packages).

 .

 Were your UFS and ZFS setups different in packaging?

No. These were straight vanilla installs of SXCE B90 with Entire Distrubtion.

With my original post I thought it might of been related to ZFS as the root 
partition but with further testing that is not the case at all...

Cheers, JP
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices

2008-06-02 Thread Thommy M.
Paulo Soeiro wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I was experimenting with zfs, and i made the following test, i shutdown
 the computer during a write operation
 in a mirrored usb storage filesystem.
 
 Here is my configuration
 
 NGS USB 2.0 Minihub 4
 3 USB Silicom Power Storage Pens 1 GB each
 
 These are the ports:
 
 hub devices
 /---\  
 | port 2 | port  1  |
 | c10t0d0p0  | c9t0d0p0  |
 -
 | port 4 | port  4  |
 | c12t0d0p0  | c11t0d0p0|
 \/
 
 Here is the problem:
 
 1)First i create a mirror with port2 and port1 devices
 
 zpool create myPool mirror c10t0d0p0 c9t0d0p0
 -bash-3.2# zpool status
   pool: myPool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAME   STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 myPool ONLINE   0 0 0
   mirror   ONLINE   0 0 0
 c10t0d0p0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 c9t0d0p0   ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
   pool: rpool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 rpool   ONLINE   0 0 0
   c5t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
 2)zfs create myPool/myfs
 
 3)created a random file (file.txt - more or less 100MB size)
 
 digest -a md5 file.txt
 3f9d17531d6103ec75ba9762cb250b4c
 
 4)While making a second copy of the file:
 
 cp file.txt test 
 
 I've shutdown the computer while the file was being copied. And
 restarted the computer again. And here is the result:
 
 
 -bash-3.2# zpool status
   pool: myPool
  state: UNAVAIL
 status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing
 or invalid.  There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue
 functioning.
 action: Destroy and re-create the pool from a backup source.
see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-5E
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAME   STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 myPool UNAVAIL  0 0 0  insufficient replicas
   mirror   UNAVAIL  0 0 0  insufficient replicas
 c12t0d0p0  OFFLINE  0 0 0
 c9t0d0p0   FAULTED  0 0 0  corrupted data
 
   pool: rpool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 rpool   ONLINE   0 0 0
   c5t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
 ---
 
 I was expecting that only one of the files was corrupted, not the all
 the filesystem.

This looks exactly like the problem I had (thread USB stick unavailable
after restart) and the answer I got was that you can't relay on the HUB ...

I haven't tried another HUB yet but will eventually test the Adaptec
XHub 4 (AUH-4000) which is on the HCL list...




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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware

2008-06-02 Thread Erik Trimble
Keith Bierman wrote:
 On May 30, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:

   
 The only drawback of the older Socket 940 Opterons is that they don't
 support the hardware VT extensions, so running a Windows guest  
 under xVM
 on them isn't currently possible.
 



  From the VirtualBox manual, page 11

 • No hardware virtualization required. VirtualBox does not require  
 processor
 features built into newer hardware like VT-x (on Intel processors) or  
 AMD-V
 (on AMD processors). As opposed to many other virtualization  
 solutions, you
 can therefore use VirtualBox even on older hardware where these  
 features are
 not present. In fact, VirtualBox’s sophisticated software techniques  
 are typically
 faster than hardware virtualization, although it is still possible to  
 enable hard-
 ware virtualization on a per-VM basis. Only for some exotic guest  
 operating
 systems like OS/2, hardware virtualization is required.


 

 I've been running windows under OpenSolaris on an aged 32-bit Dell.  
 I'm morally certain it lacks the hardware support, and in any event,  
 the VBOX configuration is set to avoid using the VT extensions anyway.

 Runs fine. Not the fastest box on the planet ... but it's got limited  
 DRAM.

   

That is correct. VirtualBox does _not_ require the VT extensions.  I was 
referring to xVM, which I'm still taking as synonymous with the 
Xen-based system.  xVM _does_ require the VT hardware extensions to run 
guest OSes in an unmodified form, which currently includes all flavors 
of Windows.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Tim
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is my first post here, and i hope it is ok that i posted in this
 thread.

 I have been doing a bit of reading on the solaris platforms, and seem to be
 inclined to try out the open solaris os or solaris 10. My only worry is that
 my lack of knowledge with the command line may make this difficult regarding
 trouble shooting. It seems fairly straighforward creating zpools etc, but
 maybe nexenta is better suited for me (i read about some memory limitation
 with nexenta?).

 My end goal is to use this box, to store my media files. Connect it to my
 airport extreme router via gigabit ether, and depending on situation access
 data via wifi (smb share) or ether via router (iscsi), both on a Mac. Is it
 possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the
 wireless, i wanted to format the drive in hfs format.

 My proposed build thus far...

 CPU (39.99)
 AMD Athlon 64 LE-1600 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 45W Single-Core
 Processor - Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16819103199
 MB $134.99
 ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard -
 Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16813131013

 PSU $54.99
 Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC -
 Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817182017

 Sata power converter $1.89
 Nippon Labs 4-Pin PC power to 2 x SATA Converter Cables Model POW-SATA-2 -
 Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16812816015

 Ram $84.99
 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
 Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16820231122

 Video Card $19.99
 ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR
 PCI Express x16 Video Card
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814121019R

 DVD Player $17.99
 Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model
 DDU1615/B2s - OEM
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16827101131

 80gig sata drive for the OS, and 4 500gig seagate 7200.10 drives.

 While planning this out, it seemed that all of the parts i chose are
 supported by solaris, please correct me if im wrong. Do you see any issues
 with this setup? I'm looking to build this box as cheaply as possible, BUT
 as reliable as possible as well. (any other suggestions for places that may
 have parts cheaper? )

 Thank you all for your patience, this is quite a steep learning curve!


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I'd strongly consider a second 80gb drive and raid-1 your operating system
drive.  While you won't lose any ZFS data if it goes down, rebuilding a
server, especially after custom configuration, can be a pain.  Restoring
from backup even more so :D
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[zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Darryl
This is my first post here, and i hope it is ok that i posted in this thread.

I have been doing a bit of reading on the solaris platforms, and seem to be 
inclined to try out the open solaris os or solaris 10. My only worry is that my 
lack of knowledge with the command line may make this difficult regarding 
trouble shooting. It seems fairly straighforward creating zpools etc, but maybe 
nexenta is better suited for me (i read about some memory limitation with 
nexenta?).

My end goal is to use this box, to store my media files. Connect it to my 
airport extreme router via gigabit ether, and depending on situation access 
data via wifi (smb share) or ether via router (iscsi), both on a Mac. Is it 
possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the wireless, i 
wanted to format the drive in hfs format.

My proposed build thus far... 

CPU (39.99)
AMD Athlon 64 LE-1600 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor 
- Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16819103199
MB $134.99
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16813131013

PSU $54.99
Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC - 
Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817182017

Sata power converter $1.89
Nippon Labs 4-Pin PC power to 2 x SATA Converter Cables Model POW-SATA-2 - 
Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16812816015

Ram $84.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit 
Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16820231122

Video Card $19.99
ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR PCI 
Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814121019R

DVD Player $17.99
Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model 
DDU1615/B2s - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16827101131

80gig sata drive for the OS, and 4 500gig seagate 7200.10 drives.

While planning this out, it seemed that all of the parts i chose are supported 
by solaris, please correct me if im wrong. Do you see any issues with this 
setup? I'm looking to build this box as cheaply as possible, BUT as reliable as 
possible as well. (any other suggestions for places that may have parts 
cheaper? )

Thank you all for your patience, this is quite a steep learning curve!
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside from speed limitations of the 
 wireless, i wanted to format the drive in hfs format.
It should be, it's just IP.  But why not use CIFS to share it instead?
 It'd be more portable across OSes and just as fast.

 PSU $54.99
 Rosewill RP550-2 ATX12V v2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA,UL,TUV, FCC - 
 Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817182017
I'd buy something else, honestly.   The Corsair 650TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 is
only $100, has more power, eliminates the need for the power adapters
you've got listed, would leave more room for future expansion, and
it's probably more efficient too.

Will
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Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?

2008-06-02 Thread Hernan Freschi
Thanks for your answer, 
 after looking at your posts my suggestion would be to
 try the OpenSolaris 2008.05 Live CD and to import
 your pool using the CD. That CD is nv86 + some extra
 fixes.
I upgraded the snv85 to snv89 to see if it helped, but it didn't. I'll try to 
download the 2008.05 CD again (the ISO for that is one of the things trapped in 
the pool I can't import).
 
 But an upgrade from Sol10 to NV is untested and
 nothing I would recommend at all. A fresh install of snvXY is
 what I know works.

Didn't know that. I was simply following the N+2 rule, upgrading 10 to 11.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices

2008-06-02 Thread Justin Vassallo
Thommy,

If I read correctly your post stated that the pools did not automount on
startup, not that they would go corrupt. It seems to me that Paulo is
actually experiencing a corrupt fs

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommy M.
Sent: 02 June 2008 13:19
To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices

Paulo Soeiro wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I was experimenting with zfs, and i made the following test, i shutdown
 the computer during a write operation
 in a mirrored usb storage filesystem.
 
 Here is my configuration
 
 NGS USB 2.0 Minihub 4
 3 USB Silicom Power Storage Pens 1 GB each
 
 These are the ports:
 
 hub devices
 /---\  
 | port 2 | port  1  |
 | c10t0d0p0  | c9t0d0p0  |
 -
 | port 4 | port  4  |
 | c12t0d0p0  | c11t0d0p0|
 \/
 
 Here is the problem:
 
 1)First i create a mirror with port2 and port1 devices
 
 zpool create myPool mirror c10t0d0p0 c9t0d0p0
 -bash-3.2# zpool status
   pool: myPool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAME   STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 myPool ONLINE   0 0 0
   mirror   ONLINE   0 0 0
 c10t0d0p0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 c9t0d0p0   ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
   pool: rpool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 rpool   ONLINE   0 0 0
   c5t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
 2)zfs create myPool/myfs
 
 3)created a random file (file.txt - more or less 100MB size)
 
 digest -a md5 file.txt
 3f9d17531d6103ec75ba9762cb250b4c
 
 4)While making a second copy of the file:
 
 cp file.txt test 
 
 I've shutdown the computer while the file was being copied. And
 restarted the computer again. And here is the result:
 
 
 -bash-3.2# zpool status
   pool: myPool
  state: UNAVAIL
 status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing
 or invalid.  There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue
 functioning.
 action: Destroy and re-create the pool from a backup source.
see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-5E
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAME   STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 myPool UNAVAIL  0 0 0  insufficient replicas
   mirror   UNAVAIL  0 0 0  insufficient replicas
 c12t0d0p0  OFFLINE  0 0 0
 c9t0d0p0   FAULTED  0 0 0  corrupted data
 
   pool: rpool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
 config:
 
 NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 rpool   ONLINE   0 0 0
   c5t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
 ---
 
 I was expecting that only one of the files was corrupted, not the all
 the filesystem.

This looks exactly like the problem I had (thread USB stick unavailable
after restart) and the answer I got was that you can't relay on the HUB ...

I haven't tried another HUB yet but will eventually test the Adaptec
XHub 4 (AUH-4000) which is on the HCL list...




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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Darryl wrote:

 My end goal is to use this box, to store my media files. Connect it 
 to my airport extreme router via gigabit ether, and depending on 
 situation access data via wifi (smb share) or ether via router 
 (iscsi), both on a Mac. Is it possible to do iscsi over wifi, aside 
 from speed limitations of the wireless, i wanted to format the drive 
 in hfs format.

You should consider using SMB or NFS and storing the files in native 
ZFS filesystem format.  I think that this would work better for ZFS 
snapshots than the single large file used by iSCSI.  The files could 
be shared by more than one host, including being visible to your 
server for administrative purposes.  ZFS snapshots of iSCSI disks are 
not assured to be coherent from the perspective of the remote host 
which uses it and will be more similar to what you get when you 
abruply unplug the power from your remote host unless you take care to 
shut down the remote host prior to snapshotting.  Certainly Apple's 
journalling will help here, but journalling works by losing some data.

Bob
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware

2008-06-02 Thread Keith Bierman

On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:24 AM   6/2/, Erik Trimble wrote:

 Keith Bierman wrote:
 On May 30, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:


 The only drawback of the older Socket 940 Opterons is that they  
 don't
 support the hardware VT extensions, so running a Windows guest   
 under xVM
 on them isn't currently possible.



 That is correct. VirtualBox does _not_ require the VT extensions.   
 I was referring to xVM, which I'm still taking as synonymous with  
 the Xen-based system.  xVM _does_ require the VT hardware  
 extensions to run guest OSes in an unmodified form, which currently  
 includes all flavors of Windows.



Ah, Marketing rebranding befuddles again.

It's Sun xVM VirtualBox (tm) as best I can tell from sun.com. So I  
assumed you were using the xVM in generic sense, not as Xen vs.  
Virtual Box.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread MC
Use froogle for price checking.

I don't know what chipsets are supported by opensolaris, but if I were you I'd 
be looking hard at motherboards with as much integrated as possible.  For 
instance, for less than $100 you can get a mini-atx motherboard with 6 SATA 
ports and onboard video.  I found this out just by clicking the appropriate 
categories on the left side of newegg.  Example: 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=2010200022+107192530name=NVIDIA+GeForce+8000

Pair a motherboard like that with the cheapest processor possible, a case that 
comes with a power supply, and a hard drive bay for the 5.25 case bays, and 
you're off like a bride's pajamas!  I'd get wd6400aaks or wd7500aacs drives.  
the aacs (GP) drives are 5400rpm and vibrate less, which will cause less noise 
problems in most cases, if you know what I mean.

As a bonus, some of the consumer AMD chipsets are compatible with unbuffered 
ECC memory, so you can use this 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146525 .  The memory 
you chose is not what you need.  DDR2 667mhz * 2 is 1333mhz, which is a faster 
bus speed than the processor you chose.  So you won't even use all the speed of 
667 memory, not to mention the 800 memory you chose.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] What is a vdev?

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Petkus
As a side bar, since you cannot remove a vdev, you can really shot  
oneself in the foot if not careful (as I recently did).  I had a X4500  
system with (4) RAIDz2 vdevs in one pool.  When adding a disk to the  
system, I forgot to add it as a spare and I was left with a stripe  
across the RAIDz2 sets + a single disk.  I had to blow everything  
away...


Any information on when disk evacuation will make its way into ZFS?

Robert



On May 25, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Kyle McDonald wrote:


Orvar Korvar wrote:
 Ok, so i make one vdev out of 8 discs. And I combine all vdevs  
into one large zpool? Is it correct?


 I have 8 port SATA card. I have 4 drives into one zpool. That is  
one vdev, right? Now I can add 4 new drives and make them into one  
zpool. And now I combine both zpool into one zpool? That can not be  
right? I dont get vdevs. Can someone explain?


A 'vdev' is the basic unit that a zpool is made of.

There are several types of vdevs:

Single device type:

   This vdev is made from one storage device - Generally a Hard disk
drive, but there are other possibilities. This type of vdev has *no*
data redundancy, but ZFS will still be able to notice errors due to
checksumming every block. ZFS will also keep redundant meta-data on  
this
one device, so meta data has the ability to survive block failures,  
but
nothing will save data in this type of vdev from a full device  
failure.
The size of this vdev is the size of the storage device it is made  
from.


Mirrored type:
This type of vdev is made from 2 or more storage devices, All data
is written to all devices, so there is data redundancy. The more  
devices

in the mirror the more copies of the data, and the more full device
failures the vdev can survive.  The size of this vdev is the size of  
the

smallest storage device in the mirror. While devices (copies) can be
added and removed from the mirror vdev, this only changes the
redundancy, and not the size. Though if the smallest storage device in
the mirror is replaced with a larger one, the size of the mirror  
should

grow to the size of the new smallest device in the mirror.

RAIDZ or RAIDZ1 type:
   This type of vdev is made of 3 or more storage devices. This type  
of
vdev has data redundancy, and can survive the loss of one device in  
the

vdev at a time. The available space on a RAIDZ vdev is the size of the
smallest storage device in the vdev times one less than the number of
devices in the vdev ( minsize*(n-1) ) because 1 devices worth of space
is used for parity information to provide the redundancy. This vdev  
type

cannot (currently) have it's size changes by adding or removing
(changing 'n') devices to/from it. However it can have it's available
space increased by replacing the current smallest device with a larger
device (changing 'minsize') so that some other device now becomes the
'smallest device'. NOTE: if the vdev started with identical sized
devices, you'll need to replace all of them before you'll see any
increase in the available space since the 'size of the smallest  
device'

will still be the same untill they are all replaced. Posts by
knowledgable people on this mailing list have suggested that there is
little benefit to having 10 or more devices in a RAIDZ vdev., and that
devices should be split into multiple vdevs to keep the number in  
anyone

in the single digits.

RAIDZ2 type:
   This type of vdev is made of 4 or more storage devices. It is
basically just like RAIDZ1, except it has enoug redundancy to  
survive 2
device failures at the same time, and the available space is the  
size of
the smallest device times *two* less than number of devices in the  
vdev

( minsize*(n-2) ) becuase 2 devices worth of space are used to provide
the redundancy. Changing the space in this type of vdev is limited the
same way that a RAIDZ vdev is.

As noted above, the term 'Storage Device' in these descriptoins is
generally a hard disk drive, but it can be other things. ZFS allows  
you

to use files on another filesystem, slices (solaris partitions) of a
drive, fdisk partitions,  Hardware RAID LUNs,  iSCSI targets,  USB  
thumb

drives, etc.


A Zpool is made up of more than one of these vdev's.  The size of a
zpool is the sum of the sizes of the vdevs it is made from. The zpool
doesn't add any redundancy itself, the vdev's are responsible for  
that.

Which is why, while a zpool can be made of vdev's of differing types,
it's not a good idea. The 'zpool create' command will warn you if you
try to use a mix of redundant and non-redundant vdev types in the same
pool. This is really a bad idea since you can't control what data is
placed on the redundant vdev's and which is places on the non- 
redundant

vdev's. If you have data that has different redundancy needs, you're
better off creating more than one zpool.

Vdev's can be added to a zpool, but not removed (yet?) Therefore to
increase the size of a of zpool, you have to either add another full
vdev to it, or replace one (or 

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-06-02 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| My impression is that the only real problem with incrementals from
| ufsdump or star is that you would like to have a database that tells
| you in which incremental a specific file with a specific time stamp
| may be found.

 In our situation here, this is done by the overall backup system
driving ufsdump et al (Amanda in our case). I think this is the best
way, because you don't necessarily want to keep the index on the machine
that you are backing up.

- cks
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Chris Siebenmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 | My impression is that the only real problem with incrementals from
 | ufsdump or star is that you would like to have a database that tells
 | you in which incremental a specific file with a specific time stamp
 | may be found.

  In our situation here, this is done by the overall backup system
 driving ufsdump et al (Amanda in our case). I think this is the best
 way, because you don't necessarily want to keep the index on the machine
 that you are backing up.

You would need to push the Amanda people to support star if you like to backup
a filesystem other than UFS. Currently Amanda will use GNU tar with all well 
known problems with GNU tar based backups (e.g. GNU tar will not always accept 
it's own archives for restore).

Jörg

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Re: [zfs-discuss] /var/sadm on zfs?

2008-06-02 Thread Volker A. Brandt
 On my heavily-patched Solaris 10U4 system, the size of /var (on UFS)
 has gotten way out of hand due to the remarkably large growth of
 /var/sadm.  Can this directory tree be safely moved to a zfs
 filesystem?  How much of /var can be moved to a zfs filesystem without
 causing boot or runtime issues?

It seems your original question hasn't been answered yet... :-)

I have used U4 with the complete /var on zfs for quite a while and
have not encountered any problems.  My usual setup for mirrored root
disks is:

  what   where  how

  /  /dev/md/dsk/d0 ufs
  swap   /dev/md/dsk/d1 swap
  ROOT   cXt0d0s3 + cXt1d0s3zpool

The ROOT pool contains /var, /opt, and /export.  I set both quota
and reservation for /var to be on the safe side.

I have not done any stress testing with zones, but normal use
is absolutely trouble-free.


HTH -- Volker
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MB $134.99
 ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16813131013
[..]
 Video Card $19.99
 ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR PCI 
 Express x16 Video Card
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814121019R

Consider a motherboard based on the R690G/SB600 chipset or the nVidia 7050.

The ASUS M2A-VM (690) is $70 and has on board video. I think only the
sound is not supported. Likewise the nVidia ASUS M2N-VM (7050) is $70.
I believe both have only 4 SATA ports, but that should be ok for your
build.

-B

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS sharing options for Windows

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Buskey
 Justin,
 
 Thanks for the reply
 
 In the environment I currently work in, the powers
 that be are almost
 completely anti unix. Installing the nfs client on
 all machines would take
 a real good sales pitch. None the less I am still

I've pro unix  I'm against putting NFS on all the PC clients as well.
Putting Samba on the server and leaving the PCs alone will be much easier to 
manage then NFS clients.  I suspect the performance and security on the PCs 
would be better too.

Samba can authenticate to AD or have it own seperate passowrd setup.  If it's a 
Windows shop, use AD.

I've not played with the CIFS in ZFS yet, but I have older Solaris installs and 
Samba works well enough that I don't have a need to switch yet.

 playing with the client
 in our sandbox. As I install this on a test machine a
 question popped into
 my mind. Does this passthrough AD credentials? How
 does one control
 authentication? I haven't read anything on this yet,
 and will do some
 searching, just thought I'd pick your brain a bit.

Samba does.  I think CIFS in ZFS would be done with PAM?

 
 The biggest reason I am drawn to ZFS is zpool. I like
 the idea I can keep
 adding raidz arrays to a large shared pool when ever
 I want. With iscsi
 sharing I am forced to make Volumes I don't know
 that I really like this
 idea outside of the scope of making iSCSI OS
 partitions. For network files
 and shares I really want to be able utilize snapshots
 and other features
 of the ZFS filesystem. If I share out via SMB do the
 files not sit on the
 zfs FS and get captured in snapshots indiviually? My

Snapshots are done in ZFS on the host.

 understanding was it
 just uses the CIFS protocol, but you still gain the
 benefits of the ZFS
 File System on the backend. The tough thing is trying
 to make this fit
 well in a Windows world.

Not really.  Samba makes all the OS stuff transparent to the windows user.  
Just like in Linux.  The big change is getting an ECC, snapshotting filesystem 
on the host.

 
 -Craig
 
  sharesmb presents ntfs to windows, so you're still
 hampered by that file
  system's 'features' such as lots of broadcast
 packets and a long timeout.
 
  One other option you should consider is using NFS,
 for which you can
  install
  a windows client. See
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055 or google
  'nfs
  windows client'
 
  justin
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices

2008-06-02 Thread Thommy M.
Justin Vassallo wrote:
 Thommy,
 
 If I read correctly your post stated that the pools did not automount on
 startup, not that they would go corrupt. It seems to me that Paulo is
 actually experiencing a corrupt fs

Nah, I also had indications of corrupted data if you read my posts.
But the data was there after I fiddled with the sticks and
exported/imported the pool.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Darryl
AGHH thank you all for your responses!  Took me a while to figure out this 
forum, as i was getting email responses and wasn't sure if i needed to reply 
here, so i apologize to those i emailed personally!!

As advised by Brandon, the miniatx boards would have a lower power consumption, 
so i think i may have to go that route.  So with this in mind, going to have to 
look for a supported board with all of my requirements.

I have read that PSU's that come with cases are far from reliable?  Is this 
truly the case?

Once i set my mind on one thing i get new points of view :)  I'm starting to 
purchase parts that i know will be universal (ie ram), so that i spread out the 
cost :)

Can anyone comment on OS X compatibility with opensolaris for time machine, and 
regular shares?

THANK YOU to all of you for your time and continued patience.  This will be my 
first build if you haven't noticed...

Darryl
 
 
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[zfs-discuss] how to migrating from UFS in a short time.

2008-06-02 Thread wan_jm
In our system, we need to migrating from UFS in a short time.
according to the ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide. before migration, we should unshared 
the UFS, and then umount the ZFS,and then do migration, which means during 
migration, the service on the machine should stop. but we can't afford the 
operation for too long time. what can i do?
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Buskey
 (2) You want a 64-bit CPU.  So that probably rules
 out your P4 machines, 
 unless they were extremely late-model P4s with the
 EM64T features.   
 Given that file-serving alone is relatively low-CPU,
 you can get away 
 with practically any 64-bit capable CPU made in the
 last 4 years.

Assuming you're topped out at 4GB RAM by your motherboard, how much difference 
does 32bit vs 64bit make?

Some of the old (cheap) SCSI cards I have only have 32 bit drivers on x86.  The 
cards supported in the 64bit kernel I have to buy, maybe for more then I paid 
for my motherboard+cpu+RAM.

So I'm curious about that point.

 (5) external cases/enclosures are expensive, but
 nice. The bang-for-buck 
 is in the workgroup server case, which (besides
 being a PC case) 
 generally holds 8-10 drives for about $300 or so.

Even more bang for the buck:
   PC case with power supply
   42 SATA cables
   SATA to slot bracket cables
   disk drive power adapters to SATA power adapters
   1-2 120mm fans


Bolt the drives into the case.
Plug in the power adapters
Bolt the SATA to slot brackets in
Plug the SATA connectors into the drives.
Mount the fan(s) in the case so it pulls air across the drives.

Bolt the box up.  Now you have drives in a box with SATA ports out the back.

Now plug the 42 cables into your server in the SATA ports and feed them out a 
hole in the case.  I label the port numbers on the cables.

Plug the 42 cables into the SATA ports of the drives in a box.

Power the drives in a box up before your server.

I've found this works.  SATA isn't sensitive to setup as SCSI was in the past.
You did mention this was for a home lab right?  I've been running this way in 
my servers for 4 years.


 If the solution you really want is an external disk
 enclosure hooked to 
 some sort of a driver/head machine, check out
 used/off-lease IBM or HP 
 opteron workstations, which tend to go for $500 or
 so, loaded.  Sun v20z 
 and IBM e326m  1U rackmount servers are in the same
 price range.
 
 -- 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have read that PSU's that come with cases are far from reliable?  Is this 
 truly the case?

Inexpensive cases have inexpensive power supplies.

Most of the Antec cases come with good power supplies. I have a
Thermaltake Matrix case that came with a PSU and it's been reliable
for 2 years. I believe the case and PSU was about $100.

For my most recent build I looked at Silent PC Review and went with a
Corsair 520W PSU based on their testing.

-B

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[zfs-discuss] install opensolaris on raidz

2008-06-02 Thread Alex
Hi,

Using the opensolaris installer I've created a raidz array from two 500GB hdds, 
but the installer keeps seening two hdds, not the array I've just made.
How do I install opensolaris on raidz array?

Thanks!
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] install opensolaris on raidz

2008-06-02 Thread Richard Elling
Alex wrote:
 Hi,

 Using the opensolaris installer I've created a raidz array from two 500GB 
 hdds, but the installer keeps seening two hdds, not the array I've just made.
 How do I install opensolaris on raidz array?
   

You don't.  Today, only simple or mirrored vdevs are
usable for ZFS boot devices.
 -- richard

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[zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?

2008-06-02 Thread Scott L. Burson
Hi,

I'm running snv_86 on a Tyan S2882-D.  This board has an onboard Sil3114 SATA 
controller which I have been using for my ZFS pool.  Now I am trying to use 
Xen, and I am told that it doesn't work with IDE mode disk drivers; but the 
3114 doesn't seem to have a native SATA mode (the BIOS just offers Ultra and 
RAID modes).  Besides, the 3114 is said to be slow and maybe a little flaky.

So okay, I can plug in a controller card.  (I have an Adaptec 1420SA handy -- 
would that work?)

But then comes the next question: how do I move the pool to the new controller? 
 Hand-editing /etc/zfs/zpool.cache seems, uh, daunting :)

-- Scott
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?

2008-06-02 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 02 June, 2008 - Scott L. Burson sent me these 0,8K bytes:

 Hi,
 
 I'm running snv_86 on a Tyan S2882-D.  This board has an onboard
 Sil3114 SATA controller which I have been using for my ZFS pool.  Now
 I am trying to use Xen, and I am told that it doesn't work with IDE
 mode disk drivers; but the 3114 doesn't seem to have a native SATA
 mode (the BIOS just offers Ultra and RAID modes).  Besides, the
 3114 is said to be slow and maybe a little flaky.
 
 So okay, I can plug in a controller card.  (I have an Adaptec 1420SA
 handy -- would that work?)
 
 But then comes the next question: how do I move the pool to the new
 controller?  Hand-editing /etc/zfs/zpool.cache seems, uh, daunting :)

zpool export blah
move stuff
zpool import blah

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Re: [zfs-discuss] install opensolaris on raidz

2008-06-02 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 02 June, 2008 - Richard Elling sent me these 0,5K bytes:

 Alex wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Using the opensolaris installer I've created a raidz array from two
  500GB hdds, but the installer keeps seening two hdds, not the array
  I've just made. How do I install opensolaris on raidz array?

 
 You don't.  Today, only simple or mirrored vdevs are
 usable for ZFS boot devices.

A two disk raidz has no advantages over a two disk mirror, but it does
have disadvantages (slower and you can't boot from it ;)

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?

2008-06-02 Thread Scott L. Burson
 zpool export blah
 move stuff
 zpool import blah

Great, thanks, sorry for the FAQ :)

Would still like advice on the 1420SA.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Luke Scharf
Brandon High wrote:
 Inexpensive cases have inexpensive power supplies.

 Most of the Antec cases come with good power supplies. I have a
 Thermaltake Matrix case that came with a PSU and it's been reliable
 for 2 years. I believe the case and PSU was about $100.
   

I just picked up an Antec Earthwatts EA-650 power supply from NewEgg.  
It doesn't come in a case as far as I know, but it's very quiet and runs 
my AMD AM2 dual-core CPU very nicely.  I'm now a fan.  I've thinking 
about replacing a perfectly-useful Asus power supply that I have in 
another case with one of the Earthwatts series power supplies, due to 
the noise.

Most of the weirdnesses that I associate with the power supply problems 
are hard to truly pin on the power supply.  But a sub-par power-supply 
really can affect the stability of the system.  Historically AMD CPUs 
have historically worked, but been unstable when paired with a sub-par 
power supply (I was able to pin one of these 100% on the power supply).  
This goes back as far as the original Athlons.  Intel CPUs started being 
finicky around the time the Prescott was released.  There are a lot of 
crappy power supplies out there for sale...

I'd advise against skimping on the power supply.  I've ordered new cases 
and/or power supplies for the last three of my home-builds -- and 
putting a good power supply in there really does correlate (but 
correlation != causation) with having a stable system.

-Luke

P.S. Anyone in Southwest Virginia want an Inwin Micro-ATX half-height 
case with a questionable 350-watt power supply?
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Volker A. Brandt
 Consider a motherboard based on the R690G/SB600 chipset or the nVidia 7050.
 
 The ASUS M2A-VM (690) is $70 and has on board video. I think only the
 sound is not supported. Likewise the nVidia ASUS M2N-VM (7050) is $70.
 I believe both have only 4 SATA ports, but that should be ok for your
 build.

I have an M2A-VM.  It runs 2008.05 just fine.  I have not checked
out sound support yet, but a driver is listed by the driver detection
tool.  It is correct that the board has 4 SATA ports.


Regards -- Volker
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?

2008-06-02 Thread Scott L. Burson
Never mind, I see the 1420SA doesn't work.  (Search Google for 1420sa 
solaris.)

The Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 seems to be the recommended choice.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving pool to new controller?

2008-06-02 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Scott L. Burson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would still like advice on the 1420SA.

It's been mentioned before. The 1420SA does not work.

-B

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Darryl
Sata Controller (26.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132008

Asus M2A-VM (79.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131174

CPU $39.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103199

Case $49.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154071

PSU $30.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338008

Sata power converter $1.89

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816015

DVD Player $17.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131

Ram $84.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

Complete redesign with the aid of the very helpful people on this site!  Again 
i truly appreciate it.

Could this PSU fit in a micro atx case? 
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052)  I searched 
for dimensions etc, but i am assuming i need a microatx psu for a microatx 
case, unfortunately there arent any high power ones, to run 6 sata drives.

I went through the HSL and for the most part everything ive listed is 
compatible, i hope..

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sata Controller (26.99)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132008

You may need to flash the BIOS on this card to disable the RAID
features. I think you can get the correct image from the Silicon Image
website.

 Could this PSU fit in a micro atx case? 
 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052)  I searched 
 for dimensions etc, but i am assuming i need a microatx psu for a microatx 
 case, unfortunately there arent any high power ones, to run 6 sata drives.

It would depend on the case.

-B

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Create ZFS now, add mirror later

2008-06-02 Thread Boyd Adamson
Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
 E. Mike Durbin wrote:
 
 Is there a way to to a create a zfs file system
 (e.g. zpool create boot /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s1)

 Then, (after vacating the old boot disk) add
   
 another
 
 device and make the zpool a mirror?
   
   
 zpool attach
  -- richard
 
 (as in: zpool create boot mirror /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s1
   
 /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s1)
 
 Thanks!

 emike
  
  
   

 Thanks, but for starters, where is the best place to find info like this 
 (i.e., the easiest to get started on zfs)?
   

 The main ZFS community site is:
 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/

 There is a lot of good information and step-by-step examples
 in the ZFS Administration Guide located under the docs
 section:
 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/
  -- richard

I'd further add that, since there are only 2 zfs related commands[1],
reading the man pages for zpool(1M) and zfs(1M) is a good investment of
time.

Boyd.

[1] I'm aware of zdb, but it's not really relevant to this discussion.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Darryl
I dont know what hapenned to the thread, i can only read up to the 6th post...  
But i have narrowed down my hardware for my build, and will commence purchasing 
it all slowly.  Thank you to all that have assisted me!  I am apologizing in 
advance, as i know when i have my equipment, i'll be bothering you once again, 
sorry!  I am quite excited to get this started.  I wish i could practice some 
zfs commands to learn, but i will continue reading meanwhile

Darryl
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-02 Thread Darryl
This thread really messed me up, posts dont follow a chronological order...  so 
sorry for all the extra posts!
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Space used by the snapshot

2008-06-02 Thread Boyd Adamson
Silvio Armando Davi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 I create a pool mirrored with 1gb of space. After I create a file
 system in that pool and put a file (file1) of 300MB it that file
 system. After that, I create a snapshot in the file system. With the
 zfs list command the space used by the snapshot is 0 (zero). It´s ok.

 Well after that I copied the file of 300 mb to a another file (file2)
 in the same file system. Listing the files in the file system I can
 see the two files and listing the files in the snapshot I can see only
 the first file. It´s ok too, but the zfs list now shows that the
 snapshot uses 23.5KB of space.

 I suppose that the copy of the file1 change the atime of the inode and
 for this reason the inode of the file1 needed to be copied to the
 snapshot using the space of the snapshot. I tried to set the atime to
 off, but the space of 23.5KB of the snapshot still being used after
 the copy of the file.

 Anyone knows the reason the snapshot uses that 23.5kb of space?

I would guess that there is a lot more than the atime that needs
tracking. The containing directory at the destination has changed, so
the before version of that would take up space. I think that free
space maps go in there too.

Others will probably be able to answer more authoriatatively

Boyd
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Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me? [SOLVED]

2008-06-02 Thread Hernan Freschi
Well, finally managed to solve my issue, thanks to the invaluable help of 
Victor Latushkin, who I can't thank enough.

I'll post a more detailed step-by-step record of what he and I did (well, all 
credit to him actually) to solve this. Actually, the problem is still there 
(destroying a huge zvol or clone is slow and takes a LOT of memory, and will 
die when it runs out of memory), but now I'm able to import my zpool and all is 
there.

What Victor did was hack ZFS (libzfs) to force a rollback to abort the 
endless destroy, which was re-triggered every time the zpool was imported, as 
it was inconsistent. With this custom version of libzfs, setting an environment 
variable makes libzfs to bypass the destroy and jump to rollback, undoing the 
last destroy command.

I'll be posting the long version of the story soon.

Hernán
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?

2008-06-02 Thread Marc Bevand
Hernan Freschi hjf at hjf.com.ar writes:
 
 Here's the output. Numbers may be a little off because I'm doing a nightly  
 build and compressing a crashdump with bzip2 at the same time.

Thanks. Your disks look healthy. But one question: why is
c5t0/c5t1/c6t0/c6t1 when in another post you referred to the 4 disks
as c[1234]d0 ?

Did you change the hardware ?

AFAIK ZFS doesn't always like it when the device names change... There
has been problems/bugs exposed by this in the past.

-marc

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