Re: [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10

2011-03-23 Thread Edho P Arief
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think site: Phoronix.com already did comparisons with ZFS under several
 platforms and other (Linux) file systems without sweat.

with single disk configuration no less (er, more) ;)

You may want to check this instead: http://www.zfsbuild.com/
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Upgrade a degraded pool

2010-10-14 Thread Edho P Arief
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Oskar oskars.ga...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know that this is not necessarily the right forum, but the FreeBSD forum 
 haven't been able to help me...

 I recently updated my FreeBSD 8.0 RC3 to 8.1 and after the update I can't 
 import my zpool. My computer says that no such pool exists, even though it 
 can be seen with the zpool status command. I assume that it's due to 
 different zfs versions. That should be solved by a zpool upgrade, BUT the 
 problem is that I also have a failed disk. What happens to my data if I 
 upgrade a degraded pool? Furthermore a disk label was lost and zfs tried to 
 replace the disk, with a disk which won't be available once I get the disk 
 re-labeled. I have no clues about what to do... :s


providing these may (or may not) help in giving better assistance:

- output of atacontrol list and camcontrol devlist
- output of gpart show
- output of glabel status
- output of zpool status
- output of zpool list
- output of zpool import
- output of zfs list
- output of mount

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Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to check zfs/zpool version programatically

2010-10-09 Thread Edho P Arief
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:18 AM, sridhar surampudi
toyours_srid...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi,

 what is the right way to check versions of zfs and zpool ??

 I am writing piece of code which call zfs command line further. Before 
 actually initiating and going ahead I wan to check the kind of version zfs 
 and zpool present on the system.

 As an example zpool split is not present on prior to 134 build (not sure 
 exactly) so if an application using my code should fail if zpool split is 
 called.

 Is there any zfs version or zpool version command present in recent updates? 
 or is there any other way ( reading some file ) I can get these details?



zfs upgrade
zpool upgrade

?


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Howto reclaim space under legacy mountpoint?

2010-09-19 Thread Edho P Arief
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:
 I moved my home directories to a new disk and then mounted the disk using a 
 legacy mount point over /export/home.  Here is the output of the zfs list:

 NAME                 USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 rpool               55.8G  11.1G    83K  /rpool
 rpool/ROOT          21.1G  11.1G    19K  legacy
 rpool/ROOT/snv-134  21.1G  11.1G  14.3G  /
 rpool/dump          1.97G  11.1G  1.97G  -
 rpool/export        30.8G  11.1G    23K  /export
 rpool/export/home   30.8G  11.1G  29.3G  legacy
 rpool/swap          1.97G  12.9G   144M  -
 users               32.8G   881G  31.1G  /export/home

 The question is how to remove the files from the orginal rpool/export/home 
 (non mount point) rpool?  I a bit nervous to do a:


set mountpoint to somewhere and decide for yourself.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] resilver that never finishes

2010-09-18 Thread Edho P Arief
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Tom Bird t...@marmot.org.uk wrote:
 All said and done though, we will have to live with snv_134's bugs from now
 on, or perhaps I could try Sol 10.


or OpenIllumos. Or Nexenta. Or FreeBSD. Or insert osol distro name.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4k block alignment question (X-25E)

2010-08-30 Thread Edho P Arief
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:
 In any case -- any thoughts on whether or not I'll be helping anything
 if I change my slog slice starting cylinder to be 4k aligned even
 though slice 0 isn't?


some people claims that due to how zfs works, there will be
performance hit as long the reported sector size is different with the
physical size.

This thread[1] has the discussion on what happened and how to handle
such drives on freebsd.

[1] http://marc.info/?l=freebsd-fsm=126976001214266w=2

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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs lists discrepancy after added a new vdev to pool

2010-08-27 Thread Edho P Arief
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Darin Perusich
darin.perus...@cognigencorp.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 I'm sure this has been discussed previously but I haven't been able to find an
 answer to this. I've added another raidz1 vdev to an existing storage pool and
 the increased available storage isn't reflected in the 'zfs list' output. Why
 is this?


you must do zpool export followed by zpool import

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS SCRUB

2010-08-09 Thread Edho P Arief
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Mohammed Sadiq sadiq1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Is it recommended to do scrub while the filesystem is mounted .

yes

 How
 frequently do we have to do scrub and at what circumstances.


some people say weekly, some other monthly, some other, like myself,
whenever remember to. Usually done when the load is at its lightest.



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Re: [zfs-discuss] Encryption?

2010-07-11 Thread Edho P Arief
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Michael Johnson
mjjohnson@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm planning on running FreeBSD in VirtualBox (with a Linux host) and giving
 it raw disk access to four drives, which I plan to configure as a raidz2
 volume.
 On top of that, I'm considering using encryption.  I understand that ZFS
 doesn't yet natively support encryption, so my idea was to set each drive up
 with full-disk encryption in the Linux host (e.g., using TrueCrypt or
 dmcrypt), mount the encrypted drives, and then give the virtual machine
 access to the virtual unencrypted drives.  So the encryption would be
 transparent to FreeBSD.
 However, I don't know enough about ZFS to know if this is a good idea.  I
 know that I need to specifically configure VirtualBox to respect cache
 flushes, so that data really is on disk when ZFS expects it to be.  Would
 putting ZFS on top of full-disk encryption like this cause any problems?
  E.g., if the (encrypted) physical disk has a problem and as a result a
 larger chunk of the unencrypted data is corrupted, would ZFS handle that
 well?  Are there any other possible consequences of this idea that I should
 know about?  (I'm not too worried about any hits in performance; I won't be
 reading or writing heavily, nor in time-sensitive applications.)
 I should add that since this is a desktop I'm not nearly as worried about
 encryption as if it were a laptop (theft or loss are less likely), but
 encryption would still be nice.  However, data integrity is the most
 important thing (I'm storing backups of my personal files on this), so if
 there's a chance that ZFS wouldn't handle errors well when on top of
 encryption, I'll just go without it.
 Thanks,
 Michael


you can also create zfs on top of GELI[1][2] devices. Create the
encrypted disks first and then use that to create zpool.

Exact steps (assuming single disk, da1):

- create the key
# dd if=/dev/random of=/root/da1.key bs=64 count=1

- initialize GELI disk, if you want to only use the key as
authentication method or automatically attach on boot, check the
reference links for initialization and configuration (-K and -b)
# geli init -s 4096 -K da1.key /dev/da1

- attach GELI disk
# geli attach -k da1.key /dev/da1

- create zpool, either directly on geli disk or by creating it on top of GPT
direct:
# zpool create securepool da1.eli

on top of GPT:
# gpart create -s gpt da1.eli
# gpart add -t freebsd-zfs da1.eli
# zpool create securepool da1.elip1

- adjust rc.conf and loader.conf accordingly

Another tutorial: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=2775

[1] 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-encrypting.html

[2] 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=geliapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASEformat=html

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating to ZFS

2010-06-04 Thread Edho P Arief
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, zfsnoob4 zfsnoob...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 It's not easy to make Solaris slices on the boot drive.

 As I am just realizing. The installer does not have any kind of partition 
 software.

 I have a linux boot disc and I am contemplating using gparted to resize the 
 win partition to create a raw 50GB empty partition. Can the installer format 
 a raw partition into a Solaris FS? If it can it will be easy (assuming it can 
 set up the dual boot properly).

 This is what I'm thinking:
 1) Use Gparted to resize the windows partition and therefore create a 50GB 
 raw partition.
 2) Use the opensolaris installer to format the raw partition into a Solaris 
 FS.
 3) Install opensolaris 2009.06, the setup should automatically configure the 
 dual boot with windows and opensolaris.

 Does that make sense?


that's exactly what I usually do


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Can RAIDZ disks be slices ?

2010-04-19 Thread Edho P Arief
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
 And lose my existing data on those 2 500GB disks?



 Copy it back form the temporary pool, you are replacing your existing pool,
 aren't you?  So you'll loose the data on it regardless.

 Please, at least read the post before replying:(


 I did.


a little bit easier to read:

current condition:
- 2x500gb disks striped, contains data
- empty 750gb dan 1tb

target:
- 3x500gb raidz with third disk from 1tb/750gb

originally proposed method:
- create 3x500gb raidz using 500gb from 750gb and 500gb x2 from 1tb slices
- move data from striped source to new raidz pool
- destroy striped pool
- replace one 500gb slice at 1tb disk to 500gb disk previously striped
- optionally replace 500gb at 750gb (or 1tb) disk to another 500gb
disk previously striped

suggested method by Ian:
- create 1tb pool using 1tb disk
- move data from striped source to new raidz pool
- destroy striped pool
- create 3x500gb raidz pool using 2x500gb disks and 750gb disk
- move data back to new raidz pool

Using the former method will be slower because of using two components
in one disk, increasing write load.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Can RAIDZ disks be slices ?

2010-04-19 Thread Edho P Arief
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Sunil funt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 ouch! My apologies! I did not understand what you were trying to say.

 I was gearing towards:

 1. Using the newer 1TB in the eventual RAIDZ. Newer hardware typically means 
 (slightly) faster access times and sequential throughput.
 2. Getting the RAIDZ serviceable quick. Your method will cause two full copy 
 operations. Data will likely be copied to the same extent with my method but 
 it will become and remain available (almost) all the time (minus 1TB failing 
 on me during the transition).
 --

probably you can take the second slice on 1tb offline after creating
raidz pool to increase speed.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Q : recommendations for zpool configuration

2010-03-19 Thread Edho P Arief
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:34 PM, taemun tae...@gmail.com wrote:
 A pool with a 4-wide raidz2 is a completely nonsensical idea. It has the
 same amount of accessible storage as two striped mirrors. And would be
 slower in terms of IOPS, and be harder to upgrade in the future (you'd need
 to keep adding four drives for every expansion with raidz2 - with mirrors
 you only need to add another two drives to the pool).
 Just my $0.02


but it can survive on failure of 2 random disks in the pool.

In striped mirror:
mirror1
  diskA
  diskB
mirror2
  diskC
  diskD

In event diskA and diskB (or diskC and diskD) failed together, entire
pool is lost.

In raidz2:
raidz2-1
  diskA
  diskB
  diskC
  diskD

Any combination of 2 disks can fail at same time and the pool will still intact.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Posible newbie question about space between zpool and zfs file systems

2010-03-17 Thread Edho P Arief
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.com wrote:
 IMHO, what matters is that pretty much everything from the disk controller
 to the CPU and network interface is advertised in power-of-2 terms and disks
 sit alone using power-of-10. And students are taught that computers work
 with bits and so everything is a power of 2.


Apparently someone wrote false information on Wikipedia [1].

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Examples

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Posible newbie question about space between zpool and zfs file systems

2010-03-16 Thread Edho P Arief
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com wrote:
 Up until 5 years ago (or so), GigaByte meant a power of 2 to EVERYONE, not
 just us techies.   I would hardly call 40+ years of using the various
 giga/mega/kilo  prefixes as a power of 2 in computer science as
 non-authoritative.  In fact, I would argue that the HD manufacturers don't
 have a leg to stand on - it's not like they were outside the field and
 used to the standard SI notation of powers of 10.  Nope. They're inside
 the industry, used the powers-of-2 for decades, then suddenly decided to
 modify that meaning, as it served their marketing purposes.


it's probably just me, but I always raged when calculating anything
using imperial units, * binary bytes and time.

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