Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread JT Stewart
better but I don't know if you all realise how negative you all sound, as if it was better if it wasn't happening at all. Yeah, but you know we don't actually feel that way right, because every message (except maybe Tmo's) has sad something like I'll be there anyway, or what I have said,

(313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Toby Frith
19 Minneapolis, MN - Myth 20 Milwaukee, WI - Eagles Ballroom 23 Denver, CO - The Fillmore 26 Indio, CA - Coachella Music Festival I think we might see something new from Kraftwerk on these shows - they're similar to their mini-tours of 1990 and 2002 when they showcased a new set up on each

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Kuszynski
whats fwiw On 3/13/08, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: better but I don't know if you all realise how negative you all sound, as if it was better if it wasn't happening at all. Yeah, but you know we don't actually feel that way right, because every message (except maybe Tmo's) has

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Chester
on that note, putting the festival line up to one side - has there been any news of good afterparties happening yet? other than the Soul Skate one... Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i spend all my money over festival weekend at local detroit record stores, restaurants, and clubs that support the

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Odeluga, Ken
For what it's worth. Or: Friday's when it's worse. Lame I know, but I had to have a go. -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:08 PM To: JT Stewart; M Ng; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 whats fwiw On

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Kuszynski
i thought it was from what i witnessed but that sounded funny. ttyl. tx. On 3/13/08, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth. Or: Friday's when it's worse. Lame I know, but I had to have a go. -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but some of the artists over the past 2 years have been a gigantic joke. maybe you want to go back to bad raves, but i feel like that is devoid of any culture at all in 2008. I can't the last year's lineup on

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Dan Bean
Parties possibly in the pipeline from Beatdown and Rick Wilhite separately. V. Much tbc though. -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2008 12:10 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 on that note,

Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
WTF!!! Minneapolis??? F*ck me - I don't have to travel! come to Minneapolis peeps! I'll show you around. happy happy happy happy happy MEK Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/13/2008 03:58:29 AM: 19 Minneapolis, MN - Myth 20 Milwaukee, WI - Eagles Ballroom 23 Denver, CO - The

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't the last year's lineup on the site because i keep getting redirected to the photo gallery, but the press release highlights Jeff Mills, Moodymann, and Model 500?! press releases highlighting stuff isnt

Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Last time I traveled to see Kraftwerk I got in a car accident. I am NOT taking a plane to see them lest I get in a PLANE accident. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come to Minneapolis peeps! I'll show you around. -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19 Minneapolis, MN - Myth 20 Milwaukee, WI - Eagles Ballroom 23 Denver, CO - The Fillmore 26 Indio, CA - Coachella Music Festival man, that is weak. my son wants to see Kraftwerk S much, but the closes one to me is

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:54 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: think we can all cut Paxahau some slack and let the festival improve gradually. improve gradually? at the rate they are improving now, the festival will be completely worthless in a year or two. i love the better organization and

RE: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Toby Frith
Kraftwerk have done mini-tours before, when showcasing or testing a new live set up. They usually do 1-3 gigs before 1 larger one, which in this instance is Coachella. Not sure if this does mean a new live performance including set-up and songs, but it's a distinct possibility.

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread jwan allen
All excellent points, there have been questionable performers since the first year (I've attended every festival to date), but since the first year it's always been about events around the festival where the real pay-off has been for me. Record shopping, after parties (provided they don't get shut

Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there does seem to be some kind of Kraftwerk Kurse for some people Well, I went to see them after my accident anyway! I was already in NYC, 5 minutes from my destination when I got hit, and I wasn't driving all the way back on those

Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
(amended for the filters) yes, please play it safe there does seem to be some kind of Kraftwerk Kurse for some people I had a friend who tried time and again to see them once he got into an accident, another time something else happened and he couldn't make it (but he had the ticket) last time

(313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
fans of Weather Report might want to prick up their ears I saw that Return to Forever (Chick Corea, Al DiMeola, Lenny White and Stanley Clarke) is back together and going on tour they've got a stop here in Minneapolis MEK

Re: (313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Sweet, I'll bring my anonymous mask and anti-Scientology propaganda! On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fans of Weather Report might want to prick up their ears I saw that Return to Forever (Chick Corea, Al DiMeola, Lenny White and Stanley Clarke) is back together

Re: (313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
yeah, that's the one bad thing about Corea are the rest of the band into it too? I think Clarke was for a few year but left in the 80s MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/13/2008 10:46:53 AM: Sweet, I'll bring my anonymous mask and anti-Scientology propaganda! On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:42

Re: (313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Wikipedia lists Stanley Clarke as a FORMER Scientologist. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, that's the one bad thing about Corea are the rest of the band into it too? I think Clarke was for a few year but left in the 80s MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on

Re: (313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I saw this on wiki and had a good laugh Not all musicians he has collaborated with have been content with his views. Reportedly, Joe Farrell once told him not to lay that Scientology sh*t on him man am I having a hard time getting back to work after that Kraftwerk news :-D MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: (313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever

2008-03-13 Thread Odeluga, Ken
LOL! Joe Farrell speaks for me too in this case! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:02 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) jazz-rock fusion Return to Forever I saw

(313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread Todd Sines
so just a heads up we have a whopping 23 Yay's for the t-shirt [including those who want the 1 and /or 2-sided [more like a wraparound shirt] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf

Re: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
is kent also still doing the martin dust GM/313 design? On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so just a heads up we have a whopping 23 Yay's for the t-shirt [including those who want the 1 and /or 2-sided [more like a wraparound shirt]

(313) Festival rumors

2008-03-13 Thread tevans1111
This is such a hateraid list, who didn't have a great time last year? The sound was great, 6 hrs of RS, a great kicking dancefloor in the detroit tent. I would much rather hear real detroit music in a tent than on the main stage, where people are stuck in some spectacle of watching a

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Warning, last time I did any kind of analysis like that I was shouted down :) The archives are at http://elists.resynthesize.com/313 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anybody have a complete archive of the festival lineups throughout the years? i

Re: (313) Festival rumors

2008-03-13 Thread M Ng
hear hear! yeah, i never said - i had a great time, it was great to see a load of people from NYC and the UK make it out there, :) haven't had the op to ever see DBX live, so it'd be great if it's a true rumour! On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is such a

Re: (313) Rex Club 20 years

2008-03-13 Thread Benoît Pueyo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Benoit When is it? From 14th to 31st may. Parties from wednesday to sundays each week (same as for the 15th anniversary). -- Benoît. New email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nouvel email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread fab.
hi will it be possible for those of us that won't go to Movement to buy one? on a side note, i was a little bit disappointed that rome wasn't on there, but I guess Rome's 313 legacy is slightly dated and not too hyped... fab ps: did you manage to recover your luggage? - Original Message

Re: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
eh, I don't see why Grand Rapids is on there besides maybe a bit of an inside joke but dropping Düsseldorf off? That's where Kraftwerk are from! just a thought I'll still buy one MEK fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/13/2008 02:27:11 PM: hi will it be possible for those of us that won't

Re: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
puh, it just dawned on me that the cities are meant to represent the members (where I was thinking more about the music) I'm a bit s---l---o---w MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/13/2008 02:30:53 PM: eh, I don't see why Grand Rapids is on there besides maybe a bit of an inside

RE: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread Sébastien Dalphond
Jebus, I just realized that myself as well. Weel, if it's not too late, I'd like to see Montreal on the t-shirt (I'm pretty sure there are other Monreal members like myself). Seb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 13, 2008 3:50 PM

Re: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit

2008-03-13 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Isn't Marco Passarani from Rome? He's great. Such a beautiful city, too - lovely people. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/03/2008, at 6:27 AM, fab. wrote: hi will it be possible for those of us that won't go to Movement to buy one? on a side

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Detroit Techno Militia
A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival in years past. ADULT JOHN ARNOLD A GUY CALLED GERALD JUAN ATKINS ARIL

(313) May 23rd

2008-03-13 Thread UI Design
Hey Everyone... I know there's a lot of complaints from people about DEMF never listening to people about what the people want... so I figured I should ask the enthusiasts of Detroit music what they would like to see. I'm Programming the Campus Martius Park FREE 4th Fridays Festival that happens

RE: (313) May 23rd

2008-03-13 Thread Dan Bean
I won't be there unfortunately since I fly in the day after, but by the sound of it Inohs Sivad would fit your bill. -Original Message- From: UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2008 21:22 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) May 23rd Hey Everyone... I know there's a lot of

Re: (313) Festival rumors

2008-03-13 Thread Southern Outpost
Yep, the only reason why I went to the Fest last year was to see RS playing 6 hours of dub bliss in the rain. The sound at that stage was incredible, i think my internals got re-arranged from the subs. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is such a hateraid list,

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Southern Outpost
are u sure you got them all? ;) On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Greg Earle
So JT, in 2 different posts you're basically admitting that you didn't go to the festival either last year or the year before? If so, you've automatically lost your right to bitch about it. Detroit, to me, is not a festival. Detroit is a pilgrimage to Mecca. Detroit is about reuniting with

Re: Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread Greg Earle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there does seem to be some kind of Kraftwerk Kurse for some people In 2004, I had a ticket to see them at Coachella, and a plane ticket to San Francisco to go see them at The Warfield. A week or so before Coachella, I came down with adult Chicken Pox and had to miss

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So JT, in 2 different posts you're basically admitting that you didn't go to the festival either last year or the year before? If so, you've automatically lost your right to bitch about it. incorrect. Detroit, to me, is

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Todd Sines
actually, you didn't. I know at least Autechre, Kit Clayton, Titonton and myself played the second year at the underground stage. ;) Looks like most of 2001 was omitted; and yet Kenny Larkin is on there 4 times.. did he really play 4 times? +odd -- On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Southern

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the detroit area of the 48 or so who have performed more than once, 38 have been from detroit (80%) Kevin Saunderson has played five times, and Mike Grant and Mike Huckaby

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
er i meant seven years, duh On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the detroit area of the 48 or so who have performed more than

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread /0
sounds good to me. 1/3 detroit, 2/3 other. - Original Message - From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the detroit area of the 48 or so who have performed more than once, 38 have been from

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
kent when are you going to ban this asswipe from the list? at least that douchebag from germany who you banned was posting music related content. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:07 PM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds good to me. 1/3 detroit, 2/3 other. - Original Message - From:

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be ideal, yes, but i'd bet that what has really happened is that the overall number of performers has increased, while the detroit representation has stayed about the same. and, realistically, i think the

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
found this via wayback machine line-up for 2001 (seems partial to me but maybe not) I think I might have a schedule from the very first one kicking around in a box @ home Official lineup in alphabetical order. Afronaught Alton Miller Autechre Ayro Binary Star Carl Cox Common Factor Dark River

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
this is exactly what a list of non-detroit artists should look like at a detroit festival. we dont need no booka shade! tom On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found this via wayback machine line-up for 2001 (seems partial to me but maybe not) I think I might have a

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread darnistle
Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the festival. Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below. -- {}0+| Detroit Techno Militia wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the more i realize how incomplete it is. man, 2001 ruled. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the

(313) First DEMF line-up

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
found this in the archives it was from Dale Lawrence, May 1st 2000 __ MAY 27 : DAY ONE __ DEMF Stage: 13:00 Craig Taborn 14:00 Space Time Continuum 15:00 DJ Spooky 17:00 Tikiman 19:00 DBX 20:00 TBA 20:30 Isotope 217 21:30 Stacey Pullen 00:00

RE: Re: (313) Kraftwerk US shows in April

2008-03-13 Thread rg
In autumn 1990 or 91 I was in Prague Czechoslovakia, a random visit as someone had given me a few days left on a rail pass and I was in Switzerland. I saw posters in Czech for 'Kraftwerk' in the city, so wrote it down and on the day headed out with 6 hours to spare. Ended up at the wrong place,