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From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
Maybe we
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your point being that musical styles and popularity ebbs and
flows?
duh
my point being that trends in a style ebb and flow very
drastically and quickly. people will be on to something else by
then and
well i guess that finally confirms tristans very astute observation that
it basically comes down to optimist vs pessimist.
i for one will enjoy the music enjoy, and enjoy it more so in the times
when it draws more than a handful of scowling purists.
you seem to have spent most of the day railing
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well i guess that finally confirms tristans very astute
observation that
it basically comes down to optimist vs pessimist.
why is it pessimism? id call it being realistic vs being
idealistic.
i for one
.
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Sent: 01 April 2004 03:19
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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well i guess that finally confirms tristans very astute observation that it
basically comes down
And i remember something about connection machine returning to active duty
does anyone get the feeling that techno is undergoing a re-birth of sorts?
we're suddenly seeing releases from artists who haven't released new
material for several years
and maybe it's just me but there seems to be a
Subject: Re: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
And i remember something about connection machine returning to active duty
does anyone get the feeling that techno is undergoing a re-birth of sorts?
we're suddenly seeing releases from artists who haven't released new
material for several
is
undeniably a good thing!
Brendan
(donning flame-proof jacket)
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Sent: 31 March 2004 16:33
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And i remember
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Sent: 31 March 2004 16:33
To: Peteri, Jochem
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And i remember something about connection machine returning
to active duty
does anyone get the feeling that techno is undergoing a
re-birth of sorts
I didn't mean to be pining for the old days - new techno artists have
always been welcome in my book
what I meant was there seems to be a few artists who never really released
a lot of music but what they did release was always well received. Problem
was they either DJ'd more than they
jacket)
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And i remember something about connection machine returning
Confused by this statement - is 1400 considered to be not many people in the US?
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To: Brendan Nelson
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To: Brendan Nelson
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Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 people to a
Brooklyn warehouse way off the beaten path
:06 PM
To: Brendan Nelson
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The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 people to
a Brooklyn warehouse way off the beaten path
in
the US?
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The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:06 PM
To: Brendan Nelson
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The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 people to a
Brooklyn warehouse way off the beaten path
then Premier League 313 DJs)
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:17 PM
To: Robert Taylor
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Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
no- its a LOT of people for techno
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no- its a LOT of people for techno in America
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
Confused by this statement - is 1400 considered to be not
many people in the US?
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is 1400 hipsters at a NYC show really that outlandish? kompakt and
that sublow grime nonsense rephlex is pushing now
(plasticman?!?!?!? hahahahaha) is totally hipster these days.
ditto ms kitten. i wonder if you could bring 1400 serious techno
fans
mix had everything from Der Zyklus to Autechre to Blaze
to Marshall Jefferson on it.
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:37 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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is 1400
I wouldn't call Rephlex/Kompakt 'poppier techno', though I can see how
Kompakt's sound might have a broader appeal
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:33 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:37 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
is 1400 hipsters at a NYC show really that outlandish? kompakt
and
that sublow grime nonsense rephlex is pushing now
(plasticman?!?!?!? hahahahaha) is totally hipster these days.
ditto
to a Miss Kittin gig
and being blasted by Autechre.
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:50 PM
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im not making any value judgements on the music, i
DJs)
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no- its a LOT of people for techno in America
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Not at all - it's encouraging if it gets these shallow style mag
readers to get into music that hasn't been decreed by the almighty
God of Hip as 'cool'.
I do hope the 'hipsters' weren't
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so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
go to
techno parties? good f**kin' grief.
how hard is it to differentiate between people who trend hop
(hipsters) and people who are long term
.
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so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
go to
techno parties? good f**kin' grief.
how hard
why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
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so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
go to
techno parties? good f**kin' grief.
taste!!!
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Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:59 a.m.
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why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
boy im glad we didnt have to get down to name calling or anything.
anyway, in the context of a renaissance i dont think that a
temporary fad is going to have
it feel s good to have
authentic taste!!!
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Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:59 a.m.
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why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility of
new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a fad
or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see Surgeon last time he
was in town, and
I've seen people wearing copies of that t-shirt...
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From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 8:10 a.m.
To: 'Robert Taylor'
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
I've seen people wearing copies of that t-shirt...
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no- repressing will only reconfirm the music's greatness to all the people
who are already into it. preaching to the choir.
a 'trendy' movement within this type of music (it amazes me how purist can
always pull the wagons in tighter) will encourage some much needed
economic growth for artists as
[Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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why does it make a difference you frigin' knob?
It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility of
new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a fad
or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see
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Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
wow- i think you've just achieve an entirely new level of constipation.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) wrote:
...and these trend hoppers don't really enjoy the music they listen
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From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
Have you heard Miss Kittin's DJing recently?
She's no flash-in-the-pan electrogash artiste - her sets
[Pete Grammenos [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Miss kitten made a fan out of me, nothing electoclash about her set when she
played here in nyc w/ mayer a few weeks ago. she played some hard as nails
techno and i would even go as far as to say that she played more diverse and
interesting than mayer.
As
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Maybe we need a 313 t-shirt sporting the logo 'I'm Enjoying Myself More Than
You Because I'm For Real'
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no- repressing will only reconfirm the music's greatness to all
the people
who are already into it. preaching to the choir.
how exactly is that? is everyone just gonna buy their second and
third copies of
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in the case you make here, repressing is an effect, not a cause. why are
people buying repressings? how are they discovering the older music. mybe
their
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It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility
of
new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a
fad
or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see Surgeon
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in the case you make here, repressing is an effect, not a cause.
why are
people buying repressings? how are they discovering the older
music. mybe
their hipsters who got turned on my kompakt or miss kittin?
but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some sort of
'trend' leading them to discover this music.
you seem to be very fond of subdividing people. i walk into a party and
see a bunch of people who are there to enjoy whatever music is being
played at that party. You seem to walk in
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but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some
sort of
'trend' leading them to discover this music.
from hearing me and other deejays playing the records in the first
place. the guy who owns
but how did the hip-hop heads hear it? obviously there's some
sort of
'trend' leading them to discover this music.
from hearing me and other deejays playing the records in the first
place. the guy who owns the shop is a massive hiphop head and
loves his native tongues era stuff as well as
I'm really enjoying this! I think you two are both making some great points.
I'll say this much. Like with every trend in music, it's impossible to
predict what takes hold or to what degree, and people spend ages trying to
figure out why things have taken hold after the fact: what other
my email acct just ate my long reply to this. argh. anyway, i
conceded your point about kompakt working hard to achieve a new
audience, but i simply dont think that is the only reason for
their popularity. we'll remember this thread and 2 years from now
when kompakt shows dont draw 400 much
your point being that musical styles and popularity ebbs and flows?
duh
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
my email acct just ate my long reply to this. argh. anyway, i
conceded your point about kompakt working hard to achieve a new
audience, but i simply dont think that is
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