Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread Saul Goode
i personally think that advertising and music are like water electricity. no matter how good the music is, the freedom of it's art is completely ruined by swirling and flashing ads. i have a real grudge against commercialism, and unless it's an ad for an item that truly helps you(like a corn

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread Eaton J. Blumenstein
: Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF i personally think that advertising and music are like water electricity. no matter how good the music is, the freedom of it's art is completely ruined by swirling and flashing ads. i have a real grudge against commercialism, and unless it's an ad

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Beside the big booming system up front, which we walked right past, or avoided entirely by coming down the side alley, Ford was out-of-sight out-of-mind. But the video crap was a bit annoying. By the way...during Inner City, the smiley face and Remember 1989 (or was it '88?) across the screen.

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF (Underground stage)

2001-05-30 Thread M Elliot-Knight
However, the Bacardi crap was pissing me off! I don't ever want to see that f*cking commercial again! MEK From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:04:18 - So what did you guys think? did the Ford over do

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread Eaton J. Blumenstein
: Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF i personally think that advertising and music are like water electricity. no matter how good the music is, the freedom of it's art is completely ruined by swirling and flashing ads. i have a real grudge against commercialism, and unless it's an ad

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread Fred Heutte
The commercial stuff was relatively innocuous and predictably clueless. The loops they were running on the screen at the Cpop stage were especially dumb. Like Dan, I was amused/disgusted by the Bacardi thing, but at least they were running live shots of the performance quite a bit of the time at

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread Dennis Donohue
I was very impressed by how low key ford actually. Yeah, they had two focuses at the front of the festival. But there weren't any Huge Focus signs all over, If I remember correctly, the main stage was lined with millions of them on the first night. They said Detroit techno - Ford Focus.

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-30 Thread Kent williams
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Jayson B. wrote: So what did you guys think? did the Ford over do it? Was it super commercialized to the point where it ruined the phatty underground vibe? To Ford's credit, they had excellent DJs in their focus tent all weekend, including DJ Horsepower, and Reggie

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Dan Sicko
I didn't think they *completely* overdid it ... and it certainly didn't ruin the festival. The swirling psychedelic Ford logos were a bit silly though. The Bacardi video loop on the Underground stage was stomach-turning as well ... -d At 2:04 PM + 5/29/2001, Jayson B. wrote: So what

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Zak-a -licious!!
PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:54:43 -0500 Maybe it'll be fueled by a Bacardi-powered mini-saga of commercials like Folger's did some years back on TV

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jayson B.
Git on it Carol next year if she books oakenfold I swear Its going to be a fullscale protest from the begining. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

RE: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jeremy Meadows
I didn't know they were given free focuses, what the hell is that? I thought that the deal honoring them on Monday was questionable, but free cars? It was nice to find out that all it takes for city counsel and other city officials (archer) to support the music and those who love it (their

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Paul
Mabye it's just me, but I think they did. Renaming the festival is probably the largest thing (buying the main stage wasn't enough?),but then the swirling ford logos, to the focus racer dude racing down the endless tunnel video effect, to the constant focus focus focus every single direction

Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jayson B.
i'm very envious of you people who got into jak (The line was almost all around the building at quarter-after-12). I understand richie's love of small venues, but i honestly thought this wasn't the weekend to do it. I mean, there were just so many out of towners who i'm sure would've LOVED