ok, so
the tracks are all very sparse and dare i say minimal in the real sense of
the word. not over produced to hell clickhouse minimalism and a very
repetitive tracks, like most of ford's output.
my favourite tracks are the ones on side a - Very and Test.
Very has a lovely warm synth pads
I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture
of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so
strong in Europe - I know mine is pretty flawed, but in
the absence of alternatives (other than euro-faggots suck :)
I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it
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I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture
of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so
strong in Europe - I know mine is pretty flawed, but in
the absence
here`s my two cents.
after hearing so many local dj`s who play techno like proggy house or
even worse mixing it only in the end, i must say techno is a kind of
music which should be mixed as hell. people like mills,hood,young and
suchr masters at this. trying to mess with some gigolo 80`s stuff
them.
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Giles Dickerson wrote:
+rules. BUT, and this is a big one, you usually need to know the rules to
+break them.
what? seems to me that people who don't know the rules break them all the
time.
you don't need to know a damn thing.
chad
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Giles Dickerson wrote:
+rules. BUT, and this is a big one, you
i didn't mean to come out so arguementative, but i think you see my point.
i think for most people, no matter who it is or where they are, if they're
going off it's more about a connection with the sound and surrounding
space... not so much about something to do with their ego or whether or
not
Esp. when you have records that are maybe hard as nails and 'straight'
techno.. you have to inject some funk into them with the way you play them
in a mix, because on their own, (just cleanly mixing one into the other)
tends to be pretty funk-less, or at best just a tad boring or uninspired...
Heard DJ Bone last week dj live for the very first time and was very
impressed I must say! Not as much tricks as Claude Young, but 3 decks,
effects, it was great!
Remco
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Yeah good point, Bone is brilliant at mixing! Charles Siegling too. I'm
supposed to be going to Voodoo to catch him tonight with DJ Rush but
unfortunately can't make it now.
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I couldn't agree with Matt more.
as i listen to my old wizard, hotmix 5, ron hardy, derrick may mixes it is
difficult to overlook the fact that their innovative status and their unique
sound came from their style of mixing a diversity of often elusive records
in a creative way.
it is sad to
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I couldn't agree with Matt more.
as i listen to my old wizard, hotmix
from other
'blenders'?
personally i am very much into both styles
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...
Rob Hood
have to disagree here, mark broom has excellent
dj skills, baby ford is not the typical dj doing lots
of tricks, but i enjoy his mix of classics and newer
stuff very much, and his mixing has improved a lot
expect things like rock to the beat, ride the rhythm,
and disco classics from patrick
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Like a lot of UK DJs, the tracks are amazing, but the skills are asi-asi.
Mark Broom is the same way, as are a lot of those guys.
I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills
Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture
uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions.
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Like a lot of UK DJs, the tracks are amazing, but the skills are asi-asi.
Mark Broom is the same way, as are a lot of those guys.
I think fans of Detroit techno get
I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills
Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture
than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions)
uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions.
It's still one of the lamest comments
I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not necessarily a bad
reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that
it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America.
Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and
so
its based on hearing a whole lot of DJ sets over the years.
i guess i have everyone with a co.uk panties in a bunch.
there are lots of great european djs.
but there's also a lot who have great selection, maybe great producers,
but their actual mixing isn't as flawless as what you usually hear
a couple of
mistakes will be in there but at least they are trying instead of a seamless
CD mix that sounds like a pro tool mix..
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I think
:I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not
:necessarily a bad
:reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that
:it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America.
:Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally)
:drink,
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Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and
so to them it's more of a directly musical experience -
to be honest, most kids that age that go clubbing in Europe do E.
and no one tends to ask you
for me it's the
opposite - I like to hear what a DJ is actually doing, and a pro-tools style
mix will generally bore me stiff...
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Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't
(legally) drink, and
so to them it's more of a directly musical
I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are
illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any
number of individual and cultural factors lead people to choice between
different kinds of drugs when they go out.
to me, that's just one among a great number
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I think E and alcohol have
similar effects in that they both make people lose interest in the
technicalities of a DJ set and pay more attention to the general flow and
structure instead...
oh i couldn't agree more - it's the
doing a live set, well hats off to you mate!
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Oh, I wasn't referring specifically to Claude Young
so your saying we all piss heads... :0)
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I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are
illegal
it is.
Although I guess another theory could be explained in only two words - hip
hop...
Brendan
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I don't agree
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I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are
illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any
number of individual and cultural factors lead people to
choice
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I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture of skilled,
performing DJs is strong in the US and not so strong in Europe - I know
mine
is pretty flawed, but in the absence of alternatives (other than
euro-faggots suck :) I'm
Zip is playing the Paxahau Perlon party at Panacea (aliteration whut!!!)
Baby Ford is not playing in Detroit.
You can hear Baby Ford at www.paxahau.com
Like a lot of UK DJs, the tracks are amazing, but the skills are asi-asi.
Mark Broom is the same way, as are a lot of those guys.
I think
or can't be made any longer?
d 'Wishing I could build a time machine' K
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while browsing around through a record store yesterday
probably not his best work. He became famous with Oochie Koochie and
Chickie Chickie Aah Aah back in the day --- 1989??? He also did that
Minimal Man record on the UK Vinyl Solutions label.
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He recorded a couple of Minimal Man, don't know the all the details. He also
did something with Marc Broom.
Oh yeah his remix 'The Vineyard' from Florence on Eevolute is brilliant.
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probably not
: probably not his best work. He became famous with Oochie Koochie and
: Chickie Chickie Aah Aah back in the day --- 1989??? He also did that
: Minimal Man record on the UK Vinyl Solutions label.
does chickie chickie aah aah go: mmm mmm yeah yeah???
YES IM SERIOUS!
tan...
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seems to be a general lack of baby ford knowledge.
The 'ford trax' album is credited with being a seminal acid house album
(containing oochy koochie).
Since then it was all fairly quiet 'til the mid nineties, when the ifach
label was launched.
His work is fairly inconsistent, but he is still
there's a lot of info about what peter has done over the years at
www.babyford.com - i'm personally a fan of the early deep ifach stuff and
the tracks he did in pure plastic's early days.. there's also a great album
on blackmarket records 'headphoneasyrider' and you could do worse than check
while browsing around through a record store yesterday with a very short
amount of time, i ended up finding two baby ford records for 99 cents and
2.99$.
please keep all talk about baby ford off of this list. As you see, this
list is only about 313 techno. Wait until baby ford moves to
there´s a full lenght album comming out on KLANG in september and a twelve on
background 022 around the same time aswell that are worth being checked.
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bitching about off-topic posts also has nothing to do with 313 techno, so
get off your soapbox.
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Subject: RE: [313] baby ford?
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:11:53 +
while browsing around through a record store yesterday with a very
Check the following URL for news on Baby Ford's Ifach label who have a new
mix CD out at the moment which I recommend: Technoir (IFACH CD2) Mix CD by
Dj EON
http://www.hyperreal.org/music/bford/ifach/news.html
See other directories for other Pure Plastic/Ifach/trelik news.
matt
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There is the stuff he has put out on Ifach and Trelik(Cue Mclance to
come in with full discog) He also did an album for Black Market
International called Headphone Easy Rider, it is a really good if
somewhat warped double pack of minimal techno. If you see a copy I
recommend you check it out.
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