Re: [9fans] Awakening the Dormant and Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Akshat Kumar
> make sure you teach cat(1) the -v flag. that should make some people > very happy and will widely be regarded as a good move ;) Research UNIX version 8 has vis(1) -- the not-so-harmful. ak

Re: [9fans] Awakening the Dormant and Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Aug 18 00:42:24 EDT 2009, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: > make sure you teach cat(1) the -v flag. that should make some people > very happy and will widely be regarded as a good move ;) i believe the point here is that the first paper i read on plan 9 "Plan 9 from Bell Labs", /sys/do

Re: [9fans] Awakening the Dormant and Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread andrey mirtchovski
make sure you teach cat(1) the -v flag. that should make some people very happy and will widely be regarded as a good move ;)

[9fans] Awakening the Dormant and Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Akshat Kumar
I've been looking into the tools of Research UNIX versions 7 and 8 and 4.2BSD, as well as other old utilities that we may still find useful. So, with the sources at hand of most such programs, I've started porting some to native Plan 9. As the ports are completed, I'll make them available in /n/sou

Re: [9fans] make slides in plan 9

2009-08-17 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > TeX is available seperately - created a contrib package for it or > there is an iso (which has bitrotted a little but is still usable). > Beware: downloading it will take a long time (hours). The last time this came up, I did some research into

Re: [9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

2009-08-17 Thread Kris Maglione
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:48:23AM +0100, matt wrote: see /lib/keyboard for the other text entries the second column is the key sequence, the first uses the modifier key (left Alt on my pc) man keyboard -- Kris Maglione I did say something along the lines of "C makes it easy to shoot yours

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: >>I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy >>(in europe)? > > I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link: > > http://www.dykinson.com/book--Notes_on_the_plan_9tm_3rd_edition_kernel_source--23247.

Re: [9fans] make slides in plan 9

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Simon
How to make slides in plan 9 rsc has an example /n/sources/rsc/talk/* I have used the usenix-era troff foils macros quite often recently. /n/sources/contrib/steve/foils.tgz TeX is available seperately - created a contrib package for it or there is an iso (which has bitrotted a little but is stil

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
>I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy >(in europe)? I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link: http://www.dykinson.com/book--Notes_on_the_plan_9tm_3rd_edition_kernel_source--232471.html <>

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Simon
> Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed > copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States? I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy (in europe)? I thought sites like lulu only allowed the author to offer the document for publication, not tha

[9fans] iwp9 papers

2009-08-17 Thread erik quanstrom
remember, the deadline is fast approaching. please send your submissions to iwp9pa...@quanstro.net. more information here: http://iwp9.org - erik

Re: [9fans] vga and vmware

2009-08-17 Thread Tim Newsham
/dev/vgactl says 0xe000 has 0x3c mapped. Enough for 1024x768x4 bytes but not enoug hfor 1280x1024x4 bytes. I patched vgavmware.c line 179 to allocate 2*vmrd(vm, Rfbsize) instead of vmrd(vm, Rfbsize) and now I'm able to go into 1280x1024x8 [...] why would 8 bit color require 4 bytes-pe

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: > Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed > copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States? > > Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas > shipping... > > Thanks in advance! > > -Ben > I've looked at the co

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:44 AM, ron minnich wrote: > It had to happen: > System and method for accessing SMASH-CLP commands as a web service > United States Patent Application 20080016143 Oh there's absolutely no prior art there ... in the namespace thing. I think I'm going to patent patenti

Re: [9fans] securing venti and fileservers was: (vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive)

2009-08-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> 0) Venti contains neither authentication nor authorization. If you > care, you are advised to stick it on a trusted network, or listen only > on loopback. > > 1) The venti protocol reserves space for auth (see VtTauth0 and > VtTauth1 in /sys/include/venti.h), but I'm pretty sure nobody > impleme

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-17 Thread ron minnich
It had to happen: System and method for accessing SMASH-CLP commands as a web service United States Patent Application 20080016143 ron

Re: [9fans] securing venti and fileservers was: (vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive)

2009-08-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
Less of a "here's my experience" than a summary of earlier conversations with various people, but still perhaps relevant or helpful: 0) Venti contains neither authentication nor authorization. If you care, you are advised to stick it on a trusted network, or listen only on loopback. 1) The venti

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote: > >>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we? > >> > >> the difference being, 9p is the transport not > >> the representation of the data and 9p has > >> a fixed

[9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States? Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas shipping... Thanks in advance! -Ben

Re: [9fans] vga and vmware

2009-08-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> /dev/vgactl says 0xe000 has 0x3c mapped. Enough for > 1024x768x4 bytes but not enoug hfor 1280x1024x4 bytes. I > patched vgavmware.c line 179 to allocate 2*vmrd(vm, Rfbsize) > instead of vmrd(vm, Rfbsize) and now I'm able to go into 1280x1024x8 > mode. This is obviously just a hack, I

Re: [9fans] make slides in plan 9

2009-08-17 Thread hugo rivera
I have no idea about tex on plan 9, but I've always used beamer on linux, maybe it's included on plan 9. 2009/8/17, xiangyu : > Hi, everyone: > How to make slides in plan 9 ? I always use ConTeXt in linux, but > it doesn't contained in the TeX distrbutions that plan 9 provides. > so how t

[9fans] make slides in plan 9

2009-08-17 Thread xiangyu
Hi, everyone: How to make slides in plan 9 ? I always use ConTeXt in linux, but it doesn't contained in the TeX distrbutions that plan 9 provides. so how to make slides in plan 9 ? I'm looking forward for the answer..thanks first !!

[9fans] securing venti and fileservers was: (vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive)

2009-08-17 Thread Fernan Bolando
Hi all We have discussed the common setup used by 9fans. Can somebody post there method of securing venti stores. regards fernan -- http://www.fernski.com

Re: [9fans] vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive

2009-08-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
yes, having this score makes your files available to anyone with access to your venti. i'd suggest keeping it off the public network, assuming you have things on there you care about.

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-17 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:27 +0100, Robert Raschke wrote: > > > Last time I tried, the standard Lua compiled out of the box under the > > APE. > > That is good to know. Still, I'd rather see it run without APE. > > > Great little langua

Re: [9fans] copying a venti

2009-08-17 Thread Richard Miller
> Also, I have since discoverd the venti/copy command which > looks to be exactly what I should be using, but how do I generate > a score to copy the whole venti tree? There's no such thing as "the whole venti tree". A venti store may have lots of trees representing different fossil partitions, v

Re: [9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

2009-08-17 Thread matt
^M inserts a c/r see /lib/keyboard for the other text entries the second column is the key sequence, the first uses the modifier key (left Alt on my pc) so, for instance, æ is alt-a e alt-shift-o c is © alt-d g is † Is there some way to insert special characters into Acme text windows? Sp

Re: [9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

2009-08-17 Thread hugo rivera
I'd have another window holding the special characters, and just copy-paste them in the lines you want to (mouse chords are the key for doing this quickly). Obviously this makes sense only if you have to insert few special characters per file, and not to many files. But if you want to add them at t

Re: [9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

2009-08-17 Thread Richard Miller
> Is there some way to insert special characters into Acme text windows? > Specifically, I want to do some file editing and put CRLF line endings > into some files, or around specific lines. To get a CR, just type Ctrl-M (or Alt-X 000d). You can type it into text, or use it in an Edit or butto

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Mechiel Lukkien
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:50:42AM -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > > >Suggestions (model, company, etc.) welcome. > >Although, this thing can do photoscanning, copying, > >and faxing. I make great use of the former two, > >along with printing (of

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:56:18 -0400, Daniel Lyons wrote: If that's something you're thinking about doing, let me suggest you take a look at Clojure. The Java aspect aside, it is a good compromise in design between Scheme and Lisp and introduces lots of good ideas. This is something I woul

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:31:08 -0400, Noah Evans wrote: For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. Indeed, there are a number of fairly portable Scheme implementations that I c

Re: [9fans] 9fans.net/archive/ google index

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2009-08-17, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> interestingly, googling for this with >>        site:9fans.net/archive/2009/08 PAT >> returns nothing. > > I've seen these kind of problems a lot. I have looked around, I > searched for any misconfigured robot file, but not having found any

[9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Is there some way to insert special characters into Acme text windows? Specifically, I want to do some file editing and put CRLF line endings into some files, or around specific lines. Is there a way to do this regularly, just typing, I'd also like to know a bulk or Edit command to do it, a

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:34:03 -0400, Akshat Kumar wrote: Speaking of fonts in Acme, using the default, I spent extra amount of time tracking down a bug in my gs(1) source, which was the mix-up between -lijs and -Iijs. Apparently 'I' is shorter than 'l' by some portion of a pixel. I use Times

Re: [9fans] vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive

2009-08-17 Thread Fernan Bolando
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Fernan Bolando wrote: >> >> oops >> seeing that I posted this blindly anybody can now gain access to my files. > > > Is this true? I would have thought access to your Venti would be a requisite > too. > That comm

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread matt
I don't trust multifunction devices anyway. ^ "I hope that there are sour apples in every bushel." oops, wrong one "/Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by Perl./" I did a Markov of Uriel, that was amusing but

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Akshat Kumar wrote: Suggestions (model, company, etc.) welcome. Although, this thing can do photoscanning, copying, and faxing. I make great use of the former two, along with printing (of course). I have a Samsung ML-2850ND, which I think stands for Monochrome La

Re: [9fans] vac errors after updating to latest p9p archive

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Fernan Bolando wrote: oops seeing that I posted this blindly anybody can now gain access to my files. Is this true? I would have thought access to your Venti would be a requisite too. — Daniel Lyons