So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I
mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it
though?
Can you browse the internet?
Watch videos?
Thanks
Chris
On Dec 6, 3:54Â pm, ciprian.crac...@gmail.com (Ciprian Dorin, Craciun)
wrote:
> Â Â Now I'm trying to contribute back to the community, and I've sent
> an email to Tig Goodwin (at t...@star.le.ac.uk), which the mail server
> rejected (it seems that the email is not valid any more).
Have you tri
chutsu wrote:
So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I
mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it
though?
Can you browse the internet?
Watch videos?
Thanks
Chris
Your pre-conceptions are erroneous.
http://9fans.net/
read the man pages & pa
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM, weakish wrote:
> On Dec 6, 3:54Â pm, ciprian.crac...@gmail.com (Ciprian Dorin, Craciun)
> wrote:
>
>> Â Â Now I'm trying to contribute back to the community, and I've sent
>> an email to Tig Goodwin (at t...@star.le.ac.uk), which the mail server
>> rejected (it
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM, chutsu wrote:
> So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I
> mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it
> though?
> Can you browse the internet?
> Watch videos?
> Thanks
> Chris
>
>
I use it to manage my home network
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Robert Raschke wrote:
>
> I use it to manage my home network (/sys/lib/local is s much easier
> than any other network
>
Err, sorry, meant /lib/ndb/local (not sure how that turned itself into
something else).
Robby
2009/12/14 chutsu
> So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I
> mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it
> though?
> Can you browse the internet?
> Watch videos?
> Thanks
> Chris
>
>
Well, as far as I know, you can't browse web, watch videos, as
sorry to intervene... though...,
I'd like to point out, that, even a late 9fan since 2001, or so :) I
use Plan 9 on a daily basis, just switching 2 linux for
overcomplicated web pages like thode full of java, javascript,.. (type
here your most hated one...) and for scanning printed documents..
Any
I have received mine in the past hour or so.
Are there instructions anywhere on how to turn it into a CPU server?
Thanks.
++L
chutsu wrote:
> So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I
> mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it
> though?
> Can you browse the internet?
> Watch videos?
> Thanks
> Chris
>
>
I use plan9 at work as an email client and as a VNC client for my o
On Monday 14 December 2009 09:49:31 chutsu wrote:
> So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is
used for? I
I use Plan 9 as a web server, compute and compile server,
and a file server for source code. It's far easier to manage than
Unix or Windows, I've had BSD systems fail m
> Unfortunately after playing a little bit more with rc, and trying
> it's syntax and semantics to the limit, I've also found other nasty
> bugs (some of which I've fixed, other I was not able to do so)...
what nasty bugs? could you give some specifics.
> By the way, what is the expected
> that's not a bug. -e is only evaluated at the end of a full rc
> production. in yiour case, there is only one production and
> it $status is '' (true) at the end of it. since echo 3 sets status
> to true.
sorry. i ment /echo 2/ sets status to true.
- erik
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> Unfortunately after playing a little bit more with rc, and trying
>> it's syntax and semantics to the limit, I've also found other nasty
>> bugs (some of which I've fixed, other I was not able to do so)...
>
> what nasty bugs? could yo
Hello chutsu, you might want to have a look at [0].
>> Watch videos?
> Last thing I knew there wasn't a video player. A basic video
> player would be rather simple to write though.
Well, there is at least mplayer which is available through linuxemu. [1]
[0] http://www.lsub.org/who/nemo/9.i
> One for example (I think it is a bug, but maybe in the semantics
> you've described it's not):
> * again if we're using `-e`, and inside a function we write `fn
> dosomething { echo 1 ; false ; echo 2 ; return 0 ; }`
> * if we run `dosomething` it shall output only `1`, as the false
>
I initially used Plan 9 to learn more advanced security architecture
concepts, so for me it was initially a research OS. However, I learned that
it is surprisingly functional and versatile and I have used it for over 6
years now as a strong development environment, off and on as my desktop OS,
and
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009 09:49:31 chutsu wrote:
>> So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is
> used for? I
> I use Plan 9 as a web server, compute and compile server,
> and a file server for source code. It's far easier
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:14 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> One for example (I think it is a bug, but maybe in the semantics
>> you've described it's not):
>> * again if we're using `-e`, and inside a function we write `fn
>> dosomething { echo 1 ; false ; echo 2 ; return 0 ; }`
>> * if
> So then how can I say on the same line
> ifs=<> (I know about the actual newline
> between the quotes, but I think it's a very ugly syntax, especially
> when it involves indentation...)
nl='
'
ifs=$nl cmd
- erik
On Monday 14 December 2009 16:32:45 m g wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Patrick Kelly
wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 09:49:31 chutsu wrote:
> >> So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is
> >
> > used for? I
> >I use Plan 9 as a web server, compute and compil
So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for?
I use plan 9 from user space, mostly because it's a consistent
environment. Clean regular expressions, everything as file, all
tools need small documentation etc.
I also have an old plan of teaching professional computer
programm
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:06 AM, wrote:
> I have received mine in the past hour or so.
>
> Are there instructions anywhere on how to turn it into a CPU server?
it was pretty easy.
get the sys/src/9 tree
cd sheevaplug, make the kernel, put it in the usual plan 9 tftpboot
site. Set up dhcp. Boot
> I'll try to get better instructions tonight when I boot it again.
> These are a start.
Geoff actually published the details when he announced the port,
booting(8) has been updated to match. I had forgotten. Of course,
it's never this simple, but it sure isn't hard. Haven't tried it all
yet, I
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:44 AM, wrote:
> I wonder why neither U-boot nor PMON do PXE. PMON being senile has an
> excuse, U-boot doesn't. Or I need an excuse for not understanding :-)
Why bring such an awful standard anywhere you don't have to. I think they
made a good call :-)
ron
> > I wonder why neither U-boot nor PMON do PXE. PMON being senile has an
> > excuse, U-boot doesn't. Or I need an excuse for not understanding :-)
>
> Why bring such an awful standard anywhere you don't have to. I think they
> made a good call :-)
two standards are always better than one.
neve
* Mail client and server (SMTP, IMAP, running mailing lists).
* Net infrastructure (DNS, DHCP, FTP, file server).
* Long term file storage archive (36GB of iTunes mirror, repository
of ISO images for software distributions, documentation archive,
and some day soon a copy of my DVD collection).
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> what's the replacement for pxe?
Why not 9p?
ron
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM, erik quanstrom
> wrote:
>
> > what's the replacement for pxe?
>
> Why not 9p?
>
BOOTP + 9p?
>
> ron
>
>
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:37 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
> BOOTP + 9p?
Sure. Theres' lots of good candidates out there. It's just that PXE is
not one of them. PXE was designed for a world of binary formats and
tiny, incapable network bootstraps, and it was obsolete when it was
designed over a dec
playing games (via 9vx) colfld, or sokoban, or rushhour
editing (via acme-sac)
Axel.
I use plan9 only to impress my lecturers and class mates with
extremely clever questions. The girls also like it a lot.
In retrospect I notice that my increased motivation for coding in java
led to better grades in the exams (And it's just easier to understand
what java is trying to do if you know
> Sure. Theres' lots of good candidates out there. It's just that PXE is
> not one of them. PXE was designed for a world of binary formats and
> tiny, incapable network bootstraps, and it was obsolete when it was
> designed over a decade ago.
This reminds of a similar situation many years ago: it
> Sure. Theres' lots of good candidates out there. It's just that PXE is
> not one of them. PXE was designed for a world of binary formats and
> tiny, incapable network bootstraps, and it was obsolete when it was
> designed over a decade ago.
nonetheless, it's what vendors support. fighting
them
hiro wrote:
> I use plan9 only to impress my lecturers and class mates with
> extremely clever questions. The girls also like it a lot.
> In retrospect I notice that my increased motivation for coding in java
> led to better grades in the exams (And it's just easier to understand
> what java is try
Ours is finally in Spain, at customs.
Knowing our bureaucracy, it may still take a week or two to get my hands on it.
When it comes I'll take a look to usb there.
In someone can't wait before we try, I think it's a matter of getting
the controller
initialized properly (and the ports reset). Look
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> Ours is finally in Spain, at customs.
>
> Knowing our bureaucracy, it may still take a week or two to get my hands on
> it.
>
There is also a half written untried driver for the serial usb waiting
for it to arrive
to be finished.
I use acme(-sac) from plan9port as my primary interface to unixes
(Windows). Specifically, I enjoy its ability to move quickly about
the filesystem, edit files with a pipe through any shell command, and
retain a state of the files and commands (via guide files) I access
for a particular task. I'm
> I would like to use Mail instead of Outlook, if like nmh I can pull
> files from an Exchange server. I haven't really looked into this yet,
> but it could be a huge win.
should work okay with nupas if you have imap access to
your exchange server.
- erik
> But we'll try to help there as soon as we can.
I have absolutely no doubt that you will :-)
Unfortunately, as Geoff points out, USB is difficult. No chance that
you could write a commentary on USB that is as good as your efforts on
3rd Edition Plan 9?
++L
> There is also a half written untried driver for the serial usb waiting
> for it to arrive
> to be finished.
Which is the serial USB? The console on my plug works perfectly well,
I thought that was the purpose?
++L
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